Wednesday, June 22, 2016

Vatican Liturgy Chief Urges Priests to Celebrate Mass Facing East





"For nearly 2,000 years, until the Second Vatican Council, the Church had predominantly worshiped her Lord and Savior at altars oriented to the East because she believed that it was from this direction that He would return in glory. The historical liturgy of Christendom had always been cosmic, and for them this was the direction of heaven. Thus, by facing East Christians—both priest and layman alike—were able to participate in the mystical liturgy of heaven."

http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/news/2016/05/26/vatican-liturgy-chief-urges-priests-to-celebrate-mass-facing-east/

Hmm you think there's a reason they want them to face east? Why should it matter? 

Ratzinger even wrote about this saying it was a long held tradition:

"Five years before he became Benedict XVI, Joseph Ratzinger wrote that, notwithstanding various liturgical innovations, “one thing has remained clear for the whole of Christendom: praying towards the east is a tradition that goes back to the beginning.” As he wrote in The Spirit of the Liturgy:

The common turning toward the east was not a “celebration toward the wall;” it did not mean that the priest “had his back to the people.” . . . For just as the congregation in the synagogue looked together toward Jerusalem, so in the Christian liturgy the congregation looked together “toward the Lord.” . . . They did not close themselves into a circle; they did not gaze at one another; but as the pilgrim People of God they set off for the Oriens, for the Christ who comes to meet us."


And he brought me into the inner court of the Lord's house, and, behold, at the door of the temple of the Lord, between the porch and the altar, were about five and twenty men, with their backs toward the temple of the Lord, and their faces toward the east; and they worshipped the sun toward the east.

Isn't this a clear direction in the Bible NOT to worship facing the east? What do you think?  The sun worship is immense.

 

12 comments:

Anonymous said...

Reminds me of why all of our Presidents from Reagan on have taken their oaths of office facing the obelisk know as the Washington Monument. - Don

Bible Believer said...

Hmm Does the Washington Memorial face East? I believe if they are in front of the reflecting pool, and looking upon the Washington Monument they will be looking east, Congress is to the east as well. Anyone can correct me if I am wrong with this. Yes the presidents from Reagan on have taken their oaths of office facing the obelisk.

Anonymous said...

Until Reagan Presidents took the oath of office on the east side of the Capitol, facing east.

Reagan and subsequent Presidents have faced west, toward the obelisk.

When one stands on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial, as Martin Luther King and others have, one is facing east and toward the obelisk. There is a local charismatic church that conducts an Easter sunrise service on the Lincoln Memorial steps.

Anonymous said...

The way I see this is a continuation of sun worship, east or obelisk, along with bowing the knee to Rome. www.nytimes.com/1984/01/11/world/us-and-vatican-restore-full-ties-after-117-years.html - Don

Anonymous said...

I believe most sanctuaries face east as well.

Bible Believer said...

Yes it follows all the Easter sunrise services too.

It is a continuation of sunworship. Yes they restored the ties with Rome for the Catholic take over. I read in an article how those "know nothings" were protesting the Washington Monument hmmmm

Yes the sanctuaries face east too. :(

Anonymous said...

Reagan was a horned hand president and a mason so not surprised he wanted to join with Rome who are also masonic with their horn hand displays.

Re:facing east
Genesis 2:8 And the Lord God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.

But because of Adam and Eve's sin against God they were banned from the Garden in the East.

Genesis 3:24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.

It seems the heart of man still wants to face east where they ate the forbidden fruit. It would be just like the anti-Christ to come on a cloud or white horse from the East while all those who bowed to the East gaze at their false savior.

Anonymous said...

My thinking is that this has little to do with any direction. If one looks toward the east at sunrise and prays to the Lord praising Him and asking His blessing upon the day is that evil? If one looks to the west at sunset and thanks the Lord for the day and asks for safety for the night, is that prayer more acceptable to the Lord? If one looks to the north or to the south and prays is it better more acceptable?

It seems to me the point of the verse is that the men looked away from the house of God indicating that they wanted to do their own thing and not honor God.

No matter what direction the Roman priest faces to pray is no matter: his prayer is to another spirit, not to the true God and Savior.

The men chose to turn away from the true God and worship the sun. The key here is that they turned away.

Anonymous said...

Version (KJV)
Ezekiel 8-16-18
16 And he brought me into the inner court of the Lord's house, and, behold, at the door of the temple of the Lord, between the porch and the altar, were about five and twenty men, with their backs toward the temple of the Lord, and their faces toward the east; and they worshipped the sun toward the east.

17 Then he said unto me, Hast thou seen this, O son of man? Is it a light thing to the house of Judah that they commit the abominations which they commit here? for they have filled the land with violence, and have returned to provoke me to anger: and, lo, they put the branch to their nose.

18 Therefore will I also deal in fury: mine eye shall not spare, neither will I have pity: and though they cry in mine ears with a loud voice, yet will I not hear them.

Anonymous said...

Anon@ 11:41 am...I do not understand what you are saying. Its sun worship, which is what modern "christianity" is overcome with. So yes it matters, it's idolatry and should make us see the lie.

Anonymous said...

Last Anon who quoted the verses from Ezekiel. The key words here are in verse 16 - WITH THEIR BACKS TOWARD THE TEMPLE OF THE LORD AND THEIR FACES TOWARD THE EAST. They turned AWAY from the temple and worshiping the Lord. It doesn't matter if it is the sun or any other idol which can be food, another person, or anything that takes the place of God in the life of a believer.

Bible Believer said...

Thanks anon for telling me the forbidden fruit was in the east too.

One could ponder the term Eastern religions for many false ones. The Antichrist will come from the east to full them all. They all eagerly await his coming.

I don't think we have to get legalistic. If I pray not knowing what direction I am facing God is not going to be angry if it happens to be east but for people to purposefully make sure their worship faces east means something that isn't good.