Tuesday, February 28, 2017

The Cult Next Door-Bill Gothard

The Cult Next Door(Offical Trailer #4) from Youngman Films on Vimeo.

"The Cult Next Door" short documentary exposes the founder of The Institute in Basic Life Principles, Bill Gothard. The cultic group is focuses on authority and control. Gothard and the organization is now facing a multimillion lawsuit for rape and sexual assult. Sign up for the email update list. This is a good way to stay updated with the film and how to eventually view it!
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Debra said...

The short film is on line https://vimeo.com/205976732?from=outro-embed
Jesus told us to be alert, stay awake, not become deceived. During the anti-Christ and false prophet many will become deceived because they did not really know the voice of our Father. Bill Gothard and many others who present a false gospel are leading many away from the true gospel. This is a great time of deception.

Deception is permeating like a fog midst among believers. There is no questioning, testing, examining of teaching and preaching. If the pastor says it, it must be right. If the Christian Bible study leader uses material that is flat out blasphemy, occultic, false and heretical it's ok because they are the authoritarian. They know better because they have a higher position in the body of Christ and the last thing you want to do is come against that authority. (Higher position according to their man-made hierarchy). It would make you very unpopular. They will tell you where the door is which has happened to me. You can't stay comfortable for long when you are being covered in doctrines of men who pervert the gospel. I need to add, just because the words spoken identify with truth, it does not mean the deliverer of the message is of God. The devil comes as an angel of light and his messengers are disguised as believers of the light. Do not be fooled by their words or appearance, they are ravenous wolves. Infiltration within the Christian body has occurred for many years.

Speaking the truth got Paul in big trouble. The Pharisees and others of his time did not want to hear the truth, it was grating to their ears. I can't imagine how their teeth must have hurt from all their gnashing. This is what real truth does, it stirs the dark soul and brings out the hate. As believers we become the target of hate of those who have rejected Jesus. In one job I had it came time for my review. I was brought into the conference room with my supervisor. Out of the blue she said there is no heaven! All the while my review transformed into confronting my beliefs with her seething anger. I had not mentioned anything about my beliefs prior to her adamant hostility. My response was I love you still no matter what you say to me. I don't think I convinced her of my belief in heaven and Jesus, but rather I believe God used this situation for His glory. One day I hope to see her in heaven knowing she changed her mind while on earth.

A works gospel dismantles the cross and His grace. A gospel taught with only grace without obedience to His word is still not the true gospel. We honor grace by obedience but obedience is done out of love for our Savior while walking in the power of God's Holy Spirit.

Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

2 Thessalonians 2:9-14 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

John 10:5 And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers.”

Luke 21:8 And he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them.

I Peter 5:8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour

Debra said...

Diluting the word of God... leads to deception... which leads to delusion if one believes the deliverer of the message.

Marcos said...

This documentary is absolute crap. A lost opportunity to expose the real profile of manipulators and false teachers.
Instead, it attacks the Bible and biblical principles of the husband as the spiritual leader of the house. It is a feminist hit piece. It's clear that the women interviewed there have a grudge against Christianity more than against Gothard.
If anyone agrees with the views of the critics there, the only rational solution is to leave Christianity for good. I wonder if that is not the objective of the filmmaker to start with.

Anonymous said...

Good words Debra!

Debra said...

A works gospel devalues our inherited worth as children loved and redeemed by God. The enemy says you are not worthy to receive God's grace and perfect love. You must earn it continuously to receive acceptance into the Kingdom of God. Many false religions teach- you may never know your salvation until you face God on judgement day. This is another lie of the enemy. Our value is based upon God's precious love for us not a works based religion that perpetuates "you are not good enough until" your performance is acceptable in the eyes of God and false teachers.

Our value comes from the finished work of Jesus when He offered up His body as a sacrifice for our sins. How many find themselves rejecting God because they feel He has rejected them because of false indoctrination and teaching?

Another dynamic is jealousy. So the ministry leader(s) reward those who give or do the most for them. It brings on competition from within...who is going to serve the pastor for the most rewards...who is going to follow all the laws so they get accepted by God. It's a form of blasphemy as they are discarding the finished work of Jesus on the cross. As I stated before, grace is a treasure held in humility. We never earned this grace, it was freely given. We were bought with a price...

I Corinthians 6:20 20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

I John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

Romans 3:23-26 23For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; 24Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: 25Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; 26To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.

Debra said...

I was getting involved with a church counseling ministry. One of the questions I had with the head counseling pastor was what does the church do if a woman is getting abused by her husband. He said the word says to submit in all things. I said what if he is beating her to death. He said, then she should continue to submit even if she dies. Needless to say I did not continue with that ministry. I took it to the main pastor with my letter in hand and he said don't tell anyone about this. Nice cover up I would say. The Lord Jesus said submit unto your husband as onto the Lord. If the husband is acting like a criminal and murderer, he surely is not acting like the Lord.

Anonymous said...


Anytime there is some sort of spiritual abuse, or the twisting of Scriptures, or pointing out the blatant hyprocrisy (living a life of double standards using god as your orifice for personal sin) on the part of a male teacher or preacher within the Christian forum,

from women who have experienced injustice,

it never fails that there are men out there that immediately cry out "feminism" and use the 'headship' theology as a weapon against a preacher/teacher man's wicked and vile sin.

Not surprised by your comment Marcos, for it gives me a sour taste of your version of my LORD Jesus Christ.

"Blessed is the man who does not walk in the counsel of the wicked
Nor stands in the path of sinners
Nor sits in the seat with the scornful." Psalm 1

Bible Believer said...

The feminism and patriarchy movement work hand in hand

Why do you think so many feminists arose to beat back oppressors?

This is not a Christian video and false teachers with their lord it over edicts for women are outraging non-Christians.

Thank you last anon.

Bible Believer said...

Debra, that is a false teacher.

There are endless warnings in the bible about how Christians should flee the wicked and the seared. That would include a psychopathic, sociopathic, malignant narcissistic husband. The enablers of the abusers who tell women to keep all boundaries down against a wicked unrepentant man are sharing in the evil. the churches have failed when it comes to the seared and sociopath. I should do an article on that. yes I am behind, but those false teachers need called out. I think about the deliverance minister who told me I was demonized for being abused, more then the ones who did it in the first place.

Debra said...

Yes BB, I would not be surprised if he was a Luciferian as many now have infiltrated the church system. I was not so much aware back then about the infiltration as I am now. The problem lies with believers who put leaders of the church in higher status tending to believe they are presenting truth. False teachings are flying in the face of the deceived rather than testing all things. They follow false shepherds like a herd going to slaughter. We need to pray for their eyes to be opened so they see them as they truly are. Many cannot believe there are wolves among sheep. What would be their consequence if they confronted such lies? They would be cast out as apostates for disagreeing and exposing the darkness. So many are not willing to forfeit their standing and popularity among the attendees let alone the self appointed pastors and leaders. So real fellowship becomes difficult to find. The Lord knows our needs and He provides the opportunities to minister. We need to continue to draw close to the Lord as everything continues to grow lukewarm and cold.

Anonymous said...

Dear Bible Believer,

As God, the Holy Spirit, leads you, I believe many of us here would appreciate and learn from an article written on psychopaths, sociopaths, and vile narcissists who use the fa├žade of visible Christianity to lord it over others for their personal agendas. These people, both men and women within the c'hurch, love the praise of man and make sure their 'works' are seen and heard by everyone, for everything they do is carefully planned to make them 'appear as Christians' when in fact, they are vipers and wolves in sheep's clothing.

Jesus did not spare words when addressing the false religious elite. Agree, Bible Believer, both patriarchy and feminism seek to create some sort of false hierarchal system designed to create chaos within the Christian home and in the Body of Jesus Christ as well/ His Ekklesia. I believe because the c'hurch in general has been so focused on these false teachings in recent years, the teaching and fruit of the Gospel has been diminished, and in many churches, lost altogether, due to the selfish teachings of the wolves.

Encouraging you in your faith BB. Be strong and courageous, for the LORD, your God, is with you wherever you go. Joshua 1:9

Bible Believer said...

I tend towards believing he is one of the knowing deceivers, maybe a knowing closet Jesuit with his never marriage while promoting marriage and quiverful nonsense.

Many elevate men like this to god status over their lives. Why is he considered more wise then others with his wisdom booklets? Some just want to blindly follow. They do follow false shepherds like a herd going over the cliff. Yes the times are difficult, I have felt extreme pressure, hard to explain. Everything is growing lukewarm and cold.

Thanks I will work on the article soon, I know I been more slowed down. The spiritual attacks have been difficult. Life itself feels confusing. I do want to write and warn about psychopaths, sociopaths and the narcissists, they are running most of the churches. There's the pious religious laymen too who cause misery. The church system as a whole teaches enable abuse. There is a reason false forgiveness and blind obedience is taught. Look at Gothard, he's even been exposed for preying on young girls to an extent, and still they follow. One thing I have noted is how the wicked lead people so easily by the nose. Yes I see the extreme patriarchy and feminism doing a two dance step, to create havoc and war between men and women. The patriarchialists who want women crushed are all mad as well. That's another sickening thing where abusers simply for being male are told they can lord over women and turned women into eternal children.

Yes the fruit of the gospel has been suppressed with this stuff. Thank you for your prayers and encouragement.

Debra said...

I'm beginning to wonder about the narcissist. I studied this "mental illness" for two years and know a bible study leader who has this. When people think of narcissist, they think oh that person is in love with themselves and is selfish. It is so much more than that, exemplifying an angelic and kind demeanor for the world to see, while behind the scenes they are terrorizing their chosen victim(s) without one ounce of sympathy. Rather the strength and pleasure grows from within while they watch their prey die a slow emotional death. They love to wreak havoc within relationships, create chaos, destroy and dissemate the one(s) who will receive venom from their tongue. All the while presenting a persona of a docile and inflicted recipient of their scapegoat's abuse. They are like Judas who will betray you on the cheek with a kiss and then throw a forceful blow when your guard is down. This is their amusement and gratification, mauling until you bleed. This is called the mean sweet cycle. A narcissist uses rage for any reason at all to intimidate those into submission. Every blow says you are worthless, unloved, rejected. You will never be able to please them, never reaching the state of acceptance. You must be under their control and domination. If you dare stand up for yourself and expiose who they really are you will pay the price of severe vengeance without mercy. Narcissist are like criminals who plot and plan their next attack. I've seen them act this out like a script written for Hollywood. This script is saturated in diabolical themes and deception. This Is why I'm beginning to think it cannot be categorized in the mental illness category,This defining personality is seen over and over with the same traits like stamped out cookie cutters. I'm beginning to think it is a demonic spirit ruling over their lives. They can turn off and on their acts of sedition when needed to hide behind their phony angelic appearance.

Debra said...

Meant to use the word sadistic and not sedition.

Debra said...

From Christian Post April 2014...

Debra said...

A must read of a personal testimony from being under the authority of Bill Gothard and her abusive parents.

Debra said...

When a believer is used to feeding on pig's feed they get accustomed to it. In fact it gets to be tastier each time they nibble on more of the mush. They have forgotten about their King's choice food which is rich and satisfying. Their taste buds have diminished for truth and have gone after spoiled and rotten manna that was hoarded in disobedience. Swallowing heretical teaching is customary while they invite others to join in their banquet of choice.If it satisfies their flesh then it must be good until the next meal is served up. Excitement is brimming over while gushing on every false prophetic word spoken. The punch line doesn't get any better than a sugar infested high that is sweeter than honey. A new revelation floats at the top like cream in a cup. It will change your life, really... only if you invest a $1,000 to this ministry. I remember someone who actually gave over that amount to a ministry because they marketed a higher level of teaching and revelations. I don't believe they ever received the advertised material and was disappointed waiting for it. This is all none other than Adam and Eve in the garden desiring the knowledge of good and evil, becoming like God. Pride in being righteous and most favored resembles the Pharisees of their day. We see such manipulation to follow a man made system rather than Jesus who is our true Shepherd. Thus some wander off to delight on pig's food which God never intended for them.

Bible Believer said...

Yes Debra, narcissism goes far beyond some vain person preening in front of a mirror, it is far darker then that. There is some stages in it between covert ones and malignant, but the malignant ones are the "seared", or sociopaths. One thing they follow is the wolf in sheep's clothing. The thing that sums up the "disorder" is the wearing of masks. The bible would call it deceit.

They enjoy hurting others and love using scapegoats as trash cans. yes it is just like Judas. Their rage which looks "out of control" is just part of the act for control, if someone they want to please comes around, their screaming and bugged out eyes will turn to a smile in a second. Nothing is ever good for narcissists. They do everything for control and "to win". you are right about the cookie cutters, they all act the same and follow the same "scripts". Some are more diabolical and cunning then others, but there is no creativity in Satan's work.

Fornits is an interesting website, it exposes the mindcontrol and severe abuse of the "troubled youth" industry. There are many young people who come out of Quiverful, ATI and Gothard households who later expose the abuse. I still wonder why not one Duggar adult child, has escaped or broken away.

Agree with your post, remember this world also puts pressure to conform. Selling out gives you "acceptance" "social status" and a group to be with.