Chuck Smith Jr Writes N4TM: Chuck Smith Jr’s Response to Being a “Straight Ally For Gay Christians” among other things
Supposedly Chuck Jr. has appeared on News4themasses responding to what was written about him. [I only put supposedly as this being the Internet one has to be careful but read for yourself]. Make sure you see the comments below as well where some Christian commenters seek to set him straight. What is sad, is he shows his love of Catholicism and false books and teachers.
"You are misinformed regarding my contact with Roman Catholicism. I have never advocated for, or endorsed Thomas Merton. However, if he said something quotable that glorified God, I would not shrink back from quoting him. If Paul was comfortable quoting pagan poets and prophets, why should I avoid quoting someone whose beliefs I do not fully share?"Isn't this the message we hear from religious pluralists all over, that false religions holds truths and that while they are in error about "some" things, they have multiple truths, and of course the pluralist usually insists those come from "God" as well. Thomas Merton was a very ecumenical monk who hung out with Buddhists monks and sought after truths in Buddhism. Warning Catholic link.
Galatians 5:9 A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump.
He defends contemplative prayer. So he doesn't take his understanding of it from Catholicism but from elsewhere? Well contemplative prayer overlaps with false meditation in other religious traditions. That really makes no difference. Scripture has nothing that supports contemplative prayer in it. "
"I have never advocated Roman Catholic dogma. My understanding of “contemplative prayer” is not drawn from Roman Catholicism, but from the Scriptures and especially the Psalms–which have been the source of hymns, prayer, and spiritual songs of God’s people for millennia."The defense of false teachers is concerning. Your father is a famous evangelical preacher and this is the best he could do in warning someone around false teachers? Well we know Chuck Smith Sr. believes Catholics are Christians for sure now, and it seems his son does as well.
"I have read many Roman Catholic authors including John Cassian, St. Augustine, Anselm, and Thomas Aquinas (most bonafide Christian apologists have also read Anselm, Augustine, and Aquinas). Furthermore, my reading list includes several works by Russian and Greek Orthodox theologians. I have also read The Institutes of John Calvin (who was a great fan of Augustine and quotes him frequently) and a host of other theological works and biblical commentaries by evangelical and fundamentalist authors. Martin Luther was also deeply interested in contemplative spirituality and strongly endorsed the work “The Theological Germanica.” But the only books I read without filters are the sixty-six books of the Bible."
Didn't I warn that Thomas Aquinas helped send people to the stake? Yes I did.
"Thomas Aquinas wrote: "I answer that, With regard to heretics two points must be observed: one, on their own side; the other, on the side of the Church. On their own side there is the sin, whereby they deserve not only to be separated from the Church by excommunication, but also to be severed from the world by death. For it is a much graver matter to corrupt the faith which quickens the soul, than to forge money, which supports temporal life. Wherefore if forgers of money and other evil-doers are forthwith condemned to death by the secular authority, much more reason is there for heretics, as soon as they are convicted of heresy, to be not only excommunicated but even put to death."There is absolutely no discernment regarding these false teachers or the false doctrines he may pick up from the other Catholic and Russian Orthodox authors and teachers. How did Chuck Smith Jr. miss the warnings of Revelation or Revelation 17? The following sounds like it was written by a Catholic apologist instead of Chuck Smith Jr., son of famous Calvary Chapel founder Chuck Smith Sr.
"On the other hand, many Protestants have been misled by anti-Catholic authors who have invented historical connections between Roman Catholicism and ancient pagan religions (such as Alexander Hislop’s “Two Babylons”). "Here he basically makes it clear that he sees Catholics as Christian too and downplays the idolatry and falseness of praying to the dead.
"Not that I am defending everything that Roman Catholics around the world believe or do in the name of their religion. Nevertheless, I would not be surprised if the percentage of Roman Catholics who actually please God by walking with Him every day is at least as high as the percentage of Protestants who do so. Although I personally disapprove of praying to saints, I cannot believe that it is any worse than self-righteousness and hypocrisy."
One thing about all of this, is there are many ex-Catholics who leave and go to Calvary Chapel thinking it is a true church that will teach the Word of God. Where are they during these defenses of Catholicism? I do know there are probably many in that church today where if they learned about the ecumenical ties, the truth about Boykin and much of the rest that has been exposed on discernment blogs, it definitely would get them asking questions.
He goes on and says he never was an Emergent and denies that he spent a sabbatical in a monastery. At this point given what is written above, I see that as making little difference. Would you trust any pastor that couldn't even discern the falseness of Catholicism? Who didn't even have the discernment of the Holy Spirit helping them to realize the truth about the ecumenical movement? This isn't about finding flaws in people or any of the other things the ecumenically inclined complain about but warning people of the truth. That includes Catholics too who deserve to know the true Gospel and to have access to God's Word.
He is not happy about what was written about Lonnie. One can hear Lonnie on many videos presented on these blogs stating things himself that are extraordinarily questionable. All I had to do is see Lonnie and Kathyrn Khulman in action to know something was severely wrong there.
The rest concerns different details of News4themass's particular article.
It is always sad to see the same things written over and over, in defense of the deceptions. One day you always hope one of these types will wake up and break away from the status quo and start standing up for God. It's too bad, he seems to be following in the steps of his ecumenical father.
In this article I wrote some time ago where I was linking to an article from news4themasses, I added some information.
Chuck Fromm, Chuck Smith Jr. and Their Persecuted "Bible Study"
I found Chuck Smith Jr's [if that is truly him posting on news4themasses] comment odd.
"One of my uncle’s friends went on to slander me on blogs and in print, accusing me of spending a sabbatical in a monastery (I didn’t) "
He may be absolutely correct that he never spent a sabbatical at a Monastery, but back then I linked to his past blog now removed from the internet and posted this quote on that article as you can see where he says that a monk had profound influence on him and does admit time spent in a monastery.
Chuck Smith Jr's previous blog Reflexion has since been removed from the Internet. I went to the Wayback machine, and saw this entry.
I don't want to quibble about his time spent in the monastery though there seems ample evidence of some monastery time. That alone doesn't prove someone wrong, I grew up surrounded by priests, nuns and in various convents and visits to monasteries and Catholic churches and was later born again, but the sad thing is he remains in confusion, still believing that the Catholic church is "Christian", not realizing that the truth of God's Word and how many millions are lost in it's deceptions and that includes the thousands who live in monasteries and convents today.
I do wonder if Chuck Smith Jr. will have a new role to serve in Calvary Chapel one day as the one world church comes even more together. I do of course believe Calvary Chapel was a false church from the start. Perhaps Chuck Smith Jr's training was especially *Catholic* in orientation for a future purpose, who knows? It is sad to watch. Sadly so many are under sway of false preachers like this. One hears the same exact thing from all of them just about. The same sentences even.
In the above video he states:
"I want the real deal whatever that means and whatever it takes to get there so I've been exploring.." -Chuck Smith Jr.
I hope one day he does find the real deal in Jesus Christ not the 'cosmic christ" of contemplative prayer and Catholicism, where he is able to wake up to the deceptions of contemplative prayer and the false experiences he seeks. The same that happened to me as I left the UU, and the Catholic church and came into the truth. Whoever his father is even if he bears the pressures of being the son of a major religious figure, one can still be born again. Many Christians who come to truth and are born again, had families, fathers and others who never were saved.