Friday, July 4, 2014

Joyce Meyer: "Your Thoughts Are Powerful"

Look at that outfit, it has a very strong witchy look to it. The 5-part flower, [think Lutheran logo] also has meaning!

This is one of the biggest lies out there, that our thoughts are powerful. Witches believe directing their thoughts can do "magic". In fact one part of spell-casting is to train your thoughts for visualization and for focusing. So when she tells her audience [9:59], "learn to think power thoughts", it is very creepy. When she adds that she wants people to have a sit down session and "think thoughts on purpose" and "speak them out right", that is "law of attraction" 101 which the New Agers love.  Of course I have written before about how these false ideas have moved into the Christian churches.

What worries me the most about Joyce Meyer is she stirs some true Christian ideas [such as protecting one's mind] but mixes it with the false New Age teachings. In this she is one of the most wily and she deceives many women. Early in the video she stresses about how she may not have a good life, due to her early abuse, this is more of what pushes the "best life now" stuff. "We have to learn how to think right before we live right." When she talks about God having a good plan for our lives, she pushes that there too.

Christians can be deceived by that stuff. In America, Christianity is being more and more touted as a WORLD SUCCESS PROGRAM. Unless you achieve certain things or have good health, or have the loving family and white-picket fence life, in many circles you will be seen as faithless. Some of the more extreme ones will even say that you are demonized especially if your life has many severe challenges. How does that mess with people's minds especially in the Pentecostal and false deliverance worlds?

Now sin can bring suffering into our lives but the Bible says rain falls on the just and unjust. One thing I have noticed is that many people outside normal mainstream society who may suffer anything from severe disabilities to poverty are being made to feel like Christianity is not for them. It is for the people who have their stuff "together". I have seen people even fall away, citing that God did not "fix" their problems. In the video Joyce goes on about how she wants God's promises in THIS LIFE, and well, what happens to those who face more persecution or hardship?

Here she can use some bible verses, which do speak of how men think but twists it saying "We become what we think". Telling people, "the way you talk to yourself is one of the most important things in your life", sounds good. Sure there is some truth here, but here is this idea, that one can have the "perfect life" via your thoughts. A biblical renewal of the mind is done via God's Word not by what she is teaching. She tells her audience, "We have to think on purpose."

I've met more and more women into Joyce Meyer, her popularity is growing.


TruthInLove said...

That is what the 'word of faith' teachers have been promoting too, a 'speaking things into existence' by saying it with faith, 'name it and claim it' and garbage like that. The prosperity, health and wealth 'gospel,' positive thinking and new age and witchcraft/occult and all that stuff is what it is.


1. God is sovereign, He decides what will and won't be, and we can't change that by any procamation. Nothing can override or overstep God. If He does not want it, it simply will not be. If we try to usurp God's will to modify something by an utterance, we are claiming to be above God or to be God, the lie of the devil that started in the Garden of Eden. Thoughts are just as dangerous as the words too. And it won't work.

2. They always leave out the verses where God promised us we would suffer. We will suffer for His namesake, we will suffer tribulation and trials (all who live godly in Jesus), we will suffer when we deny ourselves, pick up our cross daily, and follow Him. The bible is full of verses about how we WILL suffer for our faith and our walk; persecution, ostracizing, martyrdom, etc. There are blessings too, (and the suffering for Him contains its own glory) but again, they never mention these verses about suffering, trials, and tribulations.

3. And yes, that is a witchy look all the way around. Funny how we see so much black mixed with gaudy shades of red, scarlet, purple, hot pink, etc. these days, eh? It's like 'color me evil' is the fashion now.

4. We are supposed to have trials to help our faith grow. Read the letters to the churches in Revelation and see how we are even told to ASK for difficulties!

Another thing I have noticed is, while doing my fair share of spying around, in so many churches (supposedly Evangelical) they introduce a book from such an apostate like her, or Beth Moore, etc. for the 'women's study'! First thought I had was how the devil went to Eve first to tempt her with deception. I did my fair share of warning, but it all fell of deaf ears with remarks like 'oh, it's okay,' ... and 'oh, everyone is called a "heretic" nowadays, but...' ... and so on. One of the pastors even said "Sh! What we do stays here... we like what she says..." etc. speaking about Moore for the women's study. No one would listen. I moved on of course, shaking the dust off my feet as I left.

It's mind boggling how blinded these 'churched' folks are!!!

Joe Krohn said...

What's wrong with the Lutheran symbol?

FaithGuy3 said...

The word "purpose" is a New Age buzzword too.

Rick Warren uses it, as does Oprah Winfrey, Mitt Romney(among others).

So at the very least, we see 2 (professing)christian leaders, a mormon, and an admitted christian-hater use this buzzword.

Loz said...

It all seems so harmless... but remember the devil comes as an angel of light (2 Corinthians 11:14). Instead of relying on God to do the work in you, you can take credit for the work... “For by grace are you saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast” (Ephesians 2:7-9).

“And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God”(Romans 12:2-3) It’s God’s Word that does the transforming in us.

Twisting bible verses out of context to suit one’s own agenda seems to be the mainstream of today’s false prophets whose task is to get ‘the sheeple’ ready to accept the false new age Christ (messiah) to come. I was one taken in by Joyce Meyers (until the Lord gave me revelation on this false so called ‘harmless’ new age / psychology teaching) she is good friends with Osteen, warning bells in itself! Joel Osteen said in an interview, there are many ways to heaven, instead of quoting Jesus as the ONLY way. Anyone with any discernment can see through the false prosperity ‘health- wealth’ doctrine that Christ and his disciples did not teach, “ I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you to live in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse! As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let them be under God’s curse!” (Galatians 1:6-9).

This ‘health-wealth’ doctrine is dangerous, instead of the masses coming to the Lord for repentance of sins, as Jesus came to save us from our sins (Galatians 1:4) they come looking for ‘goodies’ and when things don’t go their way, they say Christianity didn't work for them (not that they had a true conversion in the first place) and those who don’t turn away think they’re saved because they repeated some words but then proceed to live as they like, when Jesus said “If you love Me, you will keep My commandments” (John 14:15). We are to test that we are in the faith and work out our own salvation with fear and trembling (2 Corinthians 13:5 & Philippians 2:12).

“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the door of the kingdom of heaven in people’s faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to. Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when you have succeeded, you make them twice as much a child of hell as you are.” (Matthew 23:13-15)

On a final note: Lets pray for all false teachers out there and their followers and hope that that the Lord will have mercy on them and open their spiritual eyes to the truth, instead of being bedazzled by mammon and power “then you shall know the truth and the truth will set you free” (John 8:32). The Bible states “For this reason, God will send them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness” (2 Thessalonians 2:11-12). Are the likes of Joel Osteen and Joyce Meyers the strong delusion?! Whilst we’re still breathing God given air there’s chance for repentance and forgiveness.

The Secret versus the bible, how the new age doctrine twists the bible:

Huffington Post outing of Meyers and Osteen:

Bible Believer said...

What's wrong with the Lutheran Symbol?

Well it's really a Rosicrucian Symbol. I talked about this on an article this year, I will look for it later for you.

Bible Believer said...

She definitely has the color of evil along with her Rosicrucian flower necklace. Yes Lillianna, I agree about the denial of the trials and tribulations a Christian will encounter. We will have joy in the Lord, but they sell a false Christianity that assures worldly "self improvement" and prosperity.

I have met people who have fallen away who came looking for the goodies and expected their earthly lives to be improved. These people like Meyer have done untold damage to millions of souls.

Anonymous said...

Here is some information on the 5 pedal flower. - Don

TruthInLove said...

Hi Loz and BB,

I totally agree, great analysis there! And, Osteen has given his approval to unification with the pope too, some time ago! All the puzzle pieces are coming together...

One more thing I noticed a lot of is black nail polish, and recently even black lipstick! I mention these things because I think it is one of their ways of finding each other, like the symbols. Sometimes it's just a teen fad, but on adults?

Oh, and see, here is a perfect example, (back to that other commenter) I forgot all about this latest post I made above. Useful, or not? I even mention some of the things I have been doing to help wake others up. I'm not surprised that I have enemies out there... and co-intel and controlled opposition is everywhere, right?

But I am a servant of Jesus and have counted the cost and will continue to do the good work - unhindered!

Loz said...

FYI apparently Joel Osteen later retracted what he said on Larry King live in an open letter put on his website, as it done untold damage to his credibility. Unfortunately he didn't retract about his teachings.

Anonymous said...

And what's with the plastic surgery?
If I recall she made the comment that she asked God if she could butcher get face and He told get it was her face she could do what she wanted with it .

Weird, to say the least.


Bible Believer said...

That is weird. Sounds like new world order stuff, they seem to have a "thing" for the JOKER looking faces.

Anonymous said...

Yeah it does look like the joker. I thought that had to be deliberate. Who gets that bad a face lift and have the money she has and not get it fixed.


Anonymous said...

Actually ,I've seen some actresses with the joker look. They are really famous, so they must have money. Maybe it can't be fixed. Vanity at it's most costly....

Anonymous said...

Joyce Meyer was invited into our church via a Bible Study, complete with her penned books and videos. After a Bible Study on "Heaven" penned by Randy Alcorn, in which he twisted the Scriptures to say that our "pets go heaven, just like people, we then gravitated to Joyce's "Power of the Mind." She stated that we have the power to do anything we desire as "we are little gods" created in the image of Almighty God.

So then, by the power of my reasoning mind, "since I am a little god, I have the power to decide that my pet goes to heaven where we will be joined together in the presence of a jesus as one happy family." After all, Joyce says I am a little god, right?

So much for the Gospel of Jesus Christ, His teachings.....our sin, the need for repentance, and belief on our LORD Jesus Christ for salvation.

We are so desperately in need of solid Bible preaching and teachings in our narcissistic society that believes Jesus Christ came so that we might win a football game using his name....who are we really worshipping here anyway, Jesus or the power of the self?

Anonymous said...

For an evangelical leader, why is she teaching out her book instead of the bible? She starts out saying how so many are deceived, yet she is deceiving people herself saying you have to purpose to change yourself. At the 6:00 minute mark she says you read the Word of God to renew your mind and you get to where that old stuff doesn't come up. That is the best thing she said. But right after that she contradicts herself and says we have to purpose to change our thoughts. The duplicity is so frustrating, but these people don't even notice it.

Putting God first and reading his Word is what changes our thoughts and attitudes. We don't do it! I could only watch about 7 or 8 minutes and then I started to feel sick to my stomach.

She wants you to buy her book and read it over and over so it will sink in. She says you can't hear something or read something once or twice and get it, so she wants everyone to have her book to read over and over.

Why isn't she encouraging people to your bible and read it over and over? That's where the power is. It's not in Joyce, it's in Jesus Christ. She's telling you to change yourself in your own power.

It's an interesting thing to hear the false teaching coming out of her deformed mouth. The words match her mouth.

I pray for the people listening to her, that they will want to listen to God's Word instead. That is where the power to change is.

Yes, the purple and black and weird lights and columns on each side are very distracting. Good way to put it - the color of evil. It's what society is embracing everywhere I look it seems like.


Anonymous said...

The purple and black are suspicious...
I have only seen Joyce Meyer once on a dvd at the library (go figure).She just seemed so aggressive and, bossy ,I guess is the word.Not the kind of person I would want to listen to...

Anonymous said...

Yeah, She looks like the joker, she even has the purple clothing. All she needs is white makeup and green hair. I kept waiting for batman to appear.

But maybe the joker is a good look for her, since you shouldn't take anything she says seriously anyway. And you should not listen to a female "Pastor" because God does not call women to preach.

Bible Believer said...

I find myself wondering if the joker thing is some kind of occult marker. Mk Ultra? Joker is supposed to be the deceiver. That fits with Joyce Meyer. I think it has to be deliberate too, otherwise why would you allow your face to be mutilated that way?
Wouldn't they have to do something weird to the mouth to make the grin extend that long? It makes no sense otherwise.
I am glad anon, that you got away from a church with Joyce Meyer being taught.
She basically freely mixes the New Age into a veneer of Christianity with that "little god" garbage. And yes all the narcissism goes along with it. Those who are self absorbed love power, and seek it, what more then spiritually seeking your own godhood?

I agree about the colors and lights being distraction. Probably to help with the hypnotism with the lights matching her witchy-poo outfit.

Anonymous said...

Joyce Meyer was invited into our church via a women's Bible study. Her ad was placed in the church bulletin, emails were sent to all of us to encourage (code word for trying to make us feel guilty for not attending), and we were told to "invite a friend" which is one of the favorite sayings of the 501c. 3 church. And then the emails went out promoting here uncoming "conference" to the nearby metro area in our state in which we were encouraged to attend for a handsome fee (not including the motel fees, gas and insurance, and meals).

And so, Joyce Meyer was invited into the hearts and minds of men and women via the church system as it goes. I never heard of her until her name was raised and lifted up high in our church as a great Bible preacher.

As with the movie "Heaven is for Real," promoting false extra Biblical revelations, all of this antichrist teachings is coming to us via "the church."

Those we label as pagans, heathens, hedonists, unbelievers...basically anyone we say "is going to hell in a handbasket", they do not care about, nor heavily promote the Joyce Meyers or any TBN or God TV persona, nor do they promote any so called Christian movie, book, band, trinkety Christless junk, etc., as they do not care about any of that stuff.

What I find absolutely astonishing concerning our faith in Christ alone is this, the antichrist is embraced more by the churched and promoted MORE by the churched, than those we label as unsaved. So when that man of perdition comes, and he is coming.....the corporate church here in America will love, embrace, follow, and defy anyone who dares to speak against him, for we have just a taste of this already in our churches.....

Have any of you ever spoken up against the teachings of any of these idolized false preachers and teachers? That precious verse in our Scriptures where Jesus says "You will be hated for My Name's sake" will suddenly come alive and then you will know how much these charlatans are worshipped.

And then you will know. And all of that "love bombing" you received when you entered their religious institutions will suddenly dissove into immediate hatred. May God have mercy on us.