Friday, March 25, 2016

Temple of Baal to Come To Times Square

Life Among the Ruins

"NEXT month, the Temple of Baal will come to Times Square. Reproductions of the 50-foot arch that formed the temple’s entrance are to be installed in New York and in London, a tribute to the 2,000-year-old structure that the Islamic State destroyed last year in the Syrian town of Palmyra. The group’s rampage through Palmyra, a city that reached its peak in the second and third century A.D., enraged the world, spurring scholars and conservationists into action. Numerous nongovernmental organizations are now cataloging and mapping damaged cultural heritage sites in the region."

Michael Synder who I don't trust completely, given the constant appearances on Jim Bakker's TV show also reported on this.


Anonymous said...

Probably will place it next to Cleopatra's Needle in NYC. - Don

Anonymous said...

Considering that our modern culture is pretty much a form of Baal worship its no wonder that everyone is up in arms about its destruction.

Bible Believer said...

Yes they can put it next to other symbols of baal including one of the obelisks...

Yeah I noticed they were all outraged about the destruction of the temples of baal.

Anonymous said...

The article you referenced stated "IS regards some of Iraq and Syria's most prominent archeological treasures to be symbolic of idolatry and pre-Muslim thought."
Believers, we are talking the rebels in Syria thought the temple of Baal to be idolatry. Their base ideology is wrong proven by scripture...John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. but what they get right is that baal worship is idolatry. This historical replication will be made from 3D graphics design, possibly a prelude to the image of the beast where the beast will give life to it. Revelation 13:15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
This is Aaron and the Israelites all over again, worshipping the golden calf, reveling in idolatry, but the entrance to Baal's temple will be the golden calf. I wouldn't be surprised if they created a festival honoring the gateway to hell.

William Sculley said...

I might not agree with their opinions, but I will defend the rights of the builders to have and act upon their own opinions. Basic freedom of speech

Anonymous said...

Every thought or ideology we have needs to be identified with God's Holy word. If God's word condemns it, then it is condemned. We have God's Holy Spirit to lead, guide us into all truth. If it does not stand with God's true word, then it is not of God. All born again believers know this and live their life according to God's truth, not by worldly wisdom or actions. We are not of this world, we are citizens of a righteous kingdom that is governed by our only King.

NancyB said...

I read this in an article by The United Jerusalem Foundation Week in Review> This Month Must Read> Global Anti-Semitism> Very interesting

Anonymous said...

Where did global warming or climate change come in? It is worshiping the creation rather than our Creator. Baal was worshiped as a god over rain, wind and clouds. Over population gets under the skin of those who wish to de-populate these "breathing" creatures who contaminate the air. Their thesis consists of taking control of mindless occupants in our society and to restrict their behavior. The temple of Baal already sits in the heart of every unbeliever who has rejected God's free gift of salvation. This replication should be very easy to simulate as it is already known in their idolatrous hearts. It is another reason to celebrate without restraint just as they did in Israel's time. I hope they put this headline- front page and center on every newspaper and magazine...BABYLON RISING! Get your tickets now, abominations free, no charge for revelry.

Bible Believer said...

William trying to support the builders of a Baal temple as a would be defense on the American first amendment is just weird.

It is idolatry. I understand art, but realize they basically have chosen a temple to Satan to put up. The building doesn't look that special among many other millions of ruins. I notice the weird pyramid etchings in the walls of it too.

The bible has endless verses warning of Baal or Satan or Beezleboul....

This was chosen on purpose:
^ "In NT Gk. beelzeboul, beezeboul (Beelzebub in TR and AV) is the prince of the demons (Mt. 12:24, 27; Mk. 3:22; Lk. 11:15, 18f.), identified with Satan (Mt. 12:26; Mk. 3:23, 26; Lk. 11:18).", Bruce, "Baal-Zebub, Beelzebul", Wood, D. R. W., & Marshall, I. H. (1996). New Bible dictionary (3rd ed.) (108).

I agree about the worship of creation. Gaia worship is based on this worship of creation. Funny, this topic comes up in the astro-theology, all the false religions are based on "serving" and "worshipping" the heavens. Those who worship this earth and planet are going down the the same road.

William Sculley said...

RE: Bible Believer:

Here is the text of the First Amendment:

I. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Now let us ask three questions:

1. Is the worship of Baal, however wrong it might be, a religion?
2. Does the authority of the Church to rebuke, punish, and control people end with its members?
3. Is it wrong to use violence, physical force, or the threat of either, which is always implied in the use of legislation, to bring about cooperation with God's laws among those who do not worship God?

The answer to all three questions is "yes".

Christianity is, by definition, a voluntary faith. You choose to follow Christ or you do not. You cannot control other people. You cannot force other people to follow Christ. Of course Baal worship is wrong, but they have the Constitutionally protected right to worship Baal so long as they do not directly and intentionally harm other people.

If a person's only reason for obeying the laws of Christ is fear of earthly punishment, then all they will receive in the end is eternal punishment. The only obedience which results in eternal blessing is the obedience wrought in love. This is why the law of Christ is to Love God and Love your neighbor. The warnings of Scripture are first and foremost for us as Christians. We cannot force a person to become Christian.

So no, it isn't just weird. It's both Constitutionally and even Scripturally sound. You didn't see Josiah going out into Egypt and tearing down their idols. He tore down the idols within Israel. The Church is the new Israel. That is the place wherein we must tear down the idols. I have no control over those who I do not find in my mirror in the morning. And I will not begin to exercise control until I have rid myself of all the many sins which I struggle with every day.

Anonymous said...

Exodus 20:3 You shall have no other gods before me.

Romans 1:20-21 (KJV)
For the invisible things of Him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

I Samuel 17:1-4,45-47 Now the Philistines gathered together their armies to battle, and were gathered together at Shochoh, which belongeth to Judah, and pitched between Shochoh and Azekah, in Ephesdammim. And Saul and the men of Israel were gathered together, and pitched by the valley of Elah, and set the battle in array against the Philistines. And the Philistines stood on a mountain on the one side, and Israel stood on a mountain on the other side: and there was a valley between them. And there went out a champion out of the camp of the Philistines, named Goliath, of Gath, whose height was six cubits and a span.45 Then said David to the Philistine, Thou comest to me with a sword, and with a spear, and with a shield: but I come to thee in the name of the Lord of hosts, the God of the armies of Israel, whom thou hast defied. This day will the Lord deliver thee into mine hand; and I will smite thee, and take thine head from thee; and I will give the carcases of the host of the Philistines this day unto the fowls of the air, and to the wild beasts of the earth; that all the earth may know that there is a God in Israel.

What did David do when the enemy was in the camp? What do we do when the enemy is in our camp? We pray against every wicked and evil thing that rises itself against the Lord. When the anti-christ sits in Jerusalem's throne and tells the world that he is god...are we going to say well you are practicing your religion and you have freedom of speech to blaspheme god. His constitution will be to behead Christians.

William Sculley said...

Yes, Anonymous, we pray against wickedness and sin. However, you will never bring sinners to Christ by chasing them out of the country. That is the very reason that Leviticus includes a law stating that the Israelites ought to treat the strangers among them as if they were their own kind. This is, of course, referring to people who are there peacefully, like Ruth.

And even in the time of the Apostles, the Christians did not go about destroying temples or trying to have the temples torn down. Rather, they went into the temples and debated with the people within them. It has never been the place of the Church to force change on the people through the government. The Church brings about change by first changing the people, and then the government will follow in kind with the people.

I come from the Orthodox Church, as you can probably see from my previous comments either here or in other posts. The Orthodox Church has learned from two attempts to marry the Church with the government that it never works. First, there was the attempt of Justinian to make Christianity a state religion in the Eastern Roman EMpire. Then, when that failed, the Russian government was next in line to attempt this, and that ended with the Bolshevik Revolution, when the Russian government killed all priests and bishops that refused to join with the new Communist government of the USSR. The Roman Catholics also learned that lesson with the imperialistic period of the Roman pontiff, when the Church would enact punishments up to and including the death penalty for things like translating the Scriptures.

The Orthodox Church cut off ties with the government before it became the supreme power like Rome became, but that does not mean the idea had any merits.

If you really want the people building a temple to a false god to come to Christ, then you must become Christ to that person. Until we are so perfect that people see you and immediately think of Christ, you and I have no place to rebuke those outside of the Church.

As Seraphim of Sarov said: Acquire the peace of the Holy Spirit, and many around you will be saved.

Pray that God will root out the weeds of sin in your life and to plant in its place the Tree of Life.

I don't really think this has any real division in any Christian circles that I know of. If we are to believe that God is real and all-powerful, and that we are the "ambassadors" of God on earth, then it is up to us to stop the building of a temple to a false god. Our weapons are not government. They are not physical. We battle each day on the spiritual realm of the soul. First we fight to keep our own soul clean, and then we try to save as many as we can from hellfire through discipleship.

Anonymous said...

Your comment William: "And even in the time of the Apostles, the Christians did not go about destroying temples or trying to have the temples torn down."

Jesus' comment: Matthew 21:12-13 And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the money changers, and the seats of them that sold doves, 13 And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves.

William Sculley said...

RE: Anonymous

That isn't destroying the temple. That is CLEANSING the temple.

Remember Who commanded that temple built. Either the Temple was a holy place, or God commanded that a sinful place be built and is therefore a sinner.

Bible Believer said...

It's always weird to me how Catholics and Orthodox defends the things of Satan.

Christian blogger: They are putting up a temple of Satan in NYC

Christian; "That's horrifying but shows us bible prophecy is true. We need to be awake and aware.

Catholic/Orthdox "They have the freedom to put it there!"

Bible Believer said...

With government and church, Rome now is excessively involved in the things of government. Who do you think is directing the Dominionist movement?

Evanglical churches in Russia now are put under pressure via the marriage of the Orthodox church and the russian government.

You know some would abuse the concept "freedom of religion" to have Satanic sacrifices in the streets, would you defend it then William?

Bible Believer said...

Stop trusting in the gold and the man-made temples William

1 Corinthians 3:16-17King James Version (KJV)

16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?

17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.

William Sculley said...

1. Saying they are free to do that is not saying it isn't horrible and wrong. It means that they have been given free will by God, to do on this earth as they wish. IF they wish to be close to God, then they must follow Him as He detailed, not as modernists wish to change the message or as idolaters try to ignor the message. And yes, I will say frankly that what you preach is not what the Apostles taught. Sorry, but you are just as much a modernist if you accept any of the five Solas as all the others who accept those modernist doctrines. They are innovations created 1500 years after Christ. That includes Sola Scriptura.

2. Freedom of Religion specifically is limited by both law and the precedence of the court to end when it interferes with the freedoms of another person. So, for instance, you have the freedom to believe as you will about marriage and even to practice said belief. However, you do not have the right to impose that belief on someone who is not willing to participate in your belief. In application, this means that a person in, say, Kim Davis's position wanted to exclude herself from participation in homosexual marriage, then the ethical action is to step down from the position, rather than to force her view on homosexuals, who obviously believe marriage is not limited to the Church's rules. The Church and Scripture never gives Christians the right to force others to follow the laws of God. Likewise, a person could not practice human sacrifice because it interferes with the right of the sacrificed to "Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness".

3. God commanded the temple. Therefore, the existence of a building has some importance. As to trusting in the building itself, I don't believe you to be an idiot, but only a complete idiot would think I "trust in the gold and man-made temples". I trust in the God Who is above the church buildings, Who is the Head of the Church and commanded us to gather together with the Church, united as one Body, with one Faith. I'll let others who seem to think they can reject the gathering together of the Saints to explain to God exactly why they directly disobeyed His direct orders. We already know their argument: "Did not I blog in your name? Did not I warn many people of the great evils of the establishment in Your Name? Did not I preach against the evils of trusting in the Church in Your name?"

Likewise, we know Christ's response: DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.

As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord. Choose you this day who you will obey. Your own pain and fear of rejection? Or God's command to gather?

In the end, it doesn't matter how many times I have been hurt by people in the Church. I will still gather together with the people of the Church and sing together with the Angels and the Saints on earth: Holy, Holy, Holy, Lord God of Sabaoth! Heaven and earth are full of Thy glory! Hosanna in the Highest! Blessed is He Who cometh in the name of the Lord! Hosanna in the Highest!