I'm not interested in being a Unitarian again!
Sometimes running a blog like this can be hard. I went quiet on the posts, I couldn't keep up! Some beliefs just plain well confused me. One commenter who wrote me that he is leaving this blog, I think he may have confused my silence of the last week for acceptance of these comments when really I was busy living everyday life and hadn't had time to respond in depth.
I believe he is the same commenter who wrote:
Hebrew Roots/Sacred Name, Lordship Salvationism,all kinds of "true names of God "Elohim" instead of Jesus Christ,the King James Bible is Not the Word of God, "Christians" like kayfabe, believing in the Non-Sense propagated on TV and in the world, believing controlled opposition like Kim Davis and Kent Hovind, saying God made mistakes with His Word given in English for the entire world,-the King James Bible AV 1611 (What Spirit of Antichrist NONSENSE!),SDA NONSENSE etc,Quoting the Luciferian "bibles" of Westcott and Hort, etc ,etc.
Only a few commenters are spot on in Truth.
Deceiving and being deceived, those in great error shall wax worse and worse...
The Adversary has done a masterful job!
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
The Truth is as simple as the simplicity found in Christ Jesus, the way the truth and the life.Being saved and sealed with the Holy Spirit, the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of truth and shall lead into ALL truth.
Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.
God is separating the sheep from the goats...there will be many more goats than sheep.....
He was right about the odd beliefs. The churches are a mess. I have seen even weirder stuff then he has mentioned, the people denying the existence of demons, the supposed "Christians" who tell us there is no hell and everyone is saved. Those believing in reincarnation for Christians and various Hebrew Root influenced sects and Sacred Name websites--that have a multitude of ways they spell their names for Jesus. There's so many "J's and "Ys" and "H's" my eyes glaze over. I can't even remember half the spellings.
I don't do a quiz for anyone to comment here. It is anonymous and anyone can come and comment. While this is good for free conversation, it means the blog is open to anyone.
I have to admit I have been disturbed by the odd beliefs cropping up among the commenters. Sometimes I think I'm being astro-turfed by with the weirdest cult beliefs people can come up with. Other times I think, it's just the mess and false teachers out there. This reminds me of the female commenter and another--well they used a female name who admitted to me they did not believe demons were real. Then I had some Hebrews Roots people years ago who told me eating pork would take me to hell and other strange events. This seems to keep happening. Some even appear to be like-minded Christians and then I find out far later they have some really strange beliefs, they happened to not mention for months or years. It can get confusing. It can also be disappointing.
If you don't believe in the trinity, or don't believe demons are real or don't believe hell exists or have some other doctrine, you know I would be shocked and surprised at. Please don't interact with me for years while you keep a foundational dispute with traditional Christianity under your hat. Even there I don't know if this was something new for this particular person. I would have yelled, "Stop don't!". "You are going down Lew White highway or with some other teacher like him!"
I don't think anyone has everything 100% correct. It is impossible for fallible human beings. There are things where one is studying and being led into truth. It may take a new Christian to figure out what is wrong with the Pre-Mil Rapture. They may be fooled by Christian Zionism until they study and learned. However there are some basics I believe a Christian has to adhere to.
Among those are salvation via faith [not works or baptism or church and believing that Jesus Christ is God. [not a subordinate- or lesser "god" or a "Son" who does not hold the same "divinity" and is not "God" in the same way God the Father is]
If I go with the anti-Trinitarians, I may as well go rejoin the Unitarian Universalist church. Where do you think the word UNITARIAN comes from. It is ONE, as opposed to TRINITY. The UU church started as a theistic read "Christian" church that threw out the Trinity and taught that Jesus was a mere "son" of God and within 80 years most were humanists, secularists and New Agers, there is a reason for that. Remember one foundational belief and it all crumbles. A "jesus" who isn't God is just another Siddhartha. For newbies to this blog, I am an ex-Catholic as well as ex-Unitarian Universalist in the years before I was born again.
If Jesus Christ is not fully God, Christianity itself crumbles. I believe Jesus Christ is God, and God, the Father, Holy Spirit and Jesus Christ are one in three. With the weird beliefs out there, one has to get tossed out. They focus on their "favorite" and ignore others. The Oneness Pentecostals focus on "Jesus", while other sects focus on God, the Father. The Unitarians historically focused on God the Father, with Jesus as the "Son" of God. During their theistic phase in history they saw Jesus as "holy" or "specially appointed" and later on in history when I was in there, Jesus had been demoted to just a "moral teacher" with some nice things to say and paired up with other religious figures from other religions.
Those who deny the divinity of Jesus Christ or the full divinity of Christ, are in spiritual trouble. God knows who is born again or not, but since the Holy Spirit tells me Jesus is God, in most cases those who deny the divinity of Jesus Christ or want to demote Him, have to be listening to another spirit. The Jehovah Witnesses, the Unitarians, and other odd branches that don't even make sense to me all seem to gather together in demoting Jesus Christ. Even among the Patriarchialists, some are going into subordinationism. I went kind of silent on the comments, because I am shocked at ones poster's beliefs. We seemed to share many beliefs over the years so I was a bit shock at the his disbelief in the Trinity. Is this something "new"?
With the Trinity, if you let the Catholic church define things for you, sure you can get confused and think the Babylonians founded it. What part of Satan being a mimicker is not understood here? We have to look towards the Bible. There are many other verses that point to Jesus Christ as God, not just the disputed verse. This is one reason many of the Hebrew Root sects and people like Lew White [Fossilized Customs] get their grip on people, claiming paganism. People who have the good motive of seeking to be free of Babylon can be swept up with these false teachers. They have them believing using the name "Jesus" is pagan and other matters. One even wrote in his books, forget which one, that using the word "God" is pagan too. Now my head hurts!
If one verse gets wiped away how can you trust in any scripture or its preservation?
1 John 5:7King James Version (KJV)
7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
This verse makes clear to me Jesus Christ is God.
There are many others.
`1 Peter 1:1 Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ:
John 1:1King James Version (KJV)
31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.
32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?
33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
Is the Trinity Pagan?
God made human beings in His image. Human beings have body, mind and soul. Why couldn't God be three in one--God The Father, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit?