Thursday, April 20, 2017

Orthodox Rod Dreher's "The Benedict Option" Promoted by Christianity Today












The Benedict Option

The culture wars and Dominionism is growing extreme. In the first video, Dreher, tells us Christians are in "exile" from our pagan secular culture, and the best option for Christians who want to live "lives of virtue" is to withdraw and form their own "communities". I find this idea of structured community, interesting given that spontaneous community in America especially among mainstream culture has failed. In the churches I have visited at least locally, I see no more spontaneous community. Everything is planned, formal and authority from the top down. Be careful of what sounds good but is not.

The church system is rapidly going Communitarian, as someone who has needed "charity" at times in the form of church food pantries and co-ops, the churches are intertwining with  governmental, corporate and other groups. At a recent food co-op, we had a visiting nurse and a local job's program person show up to the meeting with the distribution of food. Among the church helpers, is this false, that if we "become more responsible" or "work harder" our poverty will end. There is no discussion of the economic realities of American life today. Even the odd class blindness that most poor people unless disabled are already working seems to have escaped our middle class and above benefactors, as they seem to think mowing some lawns or fast food work is going to rescue people from poverty. They don't realize most in the room are already working for minimum wage.  They are selling everything that isn't nailed down already. Economic despair and the realities of our lives remains suppressed. There's little free speech.

I told my husband, "while we will go when we need to help" and desire to stay polite, we have to be sure to protect our privacy. These are people who will not understand an older man who can't stand for more then 10 minutes due to vein problems, and his work needs. The idea of the "Religious experts" getting together to form "Communities of virtue" scares me. Imagine the "rules", the "pious" would unleash among their set apart exiles.

The idea of some removed "Christian" community as a bulwark against the unbelieving hordes sounds like the dystopian novel "Handmaid's Tale", not only will they have the  subjugated women, they will have the Catholic inspired neo-feudalism to go along with it. 

Do you remember Fanatic for Jesus's other blog, "The Communitarian Trap"? The church system is rapidly going Communitarian. The idea of "Christian" communes or "Utopias" such as what the Shakers set up is nothing new, but you wonder about new marriages between government and churches and neo-feudal set-ups like what is proposed in Dreher's book.

 The Communitarian Trap defined Communitarianism thusly:

"Communitarianism is a global agenda toward world government. It uses a coalition of government, business, and church who shore up the social, moral, and political environment, while slowly robbing the freedom of the participants. A Communitarian adopts and advocates concepts such as a cooperative spirit of community, selfless commitment to community service, and the duty to work for “the common good.” It's tied from the U.N. directly to Agenda 21, the Third Way, Common Purpose, laws, community objectives, Total Quality Management, education, food delivery systems, and the collectivist thinking pattern of the global community. It uses the Hegelian Dialectic to create the synthesis needed to develop the New World Order - and ultimately the totalitarian utopia of the Elite's New Atlantis.



In the first video, Dreher advocates for Christians to separate from mainstream American culture, and tells us that only "culture" can save Christianity.  The many verses that warn against the "love of this world" from scripture contradict his philosophies that are very much of this world. This is advanced Domininionism. The message being that Christians must rule, and build their own kingdoms on this earth.  Around the 10:39 mark he quotes an early church historian Robert Lewis Wilkin.."that apologetics and intellection cannot save Christianity only culture can. By culture I do not mean high culture, Box B high mass Caravaggio as a colleague of St Matthew I mean the total harvest of thinking and feeling to use TS Eliot's phrase the pattern of inherited meanings and sensibilities encoded in rituals, laws, languages and practices and stories that can order and inspire the behavior thoughts and inspirations of a Christian people."  That just sounds like a nice way to advertise some thought control.

In the second video, Fox news interviews Dreher. He mentions the "catastrophic" departure of millennials from churches and Christianity. This actually happened with Generation X. To be frank, most of the young, have become far beyond disgusted with the "culture wars" especially in a culture where our economic disenfranchisement has become so acute. The reality is many of the young have rejected Christianity as a whole. The culture wars actually helped. I was planning an article to do soon, where I predict a "church" bubble bursting like the college bubble. People who can't afford rent, aren't going to be tithing. Millennials are not having children to fill the pews with.

 I can already see on the local level, the churches remaining strongly middle class and above, while poorer people while we may be in the church to get some food, they are not part of the church. I am someone who has left the church system but for the average poor person, they know they do not belong and stay out of the system by default. What happens when mostly more affluent Baby Boomers die off? That said Dreher will ensure more millennials racing for the door, especially with his authoritarian vision of religious life. Of course I always wonder if the race for the one world church door, will be implemented via severe economic collapse or war in America, but as things work now, the churches are not addressing the needs of the young.

Is Communitarianism or a Commune in Your Future? 


Videos three and four are interesting to me because it shows a Bruderhof young woman, advocating for the Benedict Option. Some may ask me, what's so interesting about that? I knew about the Bruderhof, because I am someone who has read quite extensively about intentional communities. They are a religious community where people live in common and their beliefs are very akin to the Hutterites in America. Intentional communities are defined by Wikipedia: "An intentional community is a planned residential community designed from the start to have a high degree of social cohesion and teamwork. The members of an intentional community typically hold a common social, political, religious, or spiritual vision and often follow an alternative lifestyle.". The Bruderhof is a religious one, they share housing, meals and a very close and social lifestyle.


While I know the new world order, is going to use arranged communities and intentional communities [aka today's modern communes], I have had a personal interest in that way of life. Modern American life for many and especially the poor has become very empty.  One ponders escape to a better place.  In my case, I wondered if any true independents and spontaneous associations existed outside the "communitarian" system. I even had fantasies about finding a place that would accept someone with severe chronic health problems but my husband's response to these alternative lifestyles was an unequivocable, "NO, I am not going to live with a thousand brothers and sisters".

I fantasized about finding a loving community to join where someone of my Christian views would be welcomed, but I never acted on this, I was too sick and disabled.  I also noticed someone who renounced Catholicism and the ecumenical vision for Christianity probably wouldn't be too welcomed either. Why am I sharing this? Well in lonely American culture, these new ways of life seem VERY ATTRACTIVE and were/are to me personally. I believe as society goes into more economic and other chaos, selling these ideas will not be hard. As the economy in America crumbles and life for many becomes more hard, people are going to be seeking "new solutions".

Sadly human reality usually steers towards wickedness, this is NOT new stuff that Dreher is selling, American Utopianism especially of the "Christian flavor" took off in the 19th century, with the Shakers leading the charge. Back then these communities also were run like "communes" with new social rules and ways of life. Sadly a majority went into major corruption with false leaders, religious and spiritual abuse, and extreme doctrines. The Shakers died out renouncing all sex and marriage. There was a lot of abuse with wolves in sheep's clothing claiming power and control over people and many grew into out and out cults.

I even looked myself into co-housing, because life in America especially for a childless older couple without a family can feel very isolating but for some reason, they all seem to be relegated to the wealthy and for those of a certain ideological bent. I looked at "Christian" communities and had a fascination with them, on an intellectual level, so yes I knew about the Bruderhof. It does not surprise me that one of their own, is supporting Dreher's book or that Dreher visited one Bruderhof community in America called Fox Hill. [see video #3] Perhaps there is a planned marriage of "Christian" intentional communities with Dreher's vision of set apart Christian villages and communities. Here one sees the ecumenical movement in action as Orthodox meets Ana-baptist.

The Benedict Option has become a best-selling book and made the cover of Christianity Today. Definitely these view-points are being pushed by some powerful interests. The rooms full of wealthy academics and others are on display in the videos.  The question now is to ask Why?  What are they planning?

I asked in 2013, "Is Communitarianism or a Commune in your future?" In 2013, the blogger on The Communitarian Trap, warned about the efforts to turn Christians into an army of workers for the new United Nations sustainability and social justice efforts:

The Hands and Feet of Christ and the Identifying Marks of a Communitarian Social Justice Agenda.

This is definitely one direction the one world religion is building, with different denominations joining together. Rick Warren got this ball rolling. Evangelicals now take no issue with a vision of Christian life based on a Catholic religious order.

18 comments:

Debra said...

There are only two camps- Tares or Wheat. Anything else people drum up is another gospel.

Matthew 13:24-30 King James Version (KJV)

24 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:

25 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.

26 But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.

27 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?

28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?

29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.

30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

Anonymous said...

Good article BB. I wish an apostolic type commune could exist today. The antichrist papacy wiped out people like the Waldenses in the 15th century, if it could happen then, could you imagine how much easier it would be for it to do it today?....James

Debra said...

If we are to seclude ourselves in a Christian commune how are we suppose to fulfill the great commission? How are we suppose to spread the Gospel and use gifts of evangelism? I didn't see Paul or any of the disciples doing this? Sometimes Paul was abandoned and was with no one. Paul listened to God's Holy Spirit when he was to come and go. Christianity is not churchianity. Sounds like this new man made theology opposes the true Gospel of Christ as it is meant to stifle the furthering of the Gospel. It is a very deceitful way of attempting to shut out God's Holy Spirit from working among the unsaved unto salvation. Believers did gather together to pray, break bread, sing songs of worship to the Lord, but this was inspired by God's Holy Spirit and was not a communal living situation. Jesus even said Foxes have holes but He didn't have a place to rest His head. When the believers were being persecuted they ended up in caves and holes. It wasn't a voluntary thing but a need to survive. So Christians are being brainwashed to join a monastery of sorts or FEMA Christian camps so they can be controlled and used for further diabolical purposes. They figure it's a bit tough to control God's Holy Spirit so to make it easy just gather them into groups and market them as Christian communes. The sheep will never get it.
Matthew 28:19-2 0 KJV)
19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

Heather Noelle said...

Thanks Debra. You are right, and it's a good reminder. I often long for an isolated off-grid mountain home, far from society. The crazier it gets, the more I want that. But you're right, hard to be a light and a witness to others when you're hiding out.

I do think that if/when things really go south, people will form groups just for survival. I have a few like minded friends, that is our plan, we all have a different set of skills and abilities and will help each other out at that point. But not live totally isolated, unto ourselves. As attractive as that sounds...

Heather

Debra said...

This is nothing more than the emergent false teaching seeping into the life of Christians. Benedict was a monk and started 12 monasteries.
Wikipedia: is a Christian saint, who is venerated in the Eastern Orthodox Churches, the Catholic Church, the Oriental Orthodox Churches, the Anglican Communion and Old Catholic Churches.[1] He is a patron saint of Europe Benedict founded twelve communities for monks at Subiaco, Lazio in Italy (about 40 miles (64 km) to the east of Rome), before moving to Monte Cassino in the mountains of southern Italy.On his way from Enfide, Benedict met a monk, Romanus of Subiaco, whose monastery was on the mountain above the cliff overhanging the cave. Romanus had discussed with Benedict the purpose which had brought him to Subiaco, and had given him the monk's habit. By his advice Benedict became a hermit and for three years, unknown to men, lived in this cave above the lake. One day, the Devil brought before his imagination a beautiful woman he had formerly known, inflaming his heart with strong desire for her. Immediately, Benedict stripped off his clothes and rolled into a thorn-bush until his body was lacerated. Thus, through the wounds of the body, he cured the wounds of his soul.

Anonymous said...

I'd love to live off the grid in a true Christian commune. Treks into neighboring towns and countries is how the gospel was preached from these communes. There are stories of one such commune who use to set up tables in neighboring towns to sell their produce and goods, and they preached the gospel to the people they came into contact with. Of coarse it didn't last long with the Roman church and their inquisitions, but it was done none the less. I doubt anything like that would be possible today. Being a part of such a commune would give you the label of a "cult" in people's eyes, so your message wouldn't be well received. Radio, television, and the Internet has been successful in giving the majority a group type mentality and anyone outside this group is given certain labels and frowned upon . We are hated by the world for his names sake. It keeps getting worse, and these "information" outlets are the main contributor. I certainly don't believe in hiding from the world by breaking away from it. We are to be in the world, not of the world......James

Debra said...

Some of the worst behaviors and attitudes have come from Christian groups. We think we can escape persecution and mean intentions but even in Christian gatherings we have some ornery and fleshly believers who are all about themselves. I wish I could say they would know us by our love for one another but this is not always the case. In some instances there is so much persecution coming from believers because we don't fit into their church mold. If we aren't attending "their" church we become like secondary citizens in their minds. We belong under the table eating their scraps if they choose to throw us some. So I have no doubt in my mind this communal living would include NPD's trying to rule the roost to divide and conquer. Leaders will self appoint rather than God's Spirit and you would begin to see divisions among the commune. You would hope to see much fruit in these camps but much fruit can be rotten as well. Things that are rotten stink, just like the old flesh man who resurrects itself from the dead even though Jesus crucified it on the cross.

Bible Believer said...

I agree about tares and wheat.

I agree if people are in communes, and set aside groups it would make wiping them out easier James by evil people.

Debra the seclusion seems odd. One thing I have thought about the IFB and other groups have become secluded, the Duggars, Quiverfuls etc, all live in a set apart subculture. Some of this has already grown in Christianity though they are not in formalized communes or intentional communities. I never fit into the IFB subculture, didn't have the money or the "proper" family. Who is there to preach to or witness too if everyone is a Christian? Paul and the disciples didn't hide out, you are so correct. Already Christians in America are kind of in their "own world", I've talked about the cultures I felt apart from economically and otherwise. I thought of FEMA Christian camps too when watching these Benedict Option videos. It's a way to make mainstream society more wretched, separate all the Christians out. Whose going to be saved when there's no Christians about in regular society?

Hey I liked the idea, I thought of secular communes too, when I was interested though oddly there, I got the feeling no bible Christians would be allowed...and disabled people too. once I found this co-housing place in a big city in my state where a rented room in the giant mansion would be 400 a month. it was not handicapped accessible, so a moot point for me but I saw one guy's picture, and thought immediately Satanist, he was so spiritually dark. Wicked people in these communes could really do a LOT of damage. Controlling pastors may demand tithes, but imagine wicked men there living with you.

I thought of this way of life for us, I see it's attraction. I'm a person with no family, so social disconnection could easily sell this to people. One thing I thought off too is whose going to be the leaders? Even the Hutterites and others are under extreme authoritarian bishops. One thing I have noticed in the Utopian societies even of 19th century to know, the men in charge outlaw sex, probably to keep the competition down, even the FLDS made a mockery of marriage, with Jeffers ordering who could stay married or not and marrying off too young girls and being sexual abusers. I didn't want a cult when I was interested so secular/co-op driven places seemed the most possible but those really like cohousing places are for the very wealthy or at least middle class and above. Community in America has become a very limited commodity.

There's a drive now even in fundamentalist circles to "go hide out" not just the uber Catholics and ecumenicals following Rod Derher. I saw elements of that in my old rural town, go off the grid, etc, the prepper's movement majorly pushed for a lot of this separation. This helped to develop the outside Christian subcultures. I lived kind of isolated in my old rural town, I was "in town" but the place was small and remote, so much so when I moved to a more medium sized place, I had culture shock. It was considered a very Christian town.

Bible Believer said...

I think people could form groups for survival too. I'm too sick and would be a burden, poor health and age are barriers from entering the "cohousing" and "intentional community world" I saw a few in other countries gathering the elderly together but they were RARE. I hope your friends would help Heather. I have a few friends who have helped with rides etc in town but don't see a survival community happening, they have their own families.

Benedict yes taught many false tenents of Catholicism and monastery living. Even Protestants historically like Lutherans and others would have rejected these things 50 years ago.
This is nothing more than the emergent false teaching seeping into the life of Christians. Notice the false theology and hatred of women [suppressing natural desires and self-harm to over come those things and the sinful "lust" that was existent]


I don't think any natural Christian communes could happen. Maybe I am wrong, when researching the intentional community world most communes that took the Christian name, were like the Burderhof, very ecumenical, and one saw elements of the emergent movement and new monasticism. Some borrow off the Amish, some are Catholic worker groups. There's a few with alternative theologies [would be cults?]

Here is a sample one...
http://www.ic.org/directory/brotherhood-of-christ-community/
http://www.ic.org/directory/christian-communities/

Yes most people would see these groups as cult and the message of the gospel would not get out. Group type mentalities are in our society but then it can happen in these groups where the authority is more overwhelming in day to day life. I found very few bible based groups, I don't even think I found one, that was near my religious beliefs. [Have I become that obscure? LOL] Even then one would have to be mindful of cults.

My worries is about what happens to marriage in these groups. My husband may accept a senior cohousing place, [we are economically not able to do such a thing since most require home ownership, where we have our OWN locked apartment and independent finances] but one thing I have noticed in all communes and groups, things get weird with men and marriage. The Catholics developed their "do not marry" groups of celibates in set aside living [monastery living] but what is going to happen to "families"? The very structure of marriage and family life would be changed. Many people don't have families now so it is complex stuff. One ponders husbands being told to knuckle under others telling their wives what to do. I am no patriarchialist, but these things confuse a lot of issues.

I don't like the idea of hiding away from the world. In my case, I "need" the world's medicine to stay alive. I don't think everything is evil in the world and untouchable. Christians are getting this fearful seige mentality. Fear is running the whole Dominionist show. I still talk to people even though I may not agree with their beliefs. Am I weird?

I noticed Rod Dreher, used the passage of homosexual marriage to get everyone in an uproar. Should we be afraid of homosexuals? Am I weird to say I am not afraid of them. Or the pagans? I used to be a pagan, so why would I be shivering in my boots and hightailing it to a log cabin out in the woods?

Bible Believer said...

I agree, some of the worse behaviors have come from Christians. I had spiritual abuse from a woman who called herself a Christian who tried to "get inside" What if I lived with someone like that? The damage would be worse. By the way in this case, she talked openly of having a group of like minded Christians living in the boonies with her. She told me she had people come live with her. There's a lot of control freaks who use religion, and deliverance and FEAR of the WORLD, to make for cults and MASSIVE spiritual abuse. If Warren Jeffs [sorry misspelled his name above] can go off the Mormon rails why not Rod Dreher's favorite Orthodox priest. No IFBs would team up with Dreher, but how many of them would go for full separation from the world, there is already a defacto culture that has been set up. I had one foot in that culture for some years and a foot in the regular world and the two did not meet.

I've had more persecution from Christians. I know some nice church Christians, they know I don't go to church but I have met some mean ones too. The Christian commune isn't going to protect people, even as much as Dreher likes to advertise that.

Yes do these intentional communities screen out NPDs and sociopaths? Obviously the churches aren't. The leaders will self appoint. Sadly being realistic, in most groups, the NPDs are the ones seeking power and control.

American Christianity is getting twisted. I've had some weird thoughts about Dominionism and the whole mess, lately, and this idea of being so special too also speaks of self righteousness. Too good for the world and what good are you. Certainly not the salt of the world.

Debra said...

1 Thessalonians 5:3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
So when believers are seeking out that peace and safety along with the world, we may find our expectations have been on the wrong thing. Rather our real preparation should be the condition of our hearts, if we have an eternal perspective or temporal. Abiding in the Lord is what helps us operate spiritually with the mind of Christ, otherwise we can adapt and assimilate in thought and deed right with the world.

Anonymous said...

Here's some recent news about Hank Hannegraaf with comments by Rod Dreher:


http://www.christianpost.com/news/bible-answer-man-hank-hannegraaf-leaves-evangelicalism-joins-greek-orthodox-church-180035/

Anonymous said...

Sallysays

I have toyed with the idea of joining a christian community due to life becoming more stressful and you are fighting harder to keep the faith. I still have battles to overcome and it is frustrating to me when I see other Christians that seem to be perfect.

I think a christian commune is a great idea. One that is biblically based where everyone with some time on their hands take care of the infirm.

However by doing this, we will not be able to be the light. We need some light in this world as it is so dark and another thing, was hooked up under church system for a while and whilst this church started of good, everything is now about ensuring your loyalty to that church. This includes fundraising, soul winning, paying tithes AND offerings and always doing what they want. If they want to buy another church building, you should hand out more money along with the money for tithes, offerings, campaigns of faith where you give everything to the church as a way to show God that you are serious about obtaining that blessing.

Don't get me wrong, nothing bad about soul winning, giving money and so forth. However it becomes wrong when you are made to feel as if you are a wicked person if you are not doing enough of these things. Nobody takes into consideration that you are either sick, extremely tied up with work and family, got a some social anxiety disorder or trying to figure some stuff out.

There' s also the issue with buying buildings that are very large for a very sdsdmall congregants and acting as if coupledom is something all singles should aspire to. You worship and idolise this. What if the person is sickly, crippled? and has carers responsibilities? On the other hand you have the bunch who want to say that being single makes you more holy. It is just crazy.


No. That's the danger of communities, they become culty and for us humans, we are so obsessed with control, control and erm more control.

And everyone knows and has to get involved in your business. I am a very private person and it is bad enough having to put my CV (resume for you guys)out there knowing that people can know my personal information.

Anonymous said...

Of course false religion and its stupidity is promoted by "Christianity Today", which was founded by false teacher and catholic ecumenicalist Billy Graham.

Anonymous said...

BB. I agree, and am not scared of queers or satanists etc. I do know that queers are seared and reprobate, so there's no need to preach them the gospel, they've already rejected God which is what led them to the state they're in. As far as pagans and satanists go, there could possibly be people that are doing such things out of ignorance, so they need the gospel. Its good to see that you're posting more comments. I always enjoy reading everyone's posts. God bless....James

Bible Believer said...

Anyone who expects total peace and safety in this world is very mislead, I agree about depending on God.

Hmm so another big name evangelical leads to Rome or well it's Orthodox daughter.

Another pied piper? How could anyone read the bible and get the Orthodox with their false sacraments as the "answer"? You know I can understand someone born into a religion who doesn't know better. I myself know personally on how one is indoctrinated into Catholicism. I still talk to a few Catholics, one is this very nice lady, she tells me she likes reading the bible but she interprets it still through their lens. I noticed too he is doing the creed quoting...

http://www.equip.org/article/left-christian-faith/

Sallysays be careful of those "perfect" Christians, one burned me bad when I wrote about my spiritual abuser. The "perfect" ones will get you. I know the idea sounds nice. Some of us fear growing old without families too. My family was dumping me as an "impoverished burden" long before I walked [kept around enough just for control] If something was to happen to my husband, I actually hope God takes me home quick. I am so afraid for him growing old alone too it is not funny.

Yes everything is about loyalty to the church. I was talking to some nice church ladies I know and they talked about this big fundraising their church was doing. I feel relief not to be under that pressure in a church knowing I would never have any real money to give one anyhow. This is one reason the poor are leaving churches. Their church at least helps some poor, but I doubt there's many of my socioeconomic level or below in their pews. Yeah the pressures can be hard. I remember the clucking of tongues when I would "disappear" from being housebound or ill.

Bible Believer said...


Everything in my region of the country in the churches is all about families, anyone without children or who is single is left out. I've seen it in multiple places. I think I live in a too much family based area. It can get lonely. Even when you try to make friends they have huge family networks. That is who they spend time with. I wonder in these communes Dreher is proposing if the families would run the show like a fiefdom and some single poor old person would just be one of the peasants. Humans are focused on control and I think it's getting worse. No one backs down on the rules...etc

Yes Christianity Today is basically COME HOME TO ROME TODAY, I have noticed they got the big Orthodox bent going lately....

James I am not sure all homosexuals are seared, I do believe many are, when studying personality disorders, that has been interesting when it comes to homosexuality...I guess I hope a few young ones can be saved. Some do "get out of the life" perhaps those are the non-seared ones. The world of homosexuality is pretty wretched.

With the family members where three members of the family have "gone gay" I am beyond disturbed. The transgendered girl is taking hormones now I think to be a man. Her homosexual brother and father and liberal grandmother and mother are all for this. They have twisted her mind and taught her to hate her own femininity. By the way in my sick wicked family this was attempted on me. They failed and were angry when I got engaged to a man [and never had any dealings with women, I was attracted to men only] I was dressed as very masculinly when young and told to eschew female things. In fact at one point when I wanted to be an art teacher, both parents screamed at me that is a woman's job. Some of the homosexuals are young people being pushed into it or having had suffered severe abuse.

I pray for that girl, and the utter destruction she is being led down. I don't get into this much but I believe my family is "connected". They definitely have major Catholic church ties and others. I saw on Facebook this girls mother [the gay cousin's ex wife] tattooed two giant "dead" birds with empty eye sockets and skeletons on her arms. She has a blue bird with a forked tail tattooed on the clavicle area. I saw it through a cousins page I am still in contact with. The mother looks so evil I am in shock. I only met her twice in my life, and she hated me upon first sight. With her father and brother who reject and hate women and femininity, she definitely has been taught to hate herself. The mother is extremely masculine. My contact with cousins is extremely minimal and could ebb to a close. I know once one finds out my real opinion about his niece, he would be outraged. I was censored in the family and told I could not talk about God or "homosexuality" this was before this family came out of the closet which all three of them have done on Facebook. I hate so much what they have done to that girl, I got steam coming out of my ears, but I don't have contact or a relationship enough with her to have been able to steer her away from any of it.

I am not afraid of gays or Satanists etc. Some of the Satanists are deceived, theosophy is basically Satanism. I came out of the UU and Theosphical/New Age/pagan teachings.

Anonymous said...

I believe when people begin to change their identity it is a mockery of God. God created them to be male or female but some are choosing to morph into something else. Science can play a part in this as Doctor's agree to change a person's gender or give them hormone replacement. It is stating... see I don't have to stay the way God made me. When a person lives in an environment without boundaries or absolutes your world becomes whatever you want it to be. If you are pushed into liberal ideologies, with the acceptance of anything goes then it is not surprising the outcome of the transgendered girl.