Monday, January 4, 2016

Bragging About their Jets

How can anyone take these guys seriously? Don't forget Kenneth Copeland is the one the Pope met with. Their pride and assurance of their own importance is beyond belief. Flying with the little people is "getting into a long tube filled with demons". His most honest comment is "We are in show business here." Yes, you sure are.


Anonymous said...

Who knew? God wants for "preachers" to have private jets, to make it easier for them to move around the world and avoid those silly "demons" coming up to them and having the nerve to ask those "preachers" to pray for them.

How horrible it must be to have to be bothered by actual people as a "preacher". How did the gospel ever reach people without private jets? And how did preachers ever accomplish anything without these jets?

Yes they are in show business, they are clowns.

Bible Believer said...

LOL I agree. Yes preachers all are supposed to have private jets supposedly. One seemed to brag about being in a different city every night. Reminded me of the bible verse about "running too and fro". Why not stay home one night? If he has a family it's obvious them and their needs are neglected so he can go SHOW off. I tired even of the local false pastors and their constant bragging about their travel plans. I agree the view of actual people was disgusting. Most people who can afford flying are middle class or above, so how would these two treat poorer people who never have been on an air plane? Yes how did the gospel spread through the world without jet air travel? I agree they are absolute clowns.

Anonymous said...

These preachers better be careful...look what happened to Bishop Tony Palmer, he died in a motorcycle accident. Very strange circumstances and timing.

Anonymous said...

I had a 'prayer chain' leader in my former Baptist church try to 'witness' to me in saying, "Oh, Kenneth Copeland is filled with the holy spirit, for he gets drunk in the spirit and his eyes roll to the back of his head. You should listen to him."

My response, "If he is getting drunk in a spirit, it is not holy and the reason his eyes are rolling to the back of his head, exposing only the whites of his eyes, then he is obviously possessed by demons. I would dare say that Kenneth Copeland is a wolf in sheep's clothing and is outright blaspheming God, the Holy Spirit."

And this vain, narcissistic prayer chain leader, deaconess, church board member, and sunday school teacher (yes, this is a woman of great authority and importance within the Baptist church system), dares to call herself a "spiritual mother" over the rest of us.

Where in the world did this term "spiritual mother" come from, for I have heard this term amongst other Baptist fundamental women? Are these undiscerning women watching too much Trinity Broadcasting Network heresies?

Kenneth Copeland.....a man seeking his own god's (the god of himself) heart.

Bible Believer said...

They are so sociopathic they lack even normal human fear. Normal people would think, "if I fly everyday, my chances of a plane crash are getting very high". They trust in their planes quite a bit don't they.

Bible Believer said...

I think he is demonically possessed too, if weird stuff is happening like the whites of his eyes showing. All that Pentecostal stuff where they get down on the ground and roll around and have their eyes boggled out and roll back and falling backwards is either charlatans having play time or total demonic influence. "Spiritual mother", well the bible says call no man father, and well that would apply to phony "mothers" too. It almost sounds like "goddess" worship sneaking in. A jezebel wannabe like Ellen White. I think they must be watching too much TBN as well. Kenneth Copeland is definitely a given over shark, even his footsie with the Pope is enough to know he is a snake in the grass. It's hard to watch so many who are fooled by these types.

Anonymous said...

Here is a good article on Crapload Dollar; The last paragraph says it all. This reporter just nails it, as did your post. (Galatians 6:7) - Don

Anonymous said...

BB, so sorry to throw this into the mix, but it is we hear Beth Moore is going to have her own program on the TBN lineup as well. And that lineup includes Kenneth Copeland, Joyce Meyers, etc. So now, not only will these loyal followers continue their Beth Moore studies at church, now they can tune in every morning for more of Beth Moore. They just can't get enough of her. I'm telling you, she is cultic and unfortunately, this includes many Baptist pastor's wives who are her biggest fans. So much for discernment. You bet, Kenneth Copeland is possessed. It's always in the eyes (and their facial expressions...the way they smile). Pure evil.

Rachel Cook said...

I'm fairly certain Copeland said "We are in SOUL business" -- although it doesn't lessen the preposterousness of everything else that was said.

Unknown said...

And may I ask all of you who commented, how many souls have you seen saved in your ministry? How many have been fed in your ministry? How many Bibles have you dispersed? How many healings and deliverance have you seen happen as a result of you preaching the gospel? You all have a lot of negative things to say about them and Im sure God approves of this. More division amongst so called believers. We should expect this from unbelievers but in the church? Really? I thought there was one judge on the throne...God seems yo have added a few more. Go read your Bible and pray.

Anonymous said...

To Unknown,

I haven't personally saved any souls. I personally do not keep a salvation belt around my waste to notch every time a person in my presence chooses to accept Jesus as their own personal LORD and Savior. As far as giving Bibles away, I don't keep track of any of that for those Bibles are God's Word, not mine, thankfully. I don't do healings and deliverances or any of that sort of thing because at the end of the day, precious unknown,

The Glory, Praise and Honor belongs only to Jesus, not you, not me or any other human being. It is the LORD who saves souls. It is the LORD who feed His sheep, that is us. It is the LORD who heals and delivers (Jesus has done both for me, not any man or woman). It is the LORD who leads by His Spirit, those who preach the Gospel, not boasting in themselves as we witness on TBN and even in our prideful churches (Yuk!), but boasting in Christ alone. The Apostle Paul (a true apostle by the way), gave us a perfect human example of how we are to conduct ourselves and to whom we should lead people to, and that is Jesus, the Christ.

Read our Bibles, be Bereans, and pray for those who are following the demonically inspired teachings and preachings of the Copelands and others via TBN programming. As Bereans, we are to judge such things as these for our spiritual lives depend on it.

Anonymous said...

Pretty sure Copeland is in the thievery business, making souls feel guilty for not coughing up money for his pseudo Christlike lifestyle. He needs to go out and get a real job, working up and sweat and getting his hands dirty. Wolves love their money.

Anonymous said...

Not everyone that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Matthew 7:21-23

When I was first saved 12 years ago, I watched TBN all the time. I had no discernment at all. I believed their lies, hook..line..and sinker. Thankfully I never sent them any money. Along with watching the wolves who were out make merchandise out of me. I read my Bible constantly. As I read and obeyed the Word of God, I began to grow. His Word fed me. He gave me some discernment also. I started to see that, women are not supposed to preach. So there went half of the TBN lineup. Then I saw Kenneth Copeland arrogantly say that God the Father loves Kenneth Copeland more than he loves Jesus Christ, cause he sent Jesus to the cross for him!!
That is some serious twisting of the scriptures!!! They all claim they are gods.
And they seduce through the hellavision, With fair speeches, those who have itchy ears.
It reminds me of
2 Tim. 3:6-7- For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of truth.

Unknown, if you are supporting the ministries of these devils, I pray you would really look into who they really are, and read a KJV bible, and ask God to give you wisdom.


Bible Believer said...

Unknown, you actually think these snakes are the real deal?

Now that is sad.

Sorry I don't have some mega giant ministry to brag of, as someone above said no notches to make on the wall, to add up the numbers and brag.

Even there YOU and them lose the plot. People are numbers to be added up. Do some quick sinner's prayers, I have 1000 names to be added to the list just like Billy Graham.

Yes God approves of me calling out snakes in the grass especially with the one who is a hellbound harlot lover.

Believers? You think those two believe? Yeah they believe in money!

Yeah these two I'll judge, I have a brain and the Bible that marks them as complete and utter wolves.

Bible Believer said...

Thank you Anon for discussing the Bereans.

These two aren't even SLY deceivers, they are shucksters, making merchandise of people.

Anonymous said...

Amen Bible Believer and another Amen to you, Faith. I came out of, no, ran as fast as I could out of a Baptist church with an Assembly of God trained pastor, where the congregation followed the Kenneth Copeland's, the Joyce Meyers, the Joel Osteens, the John MacArthurs, the Rick Warrens, the Beth Moore's, the Larry Hucks, the Paula Whites, the Benny Hinns, the Todd Bentleys, the Mike Bickle's, the Mike Murdocks, the Sid Roths, the Joseph Princes, the Derek Princes, the Yongi Chos, the Kenneth Hagins, the John Hagees, the Jonathon Cahns, the Lee Gradys and the Charisma Magazine name them, our 501c. 3 followed them. The point of naming all of these men and women is just that, the folks within this religious system pointed me and my family to these people for our doctrines. We were told that we should sit under these preachers' and teachers' studies at church, to sit and listen to their cd's, watch their dvd's, and listen to their programs via TBN or God TV to 'grow' in our faith.

The fruits of all of this is this: not one single person within that religious group who called themselves born again Christians, encouraged me or any other member of my family, to read, study, and meditate upon the Holy Scriptures for ourselves in allowing the Holy Spirit to minister to us. It was always the promotion of this man or that woman that was to be our 'intercessor' so to speak for our faith between our LORD and us, instead of pointing our minds and souls to Jesus, the only meditator we need.

And sadly, those of us who could see the wolves listed above sharpening their teeth and enlarging their pocketbooks, were labeled as 'unteachable, rebellious, and having "Jezebel" spirits' by the pastor (AOG) and his minions (church leaders-elders, deacons and deaconesses, elected church board lords).

It is so incredibly hard to understand at times, how those who faithfully watch these false preachers and teachers, can be so spiritually, emotionally, and verbally abusive to those of us who politely say "oh, no thank-you" to their promotion of such charlatans, all the while saying "yes, LORD Jesus, yes, teach us by the power of the Holy Spirit through your Word."

The programming we see on TBN is a slick religion made up of the most wicked and vile amongst us and God will judge them as He wills on that day.

Anonymous said...

Amen to you to anonymous. So the pastor has his congregation learning from the TV,instead of teaching them himself. He has no work to do, and everyone is being brainwashed by the prosperity false gospel, so that he can just sit back and rake in the money. Wow, I think he may be worse than the TBN crowd! Glad you ran from there.

After being saved, I longed for a church. Not having much decernment, I walked to the nearest church ( I really had a strong desire to be in church ) The reason I walked is because my husband refused to go. Well, the closest church was an off shoot of a mega church. At first they were doing "satellite" sermons. There was a huge screen and the celebrity pastor would preach at the mega church and the little off shoot church would watch him on the screen. Well that was just not working out, I mean you could just tune in at home and watch him on a local station. So they did get a pastor. But of course he had to preach from the same outline. Some women I took a seat by invited me to " cell group"
After going for a while I was being pressured to pay a ton of money to go to a retreat. I had young kids, and told them no, I have to be home with my kids. They told me," well you have to go so you can be a leader" I told them, " I have no desire to be a leader." I guess that was the wrong answer. Cause EVERYONE goes to retreat. Well I didn't. Then the cell leader, or handler, was trying to control my life. She said things like another commentor said, " I'm your 'spiritual mom' And she always talked about experiences, and that she sees Jesus. One evening she said to me with a hiss, " Its not all about the Word!!"
Well, some discernment started to kick in at that time, and all I thought is Flee!! I realized it was a cult. Most "churches" are.
I haven't been to another one. I haven't been able to find one.
I still long to be in a real new testament church. I listen online to Sam Morris,of Old path baptist church. He is the real deal. He is non 501c3 and he does not celebrate holidays. And he is against being a Nicolaitan. Its one of the very few real new testament churches left. I pray that maybe one day my family will be in a real church, but I praise God that there are some real believers on this blog that I can
fellowship with and be encouraged.