Saturday, March 28, 2015

Rapture Doctrine


24 comments:

William Sculley said...

Not interested in escapist theology

Anonymous said...

I'm always amused whenever I see these things, which I regard as amusing sci-fi fantasy stories. Also so deeply saddened for those who want to 'hear' but not read and investigate for themselves, and are so deceived.

A good general rule of thumb I use with everything to do with following the narrow path of God The Father and His Son Jesus Christ is whenever all the harlot daughters agree on anything - it's deception. Whenever the harlot daughters and satanic media agree - it's vitally important to the satanic agenda, and may soon be a hate crime to have any other opinion. Whenever the harlot daughters, and the satanic media and the so-called 'christian' politicians all agree together - it is not only vitally important to the satanic agenda, and you may go to jail for opposing the idea, but it WILL HAPPEN - not by the hand of Christ - but by the false miracle of the false christ. I do expect a large group of people will disappear just prior to the great calamity. They will be held up as the "TRUE" children of God, with any true Christians "left behind" being portrayed as "fake" children of God. In reality - this will be to setup the anti-christ religion of those who disappeared for those "left behind" to quickly convert before God destroys them. In reality this will be the tares separating from the wheat - this MUST happen for the Judgements of God to come upon the wicked !! The tares MUST separate themselves FIRST. The people who disappear themselves - will be the wicked, and no they will not be raptured by God - but most people will believe they have been because of all the rapture training they've received.

Except the David Icke nutters - who will say it was the aliens / nephalim hybrid aliens who took them for worldwide peace :( Sad times indeed... almost all are deceived.

Praise God, and praise the accuracy of Scripture. I cannot believe I am alive to see the ending occur of what Adam saw at the beginning.

Anonymous said...

JWs don't believe in a rapture doctrine, not sure if they did in the past?

JWs believe God is going to reign down fire on everyone in the world who is not a JW and kill them all. As this happens the JWs will be laughing and singing because they have a fire-proof shield and God's glory is at hand to save the righteous - only the JWs are righteous and only they can be saved and be fire-proof because only they have the truth of God.

After everyone is dead except the JWs, there will be a 1,000 year earthly reign of Jesus Christ, helped out by his servants - the most faithful 144,000 JWs of all time - the ones who were spiritually guided to partake of the emblems at their memorial - when everyone else rejects the body and blood sacrifice of remembrance of Jesus Christ.

When JWs are out witnessing together, they often joke with each other about who is going to get this house or that house, or that car after armageddon, when only the JWs will be left alive.

In truth, the JWs change their doctrines all the time and call it "new light from God" whenever they contradict themselves or their prophesies don't fulfil. They are just another deception designed to deceive. As everything is now happening so fast, I expect the JWs to quickly follow suit with all the other harlot daughters who now say that 144,000 jews will rule the world as God's faithful servant during this 1,000 year paradise. Thats not a slight against any people group - its just what all the false churches are all teaching now in their brand new religion. JWs will follow suit when they get "new light" as God's only spirit directed organisation on earth. All of it leading to prove and bring support of the new anti-christ religion and its supposed 1,000 year reign of peace on earth.

I may hate their religion, but I do not hate JWs, same with Mormons and many other new age Christian church members etc - almost all members love and want to serve God, but they are truly deceived. I trust in God, and His Will and Prophesies are at hand, and God can NEVER be deceived, even though His children can be led astray by strangers and adversaries.

Bible Believer said...

I'm not either William

Anon, yes it seems like sci-fi fantasy, definitely.
Most do not check these things out. The majority of churches teach pre-trib Rapture including IFBs. One IFB I was in that pastor was more "mid-trib" but an exception to the rule.

That is a good thing you point out, that if all the false preachers agree with it, watch out. Aren't the majority outside the liturgical churches all Pretrib? Why follow LaHaye and the rest of them leading people to perdition?

So I agree, since all the satanic media, harlot daughters and the rest love pre-trib rapture teachings, it's beyond time to ask questions and examine this belief.

Some folks have posted on a faked rapture, where the round-ups could be used as a counterfeit rapture. They definitely could use something like this.

David Icke is definitely an "insider" masonic luciferian used to muddy the waters. I know a non-believer who is now following Icke. She didn't like when I basically told her he was controlled opposition.

I thank God everyday for His Word.

Bible Believer said...

I've read enough WatchTowers to know most read like New Age manuals.

Some of the eschatology has mutated with the JWs

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eschatology_of_Jehovah's_Witnesses

"The selection of 1878 as the year of the rapture of the saints was based on the application of parallel dispensations, which equated the 3½-year period of Christ's ministry with a similar "harvest" period following his parousia. When the rapture failed to occur, Russell admitted they "felt somewhat disappointed", but decided there would be an additional 3½-year period "making the harvest seven years long".[66] Successive issues of The Herald of the Morning identified the autumn of 1881 as the end of the "Harvest" and the likely time for the translation of the Church to heaven.[67][68][69] Russell split from Barbour over doctrinal differences and began publishing Zion's Watch Tower in July 1879."

You are right they change them all the time.

I agree we need to love and witness to all of those in these false religions and cults.

Kayfabe said...

Anon#2

You hit the nail on head in regards to JW's. They are out in force setting up their stands passing out publications such as Awake and the Watchtower, their witnessing efforts have stepped up lately. I think this is because with the fulfillment of the New World Order and the Antichrist near, the Governing Body is having it's followers prepare the people for the coming deception. JW's pride themselves on not being Nationalistic but they are Globalists, their publications reveal that very thing. I have family in this cult and friends too. I recently had to put two men out of our fellowship who were ex JW's but were still holding on too many of their teachings. They were trying secretly bring in those heresies. One of them railed against me because I believe in eternal torment and really showed hatred toward me via text messages.

JW's say they are proclaimers of God's Kingdom but I say they are proclaimers of the New World Order. They lie all the time in their publications. For example they did articles after Hurricane Katrina about rebuilding the roofs of homes of those affected by the disaster. What they didn't publicize, was that they then asked those people that they helped to turn over their insurance money once they got it from the insurance companies. The WTBTS is filthy rich and allegedly has connections with Chase Manhattan and JP Morgan Trust. Yet those that live at Bethel HQ in Brooklyn only get $60.00 a month salary and room and board in very modest accommodations. You also hit the nail on the head about New Light, the call it the "The Light gets Brighter" which allows them to change doctrine when it suits them and is to their benefit. This Light getting Brighter will allow them to visibly join the Great Whore of Babylon and tell their followers that it is okay due to the bright light. Make no mistake they are already part of the Whore of Babylon behind the scenes.

Anonymous said...

The Word of God is VERY clear on the catching away(Harpazo/Rapturo) of the saints.
1 Thessalonians 4:15-18
1 Corinthians 15:51-53
1 Thessalonians Chapter 5
2 Thessalonians 2:1-17
The Word of God is the KJB AV 1611.
Yea let God be true and EVERYMAN a liar.The Blessed Hope/Day of Christ is part of Mysteries that God revealed only to Paul and Paul to the body of Christ.Not to all the worldly, Satanic men that you people Love to Quote.They were revealed to Paul-FIRST.

The NIV,ESB,NASB,NKJB, AMPLIFIED,RSV, all "modern bible"versions are of the god of this world-Satan.

18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

21 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.

None of you "wise" in your own eyes "Christians", ever quote the Word to validate your self deception about the Blessed Hope and the Day of Christ.
This includes all you "persevering til the end" christians.
The Truth, the Word of God, speaks for Itself.
You people speak for yourselves and the lie.
At least as far as the Blessed Hope is concerned.
You are no doubt Lordship Salvationists and deny the Truth.Wanting to show God how worthy you are...in your OWN eyes....

Anonymous said...

The Word of God is VERY clear on the catching away(Harpazo/Rapturo) of the saints.
1 Thessalonians 4:15-18
1 Corinthians 15:51-53
1 Thessalonians Chapter 5
2 Thessalonians 2:1-17
The Word of God is the KJB AV 1611.
Yea let God be true and EVERYMAN a liar.The Blessed Hope/Day of Christ is part of Mysteries that God revealed only to Paul and Paul to the body of Christ.Not to all the worldly, Satanic men that you people Love to Quote.They were revealed to Paul-FIRST.

The NIV,ESB,NASB,NKJB, AMPLIFIED,RSV, all "modern bible"versions are of the god of this world-Satan.

18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

21 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.

None of you "wise" in your own eyes "Christians", ever quote the Word to validate your self deception about the Blessed Hope and the Day of Christ.
This includes all you "persevering til the end" christians.
The Truth, the Word of God, speaks for Itself.
You people speak for yourselves and the lie.
At least as far as the Blessed Hope is concerned.
You are no doubt Lordship Salvationists and deny the Truth.Wanting to show God how worthy you are...in your OWN eyes....

Anonymous said...

BB and others, why do you feel the need to attack pretrib rapture believers? Are we not one body of believers in Christ Jesus? This is very divisive within the body. Romans 16:17, "Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offenses contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them." I do not feel compelled or LED to tear down mid trib or post trib believers. So why the hostility towards us? What's up with that? If you feel such hostility towards us and are convinced that we are in error, then why don't you extend Christian compassion to those of us who embrace the pretrib rapture and pray for us? I for one can always use more prayer.

Anonymous said...

I was b mysticismrought up with pre-trib rapture. My dad was a pastor a product of Dallas Theological seminary over 50 years ago. He passed 20 years ago. But I began reading the Bible for myself, finally, and I W's reading all the passages people point to. I was praying asking God to show me the truth - the rapture not one of the things i was concerned about. I was reading Matthew 24 and Revelation 13 and chapters in John - and it dawned on me there may not be a pre-trib rapture. I hit me like a ton of bricks. My stomach dropped. It didn't add up. I thought of friends who believe pre-trib - some out of Calvert Chapel who taught we will be raptured and then antichrist revealed. And it's not right. It didn't add up. It's nor right to teach people well be raptured before all the bad stuff happens. They should be teaching us how to be strong and endure. Instead the church has rock concerts and comedy skits and tells us God wants us happy and rich with that special someone God will put in your life if you only believe - just believe!! Like church is Disneyland. I want a church that preaches what to do when the bad stuff happens. Encouraging words from God's word on strength and hope. The great delusion is in full force right now. We're being prepped to accept the false Christ that's coming. People won't believe he's the false Christ - they were told they'd be raptured before the false Christ came on the scene!!! They will worship this false Christ easily as all the rock music and false signs and wonders and drunk in the spirit have blinded so many. We are dumbed down. I don't recognize the church.. The church brought in new age/Eastern mysticism and people willingly did yoga practicing Hinduism and following false spirits without a clue or a care. How easy it will be for the man of perdition to slip in unnoticed. The church has said discernment is not necessary - in fact, you are easily shunned - shown hostility - if you speak of discernment! Like sheep to the slaughter the pied piper has called many to worship in a feel-good false Christianity. Are we ready to go through the bad stuff?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 5:29, you are spot on.

The rapture teachings literally take out eyes, hearts, and minds off of Jesus, Who is yet to come. And you are correct in stating that our local churches focus mainly on entertainment/outward expressions of drivel, and not on strengthening and encouraging us in our faith. It is becoming increasingly difficult to worship pastors/leadership, and those who have authority over us when in fact, they live and act just like the rest of the world with their sins kept "hidden" from the rest of us all the while brow beating us over the heads with their false doctrines. Anotherwords, these wolves in sheep's clothing tell us how to live our lives, and yet their own lives and households are in such sinful states, that it becomes apparent just how hypocritical the church is in these days before Jesus' Second Coming. And did not Jesus say, "the love of man will grow cold?"

All of us need to be diligent in reading, studying, and meditating upon God's Word for ourselves to shew theyself approved before our Holy God. We cannot rely on someone else for our faith in Jesus alone for our salvation, for we will all stand individually before our King one day, not corporately. And each one of us will have to give an answer to Jesus one day, not the pastor, not the deacons/deaconesses, not the church board, not the 501c. 3 corporate religious system (government owned religion), not those who choose to manipulate, control/lord over us with their religious affiliations, not the youth group leader, not the Sunday School teacher, not the local church busy body who medals in other's affairs.....no, we WILL stand before our King, of which there will be no pride in us.

I once believed in the "false rapture doctrines" myself, having been led astray by an Assembly of God pastor and a "seeking signs and wonders" church system. Having endured spiritual, emotional and verbal abuse from the pastor and his legion of minions. The fruits of God, the Holy Spirit, are absent from such forceful people and their teachings, especially when it comes to their "pet" doctrines of which the "rapture" is included.

Another "pet" doctrine is "visiting the third heaven" as the Apostle Paul did in the Epistles. When an individual disagrees with these heavenly tourist trips, the teeth sharpen and the claws come out of those within the religious sect that believe in all of these lies.

Perhaps we shall see a day here in America when "the false church" will be the ones doing the persecuting/martyring of the saints who are earnestly contending for the faith in Jesus, the Christ, alone for all authority. For in these days, I personally am more blessed with worship, edification, exhortation, and wonderful fellowship with the saints who have come out of the organized religion than I am within the 501c. 3 system. We can speak of Jesus and His teachings without anger, bitterness, or any form of manipulation nor control. And we can leave such meetings/encounters filled with all of the fruits of the Holy Spirit and love on those who are unloved in this world, sharing the life saving Gospel of Jesus Christ in peace.

And no, I am not a hippy, just a sinner/saint who loves Jesus as my own.

Anonymous said...

BB, I am praying for all you who dismiss our coming Blessed Hope. Wow! What an agenda you have here. I thought I was going to get something (edifying the Body of Christ) out of your blog, but in fact, what you have done is shown your true colors. You, sister, are a very divisive Christian. I will no longer be accessing your blog nor will I recommend it to anyone who "rightly divides the Word."

Anonymous said...

I do not attack any believer in Christ, nor do I seek to divide our brothers and sisters. I do not hold any contempt whatsoever for any person who believes in their hearts and confesses with their mouths that Jesus Christ is our King, through whom is our only hope of salvation and forgiveness for our sins through His sacrifice. Quite the opposite.

My opposition is to deliberate false teachings designed only to deceive the elect so as to condemn us. Deliberate to condemn as many as possible - Matthew 23:13 is not only about deceiving to bring in the NWO, but also to use Balaam's Doctrine to bring us to sin (transgression of Law) through deception about God's Laws.

In likely every so called Christian denomination there are those who fake it and those who are the flock of Christ. All deceived. I do not believe in what the harlot daughters teach in their new religion. Not homosexuality, not rapture, not that we all get our own planets as gods after we die, nor in the extermination of a people (western Europeans)... none of it. And its the deceivers I cannot tolerate, not the people of the flock who are deceived.

The JW commenter got it right, JWs are NWO globalists. Their book (I won't call it a Bible) has always been called the NEW WORLD translation. They have always taught the same as the NWO doctrines in white countries, don't have kids, don't get educated, don't earn money, give everything to the church, universalist religion etc

The main problem for JWs is Rutherford, who undid much of Russell and did indeed give them a lot of truth, which the leaders now have to somehow contend with to try and bring JWs back to Babylonian religious practices such as what we now call christmas, easter, halloween, valentines day, mayday etc, and to bring them back to the UN - whom since Rutherford they have always classified as the Beast of Revelation... but things these too will happen.

I believe there was a new JW doctrine which said to be prepared for new light and understandings - no matter how hard they are to believe, but that they must trust Jehovah is steering them in the right direction...

Anonymous said...

This is what I know about Eschatology... Everybody is wrong about it. We all have different beliefs, Those who are deceived and those who pray for guidance and study for years and have their prayers answered and who continue to grow in understanding. We still all believe differently.

The Laws of God have always been clear and have existed for all time. The Statutes (ordinances) and Judgements and the first Covenant given to Israel at Sinai were also very clear. Everybody knew if they broke any of these, there was no room for manoeuvre.

Yet the Apostles fought heresy every step of the way, and when they passed - the heresies exploded and continue to this day. And this is all allowed by God. Why? Was every Catholic for 1200 years who held no Bible in their hands condemned- with no survivors?

Now this is the right question to be asked and explored.

Obviously, everything leads back to Jesus Christ. That no human ever on the face of this earth has been free from sin, except Him, who bought us back with a price for that sin.

Whats the difference between a catholic, a JW, a mormon who prays to Adam, an adulterer, a thief, a liar, and a devoted lover of God and Christ who gets even the Laws of God or eschatology wrong? Nothing. We're all condemned alike, with our only hope in Christ Jesus.

Eschatology... everything works to the Glory of God, even the deceivers and the righteous both. Perhaps in all of this we are each being shown the dangers, the hope, and many other things which when the day arrives - all work to the Glory of God and His Eternal Plan.

God is allowing all of this, for a reason. And when the day comes, it will all fit together to give the knowledge needed in those last days, at the right time. Trust God, even for everything we don't understand, and everything will be revealed at that last trump. All the why's that we can never comprehend on this earth. Praise be to God our Father, and His Son Jesus Christ our King forever !!

Anonymous said...

With regard to the Ickes, Tsarions, Mullins, Electric Universe, the list goes on... they each give snippets of new truth, just as all the other shills do, and then they go straight for the Bible and Jesus Christ and tear it to pieces with their new alien religion.

Focussing on the aliens / nephalim / gods that they all talk about. This has two purposes.

1) to expose as many people as possible to this old Babylonian religion, its beliefs and its origins, thus educating us all as to what it is so we can never be surprised by it when it arrives in force, and we accept it as normal.

2) this doctrine is for all those people who believed the new religion of evolution from 200 years ago, which is all about denying and then turning away from God, thus condemning us.

For the suckers who got hoodwinked by evolution religion, once the fake rapture occurs and millions disappear - it won't be because some god did it - it was the aliens who were really the nephalim in the Bible and the servants of God - this they will believe in their new church one world religion.

For the Christian Zionists / Judaeo Christians in the harlot churches - it will be God rapturing this true flock of God, and these too will turn away from God and to the religion of those who were "raptured".

Think about this, in all the former Christian nations, of all those who have no concept or relationship with Jesus Christ or the God of the Bible - yet because of media, hollywood, false churches - they all know about it and will know it was God who "raptured" these people, and all of them will be led to the new religion. With God as an alien of course.

Whoever disappears - will be the very deceivers themselves.

For the tares must first separate from the wheat.

Matthew 13:30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together FIRST the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

Tares separated and burnt first, then the wheat is harvested :)

Also read Matthew 24, those who are "taken" are the ones who die, and those "left behind" are those who survive. Not the reverse as the harlot daughters and hollywood teaches... Noah was left behind, everyone else was taken. The true Christians were left behind in 70AD and the deceivers were killed in the greatest bloodbath ever seen on earth. In the Bible, if you are "left behind" you are saved - if you are "taken" - you are dead. Very easy to understand in your King James Bible.

And yes, I do indeed expect a fake attack from Russia on the country that calls itself Israel today. many will die and then the true inheritance of the entire middle east will be given over to this same country as God's eternal promise... all part of "le grande deception" for the harlot and her daughters and everyone else who watched or read "left Behind" and not their Bibles.

Just my thoughts as the puzzle falls into place.

Anonymous said...

Once again,
all you "nay sayers" who deny the Word of God,justify yourselves and your self-delusions...you reject the Word and the grace of God and His salvation(rescue)....by thinking erroneously that you will.."PERSEVERE TIL THE END....in your own self "righteousness". Rejecting the Word of Grace, the Blessed Hope and the Day of Christ in this age of grace.

Bible Believer said...

BB, I am praying for all you who dismiss our coming Blessed Hope. I am low on time today but wanted to put comments up and will be responding tomorrow or later today on here but want to address the person who wrote this:

"Wow! What an agenda you have here. I thought I was going to get something (edifying the Body of Christ) out of your blog, but in fact, what you have done is shown your true colors. You, sister, are a very divisive Christian. I will no longer be accessing your blog nor will I recommend it to anyone who "rightly divides the Word." "

What agenda is that?

Look with the rapture I do not divide over differences in eschatology, I was premill even right after I was born again.

There are things we all need to study and pray for God to show us.

I believe it is okay to explore eschatology, the guy who wrote "everyone is wrong" about it, is right. We are entering looking through a glass darkly territory.

I do believe there WILL be a counterfeit kingdom, of that I am persuaded that scripture is warning us.

I do not understand why some are so adamant to condemn to hell those who are exploring these issues.

I want to make this clear too, I do believe in a literal second coming of Jesus Christ.

Bible Believer said...

"And yes, I do indeed expect a fake attack from Russia on the country that calls itself Israel today. many will die and then the true inheritance of the entire middle east will be given over to this same country as God's eternal promise... all part of "le grande deception" for the harlot and her daughters and everyone else who watched or read "left Behind" and not their Bibles."

It definitely is all being set up.

Bible Believer said...

I've read enough Watchtowers, they definitely push the "new" Utopian world over and over, total globalism and they truly have their own brand of Dominionism.

I read about this dominionist church in China called Eastern Lightening, they have other false teachings but there are many many millennial cults out there, and they are all centered around prepping people for the counterfeit kingdom where almost the entire world becomes one mind with the beast.

Bible Believer said...

You know, I can see pre-trib folks as a fellow Christian, even if I disagree and how they are not deceived. I wonder why some are so adamant about pre-trib they wish to condemn folks to hell over it? If you believe in a millennial kingdom, I hope you will watch out for the counterfeit. Someone asked me if I believed a millennial kingdom came later, no really I believe that is the time of the new heaven and new earth to come down right after Jesus's second coming. If they want to make a scriptural argument go ahead.

Revelation can be complex. I am not the sort to throw someone over the side of the boat and say you're a hell bound heathen for disagreeing with me on aspects of eschatology, what is important is if you are born again and seeking after God's truth, but my purpose in writing the article is to warn of the antichrist kingdom and the set up being down by all the deceivers in this world.

Bible Believer said...

You know, I can see pre-trib folks as a fellow Christian, even if I disagree and how they are not deceived. I wonder why some are so adamant about pre-trib they wish to condemn folks to hell over it? If you believe in a millennial kingdom, I hope you will watch out for the counterfeit. Someone asked me if I believed a millennial kingdom came later, no really I believe that is the time of the new heaven and new earth to come down right after Jesus's second coming. If they want to make a scriptural argument go ahead.

Revelation can be complex. I am not the sort to throw someone over the side of the boat and say you're a hell bound heathen for disagreeing with me on aspects of eschatology, what is important is if you are born again and seeking after God's truth, but my purpose in writing the article is to warn of the antichrist kingdom and the set up being down by all the deceivers in this world.

Bible Believer said...

You know, I can see pre-trib folks as a fellow Christian, even if I disagree and how they are not deceived. I wonder why some are so adamant about pre-trib they wish to condemn folks to hell over it? If you believe in a millennial kingdom, I hope you will watch out for the counterfeit. Someone asked me if I believed a millennial kingdom came later, no really I believe that is the time of the new heaven and new earth to come down right after Jesus's second coming. If they want to make a scriptural argument go ahead.

Revelation can be complex. I am not the sort to throw someone over the side of the boat and say you're a hell bound heathen for disagreeing with me on aspects of eschatology, what is important is if you are born again and seeking after God's truth, but my purpose in writing the article is to warn of the antichrist kingdom and the set up being down by all the deceivers in this world.

Bible Believer said...

Isn't that third heaven stuff prevalent in Pentecostalism?

Didn't Rick Joyner claim to visit heaven?

Maybe I'll post about that one.

William Sculley said...

Anonymous, if the Bible were so clear, why did the realization of this false doctrine come about in the 1800s? Better yet, why is it revealed from the most dubious source ever? The girl who first mentioned it in the 19th century was 14, and she was having surgery, doped up with hallucinogenic narcotics, when she had the vision.

This is the first mention history has of the rapture.

My main complaint against it is that it is cowardly. You trust God, but not enough for Him to preserve His people THROUGH the tribulation?

The prefiguring of the tribulation in the Old Testament is the exodus story. In that story, it isn't until AFTER the judgments that God's church (Israel) is taken out of Egypt. Good preserved Israel from the plagues, and He will preserve His Church from the judgments of the tribulation. It is during that time that all the false churches that left the Church into heresy will fall, leaving the one True Church standing tall.