Thursday, February 27, 2014

Agents and Trolls Abound on the Internet





Yes I know they have the whole duality thing going with the cartoon above.....

Conspiracy Theory is True: Agents Infiltrate Websites Intending to Manipulate and Deceive.

This article right about agents infiltrating websites! Read the process it will make your head ache.


Remember these long ago articles...

The Problems With Christian Message Boards

Well This Explains Many Christian Message Boards

Make sure you read those boards to get the context of this article. I think there is a huge chance some "agents" have shown up here in comments and elsewhere. Internet deceivers can be from a variety of places. They try to work on you too. I got so many emails trying to turn me into an anti-Semite on this blog, I lost count. It's been more then one party too.

One guy closed down his seemingly good NWO-aware, bible discernment blog when he failed in his "blame the Jews" mission. Was he sincere? Who knows? It seems a lot of time is invested in messing with people who break outside the ranks. Trust me on that one. It is mind boggling, especially for someone who is an average [well probably below that in terms of things worldly society measures] person with a small blog.  I realized even a small message board, I posted on for some time was probably run by these types. There's a lot of people and groups out there who want to subvert Christian truth.

This is not always easy work, some people send me literally DOZENS of emails a day, trying to influence my views. Sorry if you are a sincere reader and I missed your email, I see those too, I hope to catch up soon. One message to many of these emailers, I do not plan to change my mind about the Nephilim. For some reason they keep working on that and never let up. So bored with it. I knew about Nephilim and "Watchers" reading occult books during my UU years, give it up! You are not going to change my mind. It is not from the Bible but a twisting of scripture.

20 comments:

Anonymous said...

After reading this I think city data has agents.

Steve said...

Isn’t it amazing what these people do to us. I’ve owned a few gardening websites for the last 5 years, and just last year started a Christian themed site… and the hate I get from that site, and the constant harassment and putdowns is absolutely shocking. But you know, its always done via deceiving, they pretend to be Christian, or on my side as a fellow Christian, sometimes they pretend to be nice, but then when you get the to crux of what they are saying, its always angry and hateful, designed to bring doubt, shame, and false accusations and slander against the site owner… to shame and harass us into perhaps giving up on speaking or sharing the Gospel… just look at all the comments on Youtube on any Christian themed video, its mostly hate. So just why are these anti-christians even watching or looking for Christian films in the first place… except to solely deceive and spread doubt in comments.

After another deceptive, yet ultimately hateful message last night, I’ve put up a name and shame list on my contact page, as well as warning folks that they will be reported to Stop Internet Spam monitoring sites if they send hate. I even considered shutting down the contact form, but that would just be giving into to them… so I stand firm.

Once more, I always head straight back to my concordance and look up the words devil and satan. Devil means False Accuser or Slanderer, and Satan means Adversary, both always against Jesus Christ, because He is the ONLY means of Salvation, and the ONLY TRUTH as the WORD of GOD. Once I fully understood the meaning of these words, so much more made sense as to how these people operate, and now I can see straight through all of their deceptions. Its always the same pattern, because they can’t be anything else, its deception, false accusations or slander, always intended to spread doubt or shame or humiliation, to turn us away from speaking the Word of Christ, because these people are always ultimately Adversaries against the Hope in our Messiah. And their real agenda is always to cause as many as possible to lose our salvation… after all, wouldn’t that be the prime objective of Satan - to resist Christ and cause his flock to fall from grace and be ravaged by wolves.

We will all be silenced very soon, the net is now surrounding us, so let us speak while we still can, forget about worrying of the future, and trust in God alone, isn’t that what every true Christian has always had to do ever since the appearing of our Messiah. For every person who speaks for the Christ - Matthew 10:22 24:9 and Mark 13:13 and Luke 6:22 21:12 21:17 and finally John 15:21-23 says it all.

Bible Believer said...

Most big websites do. Even on websites like Zero Hedge and other places I read, I see some sincere posters but when you see a lot of the same personalities around who always have a smarmy sense of humor and throw the conversation off track, it tells you something. I think about what I went through on that small Christian board and how one guy just recently erased just about all my old posts, they claim they are there to tell people the truth about the Catholic church but advance the same republicanism like Rapture ready and I was forced out years ago for daring to question Calvary Chapel.

Bible Believer said...

I have been through it too Steven, read my Christian message board articles to find out more details. Someone started a message board to go with this blog, I did not endorse it and even lost the link, but these folks didn't realize I have been down message board gauntlet and been lied to by so many types. Be careful who you befriend too, I had someone who I befriended online who acted kind and nice for TWO YEARS to me, but things got very weird at the end, she told me over and over in emails, I was too suspicious about Roger Oakland and Calvary Chapel on this blog and then started telling me my grammar and writing was horrible, and I needed to give it up. I never claimed to be Rhodes scholar, and I know my limitations, but what does that say? I walked away from this person. Some may call me paranoid, but I know people have tried working on me, online big time. Maybe they were sincere folks where I simply went too far for them to handle but you wonder about the other stuff when you think of how far they took things. I do think there is a reason, that I have had 4-5 people send me dozens of emails about how the Jews are the instigators of Babylon. One of the most recent article titles one sent me was this blasphemous one...

"BY WAY OF DECEPTION JESUS WAS OFFERED AS A SACRIFICE TO MOLOCH, BY THE JEWS:"

I won't read that blasphemous nonsense. I mean they send me this stuff constantly and this is just ONE among many posters.

continuing...

Bible Believer said...

So like you I have been lied too, and betrayed, and yes many play pretend. One thing I've had happen even with some of these folks, is they will even do 180s and totally contradict things they wrote even for years, like in a set up and if you disagree with them they don't deal with it like a normal person but go for the gusto and start ripping you apart. I have been slandered and more. One reason this website is under a moniker like bible believer and is anonymous is because of some of these things I have encountered.

I find myself thinking too there aren't that many atheists, secularists and others who would take the time to go "fight" the Christians, they would be playing video games, hanging out or reading a Richard Dawkins book. I've seen those youtube videos and you'd think 20,000 low IQ teen atheists were spending 24 hours a day online to insult all the Christians.

I get hate mail here all the time. I post some if they are polite and are sincerely disagreeing but there is a lot that has not been posted. I have been sent curses, goobley-gook and links where they have demanded to know my real name.

One thing I learned about Satan's children online is that they are liars. They are like their father, the father of lies. I sometimes am tempted to do a post on how the wicked operate. I saw a lot of wickedness in my life--long stories, and well lets just say got too many lessons schooled in their operations.

Their main focus is to deceive, and they will do anything to make it happen.

During my early days on this blog, I almost lost heart and even considered giving it up, because of all the nonsense, but I want God to direct what I do and will continue it as long as He tells me too.

I agree we need to trust in God alone and not let Satan's game players thwart us. Their techniques are very much the same, and their written language. I have gotten to the point where I can go to a message board and see who the phonies are, and their numbers are indeed legion like the demons that direct them. Read about astro-turfing and other techniques that will also help too.

Yes the days where we will be silenced are coming. I know this is a short time. I agree about speaking out while we still can.

(Proverbs 16:21,23,24,27,30 KJV)
(21) The wise in heart shall be called prudent: and the sweetness of the lips increaseth learning. (23) The heart of the wise teacheth his mouth, and addeth learning to his lips. (24) Pleasant words {are as} an honeycomb, sweet to the soul, and health to the bones. (27) An ungodly man diggeth up evil: and in his lips {there is} as a burning fire. (30) He shutteth his eyes to devise froward things: moving his lips he bringeth evil to pass.

Anonymous said...

I am so glad you didn't give up this blog. I've learned a lot. There are only a handful of people standing up for truth.

if I may change topic - I saw on Ephesians 511 post about new age music fests going on. I googled one - tomorrowland 2014. They have pictures from past years in the gallery. Lots of one eye symbolism ( the logo, too), a buddah, book of wisdom... one thing that stood out is that they state thousands of people come from all over the world! It's held in France. But in looking at all the pictures from all the years - the kids all look caucasian! And all in a certain age group - young. I'm thinking - it just looks odd. Please check it out if you get a chance BB, I'd be interested in your thoughts. E511 said its more programming with acceptance of antichrist as goal - which makes sense. I may be not too off topic after all - programming and deception going on.

I wondered why people would come from all over the world to watch/listen to electronic dance music? Everyone looks so happy and having such a good time. All the young attractive white kids - but, where are the other nationalities? The whole thing bugged me. I did not recognize any of the DJs, but then I'm not into that stuff. I did recognize the only performer actually holding an instrument - Slash from Guns and Roses. I was into the heavy metal and rock scene years ago, so recognized him.

E511 had a picture up from a festival - big pentagram picture lit up. Very occult looking.

Thank you
beb

Within His Word said...

"After reading this I think city data has agents"

Yes, real estate agents and brokers, so that when they're done with you, you will be broker.

This article is wise. I shared in time past on another article, how I used to evangelize on a website where people asked spiritual and religious questions. I was clear about catholicism being false, and the Gospel being simply, believe in Jesus.

For that, I was stalked by this catholic man, who I believe literally lived on that website. He was there, all the time. He never got off. Everytime you looked at the site, he was there, answering and insulting people that contradicted him. So he was either independently wealthy and could sit on this site all day long, or, I had to consider the possibility that he was being paid to do it.

Don't think it doesn't happen. It does.

Within His Word said...

"After reading this I think city data has agents"

Yes, real estate agents and brokers, so that when they're done with you, you will be broker.

This article is wise. I shared in time past on another article, how I used to evangelize on a website where people asked spiritual and religious questions. I was clear about catholicism being false, and the Gospel being simply, believe in Jesus.

For that, I was stalked by this catholic man, who I believe literally lived on that website. He was there, all the time. He never got off. Everytime you looked at the site, he was there, answering and insulting people that contradicted him. So he was either independently wealthy and could sit on this site all day long, or, I had to consider the possibility that he was being paid to do it.

Don't think it doesn't happen. It does.

Anonymous said...

"For some reason they keep working on that and never let up. So bored with it. I knew about Nephilim and "Watchers" reading occult books during my UU years, give it up! You are not going to change my mind. It is not from the Bible but a twisting of scripture."

Yawn, I'm bored also. Not everyone who disagrees with you is a "troll" or an "agent". I know this may come as a shock, but not all christians agree on everything.

Just because you say that something is a twisting of scripture does not make it so.

For example: the trinity is not biblical, but a twisting of scripture. See, that statement is false, right? Me saying it does not make it so. The trinity is real and biblical.

I don't mean to sound harsh, but you kinda come off as whiney.

Anonymous said...

"the Gospel being simply, believe in Jesus."

That isn't the gospel. The gospel is believing that you are a sinner as God sees you. That you repent of your sins. That you accept Jesus as God in the flesh who died on the cross and rose again. That you accept Him as your savior free from good works.

Alot of people may believe in Jesus who are not saved. Even the muslims believe in Jesus. The devil believes in Jesus.

Within His Word said...

"That isn't the gospel. The gospel is believing that you are a sinner as God sees you. That you repent of your sins. That you accept Jesus as God in the flesh who died on the cross and rose again. That you accept Him as your savior free from good works"

Believe in Jesus, is the Gospel (John 3:16).

I said, believe in Jesus is the Gospel. That is the Gospel. Jesus is God and died for our sins and rose again. If you needed me to elaborate, I could have done that, instead of you just coming along as an anonymous smarty pants. I presume my audience here is believers, so they don't need to be given such explicit detail about these things, when the point of that part of my post, was that catholicism is false.

"Alot of people may believe in Jesus who are not saved."

Really? So John 3:16 is false? You are false.

"Even the muslims believe in Jesus."

The muslims don't believe that Jesus is God or that Jesus died on the cross. So again, silly comment.

"The devil believes in Jesus"

This is the most silly comment of all. The fallen angels aren't offered salvation, no matter what they believe.

Go preach to someone else. And have a nice day.

Within His Word said...

"That isn't the gospel. The gospel is believing that you are a sinner as God sees you. That you repent of your sins. That you accept Jesus as God in the flesh who died on the cross and rose again. That you accept Him as your savior free from good works"

Believe in Jesus, is the Gospel (John 3:16).

I said, believe in Jesus is the Gospel. That is the Gospel. Jesus is God and died for our sins and rose again. If you needed me to elaborate, I could have done that, instead of you just coming along as an anonymous smarty pants. I presume my audience here is believers, so they don't need to be given such explicit detail about these things, when the point of that part of my post, was that catholicism is false.

"Alot of people may believe in Jesus who are not saved."

Really? So John 3:16 is false? You are false.

"Even the muslims believe in Jesus."

The muslims don't believe that Jesus is God or that Jesus died on the cross. So again, silly comment.

"The devil believes in Jesus"

This is the most silly comment of all. The fallen angels aren't offered salvation, no matter what they believe.

Go preach to someone else. And have a nice day.

Within His Word said...

Meanwhile, back to the original topic of the post. I don't endorse this website overall as for content (it has 10,000 pages and so who knows what all they are saying), but this one page is excellent: http://www.blessedquietness.com/journal/theworld/Trolls-US-government-dividing-Americans-from-each-other.htm

It speaks specifically of the topic that Bible Believer put in this article. How a person will be on an online discussion forum, and suddenly, get INUNDATED with tons of people pushing the conversation in one specific direction.

It claims documents that prove that government agencies employ people to go online and direct conversations to a specific agenda.

Pretty chilling stuff, but we shouldn't be surprised when the government is doing such tactics.

Bible Believer said...

I agree that the gospel is BELIEVE.

One has to be born again BELIEVING to even be convicted of sins to be led to repent.

So I'm with Within on this one.

Bible Believer said...

The muslims and others believe in a false "jesus" not the true Jesus of the Bible.

Bible Believer said...

I believe people are being sent to message boards to direct conversations.

Google astro turfing and Delphi methods.

I have encountered people who were online 9-10 hours a day, like it was a job. One time I had a troll on a small Christian board, show up on a political board --[one that has its own delusions to sell] and I and acouple others figured out it was the same person. Rapture Ready games early on showed me how some of this worked. I am getting better at how they post on some political boards, everything is snark and a joke. No not everyone joking around is a phony but there is a certain way they do it, it is always to subvert the conversation through tactics of deflection, diverting and denying. I think there are other groups involved too beyond govts.

Bible Believer said...

My point of this article was not to claim that everyone who disagreed with me was a troll or agent. They are out there though.
Maybe you haven't been on the internet circuit long enough. Who cares if I am whiny and not posting Joyce Meyers be positive articles every second, I'm not the subject here. These people are directing conversations online.

Andrea said...

seriously- are there are any legit people? Who pays these guys to set up multiple blogs/websites and sit around all day on their bupkis coming up with alters/aliases etc?! They have nothing better to do than data mine, befriend your friends and enemies, and collect pointless data on you (me)? BB, you obviously have a higher tolerance and get more comments here than I ever did. I don't know how you handle it. You have much more grace than I do. Not only does it make my stomach turn and NOT trust anyone it also makes me want to walk away from the whole "blogging" thing entirely. I've taken a sabbatical (for the Jew hate mongers I used this term specifically) from posting and I've been living my life and I have a really good life. I have a full, fun, peaceful, beautiful life. I like living it rather than focusing on all this junk which seems to be endless and people will always have and give their opinion of me. It never fails to get the disagreeable grouchy Christian who has the perfect theology all wrapped up in their brain and they cannot be wrong attitude. I do randomly stop by and read your posts. I like the Ukraine one. I have my opinions but don't we all.

Bible Believer said...

I've been data-mined too. I also had the Trojan friends. I wrote about one from years ago on the Christian message boards and there was another one who got angry at me for exposing Roger Oakland. Yes they found out everything about you too, and that one did. I will write you soon Andrea. I am wondering if there is anyone legit too.

Bible Believer said...

I sent you an email Andrea.