Friday, March 25, 2016

Modern Day Worship of Tammuz

How many churches hold these sunrise services where people stare east at the rising sun? It is blasphemy to equate Jesus Christ's Resurrection with the rising of the sun. Pagans worshiped the sun at Christmas because the sun had "returned" and the days were returning to "light again" and switching over to growing longer instead of shorter. Also the spring equinox remained very important too. This is worshipping the creation instead of the Creator.

(Ezek 8:14-16 KJV)  Then he brought me to the door of the gate of the LORD'S house which was toward the north; and, behold, there sat women weeping for Tammuz. {15} Then said he unto me, Hast thou seen this, O son of man? turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations than these. {16} And he brought me into the inner court of the LORD'S house, and, behold, at the door of the temple of the LORD, between the porch and the altar, were about five and twenty men, with their backs toward the temple of the LORD, and their faces toward the east; and they worshipped the sun toward the east


Anonymous said...

“According to the cult of Ishtar, Tammuz was conceived by a sunbeam, a counterfeit of the Lord Jesus’s virgin birth.”

"[He] who by the Chaldeans was regarded as the great "Seed," was looked upon as the sun incarnate ... The name Tammuz [Tam = to perfect, Muz = fire] has evidently reference to this, for it signifies "to perfect," that is, "to purify" "by fire"; and if Nimrod was, as ... the general voice of antiquity, represent him to have been, the originator of fire-worship, this name very exactly expresses his character in that respect." [23, 24] "Tammuz ... is commonly known among classical writers under the name of Bacchus, that is, 'The Lamented one.' ... [It is] well known, that amid all the abominations that attended [this Lamented one's] orgies, their grand design was professedly 'the purification of souls,' and that from the guilt and defilement of sin. ...

Source: After Easter by John Henry.
Please note NOT an endorsement of any Baptist denomination.


Anonymous said...

Makes me glad there will be a cold rain here Sunday morning. - Don

Scott Wasinski said...

I had known that Easter and Christmas were pagan for years while I was inside the church system. I had decided to accept that it was somehow okay to be silent and "not judge any man in respect of a holiday" and I just kept it to myself and those close to me. Then One day in 2011, the Lord, through His Holy Spirit magnified these exact words from Ezekiel...Dig a hole in the wall, look. turn thee yet I was doing my research I stumbled across some very grievous indictments against the "church" not-for-prophet corporations. It was the beginning of the end. Now, years later, the Lord has been calling me to go into these congregations and spare not to lift up my voice. I truly believe that the Lord's voice is coming from heaven unto those that hear His Holy Spirit "Come out of her my people." I cannot hardly stand to even be in these "services" and to see the people gleefully eating the leaven and the entire show is repulsive to me, so I have to balance my own indignation against lies with a heart of sincere love for the deceived. My biggest problem is I cannot comprehend a "pastor" being ignorant. I look upon them as the wolf that needs to be exposed rather than one that is just deceived. I actually think that it may be possible that they are just trying to cover up a few "small" sins of compromise and maybe they, themselves are deceived, but I speak the truth, I am not afraid to lift my voice and when I do, it is a divided reception. Some people want to hang me and others are edified. Please pray for all of us that are called to enter these houses of ill repute, especially tomorrow. Ishtar's highest day of the year.

Bible Believer said...

Thanks for the quote DKM

Hmm no sunrise services them, yes cold rain can be a blessing.

Scott, that was me even warning even about the holidays on here and going to IFBs, where no one or very few wanted to know. It was very few in my rural church and none in ones I went to later. The pastor I even gave a phamphlet warning about Christmas but his Christmas tree was up the very next year. I tried to tell some in love, about the holidays and failed to get the message across except with one or two all these years. I am glad you are warning others. My patience for the pastors being so "ignorant" has waned. Years ago, I would think "They just don't know" but with the internet, this information is all over the place. I got convicted even just reading scripture and coming across Jer 10, I had not seen any anti-Christmas memes or articles at the time and remember thinking, "That sounds like Christmas trees." I am surprised they invite you in to warn about holidays or is this something you introduce. Some worked steadily to silence me or told me that I was "overreacting" giving me the Catholic excuses for the adopted customs.

cpbookworm said...

Actually, Spring is the equinox. December and June are the Solstice ... right around Christmas, which is likely why that date was picked. Probably still had some pagan celebration around the equinox centered around spring and growing season, but it was not the returning sun of the solstice. If you are going to point out the pagan influences on Christian practice, you should at least make sure you are using the correct pagan practices and beliefs for the given Christian tradition.

Now I tend to agree, the church should be celebrating the death and resurrection on the Passover weekend, which is not for another month this year. I don't know what criteria they used to set the date for easter, but it certainly wasn't the Passover, which is when the event really occurred.

Anonymous said...

BB and others, could you please weigh in on why some of us within the Body of Christ are strongly convicted about these pagan celebrations (Christmas and Easter) while the majority of believers are not at all. In fact, they look down on us for even suggesting this error and that our focus is on the wrong things. It's right there in Scripture. Are we legalists? Why are so many eyes not opened to this truth? This really baffles me. Thanks.

Bible Believer said...

Yes yes, that is more the correct technical terms. I will make sure to write spring equinox. No they have it centered on others days besides the Passover.

I don't get it either anon, I tried telling people, this is one of the most touchy issues, even harder then telling someone, that I have left the church system. They are used to these holidays culturally, very few look deeper. I have met atheists who realize the pagan roots of these holidays and who have said Christians are wrong to celebrate it. Most in the churches are totally clueless and have never even explored the issue. I still feel weird about the pastor, I gave the pamphlets on Christmas too and his Christmas tree went up the next year. This is a tough one isn't it, where everyone calls you the "weirdo" but we can't ignore what we have learned.

Looks like others are flunking astronomy like me...

I'll try and correct that error from now-on. June is the actual solstice, summer solstice. Christmas the sun comes back...[must have been writing quickly that day]

Mike said...

"29 “When the Lord your God cuts off before you the nations which you are going in to dispossess, and you dispossess them and dwell in their land, 30 beware that you are not ensnared [p]to follow them, after they are destroyed before you, and that you do not inquire after their gods, saying, ‘How do these nations serve their gods, that I also may do likewise?’ 31 You shall not behave thus toward the Lord your God, for every abominable act which the Lord hates they have done for their gods; for they even burn their sons and daughters in the fire to their gods.

32 “[q]Whatever I command you, you shall be careful to do; you shall not add to nor take away from it." Deut 12:29-32 This commandment is crystal clear in guiding us in deserning Christmas and Easter festivals.

Anonymous said...

The reason many follow the leading of wolves is plainly said in John 10:4=5
4 And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice.

5 And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers.

Why do they follow strangers? It is because they do not know the voice of their true Shepherd. Those who are truly His bride He will purify to make them ready. This purification will be the refiner's fire to make them as gold. Those who have been in rebellion will experience our Master Potter's hands until they are a bride adorned in white.

Anonymous said...

I think I am beginning to understand why so many professing Christians are blinded to the pagan celebration of Christmas and Easter. They love their "traditions."

Eph. 4:18, "Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their hearts."

Psalm 81:12, "So I gave them up unto their own hearts lust: and they walked in their own counsels."

And we read in Romans 1:24 and 28, Where God also gave them up, and gave them over to their (in this case) "traditions." I read that tradition usually serves merely to perpetuate error.

Col. 2:8, "Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ."

Mark 7:7-9, "HOWBEIT IN VAIN DO THEY WORSHIP ME, TEACHING FOR DOCTRINES THE COMMANDMENTS OF MEN. 8) For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do. 9) and he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition."

It is the pastor of the church who is perpetuating this error! Another reason to "come out of her my people." Is the pastor "ignorant?" No. But he gives his flock what they want...Christmas trees, Easter egg hunts, sunrise service, etc. and this keeps the coffers filled. So God has given them over to their traditions. They are now blinded to this error and their hearts will not receive this truth.

William Sculley said...

The morning is when the Myrrh-bearing Women discovered Christ had risen. And nobody is worshiping the sun. Period. Correlation does not equal causation. Unless you can prove the connection with something more than the circumstantial evidence shown in your posts, you got nothing.

Here are three facts about 99.9% of all Christians:

1. Nobody worships the sun
2. Nobody worships Ishtar
3. They are worshiping the risen Christ.

Heck, my Church is so impatient to celebrate the Resurrection that our Pascha service starts at midnight, and we keep on celebrating the service itself usually until 3 AM.

You can ignore the false correlation. Otherwise, all you do with posts like this is trip up those weak in the faith. I think there was something about millstones connected to that kind of action.

Bible Believer said...

They love their traditions and don't want to give them up. That's true. Some of those pastors have to know but they know it would limit the money in the coffers and the twice a year crowd would be staying home. These holidays are loved by non-Christians too which tells us what we need to know?

No one worships the sun? That statement alone is blatantly false. So is the worship of Ishtar or the goddess [the existence of the Hindu religion proves you wrong on that. The Orthodox church worships a false "christ". Even the midnight services in Catholicism and Orthodox church is based on the witching hour, and the most powerful time for "witchcraft" being at that hour.

William Sculley said...

Re: Bible Believer

No Christian in this earth openly and intentionally worships the sun, and you will find no solid evidence to prove the worship of the sun is occurring on a denomination-wide scale. Your entire "Ishtar" argument is based on coincidence and outright fiction. There isn't a single day of the year that isn't used by one pagan worship feast or another. There isn't a single hour of the day that isn't of some strange significance to some pagan religion. If they chose to worship at 3, you would instead be pointing to Wicca's obsession with 3:33 AM. \

So let's do this: everything that isn't based on a direct official teaching of the churches you are accusing of sun worship gets thrown out. If you did that kind of honest discussion, you would delete the entire post, because there isn't a single use of non-coincidental in the post. Every single piece is either complete fiction or coincidence. The existence of a goddess named Ishtar prior to the Venerable Bede? Nonexistent. That statue is a goddess, but it is not Babylonian. That goddess is Assyrian. She isn't the goddess of the sun, but of fertility and crops. And her image is not found in any Orthodox or Roman Catholic parish. Her name isn't even Ishtar, by the way.

So, the name of the goddess you're claiming is the root of Easter is wrong, the function of the goddess is incorrect, and her image appears in exactly zero Orthodox or Roman Catholic worship services.

So now we come to the date issue. The Orthodox Pascha hasn't even happened yet this year, not coming until May First, well after the supposed feasts would have happened.

Oh, let's move on to the fact that you don't understand Hindu does not represent a whole religion. Hindu is a collection of several thousand different religions, ranging the theistic scale from pantheistic to Monotheistic and even Atheistic.

As to the claim that Orthodox worship a false Christ, we worship the one and the same Christ as the Apostles. We just don't worship Christ as some random person who thinks he or she has rediscovered the Christian Faith more than 2000 years after Christ ascended into the heavens.

Now, unless you can prove by direct quote, linking to transcripts, manuscripts, or speeches to prove it, that Orthodox or Roman Catholics do any of the things you claim they do, coming out of their own mouths on a website they control, then you have no evidence.

PrDtR said...

ReallY ?? No churches that worship the SUN ???

William Sculley said...

Re: PrDtR

Exactly, no churches that WORSHIP THE SUN. You have correlation. Now, do you have confirmation from their official teachings saying "you should worship the sun"? No?

Have you been to one of their services and witnessed them saying anything like "Oh great sun! How wonderful it is that we worship thee, oh Horus the Sun-God"? No?

So what you're saying is that because people happen to use something as an image in the decoration of their buildings, they worship it? Well, that's absolutely hilarious. One wonders what you would think upon entering the Temple! Images of fruit, animal, and man were all over the Tabernacle and Temple. They were prominently displayed. Two huge angels were crafted and put upon the Ark of the Covenant.

So when I say there is no such thing as a church which worships the sun, it is because such a thing does not exist. Just like all of the other laughable lies people make up about those they don't like, instead of discussing their actual flaws, this one is nothing more than a lie.

You want me to show you something that would be legitimate that you could say is wrong with Orthodox Christians? They are ethnocentric. It became such a problem of Orthodox parishes refusing admittance based on ethnicity that the Bishops got together and declared it a heresy to do so and that they would pull all funding and support from any parish that refused someone based on their ethnic background.

Orthodox Christians have a problem with not educating their youth in the doctrine of the Faith, leaving the task to the over-burdened elders and deacons who do not have the time and resources to devote to a task a parent ought to be performing.

Orthodox Christians have a lack of ability to connect their doctrines to the modern mindset, being so stuck in our ways of using old Greek and Russian descriptions that no longer relate to the experiences of modern people. This makes discourse with others difficult at best.

While you're out there picking at a google image search, wasting your time searching for more ways to sow division and confusion, I can point out the real flaws. At least, however, I can be honest about the flaws in my church. The Church isn't a museum for the saints. It is a hospital for the sinner, a place where a man can come in terminally ill with the sickness of sin and leave infused with the Holy Spirit. If whatever you have for your church isn't doing that as the Orthodox Church did for me, then you need a new church.