Sunday, September 27, 2015

Kim Davis Receives Dominionist Award



This award is a joke. The true cost of discipleship is not world fame, possible book deals and having your face on the cover of every magazine. I wonder if there is a Christian clerk out there who quit their job and silently disappeared from the scenes. Kim Davis is getting her award here. Why are they both wearing black and red? Vatican colors? She creeped me out like another commenter when she said, "But we are many". Like Legion in the bible? "We are Legion and we are many". The broad path leads to destruction. All these people do is outrage the unbelievers and make a spectacle of themselves making more enemies for Christians rather then preaching the gospel to anyone.

34 comments:

Anonymous said...

Agree, she and those church building leaders LOVE the spotlight. It is all caca as she should have quit, but she wants the money without doing the job. She has her reward. - Don

Anonymous said...

Kim Davis, the member of the "apostolic pentecostal" cult that leads to eternal torment in the lake of fire, the "apostolic pentecostal" cult that was created by satan.

Anonymous said...

I have a bit of a different slant on this. I don't think KD did what she did for any recognition or glory. In fact, she has suffered for her stand, being in jail and receiving hate mail and death threats. There is a cost for standing up for what is right. One has only to read the account in Genesis to know that God is perfectly clear about His creation. KD was elected to this local office prior to the Supreme Court decision. Yes, she could have stepped down, but that was her decision to make and she considered it a right one between her and God.

We can debate her doctrine, but her sincerity is not in question. I don't see anything sinister in her statement "we are many". I realize that the FCR is in the Dominionist camp, but it was only a natural progression for them to recognize KD. Her demeanor throughout has been without hate and rancor and in fact meek.

This is a thorny issue in these trying times and we can expect more of the same.

The "Kingdom Now" and Dominionist people have it wrong. To varying degrees it mixes lies with truth and deludes the unwary. The false modern day "apostles" and "prophets" lead many astray. It is a dangerous movement. Contrary to what Mike Bickle and his 24/7 Prayer Room there is not going to be any great revival in our times according to the Bible. It is our job as Christians to focus on His Word and go about our Father's business, planting seeds and sharing the Gospel. Speaking and standing for the truth in love. How we do that is a personal decision hopefully God-led.


Also, I don't see anything sinister in the wardrobe of the speakers or KD. Sometimes we can read too much into things and I realize at times we don't read enough.

As for KD, I do have compassion for her as I believe her to be sincere. She may be being used by negative forces to ramp up hatred for Christians, but I don't think she is a knowing party to the agenda. As an aside, there are other groups, conservative in nature, who are opposed to the ruling. Also, there are those who claim the name Christian such as Mormons, Catholics and others who are not genuine Christians and are lumped together.

Abigail said...

Wow,you've been a busy girl this week,BB! I get so excited when you put up new info because you have led me to discover and accept such truth in the year or so that I have been reading your blog. I don't comment much but I want to thank you and the other commenters for giving me things to think about and reassurance that I am not alone in this upside down world we live in. I did want to share a little more of my personal life with you in the hopes that it would encourage others whom God has lead closer to Him at the expense of family ties. Both my family and my husband's family have rejected me as a direct consequence of my obedience to Christ.These rejections represent some of the most painful experiences of my life. I am a people-pleaser--I was raised to be one by my angry, critical father and my emotionally manipulative, fake martyr mother. People misinterpreted my people-pleasing tendencies as easy-to-be-controlled tendencies and, for the most part, I am. I generally put my preferences last and I am fine with that. I don't even realize when I am doing it because it comes so naturally to me, so I don't resent being bossed around a bit. Unless it involves disobeying my clear Spirit-given convictions or hurting my children! Then these people realize that I am not able to be pushed around and that enrages them! Incurring the disdain of my inlaws was extremely shocking and painful but that pain is nothing compared to the pain resulting from my own family's rejection. The pain and guilt is magnified by the fact that my family masquerades as Christian. They are all so fake! I have always been disgusted by the contrast between the public perfect family show and the real backstabbing, gossiping, dysfunctional mess that was and is my family. Despite their hypocrisy and selfishness though I love them and want them to love me. But love to them is control. Only God's love is perfect enough to control me (because I daily choose to submit to His control). Humans that demand control of their children's lives and emotions are playing God. When they demand that their control supersedes God's in my life, they really cross the line. Which brings me to the Duggars. I think you are right that they were set up to tap into the power of family worship! I know first hand how hard it is to lose family just for refusing to be controlled by them, whether they be worldly (my inlaws) or churchy (my family). To anyone out there who has been led away from family in order to follow your Shepherd my encouragement is to FOLLOW YOUR SHEPHERD! This path has been hard but so worth it. Their love was never real and it doesn't compare to His love. And,unlike them, He promises to never leave me or forsake me. Don't let your family make you feel guilty for following your convictions. I believe guilt is Satan's twisted version of Holy Spirit conviction. Guilt paralyzes but conviction inspires. Guilt makes us feel hopeless but conviction says Jesus is your Hope. Guilt says "You are a terrible disappointment and look at how you have failed me!" but conviction says "I am right here and we can fix this together!" Follow your Shepherd. Don't expect the goats (my inlaws) or the wolves in sheep's clothing (my family) to understand or to approve. Let them bleat and growl and snarl and stare. Keep your eyes on your Shepherd and never look back!

Abigail said...

BB--I meant to post my comment under your family as idol article. Could you please move it there? Thanks!

Lynn said...

I...find the color coordination more than a little suspect. I believe it has to have been deliberate. Three people, comprising two men and a woman, would just happen to show up wearing the same combination of colors, and only those colors?

Freemasonic, Jesuitical. Right from the playbook. Black, white and red -- these are their colors! And OH the meaning behind them.

Anonymous said...

Exactly Lynn and BB, I thought the same thing and was reminded of when Michelle O came out on the stage following Zero's win last election. She was wearing a black and red dress. She actually reminded me of a black widow spider. And yes, Mark 5:9, "And he asked him, What is thy name? And he answered, saying, My name is Legion: for we are many." Wow! What a set up! And who is the target? Christians. Look how many bit the bait, and so quickly. Down the road, could Kim Davis be tied into all those churches who have filed as a 501c3? They are now accountable to the government.

Anonymous said...

Abigail at 10:53 AM,
Praying for you and your family situation in all humility to the One who knows everything you are going through, Jesus, the Christ. He know suffering and He knows victory over death; so thankful you know Who to turn too in times of distress.

Your comment thread perfectly describes most church assemblies in this country who know not Jesus because they do not care to open up their Bibles and read and study the Scriptures for themselves.

The LORD be with you.

Anonymous said...

Kim Davis meets with the Pope in DC. Interesting if this is true.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2015/09/29/kim-davis-lawyer-says-she-met-pope/73062774/

Anonymous said...

www.usatoday.com/story/news/2015/09/29/kim-davis-lawyer-says-she-met-pope/73062774/ - Don

Anonymous said...

Well the news has come out. Kim Davis and her husband had a private audience with the Pope while in Washington D.C. She was so impressed as to how he "loves Jesus". And they cherish the rosaries that were blessed by the Pope and will give them to her parents who are Roman Catholic. Nice.

Now we will see if there are any evangelicals who have not been deluded by ecumenism. I'm sure there are, but they won't get the spotlight. They are nondescripts. The masses will eat this up like candy and ooh and ahh. Again, it is all about the social issues and NOT sound doctrine. Yes, religious freedom is important, but it does not trump the Word of God.

The whole thing is a devious plot and should sicken every true believe in Jesus Christ, NOT the false counterfeit hanging on the crucifix or residing in the Eucharistic wafer.

Blizzard of Bugs said...

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/09/30/444671535/kim-davis-and-pope-francis-reportedly-had-a-private-meeting-in-dc

Bible Believer said...


I agree Don, the spotlight is what they all desire. She could have quit. She wants the money and more money. Many are selling out for their employment doing Satan's work directly. One thing the money masters want is people putting their jobs first even if it means committing evil for the cash.

I agree about the apostolic Pentecostal cult.

Any teacher who speaks of revival, is false. It's not going to happen and not predicted in the Bible. KD could be sincere but simply manipulated by her handlers. Obviously she has no discernment going to meet the Pope. There is no Holy Spirit direction there in going to meet that demon-filled religious puppet.

I do think the wardrobe is a marker. I know that could be debated. I bought a dress once I thought was more maroon but ended up being a brighter red and black. However I don't have people matching their clothing colors to me. How many men own red shirts and black ties?
Thanks Lynn, especially in context of going to meet the Pope very soon after.

It does remind me of Michelle Obama's black widow spider dress too.

yes it seems she met with the Pope.

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/09/30/us/kim-davis-pope/index.html

More lassoing of the Christian right to accept the Pope. Strange how other news articles spoke of her conversion and leaving the Catholic church but she is so eager to hand those rosaries over to her parents. All the false Christians in the spotlight will pay homage to the Pope. It is a devious plot. Funny how the right supports all that Papal Agenda 21 stuff, they have corralled them into the spot they want them. It does sicken me.

She was preening like the rest of the world over the Pope as he visited America:

"“I'm just a nobody, so it was really humbling to think he would want to meet or know me,” she said."

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/pope-francis-told-kim-davis-courage-article-1.2379335

Anonymous said...

Off topic, but related in a way.
What do you make of all the apostates swarming around Trump this past week? There is a video online of it - sorry, lost the link. Could that be Jan Crouch sans flamboyantly ridiculous wig at the right hand corner of the screen. Reports say she was there. It makes sense. TBN was having their whoopee doo going on in Times Square with false teacher Luis Palau with mobs of people. Could have been a convention of the crazies - including David Jeremiah who is widely accepted by evangelicals.

You put this together with the Kim Davis/Pope meeting in the same time-frame. One can only wonder if some of these false teachers had their private moment with the Pope as well.

BB, you are right on. There will never be a revival like the NAR says - it is not in Scripture, but they don't rely on Scripture alone, but new revelation. The NAR is growing by leaps and bounds and is hand in hand with the political right. What a mess!

Kim Davis may have jumped from the frying pan into the fire with her conversion to Pentecostalism. You may be right BB, she might be manipulated by handlers steering her in the way they want her - I suspect her attorney may be instrumental in that.

As for the wardrobe, it is pretty strange - what would be their purpose? To send a message to others? Discerners may be the only ones to "get" it.

I believe in religious freedom, but the true freedom we have is in Christ, not in what the government provides for us.

Faith Contender said...

Part 1
I saw that item about meeting with the pope on the news yesterday and came to mention it but someone did that already, so good. Wow, and what she said about the meeting, there is a plot there for sure. Times are getting so crazy with all the things going on everywhere and it's leading to the culmination of biblical prophecy at an accelerated rate.

With that said, what I see is ever increasing 'support' for the false shepherd, imposter one, this pope. They will use anything to foster support for him, funnelling it from all directions of Christian culture and this is just one more example. There was the case with Miriam Ibrahimi from Africa that he invited over after being on death row. Make no mistake, this man is evil. He plays it so well though, fooling all the gullible masses like putty in his hands! I keep up on Christian persecution and find it interesting that of all the cases, they always single out that guy Saeed Abadini, he makes 'statements' from the most notorious 'prison,' in Iran, there are campaigns in his honor at congress and to the UN, shirts in his honor, etc. I thought 'why so much focus on this one person'? Well, something like this was in the back of my mind, maybe the pope will come to his 'rescue' and lead all the deceived masses into his arms all the more. Beware not to get swept up in the emotionalism of these events. Just stick to the Word of God. More on that below.

Faith Contender said...

Part 2
With that said, it is important to keep these things in perspective. There IS persecution of Christians all over the world and it is real, not fake. Some bloggers paint this false picture and put the word like this 'persecution' as if it is not really happening, but it is, both here in the US and all over the world. The bible says that it will be the case, so let those who disagree argue with God's Word. (There is also a lot of confusion, calling this pope 'fake' as a false prophet or such, but do they really know if he is 'fake'? Usually the pretribbers, but long story there. Then, they always make the same error thinking that the false prophet rises before the antichrist, but in Rev. it is the antichrist who rises first, then the false prophet who later promotes him. It's right there in black and white but they just don't see it.) Anyway... I don't know every color code behind every sinister secret society, we can't know it all. Nor do we need to. But what we do need to know about persecution of Christians is below:
1. It is REAL. It will get worse. Jesus said so in the bible.
2. When it happens to us, we need to confess and not deny our faith in Jesus. (Matthew 10; 32-33).
3. We cannot 'go with the flow' to preserve our lives or whatever. We cannot compromise with sin or false doctrine. We cannot issue gay marriage licenses, period, or bake their cakes, as that is an endorsement. We cannot admire the leaders of false religions like the pope, no matter what. That is denying our Christian faith in word or deed or both.
4. I take a stand for righteousness and that is not 'dominionism.' Of course the world is going to hell in a handbasket. But that does not mean I keep silent in the face of evil. That should also be obvious to any true believer in Jesus. So when all this came out I publicly stood against persecuting anyone for taking a stand for righteousness. I don't need to know everything about them. I am not endorsing them, their doctrine, or their whole wardrobe. I am standing for righteousness, and with the Word of God. I am not 'uniting with them for a good cause.' I am making my stand on the issue known and that is it. At first KD seemed sincere and I did side with her in her stand. As it progressed I did wonder about why she didn't quit, but thought maybe there is something more going on than what I am aware of (since that is how life is, no one knows it all, amazing...!). She may have taken some oath to not quit, who knows. But now it has really taken a turn for Rome and we must warn against that.
5. This whole thing may also be a test to see if society is ripe for persecution of Christians (like with Jews in nazi Germany). One blogger put it like 'testing the sleeping giant,' if they ridicule Christians, and no one complains, and they discriminate, and no one complains, and then they persecute, and still no one complains, they will only advance and persecute on a broader and broader scale... as with the holocaust. So speaking out against evil is not evil, it is good.
Looks like part 3 is necessary after all...

Faith Contender said...

Part 3
Just a recap on how to proceed in these evil days:

1. If you are persecuted, don't renounce your faith. Confess Jesus in the face of any persecution. Matthew 10; 32-33
2. It is not a sin to escape persecution if you can, Jesus said if they persecute you in one city, flee to the next. Most will not run toward persecution but some are called to more boldness such as missionaries to dangerous regions, but if there is no escape, you cannot deny your faith to preserve yourself (in word or deed), that is key. The bible teaches that and that same verse applies here too.
3. It is good to take a stand for righteousness sake. It is good not to be silent in the face of persecution of others, especially believers. But we cannot unite with false religions at any time.
4. Beware of compromise for 'peace,' in any form. Beware as things leading back to Rome will escalate and it will be tempting for many to just acquiesse and cave in with justifications like 'oh, but it's for a "good" cause,' or 'but, he seems so nice and sincere,' etc.
5. The time is coming to take a stand, the hour of decision is at hand; will you give in to get along, or take the vital stand with Jesus at the risk of it all? Obey God in all things, read the bible, watch and pray. Seek through the love of God to rescue as many as you can with the saving gospel of Christ.
God bless!

Christsfreeservnt said...

I read several news articles today, two of them about "mixed messages." In the article about Pope Francis giving “mixed messages,” the premise was that he had had a private meeting with the now famed Kim Davis, the Kentucky county clerk who refused to give marriage licenses to same-sex couples. The article suggests that the pope was supportive of Mrs. Davis, which the writer took as hypocritical on the part of the pope who has been preaching acceptance, tolerance, non-judgmentalism, etc. Then, the article gets into the subject of “conscientious objection,” which is supposedly what this case is about. The pope apparently stated that it (conscientious objection) is the right of every human. ABC’s Moran (news reporter) asked him if that included government officials, to which the pope evidently responded in the affirmative. That led me to this question, “Does that mean that the government can refuse any services to citizens of the USA based on ‘conscientious objection’ to our religious beliefs?” I believe it does, and that is where this is headed. This scenario with Kim Davis, in other words, was a set-up.

Christsfreeservnt said...

Not sure my comment was received, so here goes again. I read two articles in the news about "mixed messages." In the article about Pope Francis giving “mixed messages,” the premise was that he had had a private meeting with the now famed Kim Davis, the Kentucky county clerk who refused to give marriage licenses to same-sex couples. The article suggests that the pope was supportive of Mrs. Davis, which the writer took as hypocritical on the part of the pope who has been preaching acceptance, tolerance, non-judgmentalism, etc. Then, the article gets into the subject of “conscientious objection,” which is supposedly what this case is about. The pope apparently stated that it (conscientious objection) is the right of every human. ABC’s Moran (news reporter) asked him if that included government officials, to which the pope evidently responded in the affirmative. That led me to this question, “Does that mean that the government can refuse any services to citizens of the USA based on ‘conscientious objection’ to our religious beliefs?” I believe it does, and that is where this is headed. In other words, this scenario with Kim Davis was a set-up.

Christsfreeservnt said...

Bible Believer said: “Any teacher who speaks of revival, is false. It's not going to happen and not predicted in the Bible.”

BB, If you are speaking of a pre-judgment revival, I would agree, but if you are saying you don’t believe the church (the body of Christ) will be revived (awakened, renewed and restored) through judgment, then I would have to disagree, and on biblical grounds.

God “disciplines us for our good, so that we may share His holiness. All discipline for the moment seems not to be joyful, but sorrowful; yet to those who have been trained by it, afterwards it yields the peaceful fruit of righteousness” (See Heb. 12:3-11). This discipline is described here as a scourging (afflicting; devastating; chastisement) and rebuking (to prove wrong), which is painful, but it is for our good so that we may share his holiness. To be holy means to be unlike (different; set apart from) the world because we are becoming like Jesus.

So, the implication is that through divine discipline (affliction and rebuke) we are being made holy, and we are being transformed into the image of Christ. After the discipline, for those of us having been trained by it, it yields the peaceful fruit of righteousness (God’s judicial approval). There is a positive result which takes place in our lives when we are disciplined, if we respond properly to the discipline, and it means that change takes place in our lives. This rebuke and affliction resulted in strengthening us and in revitalizing us in our walks of faith, which would indicate that we repented of any wrong doing, and we turned to respond to our Lord in renewed obedience and surrender to his will. This is revival.

As recorded in Revelation 2-3 Jesus spoke to his church as a whole, for all generations, I believe. Some of his church he had only positive to say about them, and thus he wrote to encourage them and to strengthen them in their faith. The majority of the church he had some positive and encouraging words to say about them, but he had much rebuke for them, as well. He confronted them with their sins of idolatry and spiritual adultery, and he called them to repentance. If they did not repent, he would bring judgment upon them.

One part of the church he had no positive words for whatsoever. Some people believe that one (Laodicea) speaks of the church in the last days before Christ’s return. I believe they all speak to the church today in one way or another, as the shoe fits. Yet, in all cases, he said something to the effect that to him who overcomes, and then he gave each one some promise of reward for the overcomer. To overcome means to conquer or to triumph over. For those whom he called to repent, they would have to triumph over their sin by the working of the Holy Spirit in their lives as they yielded to his control (rule). This means they would be revived.

To be continued...

Christsfreeservnt said...

Continued on the subject of revival... Then, all the judgments come. In Revelation 18 the saints of God are told to come of Babylon (the world system, even in the institutional church) so that she would not share in the sins and punishment of Babylon. So, evidently there were believers who were part of the world’s system and they needed to come out of it, i.e. to be revived spiritually. And then in Revelation 19:7 it says that the bride (the true church, the saints of God) has made herself ready for the wedding of the Lamb, and that fine linen, bright and clean, was given her to wear, which stands for the righteous acts of the saints. How did she make herself ready? I believe it was through responding to the Lord’s discipline by repenting of any known sin, coming out from the world’s system, and holding fast to the Word of God, and obeying the Lord, which is revival.

All throughout Biblical history whenever God judged his people it was for the purpose to revive, renew and restore them to proper fellowship with him. All throughout the New Testament the church is being confronted with sins, and is being called upon to repent of specific sins and to live like they say they believe. And, a proper understanding of the book of Isaiah prophesies much about Jesus, our Messiah and Savior, his coming to earth, his ministry, his death, our salvation, the spiritual condition of God’s people (the church) at the end of time, God’s judgment on his people (the church) at the end of time, and the result of them forsaking their idols, repenting of their sins, being revived, and the gospel going forth and multitudes of people flocking to Jesus Christ. And, then Jesus coming to get his bride, and him setting up his kingdom reign on the earth at which time he will wipe away our tears, and there will be no more crying, pain, war, etc.

If God did not intend to revive his church through judgment, then there would be no need to call the church to repentance. My hope is that one day, via God’s divine discipline, the church (a remnant) will be revived and that from that revived church the true gospel will go forth and that many people will be saved before our Lord returns. I believe this will be God’s mercy to his church, to take them through these trials in order to purify them and to get them ready for the wedding of the Lamb. Sincerely, Sue Love – cfservant@gmail.com.

Anonymous said...

NEWS FLASH! The Vatican has discounted Kim Davis' meeting with the Pope. They are saying she was one of many and no special meeting was held.

Pray tell what do we make of this? Surely this means she was indeed not a Jesuit plant. It appears that her attorney was trying to manipulate things to bolster her case and it backfired. What a foolish man to try and orchestrate such an alliance. It made her appear foolish, didn't it? Maybe that was the whole plan?

May the LORD help us in these last wicked days to continue to test the spirits and be alert and wise.

Blizzard of Bugs said...

Unless I was going to preach the true gospel to the pope I would never meet with him. Especially in Kim's situation, casual or formal. I don't know what exactly Kim's intentions were to even casually greet the pope. Despite those reasons the fact that she was casually meeting the pope gives me a little insight into who she is or at least those that could be manipulating her. I know somebody personally that is a leader in his country. Previously I regarded him as a strong Christian. I was so wrong. He had a formal meet and greet at the Vatican. Now he is like a choir boy for the pope. Absolutely appalling.

Anonymous said...

Dear Sister Sue,
We are already purified in the eyes of the Lord, washed by the blood of the Lamb. He has forgiven the true believer of sins past, present and future.

That does not mean that He does not chasten His children or allow them to go through trials. Trials always refine us, but we need no further refining or preparation for the Lord's return.

We will be judged at the Bema Seat on our works and our faithfulness but not for our sins. Some will have their works burnt to a crisp and others' works will stand the test and come forth as gold.

As for revival, the Bible does not predict it in the last days of apostasy, that is wide-spread revival. There will always be pockets of revival where the faithful are found or where the true Gospel is still going out. But the NAR view of an endtime revival is not biblical.

May we all learn to discern and be faithful to the truth of God's word and count the cost. It is not easy as we have to go against the flow. These are difficult times for the remnant, no doubt.

Anonymous said...

Too many of us are interpreting last times, yet we will always disagree with each other. We know the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. Jesus Christ. Lets stop for a moment, did the people of Europe during the Plague, the American settlements during the Stamp Acts of King George, the Russians - Spaniards - Prussians - Italians during Napoleon, and the never ending persecutions of the Roman church for the past few hundreds years, the 20 million Caucasians ethnically murdered/cleansed under Stalin ---- all not think they were in the end times?

The American colonists thought the Stamp Act (now called stamp duty) was the Mark of the Beast. Over 200 years ago, yet in every other British colony, stamp duty today is alive and well as a tax.

Pre-trib, post-trib, preterist, amilleniallist - we all have our understandings and each are different within each group.

Look at Israel with it's prophets speaking the true word of God, yet true Israel always fell. Were they stupid people? No. They only lost sight of how God works, of how His prophesies manifest, so they always thought they were immune and that prophesy was not meant for them.

Jeremiah 8:7 Yea, the stork in the heaven knoweth her appointed times; and the turtle and the crane and the swallow observe the time of their coming; but my people know not the judgment of the Lord.

The people of Hosea's time thought they were being blessed by God, yet their destruction was upon them.

We today, like true Biblical Israel have been given everything we need for these times, yet we look and interpret for signs and wonders when true Israel could never do it, how are we different? Right up until the final invasion, Jeremiah warned and prophesied, and was mocked. What's different today? No-one can see the signs, yet we have the prophesy of everything they need to stop what is happening and to return to God. The signs we are given are interpreted differently by everyone.

How we interpret these signs matters not. Whatever we do we will be wrong, but still - the prophesies of God will be fulfilled perfectly, and those who will be saved will be those who follow the commandments of God and who have Salvation through Jesus Christ.

There have been many revivals in many countries over the past many hundreds of years. Who knows if another will occur? Having said that, I too join the camp in saying that I believe this world as it is and the direction it heads in - cannot last very much longer. For me, these must be the end days, yet, I know not the time nor the day nor the hour, and while I look and see no more than 20 years, for God - it may be another 200 or 1,000 years.

Whatever happens, I am not a prophet, I will die, I will stand at Judgement, I will be judged according to God's Laws, and my only hope is in Christ Jesus, everything else - does not matter. Be wise in these dangerous times, pray God for guidance each day.

Steven

Anonymous said...

Yes, there have been many crises throughout history and surely Christians must have thought that the Lord's return was at hand. Many people today did not think the apostasy and the decline of the culture would reach the point we see it today. However, we are seeing an onslaught in every facet of society and the Church and the fake church as never before. It has been waxing worse for a long time. The increase in knowledge through technology makes prophecies never before possible or plausible a reality in our time.

It does matter how we interpret the end times scenario because if we study God's Word we can understand truth from error. There will always be some differences but they will be minor and that does not include preterist teaching which is unbiblical. It is our responsibility as believers to sort it out and also to be alert and aware.

There have been various groups of people who have suffered immensely as pointed out, but the Great Tribulation will be much different - it will be world-wide and certain death for anyone professing Christ. Nothing like that has ever happened but we are seeing the signs pointing to the setup of a system to accomplish that.

The Bible is very clear - there will be no wide scale revival - that is a fallacy of the NAR. We are to discern what is true and what is false. This is a damaging teaching led by counterfeit prophets. They dare call themselves prophets when every prophet in the Bible suffered greatly and we don't see that happening with these fake people.

There are no modern day apostles and prophets - their messages are there for us to read and discern. God's Word is all we need and the guidance of the Holy Spirit.

Another sign of the end is the absolute flood of false teaching and how they have invaded even the fundamental churches. We are to anticipate the coming of our Lord and keep our eyes on Him. We are not to seek after signs and wonders like people are doing with the blood moons and fake miracles. We are seeing this as never before.

Thankfully BB keeps us informed of what is happening and we are to be aware, but not afraid. We cannot bury our heads in the sand. How long He will tarry we cannot know, but we can know that we need to ready and living faithful lives.

Anonymous said...

*DON~ WELL SAID! AMEN! I just cannot believe this! An award? For what? What about SAEED? An American Pastor In a Iranian prison for over three years for preaching the Gospel of CHRIST!
But God..( those words are said many x's in the Bible) BUT GOD...
I love EPH:2-4.
I really do not think he (Saeed) will except an award!
We pray always for his release to once again be back with his Wife and kids.
What a true sacrifice.. Not KD.
http://aclj.org/persecuted-church/pastor-saeeds-latest-heartbreaking-visit-with-his-parents-in-prison

Anonymous said...

Steven, what we believe will determine how we live. It does matter!

Christsfreeservnt said...

I am not familiar with the NAR, so I did look it up. I just recently became aware of the teaching of apostolic succession, and I know that is false, and it is part of this New World Order. From what little I read, it appears to me that the NAR is New World Order, also, and that their idea of revival is definitely not Biblical.

Yet, just because some group twists scripture and turns something Biblical into something wrong does not discredit the teaching that is in scripture concerning a last day awakening, which will come via judgment on this nation. It is all through Isaiah, and I believe it is taught throughout the New Testament, in particular in Revelation. God's purpose in judgment of his people has always been to turn their hearts away from their idols and back to him. That is why we have the letters to the seven churches.

God's pattern always has been and still is to confront his wayward people with their sins of idolatry and spiritual adultery, to warn of judgment if they do not repent, then if repentance does not take place, to bring the judgment, and through judgment to turn the hearts of his people back to him. To say he will not do this in these final days before his return is to deny the word of God and his divine character and will for his church. Our God is a jealous God. He will allow us to go our own way for a time, but he will discipline us, and for the purpose to bring us to our senses and to get us (the church) to return to him.

The Lord Jesus called me 11 years ago to give out this message of his to the church. He called me 9 years ago to daily post on the internet what he teaches me through his word each day, at which time he also teaches me some of the things that are discussed on this site, which led me to this site. He has me confront the church with her sins, call the church to repentance, and warn of judgment, but he always gives a message of hope that if they will return, that he will revive and will restore them. If he did not intend to do this, he would not have written the letters to the seven churches, especially since he told them that he who overcomes, i.e. he who repents of his sin and returns to follow his Lord in obedience, or he who endures persecution, will receive such and such a reward from the Lord.

This is the message the Lord has given me to give out to the church here in America for the past 11 years. As long as he enables me and gives me the breath of life, I will continue preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ and giving his messages to the church, confronting sin, exposing the lies and deceptions (as is done on here), call the people of God who have drifted from their pure devotion to come back to him, and warn of impending judgment, or to tell about judgments which are already taking place, but I will also always give a message of hope, healing and restoration for the repentant, for we serve a merciful God who longs to gather his chicks in his arms, but so many today are not willing, and they have gone the way of the world, instead. To those God is saying "Return to me."

Anonymous said...

I hear the heartfelt cry of Christsfreeservant.
However, if I may point out one thing. God does not judge groups of people, He deals with individuals. Each individual is responsible for his/her own actions. I'm speaking about believers. Our sins are a settled matter. It is our conduct and obedience that comes into play for each believer. When a believer strays, he/she is discipline or chastened individually. We may be impacted by the sins of others, but we are not responsible for them unless we have been instrumental in leading them to sin.

There is a judgment that will be coming on a wicked world. But the believer will not be part of that. We will be at the Bema Seat, giving account of the life we lived in Christ.

I think this is an important point to bring out. People, including the NAR believe that Christians will take dominion over the affairs of government and get things straightened out. The false spiriti of patriotism captures many. The Day of Prayer is a mockery of God's truth with its ecumenism. There is a remnant, and there will not be widespread revival. The Bible says it will be as in the days of Noah and chaos and wickedness will reign. But we are called to faithfulness in the midst of this.

Christsfreeservnt said...

For Our Nation / An Original Work / September 11, 2012

Bombs are bursting. Night is falling.
Jesus Christ is gently calling
You to follow Him in all ways.
Trust Him with your life today.
Make Him your Lord and your Savior.
Turn from your sin. Follow Jesus.
He will forgive you of your sin;
Cleanse your heart, made new within.

Men betraying: Our trust fraying.
On our knees to God we’re praying,
Seeking God to give us answers
That are only found in Him.
God is sovereign over all things.
Nothing from His mind escaping.
He has all things under His command,
And will work all for good.

Jesus Christ is gently calling
You to follow Him in all ways.

Men deceiving: we’re believing
In our Lord, and interceding
For our nation and its people
To obey their God today.
He is our hope for our future.
For our wounds He offers suture.
He is all we need for this life.
Trust Him with your life today.

https://vimeo.com/112351857

Christsfreeservnt said...

Anonymous said: "God's Word is all we need and the guidance of the Holy Spirit." And,

"Thankfully BB keeps us informed of what is happening and we are to be aware, but not afraid."

If God's Word is all you need, and the guidance of the Holy Spirit, then why do you need BB to keep you informed and aware? Why meet with the body of Christ? Why listen to sermons or attend Bible studies? Because God has given us each other to encourage, strengthen, comfort and urge one another on to follow our Lord Jesus in obedience. He has given us the Holy Spirit, and with that he has also given us gifts of the Spirit and roles he intends for us to fill within the body of Christ. Yes, there are abuses of spiritual gifts, and there are forgeries, but just because some people are fake or they misuse their gifts does not mean we should write off spiritual gifts.

Paul, who was an apostle of Jesus Christ, said: “Follow the way of love and eagerly desire spiritual gifts, especially the gift of prophecy.” “But everyone who prophesies speaks to men for their strengthening, encouragement and comfort” (See: 1 Co. 14). We are not to put out the Spirit’s fire. We are not to despise prophesies, but we are to test them. You should test everything BB tells you, too. Primarily you should be seeking the Lord for him to show you what is happening and of what you should be aware, but not be afraid. He will show you what he is doing and what he has planned, and he will show you through his Word and through the witness of the Spirit within you, who will teach you all things. If BB can know and be aware of what is going on, how much greater is God aware and can reveal to you through his Spirit what he is seeing, what he has planned, and what he wants you to know.

Anonymous said...

Chrisfreeservnt, what I meant was that we do not need extra biblical prophecies. Of course we are meant to function as a Body with various gifts - the Bible tells us that.

BB keeps us informed about news and items of interest that pertain to us as Christians. She is simply providing, passing along information of interest especially to the discerning.

The NAR believes that the office of apostle and prophet is for today and they believe their "apostles" and "prophets" impart messages vital to the Church today for instruction which is extra biblical and goes beyond what the Bible says. The Mormons have their "Book of Mormon" in addition to the Bible.

God speaks to us through His Word, the Scriptures through the Holy Spirit. It is sufficient. It is ridiculous to say that God could reveals news articles and events. That is NOT teaching! That is merely informing us.

None of us are to receive divine messages to be delivered to anyone else as from God. We can impart wisdom and counsel to them based on God's Word. But that is not passing along a "divine revelation" that God has given to one person for another. That would put us in the category of modern day "prophet" which is not biblical. That is the error of those who hold to the "5-fold" ministry for today. Apostles are the top office, followed by the prophets and then the rest are down the line in importance and supposed to be instructed by the apostles. This is the error of which I speak. We must be careful that we do not fall into this trap. If someone says that God gave them a prophecy for you, we should run in the opposite direction because it most certainly will not be from God.

Bible Believer said...

Thank you last anon.

I am passing along information. I do not claim to be a prophet.