Tuesday, August 16, 2016

"Gothard Explains Why God Allows Child Molestation"


"Gothard Explains Why God Allows Child Molestation"

This topic oddly ties in with my last article. False theology and lies. "God" as the instigator of evil. God has nothing to do with "allowing child molestation" this is the free will a perverted and mostly sociopathic human being. With a 15 year old, we are most likely looking at someone themselves who has been a victim of child molestation.  Homeschoolers Anonymous is correct about it being total victim-blaming. A 4 year old is barely out of babyhood, it is beyond disgusting. If we want to see why the Duggar family ran off the rails, protecting their child molesting son and not his victims, just read Gothard's teachings here. It is very sick stuff. #4 sounds like occult sex magic. One does not get "spiritual powers" via sex. I'm ready to puke. Let's pray for all children caught up in these sick cults.

15 comments:

Anonymous said...

Agree with you, BB. Also on #5, we do not write God's law on our heart as He does it. Isaiah 59:21, Jeremiah 31:33 & Hebrews 10:16 - Don

Bible Believer said...

Thanks Don, #5 is insane too as if a human being has the power to save themselves and seek their own regeneration, but that's a legalistic cult for you Gothardism.

Anonymous said...

SallySays

!Lord have mercy!. !WHAT!

Somebody just tell me that this man is not for real? I am sorry this is beyond sick. Makes me want to retch.

I've have also heard this as well - in a similar fashion. God used a bully, a child molester, some other devil processed individual to attack you because he wants you to have a relationship with him or to strengthen it even though you was a child at the time.

People are capable of bring bad consequences on themselves due to their actions yes. But what on earth did a small child do to incur Gods wrath that God allowed some deviant to take advantage of him?

Bible Believer said...

It is beyond sick. Remember Gothard had troubles of his own too...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2016/01/06/new-charges-allege-religious-leader-who-has-ties-to-the-duggars-sexually-abused-women/

Looks like blaming the victim worked for this would be sociopath.

I think it's sick for anyone to say child molestation is "God's will". Most child molesters are sociopaths, or severely personality disordered as psychologists would put it or biblically SEARED. Some were abused themselves but then did make a decision to turn to evil. There are many people who have been abused as children who did not go on to abuse others.

I agree, what did a 4 year do? or any other small child. It's sick. I think whoever wrote this stuff had a perverted mind. It was always weird to me how married people would follow some old man who never dated or married or had children for marriage and family advice, but then the same happens with the "priests".

Anonymous said...

What does 'moral vaccination' mean? To me, this is language from a wickedly depraved mind!

And homeschooling families follow this man of perversion? Seriously? Then turn around and castigate those parents who choose to educate their children through the public school system. And also, when we don't idolize their homeschooling methods/curriculums, they cry "persecution, persecution." Maybe some of us level headed parents are just sick and tired of many of the homeschooling parents just being condescending and self righteous with their wicked words and self righteous attitudes against us. Perhaps this movement isn't as godly as it seems on the outside of the cup.

kold_kadavr_ flatliner said...

Brilliant, brudda. Some will go Upstairs, most will go down: whether a hardcore, neurological dysfunction OR sumtin learned, absolutely nthn we can do 'cept prayNwork to save souls. Jesus has the Ultimate POW!er. Cya soon in the Great Beyond where I'd like a beer...

Bible Believer said...

I think 'moral vaccination' was a sick term too and showed the sociopathy. So being sexually abused will vaccinate one? how sick is that. I am sure some of the pedophile elites would love that one.

Yes this guy is big in homeschooling, they have some other real strange ones in that world too. Do an index check if you are newer on homeschooling. While public schools have serious problems, my mind has changed about homeschooling. While some do it well, it leaves too much openings to abuses. If parents are nuts, narcissistic or cult members it allows them to shut the children away and keep them isolated and ignorant. The Duggar children are very poorly educated and you can see it in the adults. This keeping children isolated and ignorant just leaves them more as prey in this world. I met too many who judged parents who had to live on two incomes for sending their children to public school. I don't think the movement is godly.

http://galatiansfour.blogspot.com/2011/09/influencing-homeschool-movement-to-take.html

Anonymous said...

These people written about in this article are evil and do not represent homeschool movement. Please do not judge all homeschool families based on the actions of this group.

Abigail said...

I agree with you, BB, when you say that you don't think the homeschooling MOVEMENT is godly. I can't think of any examples at all of modern movements that are godly. Not one. Not church-led movements, or political movements, or even very well-intentioned movements. Anything with enough people in it to qualify as a movement in this day and age is going to be corrupt. The homeschooling movement is no exception. My final student (I homeschooled my children from kindergarten on) just left for college so I feel qualified to speak out for those of us homeschoolers that chose to homeschool out of conviction and dedication. It was difficult. I avoided homeschool movements, seminars, etc. like the plague and paid the price for that. Most of my children's friends were in public schools, and the judgment never came from our side of the relationship. I and my children were constantly judged, quizzed, criticized, assessed...but we just kept doing our thing and didn't put down other families' educational choices or expect anyone's admiration.

It saddens me to imagine a homeschooling mom, struggling to do her best for her children at this, the hardest time of the school year, seeing what you wrote and being discouraged. A movement that is tainted and bad is often used by those in the know to discredit the very people it purports to represent. The homeschooling movement never represented me and it doesn't represent many hard-working, self-sacrificing families who are just trying to mind their own business and educate their children in a way that includes a spiritual and Christ-imitating element. Just because we homeschool doesn't mean we are identical to some judgmental or abusive or hyper-political homeschooler you've met or seen on TV. It almost seems like you think the government should crack down and make homeschooling illegal. Should Bibles be illegal because some use the Bible to justify abuse? Should stay-at-home moms be forced to have the government monitor their children because some mothers abuse them behind closed doors? Be careful that you don't fall for the clever schemes of the worldly to actually make you decide that the government is ever really on the side of the godly. Evil people exist in every segment of society, but it's the good people that tend to suffer when the government steps in to "rectify" things by taking away our freedoms.

KJVmom said...

I'm with Abigail. I am in my 22nd year of homeschooling, and it is work, but with God' s grace I will see it through the end; we have 3 more years. I must say the longer I go, the less I am involved with the homeschool movement. I have generally done things differently than most homeschooling families in my area, using different materials and methods; of course our base is the Bible. . It is sad indeed that the movement has been taken over by people like Gothard, the Duggers, et al. I fully support one's right to homeschool and think it can be wonderful, I just get tired of famous homeschoolers telling us their way is best and lording it over others. And yes, there is abuse, but abuse can happen in any group of people; no one seems to be immune. BTW, the Homemakes Corner website has excellent articles on the Duggars and the Quiverful movement.

Anonymous said...

SallySays

I have to second Anonymous at 6.28pm. I don't think we should lump all homeschooling families in one category due to the madness of one group and I am not part of this group.

I think like many other groups, the organisations in homeschooling have been infiltrated by a bunch with sinister intentions like everywhere else.

Anonymous said...

Abigail, Thank-you for your testimony in educating us concerning your lifestyle. As a public schooling as well as homeschooling parent (we utilized both methods), I cannot hold one up as an idol over the other. We are no better, nor any less, for combining both methods into our children's educational needs.

As a parent within the public school system, we were mocked for using homeschooling curriculums that we believed were of sound Biblical doctrine, by the parents as well as the school administration. We were threatened by the school that our children would not be allowed to combine both, it was all or nothing according to the school principal. That is, until I called her bluff. We have several children attending the public school system, which means less federal funding for the school if our children were pulled out and homeschooled. After the principal realized their foolish statement/threat made in haste, they reconsidered the substantial funding lost and conveniently decided to work with me, the parent.

By the same token, I have and am still encountering homeschooling parents who are equally as sharp with their false judgements and criticisms/condemnations. These parents pride themselves on homeschooling one hundred percent with equally mocking comments made towards those who choose the public school systems. In my experience with homeschooling parents within the church system, homeschooling parents are highly competitive and make sure their children are always first in everything. And they take pride in having their children 'be seen' as serving the lord. As long as they are first, they are happy and 'nice,' however, when their families are not 'first,' these parents/children become angry, bitter, and just plain insulting with their mouths. Many of them cry 'we are persecuted because we are homeschooled/homeschooling!

Persecution as far as we are concerned grows in both camps of education. No one is better than the other concerning the pride issue. In understanding government/politics, I actually do believe homeschooling will be outlawed eventually, as children are increasingly becoming wards of the state. Also, we as parents/adults are slowly succumbing to the one world order, thus becoming wards of the state in other ways.

And yes, evil and wicked people do exist in every segment of society, and I personally, am just as concerned when 'the government' steps in to rectify things by taking away our freedoms. I also am very saddened and equally concerned when I see church authority/or church busy bodies doing the exact same things as the government we choose to criticize. They too, under the false titles of authority (made up of both homeschooling and public schooling parents), seek to steal our freedoms in Jesus Christ as well as doing the work of satan in destroying marriages and family relationships. I have witnessed many marriages and families divided by church members...how can this be?

This saddens me, for I have not seen them on television, but are living amongst them in our communities. As the Scriptures command us, we should not be revilers, nor compare ourselves to one another, but seek to exhibit all of the fruits of the Spirit, as well as love our neighbors as ourselves. We must always remember that judgement begins in the house of the LORD, not out there somewhere (meaning unbelievers.)

Anonymous said...

Don't fall for the lie that homeschooling families are "the enemy." I don't know
who/what the Duggars and Gothard truly are, but I can see they are as representative of homeschooling as they are of Christianity. I refuse to let myself fall for the "divide and conquer tactics" the enemy is successfully employing through the Duggars and other groups or individuals and judge the schooling choices of other parents be they public, private, or homeschooling or a combination of the above.

Anonymous said...

What is noteworthy here, is that as Christian parents, seeking to obey, worship, and edify our LORD Jesus, can still choose the educational method that is appropriate for our children. We have the blessings of freedom to choose. There are born again Christians in every venue of education, whether it's public, private, or homeschooling.

Education has been made a tool of the enemy when we choose to place it next to that golden calf as an idol, thus pride and self righteousness become its rotten fruits.

William Sculley said...

God occasionally allows bad things to happen to good people for their spiritual benefit, but only God can know when that happens. The carnal part of me would love some alone time with the guy who wrote that piece of paper out. I know I should repent of that, but child abuse is one of those things I cannot abide.