Saturday, August 22, 2015

John MacArthur Confronted At His Church



MacArthur Accused of Heresy at His Church

"The confrontation took place during this week’s Sunday service whilst the pastor ministered from the pulpit of his home church in Sun Valley (California), a place where he has served for over 45 years.
The ‘prophet’, speaking with a Scottish accent, managed to get up to the church’s platform and before being escorted away by the security team, he accused MacArthur saying: “You have grieved the Holy Spirit of God. Your doctrine of cessationism is an error. He has been grieved, John MacArthur. I’ve been sent here to tell you that. You’re sharpening a sword and they’re cutting each other”.
He continued: “If you don’t believe in prophets; you’re looking at one. God have mercy on your teaching of truth. Your doctrine of cessationism is an error, John MacArthur. It’s an error. I’ve been sent to tell you it’s an error. For the unbeliever: repent of your sins! The Kingdom of heaven is close! You don’t have much time! Jesus Christ is coming back soon! God bless you, people of God”.

Kind of disappointing, since this guy is wrong too. Well I don't quibble cessationism, usually the term is used to defend tongues though which I do not agree. MacArthur has plenty of other false teachings, this guy could have addressed instead.

I think it's rude how they laughed and mocked the man after he was hustled out by the big burly security staff. It shows meanness and arrogance.

15 comments:

Anonymous said...

Bible Believer,

I felt the same way as you concerning this whole situation and I was grieved. The man who claims to be a prophet was very passionate about what he was saying even though he was completely out of line, a loss of personal self control. It was good that he was escorted out of the 501c. 3 church in an organized, safe way. I was glad for that.

What I found totally and completely disturbing, perhaps like you, was the mocking by John MacArthur and the laughing coming from the amused pew sitters. I was deeply saddened by the religious folks' response, including John MacArthur for I thought they were better than that. For all of the talk how humble John MacArthur is (I too was one of his faithful followers for quite some time, reading his books and even buying a "John MacArthur Study Bible with a scrolled "M" printed on every page....that is how vain one gets when having their "own" Bible named after themselves)......I just don't see the humility in this man. Is it a masked, fake, pretend humility on the outside, and yet the pride of life swells up on the inside?

Would not a "senior pastor" desire to humble himself before the presence of our LORD in the midst of his vast following and offer to PRAY for the man who claimed to be a prophet? Why did he not grieve for this other man's soul if he truly represents Jesus? John MacArthur speaks out against false prophets and such on a regular basis and yet I have never heard him praying for these wayward people, not once. I see now by the evidence of this video, he thinks it is all a big joke, funny and enlightening.

This video makes me thankful that our LORD showed me that I was idolizing yet another celebrity preacher who fools people with a false humility and some false teachings. When I heard JM's teachings regarding the mark of the beast, I was done with JM's influence on my life. He may be rewarded with a big mega church, but where is the prayer and care for sinners, just like Jesus?

Faith Contender said...

He is right. Cessationism is false. But John MacArthur has many other false teachings too. Calvinism, which includes the belief in limited atonement; that is contradicted by the bible which says Christ died for the sins of the whole world. These people hate the doctrine of free will with a passion and I can't figure out why. God gave us a choice, He just knew ahead who would choose Him. Why is that so complicated? They really duke it out over that stuff. 1 Cor. 13 states that gifts will cease when that which is perfect has come and it defines that as 'when we are with Him face to face,' so that is the kingdom of heaven folks. But they have twisted it for their purposes as usual. John MacArthur is a false teacher in many ways but has duped SO many discernment camps it's unreal. Don't believe it? Just google and see for yourself, he said it was 'okay' to take the mark of the beast and still be saved! It doesn't get much worse folks! That is a lie from the pit of hell, coming from the mouth of John MacArthur! If you take the mark of the beast you end up in hell, no if's, and's, or but's! But his devotees will defend him to the bitter end, just like they did at that incident. Goats who want their ears tickled will defend their ear tickling wolves at all cost, I've seen it over and over again. Take heed folks!

Bible Believer said...

I agree, I did not see much humility. A commenter told me I needed to pray too for Josh Duggar. I suppose my own anger regarding sex abusers may have taken me over there, so I am not perfect but with MacArthur watching him and the whole room laugh at this guy deeply bothered me. What if the man was outside in front hearing the laughter? Even if someone has a point of disagreement religiously, like for example someone who believes in the Pre-Trib Rapture where is the humility in laughing at them. I think laughing at someone for sincere viewpoints is wrong. I am disturbed at anyone naming a bible after themselves. Thanks other anon. Yes I warned about MacArthur and posted the videos, linked above in the article where he said someone could be saved after taking the mark of the beast. That told me that one is a knowing wolf in sheep's clothing. MacArthur was popular in Calvary Chapel circles. Ugh....

Anonymous said...

Of all the heresies of John MacArthur this man could have taken on - he chose this pile of irrelevant nonsense.

No, he is not a prophet of God. He is equally as deceived as MacArthur.

inneka63 said...

Well I believe it was God working through the prophet. Folks need to stop being religious many times folks were rebuked in the bible for being out of line. The fact is that John MacArthur is teaching false doctrine is the real issue. God does not tolerate erroneous teachings that will lead people astray. Also, the order in service that we see in church today is technically not in line with the bible. It is traditional and manmade. To many of these false teachings are rampant and now is the time for God to rebuke these folks. The prophet was criticized more then the false doctrine that is been taught. God is a God of order but, false doctrine is not in order with God. So who cares about the service being interrupted to correct John MacArthur. The whole service is out of line because of the false doctrine. He has been teaching this false doctrine for decades.

Bible Believer said...

I see the man as deceived too. I hope it was not a scripted "showtime", with a hired actor. If the man was sincere, I wonder why he chose cessationism to debate rather then far more important issues with MacArthur. The one man shows are the errors of the Nicolaitans so the whole service is bunk to begin with. With Cessationism, that is a complex issue. I don't believe in tongues but also don't believe this idea all spiritual warfare is "over". However be cautious of deliverance minstries, there's so many false ones.

Anonymous said...

Boy I am sure glad all the Prophets of the Old Testament had a security team and then Jesus Himself had the 12 as a security team (if you do not know this sarcasm, it is). If John MacArthur were a true man of God he would have walked up to this fellow and put his arm around him and said something like "can we sit and talk about this?". But then again MacArthur has no intention of sharing the spotlight with Jesus.

BB, do not discount tongues as being something that cannot happen again. With the influx of so many foreigners into this country, how do you know that you may be called on by the Holy Spirit to edify or maybe convince someone about Jesus that does not speak our language? This could happen when and where we least expect it.

We all know that the Charismatic movement pretty much ran with confusion when it came to speaking in tongues. But Paul said that he spoke in tongues, but it was when it was needed and someone could interpret it. Read 1Corinthians chapters 12 to 14.

Joel

Anonymous said...

It is strange though that the fellow accusing Mr MacArthur is Scottish in that John's family line is from Scotland. In the early 1400's a Chief by the name of John MacArthur was hanged by then King James the 1st.

Joel

Anonymous said...

There are internal wars within Masonry and other diabolical organizations that attempt to gain more power over the other. It's called the family feud of evil, attacking the other to gain more notoriety, media or blog attention. It could also be the scenario playing out...good guy being J.M. and the bad guy in black. J.M. stands for truth and nothing but the truth and the other guy opposes him vehemently as being wrong. So in the end J.M. has to be the good guy afterall, he had an opponent challenge him with extreme measures. It's called solidification of J.M. and his teachings. Yes, J.M. believes you can receive the mark of the devil and still be saved. But forget about that everyone, this is no big deal. All a diversion so people believe the lies.

cdf said...

I didn't know all this but did know that I didn't trust that man. For one thing, he was on 'Larry King' a few times with no real conflict from anyone on any panel. That tells me all I need to know.

Now I know why I never trusted him. Thanks.

Anonymous said...

there are not 'prophets" any longer. His final word was through His Son. (Hebrews 1) Do you all read your bibles? This blog has become nothing but fallacy and rants about things without scriptural back up. The last time I was here, I posted a verse in Hebrews about Christ learning obedience by what he suffered, in response to BB original post, not one response.
Ridiculous, your no different than the ones in the pulpit.

Bible Believer said...

I don't have time to respond to every comment. I read what you wrote. Do you support MacArthur a teacher who has taught that someone can take the mark of the beast and still be saved?

Anonymous said...

The mark of the beast are those who follow the Anti-Christ. How can one be saved and take the mark of the beast. You can't say, Oops I made a boo boo. Those who take the mark will be sealed to hell. We as believers are sealed by God's Holy Spirit.
Why is John Macarthur introducting the youth to druid festivities if he is a believer?
http://www.watch.pair.com/macarthur-7-druid-festival.html

Bible Believer said...

Just that one statement alone is enough to mark him as a false preacher. You think of people who believe the man and take the mark of the beast and be forever lost. Hmm with the article I got creeped out noticing they all got Joker masks painted on their faces.....:(

Bob Radford said...

Lets look at a few things here. 1.The man referred to himself as a prophet, 2. He therefore delivered a message, which was not a prophecy but a rebuke. 3. He repeated himself, showing not his passion but a lack of discipline in himself so it's not form God but carnal.

Nowhere in the bible did any prophet of God under the unction of the Holy Spirit ever repeat a message from God. Thus says the Lord once!

The Apostle Paul tells us in 1 Corinthians 14
Let the prophets speak two or three, . 32.And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets. 33.For God is not [the author] of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

This man was no doubt sincere but sincerely wrong to conduct himself in the house of the Lord this way. As for Prophets in the Old Testament rebuking kings ect. That should be be set in relation to men and women of the church that have the Holy Spirit that controls us. . We are to have 2 or 3 witnesses if taking an accusation against a pastor.
1 Timothy 5:19 19. Do not entertain an accusation against an elder, except on the testimony of two or three witnesses.