Tuesday, June 10, 2014

Cruelty to the Homeless and Poor Growing



What happens if someone falls on those things? That adds another danger to the elderly and disabled. I've seen this picture too. What if someone's car breaks down or there is an accident and they can't even sit down or lay down?

This is from China:

 


Some of these things endanger even the non-homeless such as disabled or elderly people who may need a higher place to sit up on rather then the ground. This is total evil covering things with spikes.

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I think in the case of feeding the homeless, obedience to God rather then laws of man come first. I do not advocate breaking the law, but what would you do if you were led by God to feed a homeless person? Would you at least stand up against an unjust law? This church did. Denying a starving person, food or help is wrong. The homeless today are not just substance abusers or the mentally ill, and they should be helped too, but families and others who have lost jobs and the ability to take care of themselves. With the rising costs of housing, homelessness is far more of a risk then ever before. One job loss today anyone can end up homeless.

Putting spikes on things just shows how more evil society is growing.

Proverbs 19:17- He that hath pity upon the poor lendeth unto the LORD; and that which he hath given will he pay him again.

37 comments:

Anonymous said...

"I think in the case of feeding the homeless, obedience to God rather then laws of man come first"

You should think twice about statements like this. It reeks of hypocrisy and darkness.

Bible Believer said...

Why is that darkness?

I don't want anyone to break the law, but if you are led by God to feed a homeless person, what would you do?

http://downtrend.com/james/north-carolina-church-group-threatened-with-arrest-for-feeding-the-homeless-stands-strong/

Lillianna White said...

"Sell your possessions and give to those in need. This will store up treasure for you in heaven! And the purses of heaven never get old or develop holes. Your treasure will be safe; no thief can steal it and no moth can destroy it."
Luke 12;33
Words of Jesus.
I agree with Jesus (and BB).

To anon:
YOU should think once before statements like yours, they reek of hypocrisy and darkness.

To any republicans out there:

Tell me, is it good or evil to help the poor? Is it of the light, or the darkness?

Hint: Jesus advocated for helping the poor.

Answer: Goodness and light.

Hear the word of the Lord from Isaiah 58; 6-12: (o ye ol' republicans!)

6 Is not this the fast that I have chosen: to loose the bonds of wickedness, to undo the bands of the yoke, and to let the oppressed go free, and that ye break every yoke?

7 Is it not to deal thy bread to the hungry, and that thou bring the poor that are cast out to thy house? when thou seest the naked, that thou cover him; and that thou hide not thyself from thine own flesh?

8 Then shall thy light break forth as the morning, and thy healing shall spring forth speedily; and thy righteousness shall go before thee; the glory of Jehovah shall by thy rearward.

9 Then shalt thou call, and Jehovah will answer; thou shalt cry, and he will say, Here I am. If thou take away from the midst of thee the yoke, the putting forth of the finger, and speaking wickedly;

10 and if thou draw out thy soul to the hungry, and satisfy the afflicted soul: then shall thy light rise in darkness, and thine obscurity be as the noonday;

11 and Jehovah will guide thee continually, and satisfy thy soul in dry places, and make strong thy bones; and thou shalt be like a watered garden, and like a spring of water, whose waters fail not.

12 And they that shall be of thee shall build the old waste places; thou shalt raise up the foundations of many generations; and thou shalt be called The repairer of the breach, The restorer of paths to dwell in.

(I can testify that this is all true as I do help the homeless and other oppressed people.)

Also, yes, always obey God over anyone or anything else. Definitely.

(:
Blessings to you BB!
P.S. I have been praying for you too!

Anonymous said...

This is just wrong and very sad. I think a good lawyer could do wonders with a bad situation from this. I do not where Anon is coming from as I took what you said as basically a restatement of Acts 5:29 - Don

Lillianna White said...

I agree Don, Acts 5; 29 says it all.

We must obey God first, period. In doing this, we will fulfill every other good law. If a bad law lies in contradiction, we must obey God's law instead. That concerns issues of morality of course, not civil traffic laws or such things that are neither here nor there.

I heard that they are planning on using and twisting Romans 13 for their NWO purposes also, so just remember: Acts 5; 29

Always in context is the key!

I just can't believe how backwards that anon person's comment is, just the opposite from what God's word says. It's incredible what pops up here.

Leahlive said...

BB, Don and Lilliana, I am so glad to see these scriptures being identified. I have struggled for some time with trying reconcile how the scripture of Romans 13 should be interpreted. When I was first being awakened, I spoke out to the ones that the Lord had directed me to as teachers and fellow brothers and sisters. It was a healing ministry. I spent a great deal of time along side these people and saw some as spiritual mothers and fathers.

But when my spiritual eyes started to open to the lies of the wolves that Christianites follow, as well as the holidays, that are considered Holy Days, such as Christmas, like a naive child, I spoke out. I thought this would be received with gratitude that they had missed something that had been revealed to me to share with them.

I have written to you about this before BB how I was shocked and may have cried at how I was lashed out at for saying anything about Christmas etc. It was nasty.

These "elders" than tried to coral me into the scripture mentality that you spoke of Lilliana, in Romans 13. Their course outline started with how we need to be obedient to those in authority and submit ourselves to all those that God had appointed because it was God that put them in authority and it would be going against God to speak out against.

As I have continued to do, I was pointing out the stuff that I have seen the government and the false teachers, leading people away from truth and freedom, on Facebook posts etc. I have been reprimanded several times by the groups of Christians that I once walked with and scolded for speaking out against God's anointed.

I remember walking in the Christianite way, and really battling with what my spirit was telling me as I read the word and did my research because of the unreconciliation between the two that I was discovering. I could start to see how the mainstream Christian walk had brainwashed the masses into believing that you are not supposed to speak out to anyone in authority because God had put them there and to speak out was going against God.

This was a huge internal battle for me. Until one time at a pot luck one of them was up front talking about how their healing ministry was a safe place for people to address their hurts etc. when God spoke to me clearly and said that this was NOT a safe place for me. These people that are representative to me of the whole Chrisianite movement, which is to follow the purpose driven life, find a ministry within the body where you can make money off of the bride and move within that body making merchandise of the free gifts given to us by our Lord and savior, call it "GODLY" and now you are going about doing the Lords' work.

Leahlive said...

I hope this makes sense, how I have explained it, but it all came under the guise of not speaking out to anyone in authority as you yourself were coming against God.

So when I went with a new "underground" church and we were out feeding the homeless and stepping out of the whole "mammon" system so much started to awaken for me. Satan has brainwashed the masses already under the twisting of Romans 13 and as the body of Christ is being ushered into this One World order, the scriptures to hush anyone is Romans 13. Do as your government says. Do as the Osteen, Copeland, Meyer puppet tells you and when the time is right they will not know how to stand against the conflict between God and man. The body has been brainwashed to believe they must do whatever the government tells them.

I received a nasty email from one woman I considered a close sister, pointing out to me how she was going down this road before like I was and that she met her husband and realized it was wrong and that I must keep my mouth shut and obey the government. I sent back the words "And Government was on His Shoulders".

This is what the Lord revealed to me not man. And you are so right Lilliana that Romans 13 mentality is being used to further the NWO agenda and I as a relatively new believer cried myself to sleep many a night not knowing if what I was understanding was going against God or for Him. Praise God for showing me the truth, that following Him is becoming more and more separation from what man in authority is telling us we must do and knowing in our spirit what God would have us do.

I am in no way advocating being disobedient to the law for the sake of disobedience but when they are telling us we must turn in our fellow Christians or die or so many other scenarios that we are bound to encounter as their agenda moves forward, what I am now comfortable with, that I know in my spirit, is to follow God not man.

Blessings, Leah

Anonymous said...

Greetings in Christ,

The biggest problem for the homeless is not lack of food...it's lack of safe shelters.

www.turnanewleaf.org

JL, humble slave of El Elyon

Anonymous said...

My father used to put spikes similar to those in his ground cover around the house, to keep the dogs out.So,there mentality is to treat the homeless like animals.This is so sad and shameful.

Steve B said...

Anon @ 6/10/14 1:23pm

"You should think twice about statements like this. It reeks of hypocrisy and darkness." [in regard to obeying God over the laws of man]

Tell that to Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego. When the laws of men told them to disobey God, they told the king no, and God saved them from death.

We are to follow the laws of men UNLESS they contradict the Word of God.

Lillianna White said...

Wow Leah!

Praise God that He brought you into the light! It's worse out there than I thought then.

They are lying to you, always listen to God's Spirit above all else. Thank God you see it now too! When I got saved He revealed such things to me too. There are two kingdoms, God and the devil (light and darkness, etc.). Those who serve satan rise to the top. Remember how stars sell their souls to the devil for fame? It's a dynamic that is everywhere with power and money and fame with few exceptions. The good are usually oppressed, etc.
(:
We must always obey God first, and yes, they are using verses like Romans 13 for the NWO agenda big time! It's not about 'going against the law,' it's about obeying God. Do that and all else that should will fall into place. When there is a contradiction we must obey God.
It's just the perspective of it all. The same with husbands or parents, government, boss, etc. We must obey God rather than man when a contradiction arises.
God is supreme. (:
If they are in line with God too, then all is well! Otherwise we must follow God.

Now, God allows certain things, but that is not the same as 'he put them there and we should therefore obey them'! That is their lie from hell.

Look at Hitler, Stalin, and others. Did you know that the same thing is happening today as in Nazi Germany? Did you know that the churches went right along with the Holocaust without uttering a word of protest because they had been brainwashed in the same exact way? Scary, huh?!

Look at the story of Daniel in chapter 3, where his 3 friends refused to bow down to the devil's idol and they WENT AGAINST the government by the WILL OF GOD. They were persecuted (but preserved in that case). They said they must obey God rather than man also.

When Christians are persecuted, it is because they share the gospel in nations where it is illegal, because they must obey God rather than man. (Like Peter in Acts 5, etc.)

Then, there are the many verses in the bible that state that the earth is under the control of the devil! You won't hear that in church! Yes, God is sovereign, but He allows things for the purposes of His glory. (:

"We know that we are from God and that the whole world lies under the control of the evil one." 1 John 5; 19
John's epistles are a great source for such info. (; Also John and Luke's gospels.

Matthew 4; 8-11:
Again, the devil took Him to a very high mountain and showed Him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory; and he said to Him, “All these things I will give You, if You fall down and worship me.” Then Jesus said to him, “Go, Satan! For it is written, ‘You shall worship the Lord your God, and serve Him only.’” Then the devil left Him; and behold, angels came and began to minister to Him.

So here we see:
1. the devil has temporary control for now (till Jesus returns to claim what is His)
2. the devil tempted Jesus with all the kingdoms of the earth (Jesus never said 'no, you don't have them' but answered differently)
3. Jesus refused to bow down (just as Daniel's friends) - always the right answer in such cases... !
4. Jesus answered the best answer ever: Worship God and serve Him only (that ends all arguments)
5. Notice that Jesus always answered Satan with Scripture! So must we my friends.

The battle is real.

MOST IMPORTANT!!!
They are brainwashing the masses now just like during nazi times to obey the government and church leaders and not question them and it's all leading to the worship of antichrist and the devil under the NWO (see Revelation). Yes, we will be here and must respond as Jesus and Daniel's 3 friends:

No, I only worship the Lord of the bible!

No matter what we are threatened with. No matter what guys!

People did resist during the Holocaust and people will again. Just remember, all is to the glory of God. We will understand it better from that perspective in heaven.

Love and blessings to you Leah!!!
(:

Anonymous said...

To those who read this comment....I have been following this blog for quite some time and perhaps my observation may be off, but this is my concern.....

Why do many of the "responders" here constantly and consistently through in a snide comment against "Republicans" as if they are the problem....or filled with hatred against the poor and afflicted? Why do I not see the very same comments railed against the Democrats as if they really "cared more about the soul of man."

As a former waitress, working three jobs just to pay my bills, yes, I had bills to pay as I did not live in a perfect world, or was a hireling in the church system having all of my bills paid for me.....so I had to work for my money....had to eat too you know. While waitressing, I had the pleasure of meeting some amazing people, both Republicans and Democrats. That was back in the day when I was politically charged and made the extra efforts of getting to know "who was who" in the community.

I have to honestly say that the Republicans were more generous with their tipping that those stingy Democrats. I guess it is easier to punish those hard working people earning a living and paying bills just like I do with huge taxes and in many cases "stealing from those who work and give according to God's Word" to freely hand out to worthless causes....then appear pious to the public, when indeed, their own Democratic pockets are tightly zipped!

We cannot assume Democrats are better "givers" over the Republicans here for I once was a Democrat, then turned Republican, and as of 3 years now having been shown the truth concerning our Scriptures, affiliate with no political party. I cannot find the Scriptures where it says that Jesus and His disciples/apostles were Democrat, Republican, liberal or conservative.....I just cannot find them in my Bible. Or where they joined hands with the governments of their day to solve all of the world's problems.

With that said, I believe I have been freed from the bondage of human labeling and the darkness that resides within politically charged churches and religious systems and can give freely where God, the Holy Spirit, leads......
Oh what freedom there is when one gives in secret without a hint of the flesh!

After all, our faith, hope, and trust is in Jesus and His teachings, is it not? And if my comments are in err, then I will choose to err on the side of my LORD and Savior, Jesus Christ.

Oh, those terrible Republicans.....and may I add Democrats too!

Anonymous said...

We are to obey the Lord our God in all things and if we perish, we perish. The Lord will give us the strength and courage to do so. We are not here to live a long life but to do the will of God and in doing that, persecution usually comes. We need to be ready to lay it all down! God honours those who honour Him.

Anonymous said...

@Leah, Personally I think of it like this. My wife and I have been together for a long time, but if I step out of line with the Lord I want her to follow Him not me. In doing so she shows me greater respect by pulling me back on track. Then when I realign, the proper order will resume. (1 Corinthians 11:3) - Don

Anonymous said...

You know what bothers me? Pushy, mouthy women.

"To any republicans out there:"

There is only one party. The republicans are only controlled opposition.

"(I can testify that this is all true as I do help the homeless and other oppressed people.)"

Yes, like oppressed white, christian, males. Ye ol' democrats.

Bible Believer said...

Romans 13 is misinterpreted to the max by false preachers, it does not mean blindly obey governments. Did those martyred during the Inquisitions obey the government? I think it is one of the most abused verses out there.

The false bibles have it reworded too.

13 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.

{NOT HUMANS, BUT HIGHER POWERS MEANING GOD Read middle line, for there is no power but of God.

2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.

{Maybe mistakenly believe this power is GOVT and not GODs}

3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:

{SAYS HERE RULERS ARE A TERROR TO EVIL WORKS< many are not good}

4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.

5 Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.

6 For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing.

7 Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.

8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.

9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

11 And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed.

12 The night is far spent, the day is at hand: let us therefore cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armour of light.

13 Let us walk honestly, as in the day; not in rioting and drunkenness, not in chambering and wantonness, not in strife and envying.

14 But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof.

Nothing there about blind obedience to evil rulers.

Bible Believer said...

I go into more depth here. I believe we are to obey the law but if a law goes against God's commandments {ie when they order people to take the mark, etc} then it's a different deal biblically.

http://galatiansfour.blogspot.com/2011/01/politics-and-christian-deceit-of-this.html

Bible Believer said...

Why on earth would you defend the Republican party anon, when I have exposed them as the right side of the new world order and pushing along the same agenda as the Democrats for globalism and the police state? Sorry to be blunt but most readers here see through the right/left matrix and two giant party lies.

Both parties are terrible. The Democratic party is just as bad as the Republican, I have written this many times and I am no fan of Hillary Clinton and pals either. I have shown that the same luciferian systems operate behind both parties, your beloved Republican party at the high levels is full of freemasons and Knights of Maltas.


Are there nice regular Republicans? Sure there are. Some Democrats too. You sound like you are deceived by the Republican blame the poor program but then this is the same party that sent trillions overseas for wars along with all the outsourced jobs. Soon there will be few waitresses, I am seeing restaurants close all over the place in my own community as unemployed people do not eat out too much. I suppose they will go on welfare but then you will call them the problem when the whole system has been set up this way.

You seem to realize that the political system is wicked and of this world but remember they are teaching people things not in the Bible, the whole blame the poor thing is not in there.

Bible Believer said...

Is it Democrat now to talk about the poor and defend them?

I'm just throwing that out there given the direction the conversation went.

Look at how the NWO is indoctrinating about the poor as the country grows more poor.

http://galatiansfour.blogspot.com/2010/06/being-poor-in-american-society-can-be.html

I agree about persecution. If God leads me to feed someone, then so be it. I have needed help in my life from the other direction as well.

Bible Believer said...

Both parties hate the poor from the high levels. The days of the Democrat party being for the "working man" are long over. That was a shell game anyhow. They are members of the 1% too. The globalists hate the poor in general worldwide, they hate the American poor. The globalists desire to work for their father Satan and build up as much personal wealth as possible.

Lillianna White said...

I totally agree BB!

The only reason I call 'em out when it comes to the Republicans is because I lived through so much abuse from them all my life... and this in church!

I am neither Democrat nor Republican nor do I belong to any political party. I see through the puppet game and don't even vote in most cases. I also know how both parties are equally corrupted and hailed their allegiance to the rich and globalist NWO agenda, now more than ever.

I grew up poor. My parents divorced (long story) and I grew up with a single working mom. I also went through many other hardships I will spare you the telling of. I went hungry as a child. I wasn't clothed properly. At times we were homeless. None of this was my fault (a child) nor my mother's. Yet, all I saw around me was the Republican president praise the rich and hand over everything to them, usher in trickle down economics which basically kept all the money for the rich. He let the mentally ill out of their shelters and did away with many safety nets. These are well documented facts. It was the Democrats who at least claimed to be for the working poor and at least tried to do something for others, not the churches. The Republicans decried taxes, but without a tax system, we don't have a society. Hello? Roads, bridges, the sick and elderly, public education that is free, and so on??? I knew Democrats can't solve all the world's problems, but that doesn't mean a society should lie around and lamely do nothing for the oppressed, just throw up their hands, and say, 'oh well!' They can at least model things after the way Israel was set up economically in the OT. Most are unaware of that too...
food was provided for the widows and orphans for free! But oh no! We can't have that! That would be... welfare!!! Lord forbid!

Yet, all churches I ever saw were always bowing to the Republican platform, if you were not Republican you were taken out and shot behind the church (or the equivalent of it) and most began to doubt your salvation. All this while the same problems continued. I was there, I saw it firsthand. The vote Republican propaganda. The support the troops no matter where or what speeches. Whatever the government stand is was their stand too. Praise for the Republican politicians, but literal hatred for those bloody liberal democrats who dared stand with the working class because after all, if they are poor, it's their own fault. Word of faith preachers did more damage of course with their prosperity gospel. I once heard a calvary chapel pastor say that 'we din't have any rights.' (Human rights). I was like... huh? What is this guy on!? and similar garbage. Of course I was against abortion, but I was no Republican!

No one ever helped the poor, the orphans, or anyone. (I did, very few others.) It was all about remodeling their fancy homes and going to the salon. Yet if you simply google: bible verses, helping the poor, there is an avalanche. But, you never heard about those, and other verses were conveniently avoided also.

So I just keep things in a balanced perspective. They did enough 'hating on' the others to last 1000 lifetimes, so what is a little drop in the bucket here and there in the other direction to keep people on their toes?

I apologize not.
I am bothered by pushy, mouthy men who think they are the only ones who know anything.

And I didn't see such generosity coming from them in general or individually, but glad you were an exception to the rule when it came to tips.



Anonymous said...

National elections are all rigged, you will only get "their" candidates. Remember Bush and Kerry, so select your favorite Bonesmen. Better to concentrate at the local and state levels. Beyond all that, let your blessed hope be in the good Lord for only He is true and faithful. Psalm 33:4 - Don

Anonymous said...

"You should think twice about statements like this. It reeks of hypocrisy and darkness"

Darkness??for loving your neighbor as yourself.
Whose the one in darkness?

Anonymous said...

The court systems worships "Saturn", its best to stay out of this entire thing. If you find yourself in these courts of rules of procedures (mens tradition), you need to be aware of all the gods they worship.
If you worship the true one,your not going to be able to coexist with anyone in there, that being Judges, and Lawyers. They are all on the same path to destruction. By experience, when you confront them, they make your life a living hell.

Anonymous said...

Stealing from the poor, is a complete contradiction of God's laws.

Because those who followed Jesus sayings of Deuteronomy 15, to have debts forgiven every 7 years etc...Jesus said the poor would always be with them, in other words, your gonna have to take care of them, due to our own lack of obedience to God's laws.

You cannot have two Masters, God's laws or mans traditions (lawlessness) it won't work. You have to choose one side or the other.

Anonymous said...

the left and the right wing are both attached to the same beast!!

servant4life

Lillianna White said...

Great comments!

Yes, if a person does not love their neighbor as themselves, they are the ones in darkness.

And please don't ask 'who is my neighbor?' ! ((;

I totally agree about the politics, it's all rigged, one puppetmaster pulling both sides of the strings.

Blessings!

Lillianna White said...

Hi BB!

By the way, I found an article about an atheist who became born again. I know you were looking for that earlier. It is on the
Christian Research Network site, just scroll down and it's dated June 12 and is about a professor who was hired as an atheist, became a born again Christian, and was discriminated against when up for tenure but won the suit.

Some dumb illogical comments follow as always, like one guy comparing this discrimination to the way they are regulating college clubs now (that Christian clubs must admit gays), totally different burrito here, one is supposed to be neutral on religion and is a public institution of the state, the other is a private club for religion. These people just don't get it, private clubs do have the right to decide under different criteria, and his religion is irrelevant to his job, obviously this is religious discrimination! Whatever happened to 'does not have the right to discriminate based on religion...'?

It is getting worse out there by the minute due to the gaystapo agenda to the point that they can't even have an official above ground legitimate Christian club on a college campus in the US anymore! We, bible believing Christians (and God's truth of course, etc., but we represent Him) are the target and we need to stand firm and not back down or compromise our values.

I know it's off topic but that you were looking for such a case. There have to be more out there but you just don't hear it everyday in the media either.

Anonymous said...

The spikes have been removed by now:
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-27832298

Bible Believer said...

Hey I faced abuse from Republicans too. If you are poor, you are considered slime by some of the most brainwashed among them. I see through the shell game too and since this blog began wrote, about the right and left deception. They are moving everyone to the same place, the globalism and allegiance to the Luciferians.
That is too bad you grew up poor as a child, I became poor as an adult, and actually had the inverse--upper middle class, which oddly in some ways, I believe it is better to be poor as a child, if you survive it and don't suffer too many medical problems, because then you can build resiliency and know how to survive. The dull suburban life, with parents who could afford roast beef at every dinner if they wanted and shopping til they dropped didn't teach many lessons for what later awaited me.

Its hard to watch Republicans tell people who are poor, they all deserve it, or you see the useful deceived all going rah rah, while they blame the poor and empty out the tills for their globalist wars. Hey have you kept track of what is happening in Iraq? Ten years down the drain, for WHAT? The place is already falling apart and into chaos.

Trickle down was one of the biggest lies going. Reagan was as NWO as the rest of them. Funny how Christians loved the guy while his wife and him consulted the astrologers on every next step.

I think the Democrats pretended to be for the poor and threw a few crumbs to build up their voter base, but while the reputation has lasted, it doesn't apply now, that way Satan could get the oppressed poor to sign on for abortion, gay rights and all the other evil nonsense that comes with the Democrat party.


I tire of the anti-welfare talk and those who act like jobs can be plucked off trees, hey it served as good cover up didn't it while the elites here were busy destroying the economy and stealing from the tax payer via bail-outs!

You know it would be different if these people and well perhaps a few do, come up with alternatives.

If you read my really old stuff on this blog, in my old church, I loved them dearly but some of them were getting suckered into the Republican party and all that nonsense. There are still a few who love Glenn Beck. With the new folks, I tell them both parties are false, and talk about what I do here. LOL

I was at least in a rural working poor church back then but have seen the ultra megachurch ones with the middle class and above people.


I agree about the "hating". I wish more would realize they are being played by fools and being told to sign up for their own demise when they go and vote for laws and people that promote oppression, the police state and totalitarianism. The worship the corporation and hate on the poor stuff began in the 1980s but really got rolling in the last 10 years. Even the libertarians who are right about civil rights, still subscribe to this corporations and big business can do no wrong, and most are globalists, believing in the myth known as the free market.
I think there is less of the gung-ho Republicanism in Christian circles, but maybe because more are realizing the system is rigged. People who knew the two party system was rot were fewer in number. They know we are just going to get another member of the Bush or Clinton crime families this time around.
I understand people voting on local issues, dog catcher, permits, school taxes, but the big time places, they are choosing who to PUT IN.

Yeah thanks for speaking out against darkness guy. I get some weird posts on here. So you are for SPIKES? Why?

Bible Believer said...

Yes the national elections ar rigged, I believe the last 4, the other guy KNEW he was throwing it. you could tell, they weren't even TRYING THAT HARD.

I agree about courts. One has to pray about even entering that den, sometimes it cannot be helped in this sinful world but keep in prayer if you have to deal with the courts and avoid court rooms in general as much as you can. There are a few good ones that do believe in "justice" but there's plenty of corrupt ones.

Yes debts used to be forgiven. All those students now going into debt for equal for house mortgages for mostly useless college degrees where no job comes for them are signing their entire lives over. More people need to warn the young about student loans.

I agree about the left and right.

Thanks for the story of another atheist who became a Christian, yes I think they are more common then admitted out there. I am glad that professor won his suit. many professions now unless you have Kool-Aid drinker beliefs they do not want you anymore. This is one thing that is going to be facing born again Christians more and more.

I think they are turning things topsy turvey, in a totalitarian country, it will be "we will discriminate against you if you do not the RIGHT beliefs". Usually leftist stuff in most circles. yes they are forcing private groups and clubs, to incorporate gays like the Christian baker sued for refusing to bake a gay wedding cake.

I am glad the spikes were removed.

Bible Believer said...

Yes the national elections ar rigged, I believe the last 4, the other guy KNEW he was throwing it. you could tell, they weren't even TRYING THAT HARD.

I agree about courts. One has to pray about even entering that den, sometimes it cannot be helped in this sinful world but keep in prayer if you have to deal with the courts and avoid court rooms in general as much as you can. There are a few good ones that do believe in "justice" but there's plenty of corrupt ones.

Yes debts used to be forgiven. All those students now going into debt for equal for house mortgages for mostly useless college degrees where no job comes for them are signing their entire lives over. More people need to warn the young about student loans.

I agree about the left and right.

Thanks for the story of another atheist who became a Christian, yes I think they are more common then admitted out there. I am glad that professor won his suit. many professions now unless you have Kool-Aid drinker beliefs they do not want you anymore. This is one thing that is going to be facing born again Christians more and more.

I think they are turning things topsy turvey, in a totalitarian country, it will be "we will discriminate against you if you do not the RIGHT beliefs". Usually leftist stuff in most circles. yes they are forcing private groups and clubs, to incorporate gays like the Christian baker sued for refusing to bake a gay wedding cake.

I am glad the spikes were removed.

Anonymous said...

Hey BB are you also Lilianna White (witches name)? Man oh man, if you are will you tell her to take a break. My goodness so tiring! But I could just stop reading the comments here I guess.

Anonymous said...

I would have to agree with Bible Believer. There are numerous verses in the Bible about helping the poor, pitying the poor, showing mercy and compassion on them, giving to them. Verses that say that if we give to the poor, it will be returned to us. Clearly it is a ministry we should all take part in.

Lillianna White said...

Hi BB,

I totally agree with your every word!

Thank you too for caring. (:
It did help a lot too growing up poor, God always watched over me anyway and I have stories to tell that it could only have been God doing it. But you learn a lot, it's a good boot camp. You learn what really matters in life, who your real friends are, how to survive in hard times, which is coming in actually quite handy right now. I have always been poor to one extent or another but God has always come through and even blessed me (I have been able to travel the world for example, all by pennies from heaven and deals that worked out and didn't pay a dime, even was able to go as a missionary this last time!) I fell into that student loan trap too, didn't find a good job even with my perfect grades (not bragging, just making a point) due to corruption, etc., but don't have to pay back the loan thanks to God coming through again, and I also live better than so many rich neighbors because I learned how to live (save, spend money on what matters, find deals and hidden savings, etc.) Being a substitute is actually better in so many ways (God's provision in disguise again!) and instead of being swamped with useless work that only a secular humanist 'human potential' myth subscriber could agree with was possible to achieve (for students and teachers here), I come home and from bargain marts cook homemade scrumptious morsels from scratch (I love to cook), enjoy good health as a result, and look out my apartment window to a lovely San Diego sunrise on most days. Who could ask for more? I just praise and thank God every day!
In the end, who was poor, me, or them?!? The rest is only babbage to maintain from rusting and leave behind when we go. My greatest treasure: God and His love in my heart!!!
(:

Lillianna White said...

Iraq: I think it's more agendas carried out. I think it's all a disguise too, they have been dismantling things since Iraq and all that Arab spring stuff, ever notice how they have all fallen to the radical muslims since then, this is just one more case, like dominoes (or toes of the Babylon statue of Daniel in the last days maybe?) Syria, Iraq, Egypt, Lybia, Afganistan, the list goes on, all along the 'crescent' Mediterranean? For nothing to us, but in their eyes it is probably the exact plan they intended...

Politics: Totally a rigged game, don't even gamble in it. Few see through it with their eyes opened. Local issues are different of course.

Yes, and I heard about that astrology stuff too with Reagan. I also remember he said something like 'I've been rich and I've been poor, and I like rich a whole lot better!' Uh, don't we all? So, what did he do to help more get out of poverty? Trickle down should have been called trickle up.

He also began a lot of deregulation of business which introduced all sorts of corruption and unhindered greed. You need regulation on corporations just like laws to keep criminals from crime. I think most have seen that evidence by now. (Bailing out the banks? How about bailing out the American people by stopping forclusures and mortgages? That would put justice in balance again! But that would be too simple and too fair...)
This Ronnie guy a man of God? Hardly. But the gullible were fooled once again...
and it's like they steal from the poor and give to the rich and then hate on the poor for being poor and blaming them for it. Hypocrites!!!

What so many also don't get is... the big picture. If money is a limited resource (which it is, of course interchangeable into other forms such as resources), and it flows among the wallets of humanity, you can't help the poor without taking from the rich and vice versa. That is why they hate taxes in all forms and pander to the rich because the politicians have been bought out by the interests of the rich, like a harlot selling her soul to the devil... 'help the rich, and I will make you great! Just bow down to mamon and serve me, just a little...' when the bible clearly says to help the poor. Try it people, do a google search on bible verses for 'helping the poor' if you doubt this!
And then along came Bush II, the personification of evil with his villainous sidekick. Pacemaker? He probably had his icy heart cut out and replaced with a mechanical one so he could offer it on an altar to satan. Just sayin'... probably.

The walls are closing in everywhere on Christians, colleges and universities are no exception. And don't think 'Christian' college is the answer, most of them have gone into contemplative mysticism full blown apostasy by now too. Do the research first, as with anything.

To everyone:

"No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and wealth." Matthew 6; 24

And helping the poor is a blessing in itself in many ways, I know.
(:
Blessings to you!

Knowjesustoo said...

My children and I are very saddened by this treatment toward the homeless. We have helped in various ways, whether through church functions or individual acts, and to think one day we could be fined for doing so just astounds! I'm also thinking those studs/spikes may be used against more than just to "keep the homeless away" from those locations. As previously mentioned, anyone could be injured. It's actually very strange.

Beyond my brief remarks, I'm speechless.