Wednesday, July 23, 2014

Billy Graham's Grandson Tullian Tchividjian



Signaling to those in the know who he really works for? The crossed arms Pharoah style making an "X" was a bit much at 23 seconds in.

Here was the latest with him, did he discuss any of this with Grandpa since Billy Graham pushed the religious right for 60 years?

Billy Graham's grandson: 'Evangelicals hurt by their association with religious right'

You know the powers that be always use the grandchildren or adult children for a pendulum shift.

20 comments:

giblets said...

I wonder if that's the well known "nutz mctaffy" from the conspiracy forums? Claimed he was BG's grandkid as well.

Within His Word said...

This guy (not going to bother trying to spell his name) is just another calvinist false teacher. And since he never repudiated the false teachings and catholic collaboration of his granddaddy, then he is totally a false teacher on every count.

Since he is in Fort Lauderdale, he stands to increase attendance and influence since Bob Coy is now golfing full time. So expect to have to spell his name and hear from him more in the future.

Bible Believer said...

I agree he is a false teacher not for even standing against his grandfather's false teachings. I always though he was more Calvinistic. Didn't he preach once as a guest at Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale, yes I suppose that church market is far more open now. He has one of the hardest to spell names in the world LOL I had just go copy and paste it.

Anonymous said...

I've listened 3 times and I can't make out what he's saying at the point where he crosses his arms. Can someone tell me? I do not like when people tell about "having it out with God" because while I have hit my lows over the years where I am mad at God about how bad things felt or were going, I would NEVER use that as a ministry platform!!! I have always felt ashamed after my tantrums before God and I have always realized that I was wrong, my perspective, my thinking, my very act of speaking to Him angrily. I don't think God takes it lightly when humans talk to him like we've "had it with Him" and to say you are a minister of God and then say that you had that kind of experience with God and then came to some good conclusion from it that you are now using as your ministry message, is definitely of Satan. On a side note, I wonder what kind of self-tanner this man uses, I want to make sure I don't buy it, it looks as fake as his message is . . . . .LOL

Blessings,
Lori

txwildflower said...

Thanks, Bible Believer, for posting this. I am grieved to see Tullian so clearly broadcasting his loyalties. My only familiarity with him up to this point was as a pastor speaking out on behalf of victims of sexual abuse and cover-up in evangelical churches (such as the recent Sovereign Grace Ministries scandal).

I guess it stands to reason that he is false, considering where I have seen him promoted --- primarily on blogs like TheWartburgWatch and SpiritualSoundingBoard. I started following these blogs because I have a heart for ministry to survivors of spiritual/sexual abuse, and they essentially minister to abuse survivors via their discussion forums. But I can hardly bear to visit them anymore because I really don't know what gospel they are presenting.

Anonymous said...

"I've listened 3 times and I can't make out what he's saying at the point where he crosses his arms."

I think that he says "all of us do it".

Anonymous said...

This link, 'The Heresy of Tullian
Tchividjian and the New Calvinists', explains how Tullian promotes a false version of Christianity where, 'everything is grace man', and therefore you don't need to do anything and neither, according to Tullian is there any need to grow! What heresy!

http://5ptsalt.com/2012/08/28/the-heresy-of-tullian-tchividjian/

M Hopkins said...

He is scary looking! Anonymous, I agree, while I have been very frustrated, its still "Thy will be done", I am not going to "have it out with God". Its called "Fear of the Lord is the beginning of Wisdom". Its obvious these false shepherds lack wisdom.

M Hopkins said...

He is scary looking! Anonymous, I agree, while I have been very frustrated, its still "Thy will be done", I am not going to "have it out with God". Its called "Fear of the Lord is the beginning of Wisdom". Its obvious these false shepherds lack wisdom.

N4TM said...

Hey BB, I'm glad I swung by here before I put out my next post. I was here the other day and read the one on Tom Horn. Then as I was doing a research dig on something totally unrelated I found a quote from Franklin Graham that was eerily similar to Horn's line of thinking. Anyway, I will look into BG's grandson too. There seems to be a "push" from these upper echelon's to instigate Christian martyrdom. And that my friend is Satanic not Christ like.

Bible Believer said...

N4TM, I am glad you saw this, I will have to check out your blog today. Yes if Graham is parroting Horn or the other way around to push false Christian martyrdom, that is something to look at. It is Satanic. I will look into this issue more

LynnHuston said...

Can someone please tell me what's going on with this video?? (At the 10-second mark, and again at the 16-second mark.) First it chops up TT's statement; then it cuts away to a totally unrelated scene and back. (Say what?!?)

Are we gonna overlook this and treat the video as if it's whole and unspliced?

How can we have a serious conversation about such an evidently tampered-with video?

I think it's without question that an occult signal was thrown to *the powers that be* when Tullian Tchividjian crossed his wrists at his chest (SO unnatural!), but I'm not comfortable responding to this video in its current state. We need the original footage, not this quirky version of it.

My concerns is that it undermines our credibility to be found commenting on something so strangely spliced. I mean, splicing has its place, but this is not an acceptable example...

Can the original footage be located and a suitable portion be presented? That'd be great. Thanks!

Bible Believer said...

here is another video of him on tbn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgbTVWh0kXI

Ill try and look around for the video that matches this clip.

Aka Alert said...

LOL, I heard about this episode recently. Someone close to me saw it and said that she thought TT looked hyper and crazed, and didn't make much sense. Now I know what she was talking about.

Also, the comment on the Wartburg Watch blog... I'm so glad someone brought that up. I too have read that blog originally because of the so-called support they show abuse victims. In my opinion, this is their cover story. They are every bit as much of a bully as they people they claim to stand against. They promote a cult following and are very cruel and abusive to Christians who defend the Bible on the blog and especially those who believe in a literal creation (historical Adam & Eve, recent creation etc.). I know for sure that there is confusion at that blog about mankind being in need of salvation from SIN. They get all testy about man being sinful, and needing to repent of sins.

But also….while some of the comments are ok and respectful, some comments are allowed to remain posted that include blasphemy, mocking and gleeful hatred. I saw mocking of the Holy Spirit in one comment that was allowed to remain. NOT A GOOD IDEA. They've even had comments that sounded like threats against certain people, which the blog owners later realized went too far and they tried to smooth things over.

The Bible is ignored or barely tolerated, however STAR TREK wisdom is revered. Spock and Capt. Kirk are quoted frequently. But Jesus? Not so much.

The cult part of the blog is evident in that the 2 blog "Divas" as they like to call themselves, accept all kinds of over-the-top flattery and submissive groveling from their commenters. Those regular commenters know that it’s in their best interest to kiss-up, or get ignored. This is a sure sign that the Wartburg Watch blog is unhealthy and unbiblical.

Bible Believer said...

I've read Wartburg Watch before too, and was glad they defended abuse victims but something seemed off to me about the place. They didn't seem to be bible believing Christians but church system [mainstream?] Christians to me.

They are pro-Roman Catholic and ecumenical which had me bow out of the place long ago.

http://thewartburgwatch.com/2014/07/21/9-marks-deeply-disturbing-remarks-aimed-at-roman-catholics-and-intervarsity/

"(Quick note: A comment was made at TGC under a 9 Marks post by a "dee." That was not me. I only rarely comment at other websites since I have a pretty good bully pulpit here.)

Once again, we have a reader to thank for drawing our attention to an article posted on 9 Marks. When I first read the comment, I removed it from our site, thinking that the reader must be making up such a derogatory statement. In other words, I couldn't believe that even 9 Marks would say such a thing.

Well, he was telling the truth. I then found another 9 Marks article that seems to indicate that there is a concerning lack of respect for both our Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox friends. Just so you understand my bias, my father was Russian Orthodox. Although he was not a devout man until the very last weeks of his life, I grew up attending the festivals and celebrations. I knew some deeply committed Christians in that setting. I also have been privileged to know a number of Catholic priests. Fr Bryan Ochs has commented on this blog. Frankly, some of them have struck me as more godly than some of the megachurch stars and their fanboys.

I guess this might sum up my position on this subject. I believe that there are devout Christians present in the Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox and 9 Marks churches, SBC churches, PCA churches and also among those who do not attend church. I also believe that there are nonbelievers in all of these entities. (Dee hits the ground, incoming……….) "

Bible Believer said...

I've read Wartburg Watch before too, and was glad they defended abuse victims but something seemed off to me about the place. They didn't seem to be bible believing Christians but church system [mainstream?] Christians to me.

They are pro-Roman Catholic and ecumenical which had me bow out of the place long ago.

http://thewartburgwatch.com/2014/07/21/9-marks-deeply-disturbing-remarks-aimed-at-roman-catholics-and-intervarsity/

"(Quick note: A comment was made at TGC under a 9 Marks post by a "dee." That was not me. I only rarely comment at other websites since I have a pretty good bully pulpit here.)

Once again, we have a reader to thank for drawing our attention to an article posted on 9 Marks. When I first read the comment, I removed it from our site, thinking that the reader must be making up such a derogatory statement. In other words, I couldn't believe that even 9 Marks would say such a thing.

Well, he was telling the truth. I then found another 9 Marks article that seems to indicate that there is a concerning lack of respect for both our Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox friends. Just so you understand my bias, my father was Russian Orthodox. Although he was not a devout man until the very last weeks of his life, I grew up attending the festivals and celebrations. I knew some deeply committed Christians in that setting. I also have been privileged to know a number of Catholic priests. Fr Bryan Ochs has commented on this blog. Frankly, some of them have struck me as more godly than some of the megachurch stars and their fanboys.

I guess this might sum up my position on this subject. I believe that there are devout Christians present in the Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox and 9 Marks churches, SBC churches, PCA churches and also among those who do not attend church. I also believe that there are nonbelievers in all of these entities. (Dee hits the ground, incoming……….) "

Bible Believer said...

I've read Wartburg Watch before too, and was glad they defended abuse victims but something seemed off to me about the place. They didn't seem to be bible believing Christians but church system [mainstream?] Christians to me.

They are pro-Roman Catholic and ecumenical which had me bow out of the place long ago.

http://thewartburgwatch.com/2014/07/21/9-marks-deeply-disturbing-remarks-aimed-at-roman-catholics-and-intervarsity/

"(Quick note: A comment was made at TGC under a 9 Marks post by a "dee." That was not me. I only rarely comment at other websites since I have a pretty good bully pulpit here.)

Once again, we have a reader to thank for drawing our attention to an article posted on 9 Marks. When I first read the comment, I removed it from our site, thinking that the reader must be making up such a derogatory statement. In other words, I couldn't believe that even 9 Marks would say such a thing.

Well, he was telling the truth. I then found another 9 Marks article that seems to indicate that there is a concerning lack of respect for both our Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox friends. Just so you understand my bias, my father was Russian Orthodox. Although he was not a devout man until the very last weeks of his life, I grew up attending the festivals and celebrations. I knew some deeply committed Christians in that setting. I also have been privileged to know a number of Catholic priests. Fr Bryan Ochs has commented on this blog. Frankly, some of them have struck me as more godly than some of the megachurch stars and their fanboys.

I guess this might sum up my position on this subject. I believe that there are devout Christians present in the Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox and 9 Marks churches, SBC churches, PCA churches and also among those who do not attend church. I also believe that there are nonbelievers in all of these entities. (Dee hits the ground, incoming……….) "

Bible Believer said...

That post alone is enough to run from the place but I saw the same even earlier on. I am glad you figured out it was not website where you would get truth.

txwildflower said...

Yep. I think I was led to TWW for a season so I could learn about some of the abuse issues, but I learned what I needed to learn and have moved on! That post about the RCC was the last straw for me.

By the way, I incorrectly stated in my first comment that TWW promotes Tullian T. It's actually his brother, Boz T., who started the organization G.R.A.C.E. (Godly Response to Abuse in the Christian Environment) to advocate for abuse victims and who is promoted on TWW and elsewhere. I saw the last name and thought it was the same guy.

I haven't investigated whether Boz has displayed symbols/hand signs in his public speaking. But it's a good chance he is connected as his brother is. It would be more surprising if he weren't, I suppose...but the Father may still have one who belongs to Him even in the Graham family, who knows! I've read some of Boz's statements against abuse and cover-up in the church, and thought they were very good and seemed to be spoken from the heart.

And yet the logo for G.R.A.C.E. has a bold pyramid-shaped capital A, front and center on the web homepage...so there is no getting around it with these ministries. They all work for the same master and just use different fronts (feeding the hungry, protecting the abused) to deceive the sheep.

txwildflower said...

Not to mention the enormous photo of the child with ONE EYE showing, right there on the home page. It makes me so sad and angry. Does ANYONE know of ANY ministries to victims of abuse in the churches that are NOT corrupted and covering up their own evil with a false gospel??