Wednesday, January 28, 2015

Hal Lindsey and Chuck Missler Skew Bible Prophecy

One sees the false Christian Zionism, with the founding of Israel. A secular nation same as all the others. It is not a Christian nation. It is run by the same Freemasons and the rest who themselves run the other nations. Let's hope those 350 Messianic Jewish fellowships he speaks of, are not deceived by Christian Zionism.

You will notice around 7:40 he says Babylon has to re-emerge. This is another deception, as if a special new "mideastern" nation or kingdom has to remerge. This ties into the deceptions with Isis in my opinion. Babylon is here now. Here you see the "spiritual" rendered pedantic. Babylon has to be a specific nation? The evils of Babylon rule over the entire planet NOW. Just look at the symbols in our media and by the way it is WORLD-WIDE. The Horus eyes for example appear in every nation.

  I notice Missler says that the time between the Rapture and the second coming of Christ will be expansive and lengthy? Why? This, I believe,  is to help deceive Christians who know some of their Bible and that the man of perdition must be revealed before the return of Jesus Christ.

One sees some indirect "date-setting", this always bothers me. I supposed timing something 20 years away is safe when you have reached your 80s, but it is still not what is mandated in scripture. Date-setters get themselves in trouble. I wonder myself how much lost faith has come about from the date-setters of the 1980s in evangelicalism since it's now 30 years later.

Lindsey continues stating [11:30] that he believes the ancient city of Babylon will be rebuilt. Is it impossible one could be to help the in the deception? But here scripture is wrested. Is the main endeavor here to point away from Rome and the spiritual fact the antichrist Pope holds sway over the earth and Babylon is in full tilt and already "ruling" on this earth. We don't need a new Saddam Hussein to make a new Babylon with hanging gardens for Babylon to rise up. Here too, "Babylon" could equal the new Islamic Caliphate the elites have planned for their civilization wars. Can you imagine a scenario where the Dominionists are told now is the time to fight "Babylon"?

Remember one thing I have always written, is the false evangelicals always POINT AWAY FROM THE POPE. They need to literalize Babylon to create an enemy for deceived Christians to "fight against" rather then to preach the gospel to. Of course they continue with more false pre-mill Rapture teachings which claim the church will be "snatched" out. Oddly Lindsey says this will happen before Babylon is rebuilt. This too is used as a blinder for many confessing Christians so they will not listen to those who warn of Babylon now which is the Babylon that rules over false churches and leaders.

 Lindsey around the 12:30 mark tells us "The Antichrist can't come until after the Rapture." This is another way to point away from the antichrist office of the Pope. It is also directly against scripture.

Thess 2:2That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

Here's a question for you all. How would the antichrist be revealed if the whole church is gone? Everyone without the Holy Spirit is supposed to be deceived by the Antichrist!

What's with those international friends he mentions around the 14:00 minute mark? They see trouble in other parts of the world but not the USA? Well those who can afford constant global travel are buffered a bit from American poverty. How in the world do you have to be outside the USA to see the police state here unless you are among the very privileged?

Some discussions about Obama's lack of a past ensure which are true. At 17:27, the "revived Roman Empire" is here now too. We don't have to "wait" for it. The royals swear allegiance to the Pope as the Holy Roman Emperor.

At the  23:00 mark, they bring up EMP. I need to research this more but sometimes I wonder if EMP is something else they just came up to frighten everyone with. I have been reading that one website that questions nuclear bombs, but still have not made my mind up on that issue. I can see the powers that be adding on the threats though in general.

He rightly warns of NDAA. Lindsey admits he has known Missler since 1972. Missler admits Lindsey helped him with sponsorship and encouragement at his start. Missler presents Hal Lindsey with one of his golden medallions at the end.

See my other articles exposing these false teachers:

Hal Lindsey

Chuck Missler


Luca said...

What do you think of the animal welfare organizations like Peta?

Anonymous said...

Thess 2:2. I have heard that
"falling away" can mean a departure or departing. Which could mean the rapture, the departing of the church. And then the antichrist shows up.

Here is an interesting question. If the church is not raptured, yet a person can lose their salvation from taking the mark of the beast, then does that mean one can lose their salvation? And if so, then how are we secure in our eternal salvation? Maybe the church is raptured and salvation for others can be lost in the tribulation.

"Here's a question for you all. How would the antichrist be revealed if the whole church is gone? Everyone without the Holy Spirit is supposed to be deceived by the Antichrist!"

Maybe there are those who heard the gospel but rejected it, before the tribulation. Then they come to the truth. How were old testament people saved? Isn't the Holy Spirit living inside of a believer a new testament thing? Did the holy spirit indwell believers in the old testament? Not temporarily but continuously.

The end times can be complicated.

Anonymous said...

I thought both of these men were dead!

Христо Стилиянов said...

"The end times can be complicated."

If you follow your tail in the "pre-trib, post-trib" rapture false dichotomy with the brad pit lookalike antichrist, it is.

There is nothing complicated about the end times. Date setters, and the dispensationalist man-made eschatology makes it complicated.

The end times is not a comic book, it is just a pattern that has been foreshadowed in different ways in the old testament.

"Here too, "Babylon" could equal the new Islamic Caliphate the elites have planned for their civilization wars. Can you imagine a scenario where the Dominionists are told now is the time to fight "Babylon"?"

This. In fact the american christianity is already checkmated like the lutheran and other protestant denominations were in Germany at the time of Hitler. They had to dissociate themselves from the Nazi jew murdering regime, but by doing so, they had to draw closer to Rome.

So the american israel supporter will have to make a choice -
go fight the islamic caliphate along with the Cathorthodox church, the biggest enemy of the church, to protect Israel, or deny its 100 history of dispensationalism.

They will act as Jehoshaphat did - fight along the greatest enemy, which will bring a curse on the USA.

Cathorthodoxy is 1000000 times deadlier than islam, because it uses deception to destroy the soul. Satan is a serpent, not a bear. But americans are not reading their bible and are scared from the scimitar and not the tongue of the papist.

Христо Стилиянов said...

The blood of those 6 millions of jews in the holocaust is used as a layer to bury and conceal the millennial genocide against true christians in europe. Because now the cathorthodoxy is suffering under islamic persecution, they have associated themselves with the jews, so that the old martyrs of pre and reformation times are forgotten and discarded, replaced with the struggles of Catholicism against islam. I have talked a little about the ecumenical resistance against nazism that is now repeated as a future ecumenical resistance against islam, with the jews being the damsel in distress.

Anonymous said...

Thank-You Bible Believer for addressing a serious concern within the church system here in America for many regard every word that comes out of the mouths of Missler and Lindsey as gospel truth. There can be no questioning of these great(?) men of god.....and yes, the church system here in America loves its human religious idols, does it not?

And those of us who are thrown into the "lower laity trenches" by the religious lords of our day (these are the pastors, church boards and elder systems, deacons and deaconesses, the powerful worship teams, etc.) who dare to question those who have rule over us are considered unsaved, backslidden, and causing disunity and dissension within the church walled system.

So let's ponder a few questions here...."Why have so many of God's Ekklesia (called out ones) who have worshiped and followed Jesus faithfully in days past, been slaughtered for their faith in Christ alone, by wicked religious zealots and not been "raptured" up into heaven without persecution?"

"Why aren't preachers and teachers, and especially those who boastfully visit the geopolitical land of Israel, not sharing the Bread of Life Gospel to the Jewish people instead of believing they are already saved without Jesus Christ?"

"Why has the church system here in America become so desensitized concerning the wickedness and evil that lurks within our own borders and especially within our own churches....have any of us heard a good sermon lately on our own sin in which God, the Holy Spirit convicts our hearts and minds to the point of brokenness, repentance, and changed lives through Christ alone? No! There is no preaching of law and grace, in rightly dividing God's Word, and thus the church has become a drunken religious harlot....serving up the strongest beer and wine it can get its hands on. And for the record.....if a born again believer chooses not to literally drink amongst the 501 c. 3 church system attendees here in are called a Pharisee, a bar virgin, a teetotaler, or cursed and thrown under the attendees love their booze.....

So here in America, the church looks like the rest of the world for the most part, and we are supposed to look to Israel for spiritual perfection?

"The Church As A Vehicle To Transform The World" by Pastor Dean Good addresses some surprising issues which were shocking at first...his video can be viewed online. But in the grand scheme of this life, perhaps he is not "so far off" in speaking truth here.

jl said...

Dear Luca,

Peta believes that animal rights would truly exist if all people become vegans.

Animal rights activist tend to act like this woman in the video below:

jl is against animal cruelty (Proverbs 12:10)


jl is against animal rights (Matt 15:11)


jl, humble friend of EL ELYON

Anonymous said...

There is so much orchestrated confusion on the end times prophesy. Sadly most want to hear what they are hearing. If people drop all the 'merchandise' and 'teachers' and just go to the bible, the truth clearly falls out. You nailed it on this one! 2 Thess 2; 1-4 says that the rapture cannot happen until after the antichrist is revealed. They try to misinterpret apostasia into 'departing' but if you read it all and try to make a timeline, there's no way around it. See for yourself with verses 1-12.

Nope. Eternal security is another one they have sold most on. Most bible verses preach against it, a few they use to support it. Not sure on it, better to be safe than sorry, eh? If you google the phrase "he who endures to the end will be saved" (words of Christ), you will see the bible context for it. Then, you have wolves like John MacArthur telling people that they can take the mark and still be saved, when Revelation says several times that they can not be saved but will land in the lake of fire. Take your pick: false prophesy teacher vs. the word of God.

Everyone without the Holy Spirit is deceived now. Yes, OT people had the Holy Spirit, David and prophets, etc. Leaving or continuous, who knows.

I totally agree with anonymous (#6 below).

And I love fluffy kittens.
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Anonymous said...

"Why have so many of God's Ekklesia (called out ones) who have worshiped and followed Jesus faithfully in days past, been slaughtered for their faith in Christ alone, by wicked religious zealots and not been "raptured" up into heaven without persecution?"

Why do some christians suffer more than others? Short answer, because they do. God's will for everybody is different. Nobody has all the answers. Why were Enoch and Elijah raptured up?

Isaiah 55:9 "For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts."

"Why aren't preachers and teachers, and especially those who boastfully visit the geopolitical land of Israel, not sharing the Bread of Life Gospel to the Jewish people instead of believing they are already saved without Jesus Christ?"

Not everybody who believes in Israel's role in the end times thinks that Jews are saved without Jesus. They simply believe that Israel as a nation will return to God. And isn't it illegal to preach the gospel in Israel?

"So here in America, the church looks like the rest of the world for the most part, and we are supposed to look to Israel for spiritual perfection? "

Whoever said that we were? We should always look towards Jehovah. Always look towards Jesus Christ as our God and Savior.

"There is nothing complicated about the end times. Date setters, and the dispensationalist man-made eschatology makes it complicated."

I am glad that you have it all figured out, most of us do not.

Anonymous said...

They point to the Madhi as antichrist and when he is done away with people will run into the arms of the pope, the real seat of the antichrist (Luke 21:8) BTW, Lindsey and Missler are related through one of Lindsey's ex-wives, as he is on #4. - Don

Ephesians 511 Blog said...

Hal Lindsey's daughters went to the Jesuit Gonzaga University, I have the 2002 Alumni Directory.

Chuck Missler has the Jesuit Justo Lacunza-Balda that once reported directly to the Pope and speaks at the Club of Rome as an adviser to his SWANsat company, I have the letterhead.

Chuck Missler also is a part of the International Standard Version Bible that has a full blown Jesuit, Eugene Ulrich, listed in the website at the very bottom -

Luca said...

In Italy gay sexual activity is legal since 1890

Anonymous said...

If you are hungry for some preaching by an anointed servant of God, try Zac Poonen's website. He has hundreds of hours of preaching, plus many online books available, full text, for free. I am currently listening, verse by verse, through the whole New Testament, and it is such a blessing.

Bible Believer said...

Luca, I see Peta as NWO run, especially when they parade women around in lettuce only and try to equate humans to animals constantly.

Bible Believer said...

How would any get saved in an Antichrist run world with the Holy Spirit removed from this place? It would be impossible.

I believe those who are truly saved will refuse the mark, and be protected by God, but I am not going to be one of those easy believing types who fool Christians saying you are saved, "don't worry about it", which sets people up to take it.
If the Holy Spirit is removed from the earth no one is getting born again. The Holy Spirit runs that show even for those who heard the gospel, and then get born again later.

Yes I know this end times stuff can be complicated. Let's pray to God to answer some of these questions of course. I was warned premill Rapture was false because I was asking questions like this of these guys that made no sense according to what they were saying years ago!

Bible Believer said...

They are very old. I believe chances are they are seared but if one is not, time grows short. They have to be in their early to mid 80s.

Bible Believer said...

Yes the pretribbers make it complicated I agree.

I think the date-setters and dispensationalists set many heads spinning when it comes to scripture.

Remember God will answer sincere prayers for us to know and be taught.
I agree that the pattern of Revelation is repeated in scripture.

I have realized with growing horror, "Christianity" has been united for future battle against the Islamic world. No preaching the gospel here but warfare.
You are correct that American Christianity is set up for the NWO lust for war. Yes the Lutherans and Protestants were checkmated by Hitler, to draw close to Rome. Yes the American Israel supporters if you see them on many a website are cheering for war with Islam. I worry about this one friend of mine, ex Army, everything is the Muslims are taking over, while he is aware of some enemies within the gate, there is a total blank where Rome and Pope sit. When the war comes to fight the forming Islamic Caliphate, they will be forced into unity with the Catholic church. I agree with you about the Catholic and Orthodox church. Both religions are special brand of evil because they play at the appearance of being "Christian" but are anything but. Even if they have many markings like the double serpents on top of the cough "wizards" cozier of the Orthodox priest.

The Catholic church is fully embraced among most churches out there. 99% they are preaching the Pope is our friend while preaching about the dangers of the Muslims. You are definitely right about that.

I believe Islam came out of Catholicism which makes the picture even more interesting.

Thanks for your links Xp. I will check out your blog soon.

Bible Believer said...

Xp, what happened to the Jews was truly horrendous, and one of the worse events in the world, but there are many hidden genocides, that Rome has enacted including against the Orthodox they play at being pals with today.

Armenia, Croatia and plenty of others.

In an odd way history is turning to repeat itself. The new crusades are far more dangerous today with the kind of weaponry we have. [what do you think about those who deny the existence of nuclear weapons? I am curious, disinfo? or on to something?]

Yes they are using the Jews as the damsel in distress. It is deeply concerning to watch Netyanhu and pals always playing to the script. The Jews will be considered expendable as warned of in scripture. They don't realize the Holocaust was an auto de fe in advanced form and should be more careful of listening to the serpent-tongued Pope. Of course in their case, they have the luciferians running the place like we do.

Bible Believer said...

I have met those who believe every word coming out of the mouths of Missler and Lindsey. I parted ways from those who would not see through their deceptions. I agree they are among the religious idols. They are simply "new priests" except they don't have the collars. Why is their interpretation of scripture held so highly.
I agree about the many martyrs who have died for the gospel and truth of Jesus Christ, not being saved by a Rapture. This is how they inoculate the church against being prepared for persecution. They preach, "you will escape" and what if you do not. Even this idea that some will escape "death" leads to false convictions.

Yes you see them cavort over in secular Israel, inviting its freemasonic leaders to speak at their churches and seminars. The same place that persecutes Christians, and turns non-Roman approved missionaries away more often then not. Most follow the Satanic gospel of Hagee, that the Jews are already saved.

I agree about the churches never warning of sin. They have their geo-politics to brainwash and to shout about the evil OVER THERE, while ignoring it within the door.

Yes Israel is seen as this spiritual mecca, but the majority of the population has rejected Jesus Christ and follows Talmudic Judaism. Their ability to deceive millions of Americans into "defending secular Israel" and take them into Christian Zionism was a masterful stroke.

Yes why aren't they preaching the gospel to these folks. I had the hard time of telling Jewish friends, you need Jesus Christ to be born again. One is open to Jesus Christ, it is not easy but IT MUST BE DONE.

This alone marks them as a deceiver.

Thanks I will check out that video. Hopefully he is preaching against world transformation. I think this physical world [outside of humans in need of a Savior] is beyond hope. God plans to end it. Those seeking Utopia and kingdoms here have lost the plot.

Bible Believer said...

Thanks anon--the one mentioning fluffy kittens. :) and JL for explaining more on Peta.

Luca is that an enforced law? I tend to think that one faded to the back of the books. I suppose if the Vatican wasn't it's own separate nation, a lot of them would be in jail.

Some of our southern states still have laws on the books against homosexual sex, but they are not enforced. You will still find homosexual neighborhoods and nightclubs in more liberal areas of the deep south.

Bible Believer said...

Ephesians 5:11 yes they both have their Jesuit and Catholic connections. Isn't Gonzaga in Washington DC? Talk about connections. Surprised it wasn't Georgetown or the American university.

Yes Missler has deep Catholic/Vatican connections.

Thanks for the links.

Remember Missler's response to his critics?

Bible Believer said...

Don they have a shared relative with an present wife? I knew Lindsey was on #4. Was he widowed or is this three divorces?

Anonymous said...

It is hard to get the info as Lindsey's divorces are on the down low, he doesn't want people to know as it is bad for book sales. The way to track is on the back of his books through the years, he has put dedications to his wives and they change with revisions. To my knowledge all of his wives are still alive and he has three adult daughters by his 2nd wife. I had read at one time the Lindsey is related to Missler through marriage of one of his ex-wives. I looked for the reference, but it is gone. - Don

Anonymous said...

BTW, xp is right about the Nazi Holocaust vs. the Reformation. I am currently reading "Romanism and the Reformation" by H. Grattan Guinness and it verifies this very issue. If you want to know what the Reformers believed about Revelation read this book. - Don

Anonymous said...

Great article Bible Believer!

We must be very careful who we choose to sit under regarding our faith in Jesus Christ. It is so easy to desire to follow a man or woman's penned bible studies for we need that earthly presence in our lives to be validated, when in fact, the Holy Spirit can teach us directly from His Word when we have Him indwelling in us.

Jesus is the only way.....not any man or woman who lords over us. Praise God!

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 4:48, you are spot on!

Христо Стилиянов said...

"There is nothing complicated about the end times. Date setters, and the dispensationalist man-made eschatology makes it complicated."

I am glad that you have it all figured out, most of us do not."


I haven't figured it all out. But even people of the middle ages know more than you. You can't do the most simple identification of antichrist, because you have believed a lie and now you share the belief system of Benny Hinn. I started from being hyperdispy (that didnt last long), but as God opened my eyes, I no longer share the ludicrous and evil theology of escapism called dispensationalism.

Anonymous said...

BB said:....'It would be impossible'

SIGH. all things are possible with God....

this blog is getting sad

Христо Стилиянов said...

Like the word of faith, Christ, is close to anyone who searches with the heart(Rom 10), so Antichrist is not far from us all. God doesn't want us to be in the dark:

Proverbs 17:24
Wisdom is before him that hath understanding; but the eyes of a fool are in the ends of the earth.

Proverbs 14:6
knowledge is easy unto him that understandeth.

Христо Стилиянов said...

Just to make it clear, these scriptures refer not to me, but those few, the minority, who hold the true prophetic faith, and not the heretical opinions of proud men.

As for me - this is what i believe about myself:

1 Cor 8:2

And if any man think that he knoweth any thing, he knoweth nothing yet as he ought to know.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 9:44,

Definition of sad: Literal born again believers and followers of Jesus Christ putting their hope, faith, and trust in any earthly human being or material thing(junk) as if they/or it were god.

Following the Lindseys, Misslers, or any other human being is a gross error on our part as all of us should be seeking the teachings of Jesus Christ alone.

And even sadder, personally, have not been to a church or home Bible study where the additional works of a penned man or woman's hand have been the main focus of the session. What is wrong with eliminating all of the books and so called study guides, and simply opening up our Bibles and allowing God, the Holy Spirit, to reach and teach us His Words?

Perhaps this is why the western churches are becoming irrelevant.

Anonymous said...

ummm. Gonzaga is in Washington state not Washington d.c.


Aka Alert said...

Hal and Chuck's matching shirts...when they're wearing the same jersey, they're on the same team.

Bible Believer said...

I agree about dispensationalism. It has created a lot of the fog.

Anon, how is someone born again without the Holy Spirit?

Would you like to explain that one to me?

" And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.

7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:"

The Rapture teachers teach that the Holy Spirit will be removed from the earth. There is inconsistency in their teachings.

Bible Believer said...

Agree we should always be mindful of ourselves before God and thanks for posting 1 Cor 8:2 Xp. The Christian attitude should not be one of being a know-it-all but understanding we continue to learn, and study as led by the Holy Spirit.

Bible Believer said...

LOL about the Jersey's

Thanks for telling me Gonzaga is in Wash state. I always get that one mixed up with the deaf college in Wash DC which is Galluadet.

Anonymous said...

Why are so many of these famous so called Bible teachers, preachers, and prophets(pseudo prophets) divorced? And is it healthy to and for the Body of Christ to elevate these people to famed status? We call out the sin of the homosexuals and yet ignore the sin the of heterosexuals and even bless them with our bucks! So why the double standard in our churches?

Bible Believer said...

I agree. They all pay attention to the homosexuals and say nothing about false divorces. I have noticed many of them are divorced as well. I suppose fidelity to one spouse doesn't go with the making merchandise of people.

John Cole said...

Missler teaming up with false prophet Kim klement.

Bible Believer said...

Kim Klement is NAR right?

Hmm guess I was right...

Anonymous said...

Fruits of NAR devotees.....

When a born again believer and follower of Jesus Christ, disagrees with their theology.....look out! The NAR women that "befriended" me in trying to indoctrinate me with this theology from hell, are now trying to destroy my marriage, my family, my children's marriages, my reputation within the community, and seek the failure of my business. This is a wicked movement and reminds me much of what Hitler embraced in his day of sick and authoritarian religion....and oh, I forgot to mention that Hitler too, was a charismatic. As goes the harlot church, so goes the rest of our culture. God have mercy on us.