The ex-IFB pastor wrote this, and while I don't agree with his atheism, I thought,"These Christians claiming God has given them diseases, probably are making more atheists!"
"I’ve often said that our afflictions come from the hand of our all-wise and sovereign God, who loves us and wants what’s best for us. So, although cancer is something new, I am content to receive from God, what ever he deems fit for me. Yes, it’s alarming, but rest assured Ken and I are utterly convinced that God is going to use this to stretch our faith, brighten our hope and strengthen of our witness to others."
In other words, God gave Tada breast cancer because he loved her and deemed it best for her. God gave her cancer so that she and her husband would have more faith and be a stronger witness to others.
Tada’s God is best described as a know-it-all deity who afflicts humans with sickness, disease, suffering, and death because he loves them and wants to increase their faith in him. He then wants them to use the afflictions he gave them to tell others what a wonderful God he is.
Crazy, isn’t it? I doubt if Sigmund Freud could even figure this out.
The Christian interpretation of the Bible presents God as a father and the Christian as a child. Good fathers love, protect, and nurture their children. They don’t beat them, abuse them, or afflict them with suffering. Every right-minded human being knows what qualities make for a good father. We also know what qualities make for a bad father.
A father who has the power to heal and doesn’t is a bad father. A father who causes suffering, sickness, and disease when he could do otherwise is a bad father. A father who afflicts his child with breast cancer is a bad father. A father who gives his child breast cancer so she can tell everyone what a wonderful father he is, is a bad father. From my seat in the pew, this God-the-father, as presented by modern Christianity, is a bad father.
Tada’s argument for a breast cancer-giving God is one of the reasons I left Christianity. I could no longer believe in a loving God that willingly afflicts and kills his children because he has determined that it is best for them. This God demands the Christian bear whatever affliction he brings upon them, and in true narcissistic fashion also demands that they love him while he is afflicting them. I want nothing to do with such a capricious, vindictive, warped God.
Disease, sickness, suffering, and death are all around us. If God could do something about these things and doesn’t, what are we to make of such a God? What are we to make of a God who is seemingly involved in the intimate details of life, yet when things really matter is absent without leave (AWOL)?
One of my health problems is so bad, I once literally smelled my own flesh rotting, it was an infection I almost died of in my thirties. I am sick now and barely staying out of the hospital writing this while in bed. Please pray for me. I had to work through the issues of suffering for faith long ago. This doesn't mean I don't ever go, "Why God why?" but atheism is not the solution either. Many do not realize the nature of this world we are in. This is one evil place, but blaming God for the evil here, is a path down confusion highway.
I have to admit, that Tada writing that bothered me as much as Bruce Gerenscer. However, Death and illness are not products from God but the result of a natural fallen earth, and sin and evil here. More and more I see Christians in the church system saying God has sent them "beautiful trials", this bothers me. One lady called her pain and suffering "beautiful trials" directly to me and this gave me a sick feeling inside. It gave me flash-backs to Roman Catholicism where "suffering in itself was a good". Some of my long time readers will remember when I took Mother Teresa to task for advancing those beliefs.
I'm not so sure people like that have faced the worse poverty or a falling apart body can bring. I understand people learning or being changed via troubles--the biblical "refining by fire", but to say God has sent them evil, is false theology. Many people do suffer hideously in this world, and maybe someone could say God is "allowing" it to happen like what happened to Job but to be the instigator of it, no way. God is not the author of evil.
When Bruce G writes: " Tada’s argument for a breast cancer-giving God is one of the reasons I left Christianity. I could no longer believe in a loving God that willingly afflicts and kills his children because he has determined that it is best for them.
I can't believe in that God either and don't.
People have to get right in their mind Who God is. I fear that many see "God" like an abusive parent, just ready to beat us all up and send us all cancer, and laugh at our misery. Sorry the God, that is Love in the Bible isn't sending anyone cancer, nor cheering for death [remember that gift of eternal life?]this has to do with a natural world where everything falls apart. This place became a cesspit though not hell itself basically when sin and death came in. Human idealism being what it is, it denies the realities of this world.
Hey I know this world is evil. I have seen bad stuff but many people on this earth have suffered far worse. I think even those women calling their trials "beautiful" are doing whistling by the graveyard stuff, not realizing the depths of decay and despair this world can bring. These atheists complaining about Christians saying God sent them cancer, have a point. Their outrage has a positive moral edge to it in that they hate to see other human beings suffer and their consciences are telling them suffering in this world is horrific but what does their philosophy promise but death and rotting in a grave? It is a dead end to the suffering. A waste. No hope. Die and rot, and you rejoin the earth and your mind becomes mush and goop within a coffin. If they think God is so "cruel", how "cruel" is that fate? Of course we must warn them of the reality of hell, but their beliefs hold no promises either.
Some of the more fortunate atheists who had children may see themselves living through them, but many don't have children in this world. I almost died as an atheist too, that time of asthma, and I had the edge of terror believing I would no longer exist. Their atheism is a dead end too. Sadly the "Christians" who believe God wants to torture and beat them in this world are not helping out the rest of us trying to get the gospel out there. I've had some strange thoughts about how the authoritarianism and other bad attributes of Dominionism and false fundamentalist churches has added to this problem too. These are things I'm pondering. The Armageddon lovers seem to have a "God" they can't wait to punch out the entire world. Do MEAN CHRISTIANS have a MEAN "GOD"?