Monday, August 12, 2013

XXX Church and Calvary Chapel?



1 had a reader send me some of this information, so thanks to them....

1 Timothy 1:15

King James Version (KJV)

15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

Before I write this, I want to make clear, that even the worse sinner can be born again in Jesus Christ. There are many who have committed endless sins who went on to salvation. This includes all variety of sexual sinners. We live in a fallen world where people do not wait for marriage, where homosexuality, adultery and other immorality is rampant. Jesus came to save ALL sinners. Street prostitutes, drug dealers, fornicators, even a porn film star if they believed in Jesus Christ and were born again in Him all have the same opportunity in Jesus Christ to believe, be born again in faith and then repent and be regenerated via the Holy Spirit.

Wicked TV shows will have stars on them say, that too many sins, means an automatic pathway to hell with no hope. One person who watched the amoral show, "Breaking Bad" told me that one scene had both of them discussing how they would see each other in hell and how they have sinned so much they knew they were going there. I told them to be careful of watching shows with messages like that, the whole "give up scenario". Satan loves that one to tell people who don't know the gospel and that we are to depend on the righteousness of Jesus Christ, they aren't "good" enough to be Christians This is the message the world gives.

But there is another message where they tell people sin doesn't matter in the false apostate churches too.  We are to use our brains led by the Holy Spirit, false people and deceivers will try to twist and turn this message where allowance for sin is promoted and false conversions hyped. What happens is you see an inverse CELEBRATION OF SIN.

And isn't this picture kind of an inverse celebration of sin?

Why did they leave EX out of it, or saying EX-Porn stars?  Notice the occult symbols here, the sun burst, the 8 stars etc?


And naming the church XXX [aka TRIPLE X MOVIE] just seems to be more celebration of sin too.

Do you think it's possible, they want to emphasize porn, porn, porn [see picture at top of this article], or XXX kind of like "trigger words" too?

Lest you think I am getting too picky, here is one of Craig Gross's books. This is not a honoring depiction of "jesus":


The book topic seems to be along "UNCHRISTIAN REFORMULATING CHRISTIANITY" LINES, a la Platt and Chan. The typical globalist 'social justice" gospel etc is shown with an emphasis on non-biblical fasting. One knows they sell this false Christianity to young people "fed" up with church.
Starving Jesus: 40 Days of Nothing (Book)
 $10.00 Where is the love?  Why are we stuck in the pews? Why is Sunday the only time we see Christians? Are you born again lazy?Are you doing everything short of sin to tell people about Jesus? On rare occasions there are those willing to commit a form of spiritual suicide in the Christian subculture. Men and women who will yell from the rooftops, "Church sucks!" Although they are heard, their voices are quickly dismissed and rarely see the light of day. They are labeled fanatics and troublemakers and are asked not to come back. Christ yelled the same type of thing once. It got him killed. This conversation is on the tips of all sorts of tongues: your fellow churchgoers, your neighbors, your spouse, your kids, your friends. The most important part of this conversation is what you will say. Welcome to the conversation.
If you got to the XXX church website, they seem to focus on something called PORN ADDICTION. Is porn an addiction or merely a product of sexual sin, and lust? The verbiage seems meant to deceive. From the XXX church website:
"Porn Addiction Recovery
Porn addiction is one of the most difficult addictions to overcome, but XXXchurch.com is your resource online to fight porn addiction. We prevail through awareness, prevention, and recovery. Pornography addiction is threatening lives, families, and children. XXXchurch offers addiction recovery resources for men, women, parents, and couples. We have weekly articles on how to conquer difficult issues, as well as porn accountability and filtering software. Take a minute to take the sexual addiction test below. Break porn addiction and sexual addiction. Get treatment for pornography addiction if you are a sex addict or a porn addict. Quit porn today"

While people can get addicted to substances that have some physiological affects on them, this does not remove the sin factor. Here we must be careful and not label every fat person as a glutton and sinner because they may have physical and endocrine problems. Everyone has to eat and the NWO is busy fattening up Americans and others for profit via low nutrient adulterated food and other processes. Even with drug addicts, there is a physiological process that can be part of the scene but then they made the sinful choice to do illegal or street drugs in the first place. The ones who may have less sin in their choices is the car accident victim who finds it hard to wean off morphine products that once helped keep them alive and going into shock from pain.  I'm don't agree about porn. It seems to deem the use of porn and participation in lust filled sinful activities as an "illness" instead of out and out sin. Where does the Bible say that fornication and it's by products are an "addiction"? In my opinion that is by PLAN. If anything real salvation will lead one to want to put away wicked things!

The XXX church seemed to me from years ago to be a mostly cultural phenomenon, it seemed fake to me even years ago when they hit the news. One would see bubbly "sexy" Las Vegas types parade across the screen talking about Christianity but they didn't seem to dress different or act different. That was the problem. Even if they said they brought prostitutes and others to salvation and definitely is not impossible that a few heard the name Jesus, went on to read the Bible and actually were born again, watching how this church has seemed to have been shown so often in the news means it is questionable. Anytime an organization is promoted by our mainstream media as "cool" and "happening". It's time to take another look


  1 Corinthians 5:9 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:




One action of this church has been to associate with Ron Jeremy, past porn star who has admitted to having sex with thousands of women, going around doing a tour of the churches with the XXX church founder Craig Gross. All of you know how I have warned you, "Never Trust A Celebrity", and we should be cautious of what this pseudo-celebrity has to say. One thing about the porn world and sex industry it has it's obvious Luciferian ties too and who knows the numbers of mind controlled types  that are part of this world?


One thing I noticed is how Jeremy claims to be closer to God? Does "closer" to God mean saved? Not in this case. Many claim to be "closer" to "God" but do not know him. How many car wrecks did Sam Kinison have by the way? He died in one so this must have been an earlier car wreck.

 I do not believe Ron Jeremy is saved whatsoever. Nope, No How, No Way. I am sure that will upset some of my neo-evangelical readers, but in the video above he says, that "religion and pornography can co-exist" and goes into the liberal satanic spiel about "consenting adults", and says he is never going to agree on biblical mandates regarding sex and marriage, what kind of preacher would invite this man into churches but a false one?

See this quote here:

“The Lord is fine with marriage. We all agree on that,” he told the audience. “But where we differ is that I believe in recreational sex, and the religious folks don’t.”

And this is the guy, this mega church invites in? Tells you a lot about that church doesn't it?

Remember all those warnings about the Whosoevers on this blog, where they have OVERT Satanic imagery, well XXX church and Ron Jeremy and others, have OVERT CONNECTIONS to the PORNO WORLD which they still celebrate.
True Christians leave the things of Satan behind, they do not return over and over to eat vomit. They do not celebrate their sin. They do not name their "new" churches after their old sin. They do not celebrate past fornication, witchcraft, etc. They do not parade around with UNREPENTANT FORNICATORS to get an audience.

And speaking of  The Whosoevers, where Ryan Ries is one of the premiere leaders {son of Calvary Chapel pastor Raul Ries} one can see shared conferences between leaders of XXX church and Calvary Chapel. Here is one shown here, where Raul Ries, Calvary Chapel pastor and his son, leader with the Whosoevers, Ryan Ries, are there sharing a speaking platform with XXX church speaker Donny Pauling. The yellow highlights were added by me.

Donny Pauling is an ex porn producer and should be commended like all the others for leaving the porn industry, but why would you join up with a group like XXX church? Why not lecture on the sin of lust, and extra-martial sex instead of the "addiction of pornography"?

"Donny will be in Australia from September 24th to October 10th, 2012. He’s been brought over from the USA by Guilty Pleasure, a charity aimed at educating people about the reasons why people get addicted to pornography and connecting addicts and couples to professional help."

The more I find out about Calvary Chapel, the worse picture it is.

The Whosoevers or Ries aren't the only ones who have invited XXX church to Calvary Chapel. Craig Gross founder of XXX church, has spoken at Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale.



Here is a link showing XXXchurch {Miami} partnered with two Calvary Chapel churches.

Did you know there is even an off-shoot church now called STRIP CHURCH? What next WITCHCRAFT CHURCH? ADULTERER'S CHURCH?
The XXX church is getting around out there. I've noticed they are more in the news. They also help to promote many "Christian" rock bands of a very dubious nature. Craig Gross also advances the idea of accountability partners which is false, one should be looking to the Holy Spirit to conquer sin. Fellow Christians can help encourage and comfort and even counsel on sin, but to take a faux leadership role over another Christian is false. It's just another way to sell the Catholic concept of a "spiritual director" or confessor.

What we have now is a false Christianity with a false "jesus" being promoted where the truth about sin itself is being changed. The fringes of the "thou shalt not judge" false gospel are being brought to fruition. I don't know much about Douglas Gray, and don't agree with everything he says, I believe repentance comes via conviction of the Holy Spirit after one is saved and believes in faith, but definitely he is right about these organizations like XXX church watering things down where they teach acceptance of sin instead of victory over sin. These types advance the "no judgment platform". This too is joined with the "addiction" messages I mention above. Just look at what one of their supporters have to say in this video...






27 comments:

Anonymous said...

It's all so boring, really. The whole circus, is boring to me. Talking about addictions, America is addicted to television and "reality" shows. Why not just bring them into the church? With a name like "Craig Gross" (sounds scripted to fit an image anyway), you can be as gross as you want. Put aside setting your mind on things that are lovely and of good report. There's smut to think about. So fill 'er up.

Ron Jeremy has spoken in many churches, like that Rock church place in San Diego, and he openly says that he doesn't believe in Jesus Christ as the only way to heaven. That alone tells you where he is spiritually. If he were the most well-behaved unsaved person, he'd still be on the way to the lake of fire for eternal torment.

And that's what's missing in all of this. The reality of the lake of fire, a place of eternal torment.

That "starving jesus" book is pathetic. If they want to do the Platt/Chan baloney about giving it all away to feed the poor, how about they stop SELLING THEIR BOOKS FOR MONEY??? Are some people this foolish? They can't see that a person is MAKING MONEY selling books about giving away money? What's the deal here?

So it's all boring. Give me a good Bible study. That will get my attention. But no, we can't have that. Let's go for shock value. Bring on the gross.

Anonymous said...

Did you see the anger in that guy at the last video? Physically attacking someone because they didn't agree with him? That's the bad fruit of the emergent church. And yes, Vineyard is emergent, before the word was coined.

The one thing that wasn't pointed out well, which should have been, is how many times that guy that broke the sign, made disparaging comments about the Bible. Please take note of that. He didn't want to hear what the Bible says. He insulted the Bible several times.

That guy then said that God told him to beat the guy up. Seriously? Deception is deep.

Bible Believer said...

I agree it's the same thing everywhere now, this sick degenerate culture from Satan himself infusing into everywhere including the churches. I had this discussion with a Christian friend but one tied to the church system [yes I have warned her], who says we are to be the salt of the world, but was telling her, you can see the steady decline. Even years ago if someone dressed "alternative" it wasn't so chaotic. Now they just look scary, like they stumbled out of a zombie movie or something and went to go play while stoned in their mother or girlfriend's makeup.

Why when I saw that guy's weirdo makeup, did I think of Anna Nicole Smith, he looked like had had painted his face like a clown. What kind of spiritual and emotional trouble even leads one to make up their face that way? I didn't know of any "show" he was putting on, he just looked like part of the audience. I have some hearing problems and the audio wasn't that good and transcripts on youtube are almost useless, but knew he was basically ranting against God's commandments and defending endless nonsense. Was able to pick up on that. Even his dress shows he is troubled, and the ripped up clothes, I couldn't tell what the T-shirt actually said but looked like it had SEX on it, showed he had some problems. Now they would say "How dare you judge his dress" but how many verses in the Bible are there about dressing with modesty and being sober minded?

Titus 2:6

King James Version (KJV)

6 Young men likewise exhort to be sober minded.

The young people are dressing wild around here, and by YOUNG I mean even those who should know better in their 30s and 40s and below. I don't know how things are in your neck of the woods and warm weather makes it worse. Lest someone think I am a fussy, I grew up among the "goths", some punks with mohawks, you know that type of thing. It doesn't take much to shock me, but they are managing it.

Yeah I had the same thought about "Gross", but that is a common last name so didn't comment on it.

Yes Ron Jeremy isn't even a Christian but he is being held up as a speaker by this false church.

I wonder how many other unbelievers even ones who have not repented of the most evil deeds, will be put on the celebrity parade. Before it was just wicked politicians, but now they can open the doors to all other sorts.

I agree even if he was clean-living, a one woman man, he'd still be on the way to hell for rejecting the gospel.

And you are right, they leave out HELL and focus on the DO NOT JUDGE FALSE GOSPEL. That is why they can be so wishy-washy about sin and so accepting of it.

Yes the cover of that Starving jesus book is sick. Good question, as much as they talk about the poor, they seem to rake it in and then some. Actually I saw some video, forget if it is one I posted or not, I was looking at different things to post this, Gross was discussing the porn industry and snarking on some lady making ONLY 45,000 a year. I guess he is not familiar with what MOST Americans make. I think 42,000 is the average and it's fallen below that. So how much money does all this religious biz earn or cost and the endless speeches, lectures, travel and public appearances?
Yes stop selling the books for money then and put your money where your mouth is. It's just making more merchandise of people.

I posted this to show how degenerate things are getting. I know NOT EASY at all.

Anonymous said...

Gross said in the ABC interview that Jesus came to unite.

But the Bible says he came to bring a sword. Jesus did not come to unite Christians with people living in sin and disobedience.

Mathew 10:34-36

They have it so twisted.

And that guy in the makeup in the video going on and on about how you cannot judge! (while he is judging) Why are these types to touchy about you better not judge me! The heavy metal band Sleeping Giant's Tommy Green has a post on xxxchurch and they have a song about you better not judge them - don't you dare. They have a t-shirt that says don't you judge me.

Anonymous said...

Oh just know, Bible Believer, I wasn't critiquing your exposure of this. I was critiquing the state of what is called the "church".

I appreciate that you exposed this. I know people that rave about the greatness of Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale, and yet here's Mr. "Gross" speaking there with this filth. It's all a cult of personality.

Anonymous said...

Yes, why do they say Jesus loves porn stars and not ex-porn stars. I used to wonder about the Hookers for Jesus who are at Whosoever conferences and why they don't call themselves ex-hookers for Jesus. I thought it was interesting the founder of Hookers for Jesus is married to the lead singer of the 80s christian band Stryper. More interesting connections

Seems the message they want to convey is Jesus loves you so much that he saves you in your sin, so just keep sinning because jesus accepts you just the way you are. If you bring up the bible and its call to godly living, turning from evil and forsaking the world - all they have is, "don't judge me!!" Yeah, they do not like to have the bible quoted at all. The bible is very offensive to them.

Bible Believer said...

Yes these types preach directly against scripture where their words are the opposite such as when Gross preaches that Jesus came to unite. The false jesus they are leading the world to desires to "unite"[the antichrist]

Jesus told us He came to bring division.

They have twisted so much, there is the OVERT like that, and the more subtle and COVERT.

Yes you notice how much they "judge" as they cry out about others "judging them". The whole intolerance of the tolerance clan who claim everyone should be tolerant. His make-up at that advanced age too screams "Pay attention to me!" Well he follows teachers where popularity and attention in this world is everything.

Thanks for informing me of the Tommy Green song, well they will put the false messages of their false gospel into the music. I didn't have room to include all the apostate musicians supported by xxx church and it's associates but there's plenty of them.

Oh I am glad anon, you weren't critiquing my exposure. Trust me I get grossed out looking at some of this stuff! Things are getting worse too where they sink down to one level and then they manage to get worse. I have heard people tell me how great Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale is too. The Calvary Chapel people I knew online and even offline, thought Bob Coy was the greatest preacher ever. There too, there is no discernment. You are right it's all a cult of personality.

Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale, has invited the politicians of the world to it's pulpit, like Netanyahu preaching his Zionist message of war. They don't even care if they put overt Christ-rejecters up there. It's all about being of this world.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzQa0ZD1JoQ

[using this link for picture, not a supporter of Koenig]

http://www.watch.org/showart.php3?idx=11083&rtn=&showsubj=1&mcat=24

All these "Christian" musicians and celebrity types, they are all part of the same "network".
So they have another one called Hookers for Jesus, yes that is sick. No I am not surprised at the high level connections such as the leader of that being married to the lead singer of the band Stryper.

They want to sell their false jesus, the antichrist, that is okay with you remaining in the world and to keep on sinning.

You are right that the Bible is very offensive to them. They'd rather listen to their celebrity preachers and music folks who preach the EXACT OPPOSITE of what the Bible teaches.

Anonymous said...

Where is the Holy Spirit in any of this, not even a mention. No accountability to God, no church discipline = money coming in the doors and that is what this is ALL about. - Don

Bible Believer said...

Don, take a look at the xxx church speaking team...

http://www.xxxchurch.com/x3events/speakingteam.html

Ron Jeremy unrepentant fornicator is right on there.

"Want to book an X3 Speaker? Click here to fill out the form or call Michelle at 626.628.3387

Speaking is an integral part of the ministry of XXXchurch and the honorariums for speaking help us continue in all that we're doing. We are passionate about educating the church on the effects of pornography and sharing the reality that people within the church are struggling as much as those outside the church. It is our goal to educate and to equip the church to break free from the stronghold of sexual addiction through the word of God and shared experiences of those who have overcome. Each speaker has as unique story and will bring a solid message to your church or organization. We have created successful events such as Porn Sunday, Porn & Pancakes, Porn & Pastries, Porn & Parents and The X3Youth night but we can customize an event that works for you based on your vision and/or ideas."

I looked up how much money they want...couldn't find an exact amount but the questionaire asks "What is your budget"?

N4TM said...

The porn at CC is the false teaching given on any given Sunday. Their problem is not just inviting the porn stars but also the elk surrounding Prophecy Conferences. The triple X gimmick is just as bad as the prophecy conference and the conferences with CNP members and Jesuits and dames of Malta. How much further can the Titanic of CC sink? Apparently lower. How about a picture of Chuck Smith and Pope Francis, this would only catapult membership at CC's ya know. CC is getting so repulsive. I feel bad for the ignorant sheep that still (although highly doubtful this can be possible) have no idea what CC is up to. If you attend a Calvary Chapel- get out! I say this will all love and admonition to you brothers and sisters, get out now and find somewhere else to go. Spend time reviewing what you've learned and simply test it against the Scriptures.

Steve said...

I grew up in calvary chapel (at the mothership in costa mesa). They are filled & controlled by free masons.

Such kind hearted people but so very, very lost.

I often tell people this...

"The best thing you can do for your body (your well being here on earth) is to join a fraternity. Coincidentally though, it is the worst thing you can do for your soul."

Calvary's financial successes are numerous. These are promises offered by satan to those who serve him.

Anonymous said...

I apologize - the founder of Hookers for Jesus is married to a guitarist, Oz Fox, of Stryper - I don't think he's the lead singer. Sorry for misinformation.

Bible Believer said...

N4TM I agree the porn at the CC is the false teaching. Hmm about the ELK, I wouldn't doubt there many "brothers" in the place, not at all. One thing though I'll say those "fraternities" are EVERYWHERE NOW in the churches.

Hey this is just LEFTIST NWO indoctrination to go with the RIGHT flavor-Patriotism/Dominism garbage.

They got a level for every demographic, the Dominionism for the Ronald Reagan set, and the Porn conferences for the young Bill Clinton/Obama set.

I think the titantic of the CC will sink even further, and a picture of CHuck Smith with the Pope isn't far off.

Hey I actually googled it once...:p

to see if it happened.

Greg Laurie has already gone to at least one conference with a bishop in attendance.

and then there was this years ago...

http://galatiansfour.blogspot.com/2010/11/why-did-calvary-chapel-pastor-meet-with.html

CC is repulsive to me too. {well they really aren't much different from the other churches.

When doing research for this article, the XXX guys were at a variety of Megachurches, a few mainstream baptist ones and others.

Hmm this Assembly of God links to them as well...

Funny how some of the RIGHT/LEFT demographic stuff gets mixed up. AFA with the XXX church on the same page, but it all converges to the SAME NWO ANTICHRIST PLACE.

http://www.newlifepierre.com/links.asp

It shocks me how ignorant people stay as they sit in the pews silently. Sure there is the set that knows its rotten but who 'don't want to be alone" in refusing to obey God. But how many sit there just totally clueless?

I agree if you are in a Calvary Chapel get out too.

Same for every other church linked to the ecumenical and antichrist "christian" world movement, and it's cultural satanic ambassadors.

That may include 99% of all of them, but better to get ou then sit there and drink poison.

Oh and if you feel WRONG sitting in a church even if you go to some IFB that you want to tell yourself just has a few strains of Dominionism, get out still, the Holy Spirit is telling you not to be associated with any of it!

Bible Believer said...

One thing with Calvary Chapel its roots are very suspect.

Do you all remember when I wrote this article including information from Matt24 of The New Jerusalem Chronicle?

One thing Calvary Chapel was able to do, was promote the so called PARACHURCH ORGANIZATIONS that worked outside of denominational lines.

This is why XXX church today can go hang out with some of the Baptists, and the Pentecostals, so forth and so on.

I agree about Calvary Chapel and the freemasons.

One thing they are massively there too in the SBC [40% of SBC pastors are said to be freemasons]--hey I saw one of them wearing the ring myself! and lately I am suspecting very high in number in the IFBS too. [some have marked themselves with the torches, extreme Dominionism and other connections]

Yes Satan's fraternaties reward in this world, but their souls will be lost to hell.

Steve you probably saw a lot at the Mothership....Costa Mesa....

Glad God got you out of there!

Bible Believer said...

oops forgot link above..

WAS CALVARY CHAPEL A SET UP FROM THE START?

http://galatiansfour.blogspot.com/2011/11/calvary-chapel-set-up-from-start.html

Bible Believer said...

Thanks Anon.

Oz Fox what an odd name.

I believe OZ is a NWO marker, when people are named that. It is just a theory at this point.

Though I am sure some could claim hey his birthname is OSBOURNE or something..

Oh here is his real name...

Richard Alfonso Martinez (born June 18, 1961), better known by the stage name Oz Fox, is the lead guitarist of the Christian glam metal band Stryper. Martinez's ...

But what's with all the OZ names out there lately?

Steve said...

BB @ August 13, 2013 at 10:06 AM

"Steve you probably saw a lot at the Mothership"

I saw plenty. Worship of mammon, elevation of fraternity (masons) over scripture, intentional cover-up of sin, etc.

CCCM was a big contributor to the 'entertainment' side of Christianity. The celebrity pastor & rock band Jesus themes are heavy there.

The worst part is they brainwash their congregants into believing that they are the 'true church' and people who disagree with them are socially ostracized.

My own family (parents) is still brainwashed by their lies. They have been attending since they were teenage hippies, and with no formal education, they know no better.

I pray for them and we discuss scripture...that's the best I can do. If I bring up problems with Calvary (even publically visible ones) they reprove me for saying "bad things" about "God's anointed".

They were groomed to be cowards. I didn't understand this until I was older and took psychology classes. That is why you will often not find intelligent people in Calvary...they wake up to the kool aid and walk out.

On the off chance you do see someone intelligent there (Chuck Missler, as an example)...they are usually there for money and to deceive.

Bible Believer said...

Sounds like you did see a lot. I found out a long time ago that Chuck Smith played an integral part in the start of CCM and the modern music. They not only got the whole outside of denominations parachurch thing started but the marriage of "Christianity" and rock music and many other deceptions.

Yes one can see the brainwashing and the false messages they give out there. There are a lot of websites with those who left who call Calvary Chapel a cult. That stuff isn't coming out of a vacumn.

I get the feeling the place is not one for intellectuals. [not everyone has to be an intellectual and often that can be a trap that leads one away from God too] but it's kind of like watered down "Christianity' made "simple".

Romans 16:18

For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.

Of course Calvary Chapel is not only one guilty of that, as many other religions and churches have people following the pastors, they "know more", they "studied" etc.

I am sorry your parents are still brainwashed and you are right those lacking formal education [see verse about simple above] can be more easily deceived. Of course God will know what they can understand or not understand, but it is still difficult to watch. Of course we know they brought many in as young hippies. I would keep praying for them. They may one day see what is going on. Many people may depart churches even not knowing exactly what is wrong, but being warned by the Holy Spirit that is not a good place for them.

Yes the "God's anointed" thing is a blindfold the pastors have put on many people. Of course it is just one more version of the Catholic Magisterium stuff--"we know best and do what we say!"

Sad to say that is what is happening, these pastors get many to drink the Kool-Aid, making those claims.

Anonymous said...

still wish you would take scott johnson down foo of recommended sites

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UPDATED “Pastor” Mike Slattery ACCUSED OF INCESTUOUS PEDOPHILIA BY OWN FAMILY!

http://lighthousebaptistchapel.com/tag/scott-johnson/

in this story he hides the knowledge of slattery and attacks another pastor trying to get slattery to repent...

so scott is no different then a catholic hiding a pedophile, you can't seriously support this pedo cabal do you?

Bible Believer said...

I don't trust that website either, but if you looked, I took down the Scott Johnson link two days ago.

Anonymous said...

You wrote, "They do not celebrate past fornication, witchcraft, etc."

That's right. So why does William Schnoebelen brag about the things he did when he was supposedly a vampire? People who repent of sin don't smile and brag about it.

Anonymous said...

I was reading your link on Unchristian Reformulating Christianity.

They are definitely out to destroy Biblical Christianity.

I liked Lisa Ruby's comment:
'Real churches exist to edify the saints and equip them to serve God, not coddle those who love the world and despise Biblical Christianity!'

Anonymous said...

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/salvation-army-to-set-up-stall-at-melbournes-sexpo/story-e6frf7jo-1225796285887

Salvation Army at Sexpo.
When you click on the clink you see that Amanda Hart, office manager for the Salvation Army Social Justice Department, is handing out xxxchurch brochures - the one claiming Jesus loves porn stars.

Anonymous said...

Wow, I had no idea such a "church" existed. Bible Believer wrote: "I believe repentance comes via conviction of the Holy Spirit after one is saved and believes in faith, but definitely he is right about these organizations like XXX church watering things down where they teach acceptance of sin instead of victory over sin."

Acceptance of sin instead of victory over sin reminds me of Scofield's Standing Vs State doctrine. The XXX church takes that doctrine and runs with it.

Anonymous said...

Anon on August 16th at 10:28pm is mixing apples and oranges. The "xxxchurch" is denying Scripture. But the "standing vs. state" doctrine is true, and Scofield didn't make it up. The Bible teaches it. We are the righteousness of God in Christ Jesus eternally by faith alone in Jesus alone (this is justification), and yet at the same time, we have to choose to walk in the Spirit and not the flesh (this is sanctification). There is my permanent standing in Jesus, yet there is my experience of whether I'm walking in Him or not day by day.

The person criticizing this Biblical truth might be some kind of judaizer or hater of the Pauline epistles or something. Beware. Such criticism usually leads the person to a false gospel of works (which of course leads to hell).

Luca said...

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/satanic_subversion.htm

Anonymous said...

I was pretty shocked to read these words from craig gross...

We'll according to JESUS, he said that it is not what goes in us that defiles us, but rather is what comes out of us. The Jewish Leaders of JESUS day had a thing for always judging after the flesh, they loved to judge the outward appearance. They complained to JESUS, that his diciples were eating from the cornfield not having their hands washed. But JESUS told them that it was not a sin to eat with unwashen hands, but whatsoever came fourth from the heart, that defile a man. Defilement has to come out from us, in order for us to be guilty of defilement. We can put lust in our minds and in our hearts, but if that lust does not come out from our inside's, how then can that lust be a defilement, if it is not coming out from our minds and our hearts?JESUS compared defilement to the way our digestive system works. When we put something in our mouths and eat, it goes through an inward process and then it is cast out in the drought. It is the same with sin, with defilement. Physical contact must be involved in order for sin to even be a sin. A man looking at a woman, even if he's looking at her lustfully, if he's not committing the lust physically with the woman, then I don't see how it can be a sin. David sinned because he actually physically touched Bathsheba. A man has to commit lust, adultery, physically. Even if the lust is mentally, it has to come out of that man for it to be a sin.

When we know all things come from the heart - proverbs 4:23 ....and if a man looks with lust he has comited adultery - matthew 5:28 anyone who hates his brother is a murderer.. pretty sure thats a heart issue! how much clearer can you get. Sad that the state of the heart has been refuced to something so trivial and its become an outside in job... as long as we dont act it out its ok.. never addressing the heart. These people seeve me with their lips but their hearts are far from me - Matthew 15:28