Wednesday, March 29, 2017

Goodbye To Fundamentalism!

I still am a Christian. I still believe in God's Word. I am sure many would consider many of my beliefs "classically fundamentalist" when it comes to belief in God's Word, I see fundamentalism as just another "ism" to kick to the curb.

That said I have to be honest on this blog and have to admit, that I no longer consider myself a fundamentalist, and my ongoing division with the religious right and the rest has grown stronger. How much of "fundamentalism" in America has absolutely nothing to do with God or Christianity and has become about nothing but "control", "fear" and "punishment".

It's sometimes scary because I know I am in a place that "defies" the labels. It can make communication more tougher. People want to figure out where a person is coming from and the short-hand labels serve as an easy marker. Many of us who have left the church system sometimes do feel like we are floating out in space. People ask us, "What are you?" and besides saying "Christian" what do you tell them?

Dealing with that spiritual abuser and false "deliverance" person has led me to some more self examination and theological musings. It has changed me not only to have left the last IFB in the last 18 months, but also that whole process and examining spiritual abuse issues. I hope I never have been spiritually abusive to anyone judging them on high, I definitely have examined some of my own tactics.  I don't want to be like that person who messed with me and preached legalism and religiosity beyond measure. She probably was a closet Satanist but there's many who believe themselves to be Christians causing a lot of damage to people. They take self righteousness to new heights and the Bible warns about those people with the "appearance of godliness". There's a lot of people being hurt by false religion and legalists and I never want to be one of those doing the damage to someone else.

Recently I have been in some strong spiritual battles, I have even feared my own falling away they have been so bad. Some unanswered prayers have piled up and my own relationship with God has entered a very troubled area. Imagine the metaphor of a marriage when it comes to God. There have been arguments, railings and slammed doors and then apologies and repentance, but then more arguments. It has been a mess. Some of the arguments with God even had to do with "how my life has turned out" and feelings of deep grief. I have to apply SOME OF THINGS I MYSELF warned about on this blog years ago, where false fundamentalists teach things like "a good life here" means you are "blessed by God".  I suppose real communication is better then trying to be fake in front of God. Spiritual tests and battles will come to people. 

I have battled dealing with feeling that God does not love me which I posted on already and trying to stand on scripture to fight Satan's lies. I have overcome some of these problems but still remaining in some struggle. It is related to personal and other issues. False fundamentalism can damage someone's relationship with God. It did me. That spiritual abuser planted some terrible seeds, and almost could have succeeded in destroying my faith. Spiritual abuse has repercussions and I have faced them. Those who speak only judgment and no kindness and love can drive a wedge between someone and God. Fundamentalism in America has become nothing but. The love is gone. Love is an issue I am thinking on a LOT lately and Love between me, God and others.  Choosing between cold people who claim they stand on sound doctrine and have no love, and the mushy world of liberal "love" where anything goes is not much of a choice is it?

I think about people who walked from God deeming God "their enemy" because He did not bless them or their lives became full of more problems. Its a lot of people. "Perfect" Fundamentalist Frank and Francine with their Quiverful family and white-picket fence lives and Moral Majority culture wars, have sent many people fleeing what they think is Christianity. Some people just want to have some love, and comfort and feel like God cares about them. The regular world sees "Christian" fundamentalists as evil and while some are in that category of being offended by true servants of the Lord, giving them the gospel , many see the power-hungry, mean and others using religion to bash people in the face, make money and get power.

I know the religious right world is a world I have warned of for years on this blog but it is a world I know I will never fit in. In many ways I never fit in the "fundamentalist" world either though I tried for years to find a place in the IFB churches with my first experience being more positive, and the second more negative and me changing along the way.

The fundamentalist world is JUST another system to be rejected. I have warned of the excesses of fundamentalism. I have warned of many of them for years. Many will tell you that if you reject the religious right, the anti-intellectualism, and the authoritarianism, this means you must add in the rejection of God's Word and beliefs based upon it. Some will shout that your rejection of these things means you no longer hold to scripture and Christian beliefs. They are wrong. Stand on what you know.

This is where the forced squashing into either one of the sides of the "right" and "left" religious and political matrix can become the worse. I meet fellow Christians like me sometimes who have left the "system" so to speak and the automatic reaction is that you "have turned liberal" and ready to join the world of the Presbyterian USA denomination or United Church of Christ, or the mainliner or liturgical world, and that you will want to read Sojourners. That is simply not true. This can be like walking through a thicket. Here is where you will be told, you have "formed your own religion" and if you are the "only person" who believes this way, then you have "formed your own cult". Trust me I have undergone some major self questioning ABOUT ALL OF THIS.

For those out of the religious system, maybe you have dealt with this stuff too. One person said to me, "If your beliefs are so strange, that you don't fit anywhere and cannot find one tolerable church you are in a very extreme place." This means most every other Christian holds very wrong beliefs except for YOU and this probably means you need to "rethink" your ideas and conform somewhat."

Talk about laying on the pressure. One thing they don't realize that inside, conforming would have been the easiest path. Too many have conformed from the first place and didn't say NO to the excesses, otherwise why did the churches run off the rails so much? Is the only alternative to crazed and mean "Christian" Taliban Dominionists running into the arms of those who reject scripture, and teach that all religions lead to the same place?

Yes conforming would have been the EASIEST path. I wouldn't feel so alone in this. I spent a lot of time trying to find a place where I would "fit" and "belong" and never did.  It hurt a lot. I had some dreams about THIS LIFE, that died. Because of my past history, the desire for a church "family" was very strong, but I've been enough places to know I could not just sit somewhere and digest what I was told without thinking about it and examining it. If I had found a place where open communication was allowed and iron sharpening iron, that would have made all the difference, even with minor disagreements I could have handled it, instead of just being spoon-fed from on high. I suppose those places are very rare now. I believe I myself am responsible for what I know and it's true of every person.

I'm done with fundamentalism. Right now it's not just the excesses, but the whole ball of wax.

One wants to seek after God's love, and lover for others too. I don't mean in the mushy enabling of evil way either but where we feel love and able to give love to others. The power and control matrix of what passes for "Christanity" today has reached absurd levels.

I am not sure where I am going with all this, I am in my own path of exploration. Where am I going? My mind is changing on some things but definitely not the truth of God's Word and the gospel of Jesus Christ.


Anonymous said...

I have no problem with the word "fundamentalist". To me it means you believe the whole oracle of God, and hold his Word above everything. A lot of the scriptures, maybe 60% plus can be considered "negative" by most. I love it all, the scriptures are what the world will be judged by, and the negative scriptures are there as an example, and to remind us what we as believers are up against. It's a hard life and a tough world. I too have grief. I believe a lot of believers have grief, I know Jesus Christ had grief. We are his servants, and the servant is in no way greater than their master. If Christ had griefs, so will we. It comes with knowing how this world works, and the wickedness that saturates all levels of society. Please keep your head up. We all as believers will have our redemption.....God bless...James

Ecclesiastes 1:18 For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow

Debra said...

So when we have the word of God as our base and foundation, applying it to our lives in Spirit in Truth we should have no confusion on how our Christianity is carried out. If we are not walking with the Lord, operating in our flesh then Christianity becomes legalistic, liberal progressiveness or emergent hodgepodge. I would throw in the NPD operatives as well. We have to know the word of God, be yielding to God's Holy Spirit, discerning of all things, testing the spirits to have right judgement. Sometimes it takes awhile in our spiritual journey to have those strong convictions and roots that go down deep. Some believers are not actively testing all things. We will come across true believers who worship in Spirit and Truth and others who walk in the flesh after their own heart and not the Lord's. Many want to take control of their ship like a helmsman who could care less about the direction God intends for them. It's more about forming their own religious system to gain followers as themselves. If you do not agree to hop on board because the "captain" has decided to be in control regardless of God's guidance and direction, then you will be considered AWOL, deserting the flock. They get angry when you don't want to follow men. It's amazing how they can draw you in with their friendliness. But when they find out you oppose their heretical teachings and expose who they really are, you become an apostate. This is why we are not to engage in man made systems. 501 3C churches are under government control no different than the Chinese church in China.

Anonymous said...

I know it is out of topic but does anyone know what happened to the Ephesians 5:11 blog that Mr. Saunders used to have? Can't find a trace of it or any of the other sites he was working on.... -Terry-

R Pierson said...

Your comments about feeling alone and unwilling to compromise are just what my husband and I have been going through for the past few years. We would love to have a church family again, to have that support that comes from like minds of faith. But, we have considered finding a church just for the "social" aspect of it, but I believe that God brought us out of the organized church system, so I don't see how we can put ourselves back into it, especially when we, like you, can not find a church that shares the same truths that the Holy Spirit has awoken to. I keep going back to Elijah and the 7000 who had not bended a knee to Molech. I know there are other true believers ( and I use that term with caution, because I do not know how much grace God gives to those who have not seen the truth) out there, but so far there don't seem to be any close to us. We will keep praying and perhaps God will lead us to a Fellowship, or perhaps he is preparing us for a day to come. Blessings to you!

Debra said...

I feel more protected out of the church system. If we sit in an auditorium with fog machines, bright colored strobe lights without the Spirit's presence it makes me want to run. God's temple as He said is to be a house of prayer. All I see is money making schemes, fleecing the sheep, distorting God's word, entertainment for the light hearted, comedy shows thrown in the mix and programs making one sign on the dotted line to tithe your 10%. How can you slip inside and not be noticed, attend under the radar? Marketing techniques are implemented as they have been paid for by the organization. How do you get the sheep in and keep them in your sheep pen is their first line of execution. Second... feed sheep what they like, never what they need. Teach them to hear only voices that will lead them astray from the word of God. Then your formula is almost complete. Make them never want to leave by offering special events, dinners, bands, retreats, special speakers (pay at the door), comedy night, dancing, movie night and anything else that will appease your customer. Once you get them hooked, engaged, involved if they decide to leave all will turn against them and consider them lost souls, rebellious, trouble makers. Your Country club membership is withdrawn and you no longer are an elite member gaining approval and possibly entrance. Jesus never intended this to be His church. His bride would not adorn themselves in this way.

KJVmom said...

BB, dear sister in the Lord, I'm so sorry to hear of your struggles; I will continue to lift you up in prayer. The Bible in Daniel 7:25 speaks of the one that "shall wear out the saints of the most High"; pardon if I'm taking it out of context, but considering what you, other commentators, and myself often go through brings that verse to mind. Satan does want us to be weary, and sometimes being weary comes from being wary as well. Distractions are a problem, too, and can wear one down. And like you, BB, I wish I had someone in my house with the same faith. I am blessed with a good church family, but the nearest member lives 16 miles away. Loneliness, too, but we have Jesus and we have brothers and sisters in the faith. Let's pray for one another, and dear ones, I pray for a restful night for all. Keep the faith!

Anonymous said...

To Bible Believer and anyone that can't find a church. Why don't you start a home church? Make flyers and put them in libraries, grocery stores and anywhere there's a posting board. Advertise in your local paper. Set up a website before you do that.

SJLC said...

I suppose that person who assumed the truth is in numbers would tell you it was ridiculous to be a Christian at all, if you were both citizens of an Islamic country.

God's word explicitly teaches that his true followers will end up as a "remnant", not as the religious majority. There have been plenty of counterfeit "remnants" through the ages, which we tend to call "cults", but the real thing is different:

there are no powerful human leaders using claims of greater truth to go on power trips and boss everyone around

Luke 22:25-26 And he said unto them, The kings of the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and they that exercise authority upon them are called benefactors. But ye shall not be so: but he that is greatest among you, let him be as the younger; and he that is chief, as he that doth serve.

That command from the Lord is still in effect; He has not in the meantime decided to choose out any new Moses-like leaders to tell His people what to wear, who to vote for, and who to boycott.

When God calls out a remnant he uses His Word and His Spirit to do so. Elijah was a great Man of God in his day, but he didn't even know about those other 7000 until God mentioned them!

While you ought not to be worried about being in a small minority who defies labels and mainstream religious leaders, that doesn't mean you should resign yourself to being alone. It is important in this day to fellowship with others in the resmnant, for the purposes that God told us -- not for building funds and corporate meetings! Notice that eventually some of the faithful ended up gathering together with Elijah as "sons of the prophets", including Elisha, and today we are commanded to seek out other believers as well:

Hebrews 10:23-25 Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised;) and let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works: not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.

Please BB, consider that some of your struggles may be prodding you to put in some effort to make real-life contact with others from the remnant. Is not "the day approaching"? Do we not need to be provoked unto love, per this very article? I know you have been wounded many times, so there is fear in exposing yourself again, but God *knows* that, and he has supplied you with discernment, has he not? Wouldn't you have avoided most of those wounds if you had immediately acted upon the discernment of the Holy Spirit?

So, why don't you pray about the believers whom God has called to this very blog, to see if you should make further contact with any of them. I would be very surprised if the Holy Spirit does not testify on behalf of James for instance. And also very surprised if James did not consider it a privilege to serve as your brother in encouraging and exhorting one another over phone calls, which would be much more powerful for that purpose than a public blog.

Anonymous said...

Dear sister, your description is exactly what my hsb and me are experiencing even since being saved in 2005. So we are living Matthew 18,20 ever since. No sound local church around in the Land of Reformation (Germany) after 500 yrs. Elijah and the 7,000 were in our thoughts from the beginning. I am quite 'amused' (no offense) to see and read of more and more testimonies like ours after 12 years now. Our LORD Jesus told us so, didn't He? Luke 18,8 b) This is fulfilled prophecy and nothing really to worry about. The worse it gets, the closer the LORDs return, rejoice family!! Hold on to what you have... Revelation 3,11! Maranatha! ;-)) Your sister in Christ Corinna

Bible Believer said...

James I understand your take on the word "fundamentalist". I know there is the real "fundamentals" which is belief in scripture and the religious right disgusting stage show and the two differ. I agree about scriptures. Thank you for that verse, wow....on that latter half....:/ hmmm that gives me a lot to think about.

Ecclesiastes 1:18 For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow

Yes Debra there's different paths into the ditch, emergent/liberal mush, legalistic religious right stuff, and other paths--those who deny Jesus as God etc. The NPD operatives work strongly. I have had some weird thoughts about things, they seem to be pushing some of the worse people out there, I even wondered about this sociopathic guy on My 600lb life being an MK ultra. He had the usual pictures of Marilyn Monroe and other things around. LOL I know I get some strange thoughts about things but he is NPD to the hilt. I wonder if they have done "research" on people to make some ultra-fat too. They certainly are not restrained in fattening up the population as a whole.

Sorry to go off topic there, but the NPD operatives from celebrities on down to one's personal life are growing like gangbusters in number.

Yes many people stick to religious paths for their own status, social connections and more. The path I have been on has had costs, and well anyone else who reads this blog and knows the real deal about the church system, I'm not going to sugar coat some of the social and other prices you may pay. We have to follow after what God desires, which definitely can be different for each person but the love of truth should come first.

Yes in the churches they can be very friendly, I felt AFRAID in that one church bible study based on the most mild of religious statements. It can be scary business and this was in a peaceful non-violent area but spiritually you can feel the desire they have for your destruction.

With talking on the phone, I'll be blunt, I am way too deaf. I am severely hearing impaired and it is worsening. I may seek after a Caption Phone but have to talk to my audiologist. Anyone can email me here and I will respond back though I know I get behind on emails and responses. Because of the spiritual abuser, I am very wary of contacting people via the blog. I have paid major prices for this blog, the spiritual abuser was NOT the ONLY ONE who messed with me. There were several others, some I got away from far quicker listening to discernment. I have suspected out and out "gang-stalking" so I have to be more cautious then your average person.

Bible Believer said...

I agree about there being a remnant. I do wonder why members of said remnant are so hard to find on a localized level. That one makes me wonder. I do think there are people in the church system who "know" something is wrong but they have taken what they can get to get social ties. I don't agree with this of course. I know being alone out there can be tough. I do think healthier people who do not have medical and other barriers, could definitely start their own bible studies or fellowships. I did have a bible study with one person for a time but they got a job and became very busy, this was a few years ago. We should do what the Lord leads us to do. I know my idea of trying to find like-minded people via bible studies in the churches didn't lead anywhere good. Independent thinkers can be tough to find. I searched for a house fellowship years ago but only found an odd SDA one that was into diet legalisms and vestiges of Hebrew Roots, I ran very far away. LOL>. Pray for what God wants you to do. One thing because of what I went through with the spiritual abuser, be very careful even with people who may act like they are discerning and see through the church system. There's a lot of wolves out there and some will try and mirror. I do wish I listened to the earliest of the discernment. Also too, don't let the thought "There can't be this many wolves out there" dissuade you or get you to shut down what your discernment is telling you. There ARE that many wolves out there.

Paul said...

I too left an IFB church in the last 18 months because of the legalism and worship of a sinful man who knew less of the bible than I do (called a pastor). Who by the way took no offense at some women in the church calling him "papa". Sickening! I am not sure I can ever attend another church again in my lifetime. I am so tired of "pastors" and so called protestant churches defending the Pope and Catholicism. I experienced it in the Pentecostal churches, the Calvary Chapel movement and in the IFB church. I have had to come to the same conclusion as some others. That it is highly likely that the protestant churches have become so infiltrated with Freemasons or Jesuits that the protestant church has become impotent. Some may think that "conspiracy theory". But read your bible. Preferably a KJV and you will see it clearly stated over and over again how Satan uses his minions to conspire against the one true God and His Christ and His people continually. I did not want to believe this at one point in the past. But I do now believe this to be the fate of the vast majority of protestant churches. I have seen and heard enough with my own ears and eyes.

Debra said...

We are foreigners living in a different land which is what we should feel in the midst of many. Our language is different, our thoughts lead us to hunger after spiritual conversations but very difficult to find those who speak the same language. It's all very simple...if you love Jesus with all your heart, your heart will speak through words that edify His Name. We have to remember there will be those who have a hatred for Jesus, spoken or unspoken. This will be carried out in the way they treat or speak to us. Gnashing of the teeth would be too obvious, but verbal or emotional abuse stays under the radar. Hearts have grown cold and I mean colder. They are like ice that hits you in the face when you are not looking. Makes you want to stay indoors for safety. The enemy wants confusion so he brings it on. If you are exposed to the NPD world your head will want to reason and make sense to what is happening. Demean, criticize, control and conquer is the NPD's goal so you will always have to seek out their approval and acceptance. It never will happen and don't even try. They want you victimized so you feel worthless while they retain power over you. Hope no one has to experience this.

Anonymous said...

Most churches are apostasy or spiritual death traps. Paul once told the Corinthian church" Your meetings do more harm than good". These people call themselves fundamentalists but do not really go by the fundamentals of the Bible. Many are believing the false hope and false gospel of once saved always saved or "once a son always a son" (If this were true, we could never come to God and be his child because we were once sons of disobedience and children of the devil). Legalism or "works" defined by Eph 2:8-9 is just trying to be justified by the works of the law apart from Christ, that is not grace, but a saving faith will obey Jesus. It is not an either or situation-- either eternal security in sin or works or legalism. Both are wrong- there is a third one that is right. The sheep must continue follow, obey, and live holy. This is what Paul preached and he was not a legalist. Sometimes people tell me that I'm a Pharisee when I share the warning verses that call for obedience and avoiding sin (not all sins are same degree) but the Pharisees never preached obedience to Jesus. Follow Jesus and make sure you die with a pure heart-- and if so, you will receive a rich welcome to the Kingdom and will never be lonely again Christians all around the world are suffering trials and loneliness. God bless you - Olga

Soldier of Jah said...

By beholding we become. Although we are to exoose the works of darkness we are far more to immerse ourselves in the precious Son of God and His Father and the beautiful blessings they bestow upon us. We are to look to Christ who is the author and finisher of our faith rather than always focusing on the evils of the world. Remember, bank tellers don't study the counterfeit money they study the real thing. Maybe reducing the exposing of the evil of this world and posting more bible studies will lead to more joy.

Anonymous said...


John 5:24,Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

Jude 24 Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy

John 10:29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand

John 4:14: “But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life.”

John 17:9-12: “I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine. And all mine are thine, and thine are mine; and I am glorified in them. And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee, Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are. While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.”

John 11:26: “And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?”

John 6:37: “All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out"

John 6:39: “And this is the Father’s will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.

John 6:51: “I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live forever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world."

1 Peter 1:5: “Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time"

Romans 8:1: “There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.”

Colossians 3:3: “For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.”

Ephesians 4:30: “And grieve not the Holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.”

Ephesians 1:13: “In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise

1 Peter 1:23: “Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth forever

1 Peter 1:4-5: “To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you, Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.”

Romans 8:38-39: “For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Philippians 1:6: “Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ.”

Titus 1:2: “In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began.

2 Timothy 4:18: “And the Lord shall deliver me from every evil work, and will preserve me unto his heavenly kingdom: to whom be glory forever and ever.”

Psalms 37:28: “For the Lord loveth judgment, and forsaketh not his saints; they are preserved forever: but the seed of the wicked shall be cut off

Isaiah 49:15: “Can a woman forget her sucking child, that she should not have compassion on the son of her womb? yea, they may forget, yet I will not forget thee"

Jeremiah 32:40: “And I will make an everlasting covenant with them, that I will not turn away from them, to do them good; but I will put my fear in their hearts, that they shall not depart from me"

Anonymous said...

Christ Jesus is the Good Shepard, he keeps us believers from falling, and would never let us go astray. We cannot lose our salvation. I know you know this BB, but would like everyone that doesn't know to realize this important fact. Also remember that there is nothing you can do to separate you from the love of God. Our father would never stop loving us, the same way a parent would never stop loving their child. I meant to put all of this in one post, but it was too long LOL. Sorry.....God bless...James

2 Timothy 1:12For the which cause I also suffer these things: nevertheless I am not ashamed: for I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which I have committed unto him against that day.

Hebrews 7:25 Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them

Bible Believer said...

Wow Paul, they actually called the pastor "papa" guess they never read the verse "Call no man father", that's awful. I don't think I can ever attend another church service either. Yes even in the IFB I heard the same defenses for Catholicism too. I was told I was "too extreme" on that issue more then once.
yes some want to claim there is no "conspiracies" or "evil plots" what planet do they live on? I agree with you on the fate of most Protestant churches too.

I agree Debra, they hide the gnashing of the teeth but the cold hearts are growing and they make sure to make you feel the "freeze". Yes those are the tools the seared used, constant criticism, smear campaigns and endless lies and the way they work they entice people to please and serve them, some out of fear and some out of some evil thing in human nature that wants to please evil and power and mammon first. I wouldn't wish dealing with NPDs on anyone.

Olga I agree about the fundamentalists who do not go by the fundamentals of the bible. I agree a fruit of salvation desiring to obey God. I agree there has to be others in our boat, facing being out there on our own. They are out there. I agree about the third way in between the two extremes.

Jah exposing the evils of this world is not easy. It would be easier to "ignore" all of it. . If one knows God or thinks of faith, this world does not measure up at all, not our home, our displeasure with it, may not be a sign of unholiness but the opposite. I am responsible for what I know. One huge temptation sent to Christians outside the church system, is to shut down our thinking, shut up, and go "back" so we are no longer lonely and will be "happier". This temptation has come to me STRONG, and involved even shutting down this blog, and to go shut up, be quiet, and find a "church" to be accepted in and no longer exploring these issues.

I'm not the type of personality that can sit happy in a pew knowing I am being lied to. SDA obviously doesn't cut it for me either.

2 Corinthians 6:17King James Version (KJV)

17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.

A lot of the bible deals with evil, so not sure I could do bible studies where no evil comes up LOL

Thank you James, for those reminders, I appreciate it.

Solomon Rodriguez said...

Of course we are to expose evil but we are also to taste of the good things of Jehovah and His Son. The bible even says to meditate on the pure and noble things

Bible Believer said...

It's not work everyone is cut out to do. Anyhow you need to get out of that SDA cult. CUlts always emphasize "only think of the good" to get you to shut down your mind and to "never criticize" the wolves in the pulpit or in your case the false prophetess that started your religion with other masonics.

Soldier of Jah said...


If you only knew the stance i have taken against the Seventh-day Adventist General Conference. I have lost speaking engagements in the Church, a potential spouse, i have refused to be involved in their ministries after being offered and have turned down a certification for evangelism. This was all because I exposed the heavy SDA GC involvement in FEMA Clergy response team and the UN and Vatican

Anonymous said...

The evil has increased to such a degree in the world, it's like an oppression hanging over everything. People at work are noticing and they aren't even Christians. I stopped going to church a few years ago. I was told that since I seem to be the only one noticing a problem, maybe I am the problem. It's very lonely. The Christians I know go to the mega, loud music, bright lights, mystical, etc., churches and go see movies like fifty shades. They think the Whosoevers are doing such a good job reaching the unreachable. I see Ryan Ries will be at the KKLA prayer breakfast with Rick Warren. I am the weirdo. I am the target of a NPD ex right now who is dishing out evil and nastiness, trying to turn our child against me and get rid of my as cheaply as possible... he has convinced her to be an atheist and now she shows contempt for God. I look around at the increased crime and hardness of hearts. The coldness. Thank you for your blog BB. Thank you for talking about your struggles. It gets very tiring here on this earth. Prayers for you and everyone on here.