Friday, June 24, 2016

Wake Up!

They are snoozing away...and it's getting worse too. I pray more wake up!

"Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution."- 2 Timothy 3:12 KJV

"If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you."- John 15:18 KJV

"We are troubled on every side, yet not distressed; we are perplexed, but not in despair; Persecuted, but not forsaken; cast down, but not destroyed; Always bearing about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our body."- 2 Corinthians 4:8-10 KJV


Anonymous said...

oh man - I'm in the middle of a family vacation/reunion with many people (in laws) who all consider themselves Christians but have blank looks when I reference letting the Holy Spirit influence our life decisions...the spiritual kinship is not there; I am afraid it's getting more and more like this every day

Anonymous said...

We all as believers should have a sense of urgency to pray. God's Holy Spirit should be stirring our hearts with a moaning too great for words. I hear a trumpet sounding so loudly warning believers not to be deceived in this day and hour. We are not to be lovers of pleasure rather we are to be lovers of God. Many are like ships that have drifted out to sea and don't care if they are not anchored to the Lord. The worse part is they believe there is nothing wrong with floating around in dangerous waters. It goes further than this. They can't hear God's Holy Spirit calling them back home, lukewarmness lulls them to sleep. They don't care if grizzly bears are strolling into the camp. It's a sunny day filled with sunshine. There's enough honey to go around, pass the next pot of porridge please. Our real reality is spiritual. We have to walk by faith and not by sight. We have the mind of Christ and need to be listening intently when His Holy Spirit is speaking to us. All these distractions are a way of detouring us so we do slumber through all the deception. We are sheep, yes...but sheep belonging to our Shepherd and we are not to follow the voice of another.

Anonymous said...

Our whole purpose is to witness, to be a witness and operate in the gifts God has given us through His Spirit for His glory. We are one body in Christ. Because we don't really know many Christians that want to pray or gather together apart from a false teacher in a church building, we have not experienced this except in very rare occasions.

Anonymous said...

Christians are deceived. Watched a women's ministry in a large church. Her hands were flashing the horns so many times. The other women's ministry leader did the same. Here are Christian women thinking these teachers are for real and they are luciferians. Their content of teaching was so shallow and meaningless. God's Holy Spirit is our teacher but believers put their trust in man and in this case women. Sometimes we may feel left out because we have not joined the party of deception, but knowing all this we are grateful to God for His deliverance.

Anonymous said...

We are living in a time of the falling away - people who claim to be Christians but are not true believers. They have infiltrated the Church and filled it with leaven.
God has a remnant, not a whole host. The gate is narrow but most are trying to make it wide and the Bible says the wide road reads to destruction.They are content in their slumber.

The remnant will be scorned by the fake church and ridiculed. That is the cost of following the truth.

Bible Believer said...

Sorry first anon, I know it gets tough. I feel like an outliner in the wilderness and lately have been told I am wicked for not going to church. Since some of the betrayals [some real world costs of this blog that have been intense] and other happenings I have had a lot to think about, and the church world to me appears darker and even more poisonous even though I know "nice" people who go to church.

The deception is growing deeper. I am in my own spiritual and other warfare that has been difficult. One thing be very careful, because the pressures upon Christians is growing, they are taking the churches into new levels of deceit. Many of us sit outside growing disgusted. The bad behavior of all the false churches is marking all Christians too to the non-believer.

I don't agree with the person who posted that it is wrong for Christians to call out the churches in front of non-believers. I'll call them out. I am facing this, I tell them yes the church system is rot, now listen to what Jesus said. The world looks at the churches, the right wing, and are DISGUSTED. Some have consciences that tell them something is wrong. The sleepy heads shut down their consciences to FIT IN, MAKE MONEY, BE SOCIAL, NOT UPSET THE FAMILY etc.

Bible Believer said...

The wolves are showing more overt markings. Don't doubt the hand signals. I saw a hand signal on a website of a discernment ministry I never would imagine I would see it on and it woke me up about that place. Some people may wave hands and do things naturally if they move their hands when they talk, you have to be careful here, but when you see false doctrine and certain looks and you see it, you KNOW. I used to write intense posts on this blog some years ago. I would tell people Luciferians are infiltrating the churches, it's not just some in it for the cash who think being a pastor is an easy job, but people who know what they are doing. Many told me I was nuts and paranoid on a variety of message boards. In those years there wasn't so many videos and people calling stuff out. Of course a lot of those ministries are fake too. Just look at the group around Trump, all big money nmes too.

I agree many are falling away. The growing evil of the Christian right and churches and rest, is being used to make people FALL AWAY. Even on this blog exposing these things, I have to walk the fine line there in warning about it but knowing how their bad behavior is being USED.

Anonymous said...

Many times you see Masonic gestures along with horn hand. There are many gestures Luciferians and Mason's use. Sometimes they make up new ones and then you see a whole lot of them doing the same thing at the same time period. We must worship the Lord in Spirit and Truth. He is going to purify and prune us to reflect His glory as this world grows darker. We want to grow brighter and shine like the stars in the sky.

Anonymous said...

Be encouraged BB,
Jeremiah 15:19-21

19 This is how the Lord responds:

“If you return to me, I will restore you
so you can continue to serve me.
If you speak good words rather than worthless ones,
you will be my spokesman.
You must influence them;
do not let them influence you!
20 They will fight against you like an attacking army,
but I will make you as secure as a fortified wall of bronze.
They will not conquer you,
for I am with you to protect and rescue you.
I, the Lord, have spoken!
21 Yes, I will certainly keep you safe from these wicked men.
I will rescue you from their cruel hands.”

Sue Botchie said...

Dear BB and Friends, women preachers! Just the idea makes me cringe.

Bible Believer said...

Thank you anon, good verse.

Yes we need protection from evil men and prayers to God.

I have faced some local encounters with a wicked person, funny side by side with good people who the Lord has used to help too.

Female pastors mean well but always seem to go into false doctrine and definitely are popular in liberal and other churches. I just warned one [friend of college friends] I know Rick Warren is a wolf, I didn't get much of anywhere.

Anonymous said...

oh wow - this line: "...The sleepy heads shut down their consciences to FIT IN, MAKE MONEY, BE SOCIAL, NOT UPSET THE FAMILY etc...." - THIS says it all!! This is exactly the spirit in the 'church' I (and I know others) feel up against! My stomach is in turmoil before speaking to one person in the family who embodies this attitude very strongly, it's so difficult because people (who call themselves Christians) can find ways to justify this perspective/priorities and then end up making those (like myself) feel like we're just too pious or religious martyrs for rejecting this life approach; it's very frustrating, I know there are Bible verses that speak of not serving God and mammon, etc. but it's hard when others say that those verses don't apply to them, etc. etc. (and who wants to go around telling people that anyway? I mean I'm not perfect so I don't want to be pinning people to the wall)- it's the whole attitude that bothers me and I don't know how to communicate that we need to be different, if those folks don't SEE the difference anywhere (lack of Holy Spirit?), and for non-Christians and Christians, what is valued in life (status, wealth, security, etc) are getting to be more and more the same - it's scary

Bible Believer said...

Thank is what I have seen and faced.

I have been judged as a terrible person for not being in church and it started with the first one I left. They have told me, "Who do you think you are?" You must think you are some sort of SUPER-CHRISTIAN. No way, I am least pious one on the planet. I understand it is very hard to put up with. I sometimes feel like I will be crushed into a grinder between my deforming medical disorders, poverty and the judgments of others. I don't want to go around making people feel bad but they put the pressure on us all to sell out constantly. Where is the integrity? LOL for even thinking of a word like integrity, I have made myself OLD SCHOOL. So sorry you are facing this too. The "Christians" are the same as the world valuing money, security, status. Please pray for me, some wicked people are not leaving me in peace.

Anonymous said...

Everyone must follow how they believe the Lord is leading them and the only One Who has the right to judge is the Lord Jesus Christ. Disenfranchised people are hurting enough and discouraged from bad experiences. Some are in a place where they cannot find a church or even a fellowship of like-minded folks. BB, you can look at this blog as your fellowship. You have not abandoned the fellowship of the saints.

However, I would encourage anyone who finds themselves in a similar situation to pray hard for God to lead them to a local fellowship that is true to the Word and discerning of the times in which we live. There are still little pockets of the remnant where it is safe to be fed and find fellowship. Yes, the Bible gives a blueprint for organized fellowships and we cannot ignore that - deacons and elders and pastors. Yes, they are almost extinct, but don't give up. God has His remnant and He will lead one into fellowship and Bible teaching because He knows we need each other especially in these times. Wait upon the Lord and He will answer. He may put us in a desert for a time, but He will provide manna just as He did for the children of Israel.

Bible Believer said...

I agree if you can find good fellowship do so. There are little pockets out there. I have made my warnings about the IFB churches but surely there are independents and others where they have not been taken over. Thanks for saying this blog is my fellowship. One's chances are better in rural areas but even there be careful and watch out for cults and controllers. I had a negative run in too with someone who was NWO aware etc, who I believe was a trojan in sheep's clothing so be careful and in prayer. With the blog for fellowship, really it's all I have. I see some church people in regular life, but that is not the same thing. They are in the sacramental and the mainstream evangelical world.

Anonymous said...

There is wickedness in the IFB churches for sure if you are referring to the Independent Baptist group. Two pastors, one from Sacramento and one from Tempe, AZ made horrible statements after the Orlando shooting, saying it was a good thing, etc. Steven Anderson is the one. If the Independent Baptist group had any decency they would kick those guys out of their organization.

I have known some Independent Baptist folks who are sweet people, but they should cut out this cancer. It makes all fundamental Christians look bad.

Legalism is a killer and that seems to be a common thread through the Independent Baptist groups.

Anonymous said...

Steve Anderson uses the horn hand. He displays it during his sermons. Don't be deceived.

Anonymous said...

Dear Bible Believer,

It is very difficult to find true good and godly Christian fellowship, even within rural areas. This past Sunday we attended a Covenant church system in a very remote area, expecting to find a Spirit led service. Like usual, within the state owned and operated religious system, the 501c. 3, it was a usual patriotic fest, with the red and white banners decorating the front of the 'sanctuary' behind the pastor/pulpit. We sang "God Bless America" complete with the patriotic words penned from a nationalist who knows not the eternal kingdom of our LORD. And having visited Assembly of god churches during the fourth of July, complete with worshipping the military (all forms of military personnel parading across the stage while we raised our hands to them, applauding and cheering, while the flags marched across the stage with the same idolic reaction, and the singing/worship songs, all of nationalistic/war/patriotic themed words....the whole spectacle was disgusting, and absolutely the antithesis of our LORD Jesus Christ.....the remote rural churches version of patriotism paled in comparison to the Assembly of god megachurch, however, the worshiping of America/nationalism was still there in that small church.

Did Jesus' teaching/preaching and ministry in any way, shape or form, worship an earthly nation? Did he worship the military of His time and tell us born again Christ followers to do the same? Did He indicate that any nation was a Christian nation more so than the rest of the nations? Whom did Jesus say we should obey and follow? And I sit back and weep when I hear so called C'hristians say, "We should have another war because it stimulates the economy."

Bible Believer said...

I encountered too much wickedness among the pastors in the IFB personally. We see the famous ones who all seem to be the worse of the worse like Phil Kidd and Hyles protege's and Steven Anderson. Surely the "system" supports them. I am of the opinion the masonics are behind the scenes of the IFB as well as they got their hands on mny in the SBC. Steven Anderson is always ranting about OT law being applied and talking about violence against endless categories of sinners. He is one scary one not far removed from the Westboro shills. Yes why does the IFB organizations put up with these guys? Sure Anderson is going to some of their conference. I have known nice IFB people and even one pastor I believe to be sincere, but the whole system got more and more troubling. I visited several IFB churches and didn't feel right in any of them. The legalism is extreme and focused on externals. In many ways I never fit in the IFB culture because of my Catholic and UU past, many of the churches were family focused--being childless, and my socioeconomic class. I knew very nice people in my first IFB and learned many things there but I feel I have moved beyond them. That church is closed but I don't think I could ever be in one. Hmm with the horn hand. I am not surprised.

I have given up on finding good and godly Christian fellowship here. The legalists would tire me as much as all the other false churches. I don't have money to give them either. [LOL] I am sorry you found another bad church. I went way out into rural areas even a town 40 miles away to see the patriotic jingoism and Bush-era war on terrorism war mongering still in vogue. I am sure yesterday many churches were plastered in red, white and blue. I left my last church I was attending....because of what you saw. I am housebound a lot from illness but went to church on Memorial Day. The pastor's son praising killing various people in some Middle Eastern country, I think it was Iraq. I was ready to vomit. Mars the "god" of war was being the one worshipped in that place. I wonder if we are being taken back to nationalism with Brexit but I digress. I told someone the working class and poor are tired of seeing their countries reduced to third world status, what else do they think will happen. These pendelum swings date back to WWI.

It's disgusting displays of Dominionism. It's one of the MAIN reasons I can never go back to an IFB. I am sickened by the love of the police state, wars and authoritarianism. They worship the state, they support openly new wars like the one the elites lust for with Iran. No this is not of Jesus Christ at all. He did not elevate one nation above others. I have heard Christians praise more wars. How are memories so short, when it comes to suffering and death in war? Now the Dominionist brainwashed are ready to vote for Trump.