Thursday, July 31, 2014

Franklin Graham: "So What! Chop It Off!"

Found this video on News4themasses.

Franklin Graham has already compromised from having anything to do with the Knights of Malta [Boykin] infiltrated Family Research Council.

 For those new to this blog I have written about the FRC numerous times. Graham's flippant attitude towards martyrship of Christians is sickening and of course we see the ever present over-focus on supposedly 1-2% of the population--homosexuals.

 Here we see the zenith of the blustering false preacher, basically saying "bring it on", instead of being sober-minded. This also brings to mind something I was posting about the other day with the "Blood on the Altar" book, about false martyrship being pushed and more violence between groups via Satan's servants. It makes me wonder if we will hear even more of this "grandiose" kind of speech. After all, the Dominionists love the war talk, perhaps they are taking it to the "next" step.

“Are we going to be cowards because we’re afraid?,” Graham asked the crowd. “Could we get our heads chopped off? We could, maybe one day. So what? Chop it off!” Graham went on to assert that he loves gays “enough to care to warn them that if they want to continue living like this, it’s the flames of hell for you” and he will continue to do so because he will one day have to answer to God and does not want to be found to have been a coward who refused to preach God’s laws."

Ephesians 5:11 blog has reported Franklin Graham preaching in a Catholic church in Poland and Calvary Chapel preacher Skip Heitzig supporting this. [Pictures here] I am not surprised he is simply following in his Catholic-friendly father's footsteps. They are servants of the whore of Babylon.

Revelation 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

20 comments:

Victoria Di Agnello said...

I think this is definitely odd!

I have noticed only the extremes when it comes to suffering, persecution, and martyrdom; either they are too far on one side and 'run right towards it,' or too far the other way and they run in the other direction and avoid it at all costs, even to the point of denying their faith.

Doing anything like that is unacceptable. Under no circumstances is it ever 'okay' to deny our faith. Ever. Remember what Jesus said, if you deny Jesus before men, He will deny you and if you acknowledge Him, He will acknowledge you before the Father. It wasn't a suggestion.
Warning: Days of persecution ahead!

My advice? Live according to God's standards regardless of what comes along. Live a life that reflects Christ, and honors Him in life and death. Honor Him with your words in public. You don't need to be a loudspeaker evangelist, but just don't deny Him. If someone asks you if you are in favor of 'any' sin, you say no. If they ask you if you think there are other paths to God, you say; no. Hopefully you will also tell them why you say no so they have an opportunity of salvation too. If we really believe the gospel, then we should share it with them since we know they might end up in hell as you might be the one God sent to share the gospel with them. If you feel lead to grab a louspeaker, great, go for it, if not, it's not condemnation if we don't. Just stay true to the truth and share as God leads you and live the holy life He has called you to. If, in the process, we suffer and die, so be it. Don't be shocked, as Jesus told us this would happen beforehand.

To lose our life for loyalty to Jesus is an honor and not a dishonor.
To keep our life by denying Jesus is never an honor, but only a dishonor.

I found a nice article that encapsulates this well entitled "Are Christians Haters?" on the Apostasy Watch website, the first one for Aug. 1. It's a good article. It talks about how they called the early Christians in Rome intolerant 'haters' too.

The TruthKeepers website has some great stuff there too on persecution.

But Franklin's cavalier attitude here is outrageous.

Anonymous said...

"Doing anything like that is unacceptable. Under no circumstances is it ever 'okay' to deny our faith. Ever. Remember what Jesus said, if you deny Jesus before men, He will deny you and if you acknowledge Him, He will acknowledge you before the Father. It wasn't a suggestion.
Warning: Days of persecution ahead!"

Isn't that exactly what Peter did? Deny Jesus. Tho I doubt Peter lost his salvation.

Anonymous said...

Victoria,

I really appreciate your comments, a very level headed approach and excellent advice. I think you really hit the nail on the head in terms of how we should behave in this world.

Of late it seems that in these online forums (even the very best ones like this one) people are letting conspiracy theories get the best of them and it seems they are no longer heading Peter's advice to be sober minded.
It does great harm to our witness to be on the extreme end of conspiracy theories and believing a conspiracy to be true even with no first hand experience to verify its truth. I used to be sadden by the wolves in sheep's clothing, now I am more saddened by how this has affected Christians and how they are reacting.

Thank you your post, it was very encouraging.
I am thinking your name is Italian, I am of Italian descent. :-)

Angela Lina


Anonymous said...

Skip Heitzig is obviously a false teacher. Anyone that can confirm the false gospel of catholicism that leads to hell, is a false teacher.

Anonymous said...

Interesting clip of Franklin Graham; fascinating response from the crowd...laughing and shaking heads boldly up and down in agreement. So easy, very easy to be prideful in a building amongst like minded individuals where people consider themselves "safe."

But....

What happens on that day if and when these same individuals are standing in line waiting to be slaughtered? Or what happens when that gun in pointed to your head as you are commanded to "deny Jesus Christ" or your head will be blown off? How does one handle watching your children shot right in front of you as you stand there defenseless with the overwhelming evil surrounding you?

These people need to take a trip through the National Holocaust Museum for a stark reminder of the depravity of mankind. There were no fancy air conditioned/heated buildings to sit in; no fancy meals to fill the belly; no fancy clothes to protect the skin; no pictures with smiling/laughing faces....no not one....and no prideful Franklin Graham types dressed in fancy suits calling these helpless people cowards for not standing up to the men and women surrounding them with weapons.

My point; It is so easy, very easy, to be "brave" and to "talk smart" until the time violent death is knocking at your door. Does Mr. Franklin Graham just talk the talk, or will he be ready in the event he may have to walk that talk? Jesus was never, ever, ever, a right winger, and left winger, a liberal or a conservative.....to label our LORD and Savior with our humanistic labels is pure blasphemy. May God have mercy on Mr. Graham and all those who trust in this man.

Anonymous said...


It does great harm to our witness to be on the extreme end of conspiracy theories and believing a conspiracy to be true even with no first hand experience to verify its truth. I used to be sadden by the wolves in sheep's clothing, now I am more saddened by how this has affected Christians and how they are reacting.

Thank you your post, it was very encouraging.
I am thinking your name is Italian, I am of Italian descent. :-)


Wow. you are simply naïve dear. So we need first hand experience to verify the truth of a matter? Do you mean like television news?. That statement is so flawed I will not even attempt to correct you.

As far as the Italian poster it is the entity aka lilianna white and/or mary white.

Just pointing that out.

have a safe, nice, smily face kinda day!

Victoria Di Agnello said...

Hi again,

I finally decided to look and see what other comments are here!
(;
To the one anon: Yes, Peter returned and became one of the most outspoken leaders of the true born again church, which was all prophesied by Jesus. BUT, he had time to do that.

So, are you saying that it's "okay" to deny Jesus in times of trouble? Do you know that there are those threatened by Islam to renounce their Christian faith or die, and they make the right choice; to die as a martyr. Some think 'well, it is okay, I will deny Him now and reaffirm Him later,' so they do just that, and are killed anyway. Remember Jesus words: Deny me before men and I will deny you before my Father in heaven. Don't risk it anon! We have no guarantees of time, etc.

It is a sobering thing, but taught in the bible. We cannot love our own families more than Him, that is what I think He means, we must love HIM above all. And I am ready to die. I will never deny Him, I'd rather die. (Not that I have a bad life at all, please don't think that! It's great actually.) (;
Also, beware of denying Him through slow compromise in the little things. The church in America is so fattened up for denial in the face of persecution it's astounding. Remember:

"But whatever things were gain to me, those things I have counted as loss for the sake of Christ. More than that, I count all things to be loss in view of the surpassing value of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord, for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and count them but rubbish so that I may gain Christ, and may be found in Him, not having a righteousness of my own derived from the Law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which comes from God on the basis of faith, that I may know Him and the power of His resurrection and the fellowship of His sufferings, being conformed to His death; in order that I may attain to the resurrection from the dead.

Not that I have already obtained it or have already become perfect, but I press on so that I may lay hold of that for which also I was laid hold of by Christ Jesus. Brethren, I do not regard myself as having laid hold of it yet; but one thing I do: forgetting what lies behind and reaching forward to what lies ahead, I press on toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus. Let us therefore, as many as are perfect, have this attitude; and if in anything you have a different attitude, God will reveal that also to you; however, let us keep living by that same standard to which we have attained. Brethren, join in following my example, and observe those who walk according to the pattern you have in us. For many walk, of whom I often told you, and now tell you even weeping, that they are enemies of the cross of Christ, whose end is destruction, whose god is their appetite, and whose glory is in their shame, who set their minds on earthly things. For our citizenship is in heaven, from which also we eagerly wait for a Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ; who will transform the body of our humble state into conformity with the body of His glory, by the exertion of the power that He has even to subject all things to Himself. Philippians 3; 7-21



Hi Angelina Lina!

You're welcome!
I do have Italian in me (and some other things mixed in there...).
(:
God bless you sister!
Thank you for your kindness.

All praise be to our King and Savior Jesus!!!

P.S. I usually don't have much time so I just leave one comment and move on to other blogs and duties, this was just an exception.

Anonymous said...

Anon at 5:17,

How true. It is so easy to talk tough, but what did Jesus say all the disciples would do? What did He say Peter would do?

That's right. Scatter and deny Him.

Cutting Graham some slack, I think it might be "easy" if I can use that term for ourself, but to watch your children or spouse tortured. Well, that's going be a tough one to deal with.

As a tangent, Graham better get ready, because he may just live long enough to see the evil that Satan and men can do to one another, even in this country. He is out of his mind if he thinks this country is safer than any others.

Anonymous said...

Anon 5:17 here....thanks for the comments as I am so encouraged in my faith in Christ alone here through the power of His Word.

Perhaps the readers missed a valuable point here in watching this disturbing video.....witnessing the blatant pride in the words of a man who so boldly invites detestable violence into our communities. Did you not hear Mr. Graham's words or watch the haughtiness of this entire presentation...audience included?

I chose to follow Christ and Him alone for the words of men have become foolishness in light of our Holy God. What I find so fascinating amongst those who profess Christianity in the west is this....it is so easy to speak so smart in the eyes of men, until that day of reckoning comes to our backyards, then the day of chastening will begin, where the tares will be separated from the wheat.

Many will deny Christ to save themselves, but those who do not deny our Risen LORD and SAVIOR will have everlasting life with Him forever.

Is pride then, a virtue, or a curse? What does God have to say about man's pride? Hmmmmm.

Jimmy said...

'Of late it seems that in these online forums (even the very best ones like this one) people are letting conspiracy theories get the best of them and it seems they are no longer heading Peter's advice to be sober minded'

This is a very dangerous way of thinking. It reminds me of a quote from a very famous 'born again christian'

November 10, 2001 - President Bush Speaks to United Nations
G.W. Bush:
"We must speak the truth about terror. Let us never tolerate outrageous
conspiracy theories concerning the attacks of September the 11th;
malicious lies that attempt to shift the blame away from the terrorists,
themselves, away from the guilty. To inflame ethnic hatred is to advance
the cause of terror."
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/11/20011110-3.html

Bible Believer said...

Please avoid the use of the term "conspiracy theory" as well, I know conspiracy is not a theory. Are there lies out there? Yes there is. But many overuse that term to shut down thinking.

I agree with the poster that talks about what Graham could face along with many others. Human pride does come before a fall. Those who seem eager for wars and killing to begin give me a sick feeling in my stomach. There is the Christian Triumphalist nonsense that is one of the greatest lies being pushed. Yes it is running towards it and that is disturbing.

Anonymous said...

Agreed, the term "con.....y th..ry" is problematic, it is unfortunate that does shut down thinking for some people and for some people it can border on irrational. However, I agree for true Christians best just to stay away from the term.

Angela Lina

Anonymous said...

Jimmy,


I understand what you are saying to an extent and I certainly do not believe anything that President said, however there are Christians who believe there were o planes at all it was all cinematography.

Is that a reasonable belief for a Christian considering the number of people on the ground that saw first hand the planes hit the towers.

When I read to be "sober minded" it reminds me that there is a lot of deception and the only resource I can truly trust is God's word.

Do I suspect it was a false flag event, yes, but that is my personal suspicion of which I have no tangible evidence/proof that I can show to anyone.

Perhaps I am wrong, but I do believe Christians should conduct themselves with he highest level of integrity, and things that happen on the world stage are not easily known/understood, so I am sober minded and cautious about what I accept as true.

Angela Lina






Jimmy said...

'I understand what you are saying to an extent and I certainly do not believe anything that President said, however there are Christians who believe there were o planes at all it was all cinematography.

Is that a reasonable belief for a Christian considering the number of people on the ground that saw first hand the planes hit the towers.

When I read to be "sober minded" it reminds me that there is a lot of deception and the only resource I can truly trust is God's word.'

Have you spent even 5 minutes investigating the possibility of video fakery on 9/11?

Perhaps spend 5 minutes thinking about proverbs 18:13 first.

'He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him.'


Iam sober and I believe there were NO planes because its true.

Anonymous said...

There were no planes. People on the ground saw missiles.

Anonymous said...

"There were no planes. People on the ground saw missiles."

There were no planes. Actors on the ground saw missiles.

Fixed

:)

Anonymous said...

Jimmy and Anon,

I think my overarching point is this, unless I am there to witness it first hand myself(eyewitnesses cannot be trusted either) I do not believe any source of information be it the internet, media, bloggers, alternate news sources.

There are new terms now (cointelpro, shill, false flag, disinfo)and a lot of people making money and enjoying five minutes of fame in all of this modern day information and mayhem. This person makes this claim with all this research and then another person comes along and refutes all that information, all the while they are calling each other names. Not a very edifying place to be spending my time. From my perspective it seems Lucifer/Satan and his followers have down a great job creating chaos and confusion and unfortunately many "awake" Christians are caught up in all this stuff. Why?

That is the sad reality of the world we live in.

Maybe there were planes, maybe there were missiles, there is no way for me sitting in my kitchen in Toronto, Canada to verify any of the information that is on the media or the internet and ultimately I am not sure that it has any bearing on my walk as a Christian.

I know there is a ton of deception in this world secular and in religion, but my interest in this is not related to my testimony and I rarely speak of it with others, I have no proof, and in my heart it does a great disservice to my testimony because the Truth of the gospel gets muddled in all this, and I think there is need for caution.

If I was asked, do you think planes crashed into the twin towers? I probably would just say I really do not know what happened on that day and who was responsible because I was not there and I was not involved.

If I said anything else I would be lying which again as a Christian I should not do,I could say there are various theories, this one seems plausible to me based on this information. I cannot as a Christian make a statement of fact on something that is open to so much deception I personally just think that is wrong.

IMHO,
Angela Lina

Anonymous said...

Well, I am sure that there were no planes. I am positive about it, and since Christians are not to lie, then I would be lying to say otherwise. It has nothing to do with being a Christian or preaching the Gospel anyway, any more than recipes for apple pie affect those things.

Jimmy said...

"I think my overarching point is this, unless I am there to witness it first hand myself(eyewitnesses cannot be trusted either) I do not believe any source of information be it the internet, media, bloggers, alternate news sources. "



Do you know you are contradicting yourself?

You deny no planes. You insinuate it is a false flag but there were clearly planes, because you saw it on TV. Clearly you form your opinion from these same sources you claim to not derive belief from.

I didn't come here to convince you of anything.

Look into it yourself or don't.

My thought was that maybe 1 person would read the comments and go discover the truth for themselves, and that would be a victory.

Angela you have been railing anyone here that has what you deem to believe crazy theories. One post you belittle conspiracy theorists and describe how these theories hurt christianity and the next post you half-heartedly support the idea only after you were asked to not use the term.

"If I was asked, do you think planes crashed into the twin towers? I probably would just say I really do not know what happened on that day and who was responsible because I was not there and I was not involved"

Just a few days ago you said that the no plane theory was an affront and direct assault on Christianity. Are you in the process of changing your mind or ? I can dig up your comments if you'd like?

.

Anonymous said...


Jimmy,
Thank you for your feedback, I will review my comments, it is unfortunate if they seem contradictory, however I often do not proofread to make sure my point is as clear as what I am trying to say.

I do very surely believe that a Christian's expressed beliefs about currents events/news and why and how they happen(not happen as in the no plane belief) does affect how people relate to the gospel message when we witness and it is far more serious than a recipe for apple pie.

Unfortunately, I cannot recreate history and observe it directly myself so where would you suggest I find this incontrovertible evidence that there were no planes is it Simon Shack or do you have a different source?

Angela