Tuesday, July 2, 2013

Depart from Wicked People!

I wish this was KJV but decided to post, here is the KJV version of that verse.

Psalm 140

King James Version (KJV)
140 Deliver me, O Lord, from the evil man: preserve me from the violent man;
Which imagine mischiefs in their heart; continually are they gathered together for war.
They have sharpened their tongues like a serpent; adders' poison is under their lips. Selah.
Keep me, O Lord, from the hands of the wicked; preserve me from the violent man; who have purposed to overthrow my goings.
The proud have hid a snare for me, and cords; they have spread a net by the wayside; they have set gins for me. Selah.

There are lots of them out there and their numbers are growing. If you know that society is heading for a collapse, know this has to do with human sin and those who have left God far behind. I write about the tyranny, the control, the insanity, and it all has to do with human beings who have forsaken God.

 Cold, stiff-necked, uncaring, lovers of tyranny, abusive people who do not walk in godly ways but ungodly ones.  One way the wicked operate is via subterfuge and as children of the father of lies, they become specialized in the art of deception. Their numbers are growing out there, the world is waxing cold. I have seen too much wickedness and people praying against violence, in today's world that is more important then ever. Ever been minding your business and gotten jumped? It's happened to me. There is that old joke about every liberal being a conservative that hasn't been mugged yet. Working with violent youth in the inner city, I saw enough violence to last a lifetime. Sadly I know how bad things in this world can get though there are others who have seen far worse then me.  It's scary and dangerous too. Wrong place, wrong time, and danger can approach out of nowhere.

I also know what it is to deal with people who shockingly lack all empathy, and conscience. Those folks are out there too, and remember the sheep's in wolves clothing warnings just do not apply to the ones in the pulpit but plenty out there in the real world, who cover their poison under a false veneer.

Some have seen me write about sociopaths and narcissists [basically the psychology world's name for the wicked] on this blog before. One thing their numbers are not just among the powerful, the known, the famous, but you can know them and they can even be members of your own family or co-workers.

2 Thess. 3:2 And that we may be delivered from unreasonable and wicked men: for all men have not faith.

What does a Christian do when they realize they are dealing with a wicked person? In my own life, I have had circumstances where I've had to take these instructions very seriously. Wicked people will bring you down, they can even lead you into sin if you are not careful. They will bring you depression, anger, worry, fear and deep emotional pain. They will lie to others about you destroying a wide swathe of relationships. They will bring you to tears. They will elevate themselves in pride and tell you that you are a horrible person. What should a Christian do when they encounter someone who curses them out or shows absolutely no respect, rebuke them and if they repent, forgive but there are many who will not repent. What do you do then?

 The Bible is full of endless instructions regarding the wicked. The problem here, is many falsely think even unrepentant wicked doers are to be FORGIVEN and TOLERATED. Hey I was guilty of this, I followed the "be nice" message over and over, especially in my early days as a Christian when I thought being a Christian meant "being kind" above everything else. Convicted of our own wickedness and sin, many Christians get the false idea too, that Christians are never to judge others, and that is one of those worse messages too that lead Christians to give a place to the wicked.

Yes kindness counts, we are to be kind and loving to others, but too many today have been given a false message and that is they have been trained to give a place to the wicked even out of this kindness instead of what the Bible instructs. 

Hey I have been there. There are times I've had to sit back and think what am I doing? Even family ties be cautious there, if someone mocks your Christian faith, and lets say you have witnessed to them before and been rejected over and over, and they use foul language around you or hurt you, then that is a relationship you need to take another look at. Sometimes one can "care" about even a wicked person, but you need to be cautious, as to your own spiritual life and God's instructions. What does Jesus say about family by the way?

Matt 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

In my case, I am the ONLY Christian in my family. Things got worse and worse over the years, they did not like my open Christian expressions, even the most mild statements about the world situation and warnings, was bringing me major backlash. This included being mocked. This included their increased love of the world and wicked things. Jesus's words are true for many Christian lives.

With friends same thing? Are they kind people or not? And if not, why are you keeping company with them? I know people often are in places where they are around wicked people even for the sake of employment but there be careful too. Pray for God for a way out and do your best to depart. I worked a job with very wicked people, and while I was not a believer yet, I know the me of today would have made departure of the highest priority.

How many of us have dealt with those who have lied, cussed you out, or even mocked scripture? What are we to do?  How many of you have heard well meaning Christians say to you, "you need to let by bygones be bygones, and forgive and forget" when it comes to a wicked person.  Usually in telling you this, they will then quote Luke 17:3, forgetting one of the most important parts of the verse.

Luke 17:3
King James Version (KJV)
Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him.

They will tell you things like walking away is wrong. But what about those who do not repent? The Christian telling you to forgive and still interact with a wicked person is setting you up for more abuse, more snares and more problems.   Ignored is the biblical advice to SHUN the non-repentant WICKED.

God wants us to forgive those who are truly repentant but those who have not repented and hold to their wickedness that is another ballgame. This may sound harsh to some people out there in the world, but isn't that what the Bible says over and over in various ways? One thought I had is how am I going to hang around these wicked people and ask God for protection but then NOT depart myself? Isn't that a contradiction?

We are supposed to STAY AWAY from the wicked. We are not supposed to give a place to them.

1 Cor 5:11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.

2 Tim 2:16  But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.

Ezekiel 3:19 Yet if thou warn the wicked, and he turn not from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul.
Proverbs 25:26 A righteous man falling down before the wicked is as a troubled fountain, and a corrupt spring.

This is a good reminder for us as well.

Proverbs 24:19 Fret not thyself because of evil men, neither be thou envious at the wicked;

Don't fret but also too, get away from the wicked.

I wrote this article as a reminder to myself as well as to my readers!



Anonymous said...

Check out the latest popular media is trying to sell kids:

“We are all God in drag”

Love, Chuck Lorre of Big Bang Theory renown


We are the change. We don’t need God’s help, we ARE God. :(

Bible Believer said...

That's sick, I notice it has that whole false 'worship" the universe stuff with it too as well as the false New Age positivity. Total blasphemy.

Anonymous said...

Chuck Lorre is the architect behind a lot of "cutting edge comedies" like Roseanne (smart-mouth disrespectful wears-the-pants-in-the-house yelling woman who also promotes lesbianism), 2 and a Half men (sex addict guiding life choices of naive wimp and young boy), Big Bang Theory (science-is-god nerds in a show named for evolutionary theory).

They don't call it television "programming" for nothing.

Sorry to go on the wild tangent.

Anyway, we are required to be around wicked people to a certain degree, to be witnesses. We aren't to join them. Joining them is the failure of the modern "church" movements.

Kathy said...

It is difficult though, to avoid some family members. I figure I will continue to pray for them, as I feel there is nothing more I can do or say to influence them. (Or is there? Do I really just give up?)

Hate the sin. Love the sinner.

Bible Believer said...

Thanks for telling us about Chuck Lorre.

I think there is definite programming via the TV, and the sitcoms are the worse. I haven't watched a sitcom in years, nothing funny to me about them.

One can see the social influences they want to make. Roseanne, I watched years ago but even that show warped from supposedly normal working class family to where they won the Lotto-materialism and she had one unmarried daughter live with her boyfriend right in the home. So you know there they were desiring to influence people. Roseanne if you read her blog, definitely seems to be a product of "mind control" if you get my drift, some truth about 9-11 and warnings about "mind control" right out of her mouth, but the goddess worship promoted on her blog and other weird stuff speaks for itself.

2 and Half Men, yes isn't that Charlie Sheen's show, that is one they definitely have used. Didn't the boy from that show grow up and said he became a Christian and has left TV behind.

Hmmm he did:


Makes you wonder what he saw. I hope his conversion is real, but you know I am cautious about the "conversions" of the famous.

I do agree out in the world, one does have to deal with plenty of lost people. I think if they show themselves to be reprobates, etc, then we are to get as far away from them as is possible. [I know in work situations, this may be tougher]

Agree about not joining with them.

Bible Believer said...

Kathy, I agree about it being difficult to avoid family members. In some cases, however if one is dealing with reprobation [seared conscience], wickedness, abusiveness, mocking of the gospel, etc, the Lord may lead someone to depart from the relationship. Some Christians of course will be cut off from the other side too. One thing we have to be careful of is not putting family ties above God's commandments. I agree about praying for them.

Ephesians 511 Blog said...

A description of just "where" we all live is found in Psalm 72:14 -

"He shall redeem their soul from deceit and violence: and precious shall their blood be in his sight."

Deceit and violence is a perfect description of this planet.

Anonymous said...

What's hard for me is to be around people claiming Jesus, they say they pray to Jesus, but then they use profanity, tell vulgar stories, get drunk, tell lies, etc.
It's almost easier to be around people who do not believe and even mock my faith. At least they are being themselves and not double-minded.

I know someone who was wearing a shirt about praying to Jesus, but then she was stumbling around drunk with profanities galore coming out of her mouth and it was the hardest thing to watch.

But it almost seems to be a metaphor (is that the correct term?) for our times.

Like a video I saw of Justin Beber accepting an award saying he thanks God, he thanks Jesus Christ.

Or the christian heavy meal band dressed as zombies with blood around their mouths looking totally evil.

How can the two have anything to do with each other? But they want us to think you can mix evil and righteousness together.

Thanks for the encouraging post.

Bible Believer said...

Ephesians 5:11

I agree deceit and violence do rule this planet.

One thing to tell people is Satan is the prince of this earth.

Always dealing with people who blame God for how rotten this world is.

The false "Christians" live lives that are just like the world. Sleeping around, drinking, partying, cussing. What floors me is the ones who claim they are Christian and then go listen to bands like Black Sabbath. I wanted to say to one, you're kidding me right?

I would rather be around non-believers who tell me they don't believe rather then false Christians.The one wearing the Christian T-shirt cursing and getting drunk, yes, that is very bad witness.

These bands are almost like that, wearing "Christian" T-shirts, with their "christian" band names and then dress like zombies or slap up Pentagrams on their drum kit.

It is all double-mindedness. Hey this is where the easy believism has led, just say you are a Christian, and well even if your fruits come from the depths of hell, no one is going to take a second look!

They want to indoctrinate people into mixing good and evil. I think the false bands are definitely working that angle.

So we have to be careful of company with wicked non-believers but also careful of company with those who say they are Christians and are anything BUT.

Titus 1:16 - They profess that they know God; but in works they deny [him], being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.

Kayfabe said...

I just came across this article yesterday and it was very timely for me because Ihave been dealing with someone who says they are a Christian and yet threatened me with violence that was bizarre. I befriended this person again out of compassion but I should known better as I have a past with them. It's like God showed me what they were still about right away so I didn't go any further in my friednship with them. People refuse to take responsibility for thier actions and also think people owe them stuff. Unthankful and Unholy they are. All the scriptures mentioned are good and warning for us to take heed. Growing up here in L.A. I have seen much gang violence and I have been jumped myself a few times. Seems like the wicked can't go to sleep unless they commit some vile act.

Anonymous said...

I found these verses last night from Philippians

Philippians 3:17-4:1
King James Version (KJV)
17 Brethren, be followers together of me, and mark them which walk so as ye have us for an ensample.

18 (For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ:

19 Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.)

20 For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:

21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.

4 Therefore, my brethren dearly beloved and longed for, my joy and crown, so stand fast in the Lord, my dearly beloved.

Paul tells us, as he is in tears, that you can tell by people's conduct that they are actually enemies of Christ = the people who only think of, and live in, this world, and their end is destruction. I like his encouragement at the end to stand fast in the Lord.

Reading the bible for myself over the last few years brought a new awareness to the verses that tell us that satan is the ruler of the air, prince of this earth. I used to read it and not think a whole lot about it, but now I read those verses and I can see it more clearly, it's a reality, like a whole new level of understanding.

Anonymous said...

BB you are so right in this piece. It is CRITICAL to uproot nonbelievers from one's life. The bible is clear that lukewarm=nonbeliever. I had a situation a few days ago when a so called believer made me feel like a criminal because of one simple question. However, I already knew because she never had the genuine spirit of God upon her.

We have to discern who is true and who is false. You can tell the false believer by the following:

1. Don't talk about their faith in public.
2. Don't suffer persecution in their personal lives.
3. Gets offended easily
4. Has no desire to grow
5. Does things that contradict scriptures, such as gossiping or cursing.

These are indeed perilous times, and BB I agree, sometimes that paycheck come with a price. It's better to severe a job than to fall into sin.


Bible Believer said...

Kayfabe, I am glad this article could help yes, if someone is violent and saying they are a Christian, look at the fruits, the ACTIONS and RUN. Sometimes we have to be careful about our own compassion and view of the world realizing this world has many sociopaths and others that "do not play by the same rules". I am glad God warned you about them and to keep away. I have had to even depart from family, even one that cursed me out, unprovoked, I was tolerating too much for the sake of family ties. These parties hate and mock me for being a Christian.

Some today are very cruel, they do not care about people or have any empathy. Sadly I have encountered too many people like this. I was in a huge city my self for some years so understand seeing violence. LA is definitely full of gang violence, the place I lived for a short time had strong gang influence and I worked with some teens who were gang members earlier in life. Sorry you have been jumped and seen some of those things too. This will definitely make a person NON-NAIVE about what can go down in the world. What I saw in some ways knocked me out of my UU haze. My worldview was definitely altered by what I saw. The wicked enjoy hurting others.

Bible Believer said...

Thanks for that verse anon, yes those who have rejected Christ are enemies of the cross of Christ, and it is interesting the verse talks about their end being destruction--the reprobates out in the world? I agree about seeing it according to their conduct, and with some people you can tell if they are open to the gospel and then see the crowd who are openly HOSTILE to it. I am glad Paul gives us this encouragement.

When I realized basically that Satan runs this place, as the Bible warns us, the prince of this earth, this explained so much of the wickedness that sadly many of the non-believers blame God for. I've had that conversation with people more times then I can count. There was even someone I was talking with recently who wanted to give up and believed all their suffering came from God, and used those verses to explain things to them. Christians definitely need to be clear-minded about this stuff, or they will be crushed by this world and taken into despair or sin via the wicked. It gave me a whole new level of understanding, definitely.

Bible Believer said...

I agree, it is critical to depart from the wicked and especially those who are hostile to the gospel. I am witnessing to some long time friends [ones I knew earlier in life], the ones who are hostile long ago departed. I have lost lukewarm so called "Christians" too there, you may have church people OPEN to TRUTH and those closed to it. Every church I have left like the Calvary Chapel I lost friends at.

Sadly the so called "Christians" can be worse then then non-believers, I know that feeling exactly of being made to feel like a criminal, just for questioning anything. They get angry upon the mention of truth and usually will turn on you personally. I consider this a difference between those OPEN to truth and those who are CLOSED TO IT. The ones closed to it, instant response no matter how mild a point, will have almost instant anger at the messenger.

I agree with your list, Comfortable Christians who "fit in", no persecution, offended easily, not interested in growth, bad fruits. Any who seem to have a rejecting spirit towards God's Word avoid. IE you can work with someone in the church system, who is OPEN and WELCOMING of scriptures, but then someone who gets angry when you get your Bible out, watch out!

There is one friend I read Jude 2 or 3 too, you know that verse about those saved by fear, when she told me that having people get saved via fear of hell is a bad thing--probably something her pastor told her and I said NOPE sometimes fear of hell is a good thing and read this verse.

With jobs, be careful. I had a job with very wicked people as a nonbeliever, looking back it was not worth it. I did not copy their behaviors, but they sought to set me up, etc. Looking back what I put up with, the abuse and more just was not worth it whatsoever though I know at the time I was trying to survive. I did not know God yet.

Anonymous said...

Tough one.

I was mocked - in the least offensive way - by a friend but endured (for, after all, they are the ones going to hell without Christ, so what does it matter to me if I suffer some persecution) and eventually got a chance to preach the Gospel in full which opened their minds to the possibility of Christ.

There's a line somewhere and perhaps it is after they reject a full presentation of the Gospel :)

Sherry said...

Thank you for sharing this as the day of the Lord's appearing which is very close now comes. There are more wicked as the hearts of many wax colder and for those who truly love our Lord are shinning brighter. I have found as Christians we need to stay away from joining groups especially christian groups as there are many wicked on them disguising themselves as sheep. They are stains among our feasts. They are infiltrating the church as they are allowed to enter and remain unchecked the same applies on FB etc... Awhile back I had joined a christian group on FB only to be shown almost immediately by the Holy spirit there is a problem with wicked people getting on them. I tried to contact the creator of the group to no avail so I unjoined. Again I joined a group and found the same issue and again tried to contact the creator of the group to no avail. I un-joined the group. I have noticed that most join groups and in so doing along come the wicked. I profile so I know. and I have blocked many many so called christians who are in fact serving satan they are vampires witches warlocks prostitutes those who are pimps and so goes the list. It is heartbreaking to say the least. It is important to know based upon the Word of God how we are to conduct our new life in Christ so we can test the spirits. We can then know who is who by examining their fruit. I see many women of all ages getting caught up in the love of self which is idol worship and boy does Jezebel love it. The spirit of Jezebel either oozes from the persons FB etc.. or it is subtle and requires closer examination. I do not have 100's or 1000's of so called friends, for who of us beside Christ can really know all those people intimately? The reality is we can't. Be careful there are many more wolves than sheep and I assure you the Lord wants us to be separate from those who are stains among us. Again thank you!

Unknown said...

HI Anonymous,
We as believers have to comprehend that not one of us is righteous, as the Bible says, and we still sin. Our hearts are deceitful as well as our minds. The Spiritual War we fight everyday is not carnal. The Our Father Prayer clearly verses, ..and lead us not into temptation. This is precisely because God knows we will always be tempted whether we are in Christ or Not. In fact, temptation seems to increase, it comes even stronger, especially when we become new believers. We recognize the truth and the evil devices of the enemy. As believers we fight everyday not to sin. Those that truly repent and feel a heaviness and sadness of dishonoring God after the sin, are those that have truly repented. Our walk with God is increasingly difficult. Gossiping and Cursing may be the very sin and temptation the individual is warring against. God command's to be a doer of the word, not just a hearer of the word. Folks that truly want to change start with a renewal of the mind, focused in the Lords Word, and then other Folks want to Deliberately walk with one foot dipped into the World and one foot in Christ.