Monday, March 20, 2017

False Prosperity Gospel Worsening

Warning, I am using this video as an example of FALSE PREACHING.

Talk about the wresting of scripture. The prosperity gospel is related to the false teaching of tithing where these false pastors promise wealth to people for giving them 10 percent of their income. He even sadly abuses Psalm 23, "I shall not want" to mean no one will be poor. Also the idea that one can pray to God about what job to take and what to major in college and go step by step so you do not end up poor in this life, is insane. That's a faith destroying message if I ever heard of one. I was praying to God to let my rust bucket car start, a couple weeks ago, it wouldn't, we got socked with another car repair. It's fixed now but according to this guy, I did something "wrong" or "forgot a prayer" and that's why I had "lack" and was then waiting for the bus. How long do people last in these churches if they are not rich? You know false theology is theology that does NOT STAND UP TO THE REALITIES OF THIS WORLD. You know there is an insanity to these false teachers and those who follow them where reality itself is DENIED.

Luke 18: 22 Now when Jesus heard these things, he said unto him, Yet lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me.

23 And when he heard this, he was very sorrowful: for he was very rich.

24 And when Jesus saw that he was very sorrowful, he said, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God!

25 For it is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.


Debra said...

It's so convenient for them to extract money from those they preach to. The whole premise of the prosperity gospel is to give them money so God gives them money in return. Why are believers falling for that? Seems like money is the object of their devotion. They believe God operates like a slot machine hoping to strike it rich. All they have to do is give to their favorite prosperity preacher and bingo they have struck gold. They want the appearance of being successful and idolized for all their money. They get poorer while the preachers get richer...but wait you haven't given enough and that is why you are still poor. Believers just keep coming back for more and maybe money will come in the back of a pick up truck ready to dump at your doorstep. Lust of the flesh, lust of the eyes and the boastful pride of life.

Bible Believer said...

Yes God like an ATM machine and give one of the pastor/magicians a wad of money and he will increase it 10 fold for the believer. Hey the churches are money obsessed, even your typical church with the David Ramsey lectures, that is "conservative" has the prosperity gospel in it, since it is the wealthy who are seen as more moral and "pillars of the community". Money is the object of devotion. This stuff is crushing to the poor too, imagine being told as you go to your hard factory or retail job, and can barely pay your rent, that you are poor because you didn't have enough faith or were too cheap to your pastor. The love of money is growing worse. Money [lack there of] is an oppression on me, so I am not saying I am free of the challenges. Satan can use poverty to destroy people spiritually and I am fighting, but I'll be frank, these churches make his job a LOT EASIER. I may write about how poverty itself can cause spiritual destruction in a society like this one soon.

Anonymous said...

I've had people ask me, "Do you want to be a SLAVE to being on SSI & Social Security for the rest of your life?" "The government is NOT your husband!", etc. I'm sitting here feeling pressured to feel like I HAVE to go out & get a job. But at the same time, I'm supposed to be a keeper at home.

Bible Believer said...

I've been insulted the same way for a long time. What is odd is even when I was in far better shape I barely could get a job to save my life, and had to take dangerous work others did not want to stay employed. I look at a husband who was cast out of the "professional" world for not having the right looks, health and a disabled wife. I suspect HIGHLY that his last professional job kicked him to the curb leading into our ten years of past poverty when a, he got turned down for life insurance based on a vein disorder, and b. I went on supplemental. What else would a good review mean near the end of Dec, he started in Oct, and out by Jan/Feb mean the same week I signed onto his insurance? I kind of take a lot of Republicans for hypocrites with their "get a job" mantras since if anything they have made getting and keeping a job almost impossible even for those with mild and moderate health problems who CAN WORK. I ended a friendship when she called me a slave to Social Security. Republicans who chant rah rah for war, while downing the "few" good things the government does for the populace, I will never understand. They can spout off about socialism and other garbage, all I know is the bankers got trillions of that socialism.

Anonymous said...


Hello Guys

Haven't comment for a while. (New job commitments and so forth), however I felt I had to comment.

BB I find your comment interesting regarding how people equate being rich to morals. This is sooo wrong. A couple of days ago, just read about Edwina Mountbatten and her husband Lord MOuntbatten who were family to the queen over here (England) and these people were so immorally corrupt. They were both bisexual and had an 'open marriage' where they knew and accepted each others affairs with other members of the aristocrats. Members of their 'club' included aristocrats and a carribean man who was also bi had many children by many different women and one of them never even met him or her mother because the mother was an aristocrat and back in those days (the 30s) it was a social taboo to have an out of wedlock baby especially (if you were white) for a coloured man, so she was adopted out.

Fast forward many years later and we have the likes of Jimmy SAville notorious pervert as well as Chuck Berry. Then there are many others like the Clintons, Bill Gothard and many others. and they all have/had - wait for it - money.

No getting saved, obeying and following the standards that God has placed in front of you make you a person with morals not money and it is a shame that churches promote this idealogy that those with money are highly revered and regarding and woe betide you if you dont fit that category.

I agree with a few things this guy has said however. Yes sometimes living like the devil or not seeking proper counsel with God can create problems. I am talking about not taking out loans for things you cannot afford. The bible warns that the servant is slave to the lender and debt is seen as a negative thing, so you are better of not even going there. However this is not the only reason for poverty. Sickness, unemployment can cause problems. I have heard of people who were high income earners who were reduced a poverty level living due to losing their jobs and being unable to find another one.

One thing i cannot stand is people who insist that they know your circumstances that you have an issue because you are on benefits/welfare. I had a fall out with an uncle over this because he really shouted and yelled at me down the phone. Also at my new work place now, after complaining about the heavy workload placed on top of me, my boss turned around and said - if you want to be sucessful in life, this is what you have to endure.

Well how about wanting to go into work and just work to make money to take care of oneselves. No that does not exist anymore. It is all about sucess and woe betide you if you do not agree. So I guess I am a 'loser' then.

Bible Believer said...

Sure the ultra rich, are known for skating the edge of morality, the aristocracy was known for open affairs and experimentations, among the conspiracy set, some of their child abuse and other worse evils are being exposed.

Even Epsteins sickening island with Prince Edward's involvements hit some international news, but none of this was followed up on course.

Among many "conservatives" they have been taught quite firmly that the rich are their moral and harder worker betters. I got into a debate with a man where I had to walk away, and he got angry when I told him many top bankers were wicked and that I had known some rich people in my life, and most who moved up the tiers did so based on connections--6 figure jobs right out of college and inheritance.

Well even broken clocks are right twice a day, and yeah there is a lot of bad stuff that can be done with money where people spend it unwisely. I don't consider anyone truly rich who can be rendered poor via a job removal. Yes one can sink down fast if they lose their job. Sure there is a lot of abuse out there, now you have to be a super star and be worked like a dog just to eat. My husband got lectured during some of his last jobs, how he had to work 12-14 hour days and the brainwashed praised such a system. He's too sick for that now of course.

Sure everything is about success, and achievement and being a good "serf", very few of them question the system. People used to work to live not live to work, they had lives outside of work. Now that seems to be going by the way side.

dreamzzzz said...

My two cents.. The parable of Lazarus and the rich man where the rich man ended in hell while Lazarus ended in Abrahams bosom. I would think Lazarus was very very poor.. a brother in Christ going though very tough times on earth. Churches these days are more concerned about being full than getting anyone saved. They are all thinking about the next big show that they will organize successfully.

William Sculley said...

Giving of one's wealth for the benefit of the Church is a good thing in the right context. But you'll find that in Orthodoxy, we do not have things like "stewardship month". We do pass around a plate, but we do not require a person to give anything if they are unable to do so. Almsgiving should be done in secret as much as possible. Yes, you'll get a record of how much you have given them over the year if you're planning on itemizing your tax return, but that is as far as it goes. We must remember that not everyone can give money, but we can "tithe" our time and talents. I could offer my bookkeeping services to the Church, and another could volunteer to work in the nursery. These are all different ways in which we can serve.

Remember that the number one thing we can offer for the people of our community is falling prostrate before Christ and praying that He has mercy, first on us, then on those around us, because we all need His mercy.