Wednesday, April 29, 2015

Ben Seewald refers to the "divine architect"

I watched the European Honeymoon show on 19 Kids and Counting and there was this one very odd moment where Ben tells Jessa at the 23:00 marker, "Here is my favorite structure built by the divine architect". What an awkward sentence to even refer to a woman as "a structure". Ok,  maybe he meant it innocently or maybe not.  Of course, the masonic "god" [Lucifer] is referred to as the "divine architect" or Great Architect of the Universe.

Did the Duggars Sell Their Souls For Fame?


Luca said...

I think that the Duggars are not christians.

Luca said...

I think that Duggars are manipulated by someone.

Luca said...

In any case i Duggars sosterranno qualche candidato presidenziale?

Luca said...

What do you think of the libertariann party?

Anonymous said...

That blue and white 'balloon' does look suspiciously like a yoni...

Honestly, with these people, are they in on it? Or are they just the duped poster children for the new age Judaeo Christianity religion which is being taught as God's Word in today's wicked churches?

They may be innocent, or they may be planted, either way, the devil does not openly promote the following and teaching of the true Word of God. The devil is now in full force destroying every last vestige of the true Word of God.

Whether they are innocent or duped, in this age - the only reason the devil would allow this show at all, or any other type of promotion of what is being sold these days as Christianity - is for the sole purpose of further deceiving the elect.

If we cannot clearly see the reasoning behind it right now, we will all see it clearly very soon. Or perhaps these symbols and phraseologies will just continue to grow as they slowly usher us all into understanding of their luciferian doctrines.

Bible Believer said...

I don't think they are Christians either. It is possible one of the children has read the bible and been truly saved but then as they grow older, they definitely would be breaking away from the cult and I have not seen evidence for that with the older ones. I also of course ponder the possibilities of "mind control" having been used upon then. The parents are not Christians either and have the appearance of holiness. Yes they have support presidential candidates, they supported the Knights of Malta one, Santorum.

Bible Believer said...

I used to like some aspects of the liberatarian party they are better on civil rights. There was a time I was voting third party candidates to keep away from the two awful parties but now I have moved away from this, I believe the third parties are as bought and sold. Libertariasm was founded by a wicked woman who was a theosophist. They support the bankers and are a prop to the elites, as much as any Republicans and Democrats--support of free trade and social Darwinism--which is from Satan himself. Ron Paul and his son are insiders in my opinion.

Bible Believer said...

My suspicions of mind control grow higher as even the adults follow the parents so unquestioningly. Not one has "rebelled"? That is rare even in far smaller families.

Bible Believer said...

I found myself thinking Ben who isn't the most intellectual personality, he is still pretty young, would he be using words like divine architect in informal conversation?

I used to think the Duggars may just be dupes, fooled by Gothard, but more and more I see the parents as potential insiders who are allowing themselves to be used as pied pipers for the NWO right wing cause. I do not think all the children even adult children would be in on things but would be fooled themselves. Josh seems to be someone for example who seems to desire to please his parents first, so there would be members of the family who would be "in on it" and even some who are simply deceived and misled by the more wicked and sociopathic. However that said, whatever their knowing or unknowingly being duped, they are being USED. We don't even know if Ben was fed a line or not, not knowing what it meant. Not many 19 year olds know very much about freemasonry. I knew absolutely nothing about it when I was 19.

Anonymous said...

BB, I am not trying to highjack your blog, nor am I trying to reprimand you for what you are posting here. What I am trying to do is point everyone to Jesus who reads your blog. Also to understand that all that is going wrong in the world has one thing in common. That is Satan controls the people that are in the NWO, Knights of Columbus, the Templers, whatever other name they go by they are controlled by the devil.

“Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord and in the power of His might. Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places. Ephesians 6:10-12

“And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought with the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought, but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them in heaven any longer. So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. Then I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, "Now salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren, who accused them before our God day and night, has been cast down. And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, and they did not love their lives to the death. Therefore rejoice, O heavens, and you who dwell in them! Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and the sea! For the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, because he knows that he has a short time." Revelation 12:7-12”

As you can see from the verses from Revelation is that even the Heavenly hosts (the Angels) can only conquer Satan through and with the blood of Jesus Christ. Only God has the authority to rebuke and bind the devil. We only are to call on the Savior to cover us with His blood to protect us.

From what I have heard the Duggars speak about is their own lusts and greed. If they are a part of the Dominionist group or the Quiver Full group they are being misled and who is it that that misleads down the wrong path? Only one I can think of is Satan.

“Jesus answered, "My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so that I should not be delivered to the Jews; but now My kingdom is not from here." John 18:36”

continued Joel

Anonymous said...


Jim Bob and Michelle think that they can raise the Christian population by having a whole bunch of kids. The Muslims think the same way and so do the Mormons, as well as Catholics. When you have so many kids that your kids are doing most of the work raising their brothers and sisters, who is doing the training? “Train up a child in the way he should go, And when he is old he will not depart from it. Proverbs 22:6”. God made this commandment to parents.

I do not see Jim Bob and Michelle doing much training. They are too busy trying to make another child. That brings me to another point the way they talk on their program is inappropriate. For instance Jim Bob said it was a lot of fun trying to get Michelle pregnant again, that kind of talk is between the husband and the wife in private, it is reprehensible to make that a public statement where your children can hear it.

Jim Bob’s statement during the latest wedding for their daughter, he said that two families are joining together. That is another lie from Satan. “And He (Jesus) answered and said to them, "Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning 'MADE THEM MALE AND FEMALE,' and said, 'FOR THIS REASON A MAN SHALL LEAVE HIS FATHER AND MOTHER AND BE JOINED TO HIS WIFE, AND THE TWO SHALL BECOME ONE FLESH' ? So then, they are no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate." Matthew 19:4-6”. Jim Bob is trying to exert authority where he has none.

The Dominionist and the Quiver Full bunch are trying to mix the old covenant with Israel with the New Covenant under the blood of Jesus. It will not work. Jesus is speaking here, “No one puts a piece of unshrunk cloth on an old garment; for the patch pulls away from the garment, and the tear is made worse. Nor do they put new wine into old wineskins, or else the wineskins break, the wine is spilled, and the wineskins are ruined. But they put new wine into new wineskins, and both are preserved." Matthew 9:16-17”.

Paul is speaking here to the church in Philippi, “For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ: whose end is destruction, whose god is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame—who set their mind on earthly things. For our citizenship is in heaven, from which we also eagerly wait for the Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, who will transform our lowly body that it may be conformed to His glorious body, according to the working by which He is able even to subdue all things to Himself. Philipians 3:18-21”.

It is like this a man or a woman leaves their former life and is joined to Jesus the Savior and the two become one. Jesus prayed, in John 17:20-23, to the Father before He went to the cross that we would become one in the Father as He and the Father are one. Paul spoke of having ‘the mind of Christ” in 1Corinthians 2:16. If we have the mind of Christ and we are joined to Jesus through repentance and baptism, where do our loyalties lie? We should be with Jesus alone.

I use to say to my friends when I was (a lot) younger referring to going to a function with a young lady, you should stick with the one that brung you. Jesus called us to Him. We should stick to Him.


Anonymous said...

Thank-you Joel for those Scripture verses in confronting the lies of the enemy. Amen to all of the points you addressed.

It is a distinct possibility the "dominionist religious movement" may indeed be the catalyst that ushers in the man of perdition. It seems as though this religious harlot is gaining speed/numbers as the "right" side of conservatism seems to be prowling around like a roaring lion. I was once a blinded member of this "great move of god" and the fruits of it are rotten to the core. A heavy handed pseudo gospel message witnesses to no one as Jesus never came to take "dominion over this earth."

As born again believers and followers of Jesus, the Christ, our citizenship is not of this world.

Always appreciate your comments Joel. Blessings.

Anonymous said...


Anonymous said...

Seriously I understand that I may stir up controversy here but please help me to understand why people here doubt that the Duggars are Christians. I just find this hard to believe.

Before I begin, let me make one thing clear, I am not a Gothardite or someone that follows their lifestyle. I live a lifestyle directly opposite to theirs. I am not even based in America for that matter, but I do follow news and blogs from there.

Now I begin;

I have read two books written by them ( the one from the parents and the one from the older girls) and I have to say that both books put my Christianity to shame. They use a lot of scripture and biblical reference to explain the reasons behind the practical steps that they have taken in life and they appear to truly live and believe in following the word of God. Putting others first and ministering in difficult circumstances (in prisons and to people who live in horrible environments). These people are certainly not naïve hillbillies as people like to believe. These people have been to more places and run up more travel time doing things for Jesus than most of Christendom has had hot dinners. They act the way you would expect a believer in the old times to act susch as reading scripture (ie: forgiving someone who has wronged you) The parents acted this out when they had a bad tenant to deal with who left the place they had rented to him in a bad way and they actually visited this guy in his new rental property with a cake. Now how many people would want to do that to someone who trashed your property out of spite?

All in all, they seem to live their faith in Christ Jesus and not in somebody else. The girls dress modestly and the children don't practice the foolishness of the dating game and enter into a relationship with someone just to 'have fun' and the men are not so emasculated unlike the men (the single men) at my church who are so gelded that it is the women having to approach them. They (duggar men) have a strong work ethic and don't expect the state and the government to pick up the tab for their offspring.

As for Ben's comment about 'divine Architect'.

Now the Seewald family in particular the father and sisters look sinister to me, but I doubt this points to anything of significance - certainly not what people may be thinking subtly. Some people I guess just look a certain way. Back to Ben, as he and Jessa were looking at sculptures and buildings and were perhaps still in lovey dovey mode (as you would expect for newly-weds), I would have thought nothing unusual to play some complement to your beloved based on sculptures and buildings.

The divine architect could easily be a reference to God which is again reasonable to expect seeing that it is HE and nobody else created and designed Jessa and Ben was highlighting that fact. I reckon the vast majority of people would have assumed that was the case.

If the Duggars are involved somehow the NWO boys, I reckon it is more of a case of mind control and they may not be aware of it rather than them being closet Luciferians masquerading as Christians. I mean surely that act would be so hard to maintain for such a long time.

Anonymous said...

Cont: From previous comment as to why the Duggars could not possibly be false Christians.

As for why the children are not breaking away and them sharing a room together, the later was covered in the parent's book where they said that they and asked the boys and girls if each wanted their own room and they each said no they would rather a dormitory setting. it was the children's decision form my understanding and probably how you would expect children raised in a bible believing, God fearing family to behave - be much more into interaction with family members rather than wanting their own private space.

And as for the former, what people tend to forget is that they are NINETEEN CHILDREN with just three of them who have left home and gotten married. The probability is still high for someone to break away with the majority still at home. Yet many of them are quite young and still are under their parents thumb legally so. Therefore it is too early to draw the assumption that none of the children have broken away yet. And to where they would break away too. They are far more safer at home. We are not in Kansas anymore friends. The world is very hostile.

Finally anybody that still says that the Duggars are not Christians is very welcome to visit Europe and attend the churches there. The Duggars would be as far as you get in Europe if they are so called apostates. And more to the fact, if they are not Christians, what exactly are they? the most I would accuse them of being is some type of hybrid Christianity mingled with Judeo practices or perhaps part of a religion inspired by the handmaiden tale book. But I sincerely doubt they are not totally Christians.

Sorry for the lengthly e-mail.


Anonymous said...

I wondered if you saw this yet about Josh Duggar's child molestation allegations?

I don't care for cnn but here is a link for more info

Bible Believer said...

Yes I posted about it here..

Anonymous said...


I know that this is an old post but I just came across this photo here which is food for thought; It is of one of Ben Seewalds sister and her boyfriend.

It made me think about what was said here.

Bible Believer said...

That's creepy, where is that with the giant hand?

I remind concerned about the Duggar children/adult children. Growing suspicions about their mind control. Guess Jinger will never be free now. Not one normally employed adult among them either, even the preacher fiance, the church is very very small, not enough to support a wife and family. All to be controlled by Jim Bob and others.