Sunday, April 6, 2014

The Things Non-Christians Take For Granted About Christianity That Are Wrong.


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Some of these errors the Christians go with too.


1. Christians believed the world was flat [well until man went into space]. I remember being in shock when discovering this verse in the Bible. A lot of non-Christians will refer to fundamentalist Christians as "flat-earthers" even.


Isaiah 40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:



2 The world is 6,000 years old and the Bible says so. Actually it's not in there, though some say they calculated using the genealogical lists in the Bible. No verse points to this, there is nowhere in the Bible where it says the world is exactly 6,000 years old. I am open for discussion on this one. No I do not believe in evolution either. People don't realize that the one who came up with the 6,000 year mark was a Catholic Archbishop.!


3. God makes bad things happen. [The Calvinists run with this one] Yes God can use bad things for the good, but God is not the author of evil.


James 1:13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:

I meet so many unbelievers that do not get the simple concept that Satan is prince of this world, and that human sin opened this world to sin and death and that this affects all of us. They point to God saying, "He is the one at fault for thousands of children starving in world famines or for the problems I have faced in life"  and turn their backs on Him in willful pride.

Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

4. The early church fathers taught truth. Early church "history", usually the facts handed down from Rome are wrong. The apostles themselves warned about EARLY GREVIOUS WOLVES, think about it, these people were there, the time they were alive, this is why no one should be impressed by someone saying that those early church fathers were honorable and true because they came right after the apostles.


Acts 20:29 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.

Many believe Church history taught by Rome is legitimate, it is not. In fact if one dares to wipe away the Roman history and see things in the context of God's Word, instead of in false history mostly written by Rome where Constantine and pals come first and the church councils determine truth, then it is removing what I consider one of the giant blinders of all.



5. If you become a Christian it will make your life successful. I notice this even in more subtle fashions among fundamentalists and others, the thinking being if you become spiritually perfected that it will mean that your outside life will become a beacon of shining perfection to go with it.  Real life on this earth is messy. The other day, I had the strange thought that the "best life now" stuff has infused way past liberal megachurch, and that holiness is supposed to make one's life more functional and  "better". It doesn't always work that way. While God will give the Christian blessings, to be a Christian in this world can mean your life will be harder, whether you face out and out persecution or other smaller matters. One can ask, "What if my life is a mess and I am a Christian?" If you are not actively sinning, and trying to live right by God, life in this world can still be very hard. If you are poor, or people have walked away from you or you have had health and other losses, this does not mean you are a "bad" Christian.   I wonder how many fall away on that one alone. Being a Christian is not a self improvement plan or a life-coaching seminar. If we even just take the apostles, some who died for the gospel, sitting in jail, via American standards is not being a "winner". It is by God's standards though, this is something to think about.

Add one of your own here, if you would like in comments. I think of the things even Christians take for granted and do not check in God's Word.

44 comments:

Lillianna White said...

"Christians are rich Republicans who vote for people like Bush, have houses with white picket fences, and look like June and Ward Cleaver."

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Sooo not me!

Bible Believer said...

Yes that is the "classic view", the one sadly Duggars and others uphold. So not me either. :)

Lillianna White said...

Right. All the media puppets.
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Anonymous said...

In my neck of the woods, Christians are Democrats who voted for President Clinton and Obama, that are far more wealthy than any Republican I know, who claim to care and love people more than anyone else, believing they can create a better world (utopia) through superior intelligence, all the while stealing money in the form of "taxes" to give to Peter meanwhile Paul is working his fingers to the bone just to earn a modest living to support his family.

You won't hear many sermons on laziness and gluttony in the organized institutional church system as it "might offend people."

Please know that Jesus Christ was not a democrat, republican, conservative, or a liberal.

For any "political" party to claim they represent Jesus is utter blasphemy.

May God, our Father, forgive us for what we have made His Son, our Savior out to be.

Anonymous said...

And just for the record here, when I was a server in the restaurant business, those who professed to be "republican" were far more generous in tipping and expressing thankfulness for a job well done, than their democrat counterparts who often left no tips and no thank-you.

We must remember that worship of money knows no political party, thank-you very much. And to think that all democrats are poor is a lie, please check in with the Clinton family.

david said...

hey bb...do you believe God would not let them build a "tower" in babel yet we freely roam space in our day and age? have you ever pondered that EVERY SINGLE image you have ever seen of the earth or of space is from the NWO bureau in Moscow or Houston? Or perhaps that EVERY astronaut that "walked on the moon" were freemasons (plus countless others)...Check out the UN logo for a nice map of the spherical earth. No commercial flights pass thru Antartica...think about it....

Bible Believer said...


Yes actually the Democrats are the wealthy party too now, the days of the Democrats "being for the poor" are long long over.

http://news.yahoo.com/party-rich-congress-democrats-040228270--election.html

Both parties are teamed together for tyranny and monied interests. I think of all those Democrats that go on about the Koch Brothers but who ignore Soros right in their own midst.


Yes sadly while the false Republican party has claimed they are "god's" party, the other side claims they will bring Utopia, and "freedom". I notice now that "liberals and Democrats" are no longer anti-war, they cheer as Obama goes to war with a new nation and sends the drones out. The only freedoms they care about is "freedom" for degeneracy--as civil liberty is decimated in America. They do believe in their globalist Utopia [all the false political parties are teamed up for globalism even the global free market libertarians]
I agree Jesus Christ exists aside from all these political parties. I wrote this article long ago and it is more true then ever.

http://galatiansfour.blogspot.com/2011/01/politics-and-christian-deceit-of-this.html

The deception of the right/left and in between.

Bible Believer said...

Hi David, I may be getting myself in trouble admitting this one, but I DO NOT believe we have ever been on the moon!

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Now this is one of those things, I am in exploration stage on, if someone can prove me wrong, I'll listen.

I don't have time to write on everything I've studied and I've read up a bit on the Moon Hoax stuff.

[not an endorsement of this link but for information:

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/moon.htm

I know about the astronauts being freemasons.

I'll go with the Bible verses claiming the earth is sphere, I can look up at the sky and see the moon as smaller sphere in the sky but do I believe what I am told from our space agencies which are marked with so many occult symbols it's not funny? Do I trust in NASA? No way. I think they have to avoid Antartica because the air is too cold, maybe...

I thought out the moon stuff, how would rockets work where there is no oxygen in a vacuum? I saw one of the landing modules in a museum before and even as a kid thought how did that tinfoil looking thing even make it? Yeah I was an odd child. LOL I am no scientist, but so much does not add up to me.

Anonymous said...

The Bible clearly teaches that the Earth does not move.The sun and the moon have a circuit. Joshua 10:13-And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed... So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hastened not too go down about a whole day.
Hezekiah asked for a sign that he would recover from his sickness. He asked that the sun go back ten degrees.
Isaiah 38:8- The sun returned ten degrees by which degrees it was gone down.
There are many more scriptures that support this. Check out geocentric theory. Nicolas copernicus theory heliocentricity has never been proven.
I now believe that the Earth is fixed in the firmament, and the sin and moon and planets (the Earth is not a planet, planets are wanderers) move and have a circuit. Because that oohs what the Bible teaches. And yes it also teaches that the Earth is round.

david said...

Hey BB-

Cluesforum.info is a good place for space fakery research. Also, http://heiwaco.tripod.com/index.html .

I really enjoy your blog, keep it up!

Lillianna White said...

God did not always bother to stop and explain EVERYTHING to humans from HIS perspective. Their puny brains would have exploded long, long ago... but humanity in their puffed up arrogance always thinks that they are the pinnacle of all knowledge... but the joke is on these.
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Anonymous said...

"The Bible clearly teaches that the Earth does not move.The sun and the moon have a circuit. Joshua 10:13-And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed... So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hastened not too go down about a whole day."

To people on earth, the sun and moon do appear to move. Because the earth is rotating. So I am not sure how that verse or any verse about holding the sun and moon proves geocentric theory.

So the perception would be that the sun and moon stopped moving.


It's like in Genesis 1:15 "And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. "

This verse is talking about the sun and moon. Ofcourse, the moon doesn't actually give off it's own light, but the perception is that it does. The moon simply reflects the sun light. But to us on earth the moon looks like it has it's own light.

Anonymous said...

I believe that from Adam to now, that time is about 6000 years old.

http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/2007/05/30/how-old-is-earth


But, I believe that there may have been a gap before current creation.

http://www.learnthebible.org/a-gap-between-genesis-11-and-12.html

http://www.learnthebible.org/gap-theory-of-genesis-creation.html

Anonymous said...

Sorry, I had some errors in my spelling. I meant the sun moon and planets. also the oohs supposed to be is. That's what I get for using Swype on my phone.

david said...

"Ofcourse, the moon doesn't actually give off it's own light, but the perception is that it does. The moon simply reflects the sun light. But to us on earth the moon looks like it has it's own light. "

iam not being argumentative but simply put, HOW DO YOU KNOW THE MOON REFLECTS SUNLIGHT? because, MEN say it does right? What does God's word say about it? Genesis is pretty clear that God created 2 lights....mankind always has to reason stuff out and every nation is and always has been deceived by the god of this world....illusion

Anonymous said...

You explained Joshua 10:13 but didn't comment on Isaiah 38:8. Why would it be stated that the sun returned ten degrees, why not just say that the earth stood still. There are many scriptures that speak of the sun having a circuit. The men who pushed the heliocentric theory were sun worshipers. They want us to believe the Earth is mediocre and we revolve around the sun. God says that Jerusalem is the center of the universe. How can that be if we are constantly moving? Just because a man comes up with a theory and they teach it year after year, pounding it in our heads, doesn't mean its the truth. Darwinism has been taught for a long time and I don't believe it either. Tycho Brahe had a sound theory also, but that theory has not been ready presented in the schools or pushed in the media, just like they only give the option of evolution. Why? Do you know how many people doubted and continue to doubt God, because of heliocentricity and evolution. I'm not saying that you should believe the geocentric theory. I just think that people should study both heliocentric and geocentric theories and make there own choice. I had never even heard of Tycho Brahe until recently. There is a reason for that. Usually the truth is swept under the rug, and we are presented a big fat lie. Also in Genesis God created the Earth and did not create the sun until the 4TH DAY. I guess I missed the part when He sent the Earth spiraling around the sun. We all need to study everything we have been taught as truth by this wicked world.

Anonymous said...

Well said anonymous at April 7, 2014 4:24pm. In addition, the author of the scriptures is God. He is telling it as it is. not as he "perceives" it to be from earth.

And David is right, the scriptures say two great lights. Seems that the moon is a light on its own.

Anonymous said...

Sorry, but the moon doesn't give off light. Trying to take the verse out of context and then tell me I am not believing the bible is silly.


Genesis 1:15
"And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so."

The hebrew word for "give light" is owr. It can mean both to "be or become light". It can also mean " to be illuminated or to become lighted up".

In other words, the moon reflects light. The sun burns gas and emits photons of light. The moon reflects the photons of light.

Not every scientist is an evolutionist. There are creationist scientists.

As far as Isaiah 38:8. God can do all things. How he did it is irrelevant. It is all about perception. God can play with the laws of nature. To King Hezekiah it would have appeared like the sun moved back. On Earth it looks like the sun is moving.

You ask why didn't the bible say that the earth stood still. Maybe because God did not do it that way. Who knows?

Anonymous said...

Not once did I say you don't believe the Bible. You are entitled tho your own belief, and so am I. I do believe that everyone should study, and choose what they believe based on what they have learned for themselves, not because men say it is so. You don't have all the answers, and neither do I . We need the Holy Spirit to guide us in all truth.

Lillianna White said...

I think that some things are just worded for human understanding at that time. I mean, if God went into all the background explanations and scientific details, no one would have understood it either, it would have been over their heads, especially for that time. It's like when your kid asks you a question, do you give him the full scientific background at age 3? And so maybe you throw a few rabbits in... (I wouldn't, but some do) So I think that's what is going on with a lot of it, the line had to be drawn somewhere, but hey, my faith is not shaken by things like that. Some people bring up contradictions too but it just takes a certain perspective and I get it. I know the gospel is real because I experience its power and have a REAL relationship with God. I have proof I couldn't share with others, you have to go through it yourself. So as to nit-picking things in the bible, that's when I just throw my head back and say...'whatevers!'

God bless!
P.S. besides, I thought this was supposed to be a lighthearted funny list of false stereotypes of Christians and everyone brings out the heavy baggage...

Anonymous said...

"So as to nit-picking things in the bible, that's when I just throw my head back and say...'whatevers!'"

If one doesn't nitpick, how will one know error from truth?


“Therefore I love thy commandments above gold; yea, above fine gold. Therefore I esteem ALL THY PRECEPTS concerning ALL THINGS to be right; and I hate EVERY FALSE WAY” (Psalms 119:127-128).

1 Corinthians 11:2 "“Now I praise you, brethren, that ye remember me in ALL THINGS, and keep the ordinances, as I delivered them to you.”


“Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that YE ALL SPEAK THE SAME THING, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in THE SAME MIND and in the same judgment” (1 Corinthians 1:10).

Besides, who decides what is nit picking, and what is not?

Anonymous said...

Bible believer wrote, "Add one of your own here, if you would like in comments. I think of the things even Christians take for granted, and do not check in Gods Word.

I was just commenting on something that Christians take for granted and don't check Gods Word on it. And that is the theory that we are rotating around the sun. God went into great detail explaining the creation to us. There are so many scriptures describing the suns circuit from Gods perspective, and the Bible contains so much "mind blowing" information for even us in this day and age. I don't understand why He would have to sheild us from the fact that the earth is in orbit. I was not at all trying to insult anyone. I was just pointing out something that no one discusses. Everyone just believes what they have been told concerning this. And as I have said previously, a lot of people fell away when Nicolas copernicus came out with his theory, because people took the scriptures literally, and they saw that God said the sun moves, and they decided to believe the educated men over God. And some people still try to discredit God because of this. Again, I meant no harm. So if I offended anyone I do apologize, and I guess I didn't get that it was supposed to be something silly I was supposed to comment. I'm kind of new to the whole blog thing. And I really hope I don't come off sounding rude or sarcastic. That is not my intention. Its hard conveying your tone in writing. Hopefully in time I will get a little better at it.

Bible Believer said...

"I just think that people should study both heliocentric and geocentric theories and make there own choice"

This is something I'll have to do, I am not as strong on astronomy, so kind of sat this one out, I would trust in God's Word first of course. If I don't trust them on all the space travel, well, who knows what else is false? I have encountered enough places where "scientific" assumptions were not all they were cracked up to be.

I agree about the possibilities of a gap theory and old earth.

Anonymous said...

You can check out Biblical Scholarship.com . She has articles on geocentric theory and the scriptures that back it up.

Anonymous said...

www.fixedearth.com

It helped me a lot.
The author had died last year.
He was very sereous about it, and a christian.

Stephan

Lillianna White said...

Hi to all,

Oy, it is not easy to have a lighthearted conversation with some people (that item somewhere up there IS nit-picking...I won't mention which one)
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I use a fine toothed comb when it comes to doctrines of salvation for purposes of leading people out of cults, etc. But all I am saying is that in particular when it comes to science, no one knows it all. We can go on and on about science and the bible and still not get to the bottom of it all. There will be limits to what we as humans can know, and we need to be okay with that. What good is faith otherwise? There is a point where we just have to admit we don't have all the answers, no matter how many or few they be, and just have faith. I know God made it and I'm not even concerned about the details. But those who want to dig around in that, go for it (like creation scientists).

It's always so refreshing to see the graceful comments others leave behind when out of love you try to share something edifying with them that has edified you at one time.

I guess humor and love are not encouraged by many... alas!

My love and grace will continue to blaze unhindered, regardless!

Love, and grace to all!
It's a beautiful spring day over here too.
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Anonymous said...

I took the time to look up the fixedearth website, and it has some good quotes and scriptures that I would like to share.

The world also is stablished, that it cannot be moved.
Psalm 93:1

He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.

Job 26:7
Ok did Job just perceive that the earth is hung upon nothing, or could it be that God revealed this to him.

A quote from fixedearth.com " Todays cosmology fulfills an anti- Bible religious plan disguised as "science"


Another quote " These lies have planted the truth-killing virus of evolutionism in every mans "knowledge" about the universe, the Earth, and Himself.

You see this isn't just a matter of "science" this is one of the biggest schemes since the garden of Eden.

It was important enough that King James, the man who opposed the RCC, and strived to deliver us the Authorized Word of God, that he meet with Tycho Brahe, because he saw the complete heresy in the Copernicus Theory. And furthermore the failed experiments at proving the movement of the Earth gave more credibility to Tycho Brahe, not that he needed it. His work alone and the scriptures were proof enough. But you see the wicked stop at nothing. Just like they attempted to kill King James. Tycho Brahe s work died when he did. But God is faithful, and He raised up men who sought after this truth, and bring it to us today. You are entitled to your own opinion on what you think is important or not, but this issue could mean salvation to some. Some people still believe that "science" has disproved God. When what they think to be truth is a lie.

Anonymous said...

And also, this is not a matter of "science" and I am in no way a creation scientist. I am a Bible believer. This is about decerning truth from a lie. I thought that this was a decerning blog. As I said I am new to blogging and must not have understood something. And just to be noted. I'm not the anonymous that said the thing about "nit picking". I offered an apology to any one I may have offended, only because I'm not sure how to express my tone. And some things may have sounded sarcastic, when that was not my intention. And you are right we don't have all answers, and I'm sure that if no man ever revealed to us that the Earth orbits the sun, this discussion would not even have to exist. But throughout the centuries this has been taught. So yes, we don't have all the answers but let the answers that we do have be the TRUTH

david said...

"And also, this is not a matter of "science" and I am in no way a creation scientist. I am a Bible believer. This is about decerning truth from a lie. I thought that this was a decerning blog. As I said I am new to blogging and must not have understood something. And just to be noted. I'm not the anonymous that said the thing about "nit picking". I offered an apology to any one I may have offended, only because I'm not sure how to express my tone. And some things may have sounded sarcastic, when that was not my intention. And you are right we don't have all answers, and I'm sure that if no man ever revealed to us that the Earth orbits the sun, this discussion would not even have to exist. But throughout the centuries this has been taught. So yes, we don't have all the answers but let the answers that we do have be the TRUTH

April 10, 2014 at 7:44 PM"

...I did not take offense at any of your posts. All science is junk science, when viewed from the lens of God's WORD. its a narrow path ya'll

....A quote from fixedearth.com " Todays cosmology fulfills an anti- Bible religious plan disguised as "science"

I agree it is a salvation issue and all these lies will be used in the NWO, the coming anti-Christ and my guess it will fit perfectly with all the lying wonders to come upon the earth....


Lillianna White said...

This is a response not to anyone in particular, but in general...

What I notice on a lot of comments is that:

A. Someone states a comment. (ex. what I said earlier about not worrying about the details)
B. Someone else makes a remark about why they disagree with the comment.
C. The original writer explains more about their comment, perhaps even in a defensive way, to shed more light on their reasons for the view.
D. The responder comes in, with more disagreements about the first comment. Yet, the responders comments were never attacked at any point by the original writer's commentary. I have noticed a lot of people (besides me) on the defensive for such reasons.

I should share a few things. I have a lot of education with an almost perfect gpa, and my major was math and logic and did a lot in other heavy areas and subjects also. I was just never a science person, don't get me wrong, but my brain was wired for other things.

Now, say person 1 makes a comment. They have a right to their view. Then, person 2 makes a comment. They also have a right to their view. Person 1 can disagree with person 2's comment, and person 2 with person 1's comment. This is just freedom of thought. No reason for anyone to get bent out of shape over. We should be able to discuss without anger. I may never agree with you, nor you with me. I never attacked anyone's view to go for the gold medal in creation science and it obviously serves a purpose, like for those who doubt over the issue. But for me, it is not an issue of doubt, nor is it my area of expertise, so I simply am fine not worrying about it. At some point our answers will fail us and we need faith alone. I have nothing against the pursuit of knowledge, we have nothing to fear from discovering truth. But all I know is I made a remark about me, thinking to bring some comfort to someone, and feel like the whole crowd is jumping all over it. No one is attacking your view and I do not need to defend my view to anyone either. I am happy with it and that is good enough.

As for blogging, I am new to this thing too and am just another commentor on here, looking for some Christian fellowship if possible, so we can have some comraderie and mutual edification and hopefully some unity in the Spirit and love of God, to share helpful things and encourage one another. That is just my intention. It isn't easy as we are not in person and sometimes people can be more blunt due to the anonymity than in person. It's rather impersonal and such, there is an upside with convenience, but a downside too.

Just some thoughts...

Blessings to all!
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Anonymous said...

"And also, this is not a matter of "science" and I am in no way a creation scientist. I am a Bible believer."


Semantics. A creation scientist IS a bible believer. Science means "having knowledge". So yes, it is a matter of science.

This website I do not automatically endorse on everything. But this link deals with the absurdity of geocentrism.


http://genesismission.4t.com/miscellaneous/Geocentricity.html

Anonymous said...

Thanks, David that's what I was trying to explain.

Anonymous said...

I'm not a science person either and I don't have the academic standing that you do. I just looked up scriptures that reveal to me and many others that the earth is fixed and the sun has a circuit. So I did some studying on it and realized that the men who PUSHED the earth revolving around the sun theory were Baal worshipers (sun worshipers). I dug even more into it and learned that it has never been proven that the earth moves. The more I learn the more I see the deception. I said before everyone should take the time to study this because it is important. The problem I had is you keep coming back with snide remarks diguised as flattery. I don't know if you are doing this on purpose, but you are consistently trying to demean the things that I have said. With your comments about how I was supposed to write something funny, and how what I was commenting on had nothing to do with salvation. And how what you say is so much more important. And you may new right, but it seems to me like your the one "nit picking" then coming back with the whole everyone needs to get along and walk in love, so that you can make yourself look like the victim. When you are the one provoking people to wrath. Not that I'm angry. Your boasting doesn't offend nor bother me. But maybe you should examine yourself and take that mote out of your own eye.

Lillianna White said...

To that last one, I have NO idea what you are talking about. All I know is that I said nothing mean and am feeling attacked by others, so uh, yeah, that would make me the victim here. Just because I don't see every item as you do does not make me wrong, I never said anyone should agree with me, and just because I voice that view does not make me a 'know it all,' or that I am trying to sound like one. I never made any snide remarks (or flattering ones either) so point to one if you think there is one and I will tell you what I meant, which wasn't snide at all. I never said anything about your comments. I never did nor do I disagree with them, nor said anything to that effect. All I said is that "I thought this was supposed to be for some funny remarks" but maybe I was wrong. Heaven forbid anyone should make a funny remark or even a nice one on here! Important? I am just sharing what I see and not puting that view over anyone's. Looks like people are reading too many things into these comments here. I am not nit picking at all. And people do need to walk in love. I'm not provoking anyone, if you are angry it has nothing to do with what I said unless you took it the wrong way. There is no boasting either, I don't even know what you mean there. If I can't share a fact without it sounding like boasting, then again, that is a reflection on you and not me, and you are the one who needs to 'go examine yourself', but take the mote out of both of your own eyes first so you can see the reflection. Well... you started it.

Anonymous said...

You are making offensive comments in a sly sort of way. You repeatedly commented that the subject I was writing about has nothing to do with salvation, and when I further explain that indeed it does, you come back with "This is a response not to anyone in particular" If I want to play games, I would go join my local church. I'm done with all that. I can tell when someone is being manipulative. And as far as boasting, you are the one who stated your academic achievements. I have a GED, not that it matters. I'm nobody. I'm not trying to defend myself. I wasn't trying to defend the subject I was commenting on. None are good, except our LORD. I am telling you this because you may not be aware that you are doing it, but you are striving with people and then trying to play the peacemaker role. I have looked at some of the other post and noticed this .You are Not a victim. And neither am I , nor do I want to be. You slipped your comments in so that I would further have to explain the subject I was commenting on, and then came back reproving me for not walking in love, so you can make yourself look good. We should strive to bring glory to God not ourselves. I will not comment on this again, cause we are not supposed to strive with men. I'm am not telling you this to offend you or hurt your feelings. I just want you to know that you are doing this whether you know it or not, and trust me I have many faults also

Bible Believer said...

Let's try and ease up on the arguing with this one, people haven't studied this one, I need to, to even make a decision. Astronomy is an area I know very little about so I guess on that one I'm a bit loss. Remember this is not one of those mega-discerner blogs where the person running it is an expert on everything.

That said, my view of science is a controversial one, I don't trust everything because some man claims to have used the scientific method, even now in areas of science I have read on, I think there are major holes and false theories.

I am curious and going to ask some questions here, do those of you who believe in a fixed earth, believe that the Milky Way and the universe as the scientists present is legit?

Remember you are talking to someone who does not believe that man has ever been on the moon-an area my mind is not fixed in, but obviously I will hear these theories out and of course look to what God's word says. I have to check out that website.

Bible Believer said...

This one ought to surprise you all here...

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/04/07/star-trek-actress-lends-her-gravitas-to-film-promoting-idea-that-sun-revolves-around-earth/

Sungenis is a trad Catholic, familiar with that guy. [obviously NOT a supporter]

I'm looking at that website:

http://fixedearth.com/sixty-seven%20references.htm

http://fixedearth.com/nasas_spiritual_roots.htm

Anonymous said...

Meant that I WAS trying to defend the subject that I was commenting on

Lillianna White said...

Hi BB,

Thanks! I don't know why people are taking all these things the wrong way.

I simply said something about how I feel, not pushing it on anyone, a fact about my past (I have knowledge in this but not that...), not bragging or anything else, and I'm glad if people look into the science, it just won't be me. I'm not judging anyone.

To all:
I made a few jokes that apply to me as well but these things can be easily misconstrued online. I was just being funny about the throwing the head back remark. I'm just not gonna say anything else in this section. All I was trying to say was that it's okay to not know, we need faith either way with or without the scientific knowledge.

I don't have the scientific background anyway, so I just say...
"Whatevers!"
((:

Love ya!

Bible Believer said...

Thanks Lillianna. That's okay to make a few light jokes, we all need humor. Online some people may misunderstand. I suppose one can only try their best. Yes I am weaker in astronomy so this one, will take time and research.

Lillianna White said...

Thank you too and you're welcome.

Yeah, I never meant anything in any bad way, just down to earth and honest and even humorous. It is hard to know sometimes how something is meant because all those in person inuendos are absent; body language, facial expression, tone of voice, etc. People can tend to attribute moods to a comment that aren't there. I tried this too, you can take a comment and read it imagining the person happy, sad, mad, serious, funny, and it may all work. So I try not to read too much into a comment unless they are being blatantly aggressive. I have found that helps me with this a lot, but it's not an easy conversation skill to navigate.

Yeah, the science was just never my cup of tea, I wouldn't even know the difference between a proton and a photon, or where to start so I stand back and leave it to the experts. I try to focus on what comes easier to me. Last time I checked that would make me... normal!
((;

Blessings to you for having the patience to deal with all this stuff.
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Anonymous said...

Lilliana, I want to apologize for how harsh I was. I did think you were trying to play games with me. I think your right about reading something in different tones.

I probably shouldn't say this on here but, I would like to explain myself. My children and I have been stalked and harassed for a while now by our neighbor. We have put up cameras, and try to avoid him, but our houses are close. He remains within the law, and even tells my husband to call the cops,they won't do anything. We are not the only one he is doing this to.our other neighbors are harassed also, but he does it in a subtle way. We were at the store a few days ago and my husband went in we waited in the car. The neighbor approached my vehicle, looked in and grabbed himself while looking at my daughters. He was wearing silky basketball shorts, so they saw way to much. My husband is ready to kill this person. We called the cops and along with our neighbors are trying to get him out off our neighborhood.

I was feeling pretty stressed about what happened and decided to check this post, and when I read what you posted it made me feel like you were mocking me or something, and your right it was probably the state of mind I was in. You seem like a nice person, and I usually am too. Again, I apologize for how rude I was. Its hard when it comes to your children. I can't even go out of my front door without a gun on me, and I live in a nice subdivision on a small town.

Lillianna White said...

Hi anon,

I accept. ( :
I totally forgive you. I know how that works because we can't see the person so we sort of transfer to them whatever is going on otherwise and it can happen easily, that is why I thought that. I was totally not playing games, I try to be amusing and stuff sometimes. (People always are amazed how nice I am and tell me I am too nice, I'm not saying that to brag but just so you know where I am coming from.) You just have to picture a big smile and a lotta love with me!
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Now that situation sounds scary. Just be careful that you guys don't do anything that can jeopardize you (like kill the guy, tempting as that might be).
Take it to the police and keep your kids with you at all times, etc. Totally gross! I am sorry to hear that, I would be freaked out to the max. We should all pray for you.

See you on one of the next postings above...
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Lillie

Anonymous said...

Thanks, you are really sweet!! I feel real bad for what I said.

It is really scary, I'm trying to stay strong for my kids and trying to stay calm, so my husband won't go after this guy. Its hard cause he's not liked the disgusting guy down the road who everyone knows to avoid. He is very manipulative, and knows the law. But he is slipping cause he is messing with too many people and we are all aware and discussing it. He is also stalking kids on facbook.

God is good and I know that He will see us through. But it does get really hard. And I would definately appreciate your prayers

Faith