Tuesday, March 12, 2013

Will Cardinal Peter Turkson Be the Next Pope?

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I'll put this article up with the caveat that on the last election I thought they were going to elect Cardinal Arinze and I called that wrong on a few message boards, so I could be wrong here too.

There does seem to be some evidence that they desire to match their false Malachy Prophecies to whoever is selected. The "last Pope" is supposed to be named "Peter" or have some references to "Peter the Roman".

I found this article to be of interest:

Top candidate to be next Pope has ties to creation of global economic system

Cardinal Turkson has said that "if God would wish to see a black man also as pope, thanks be to God". The Catholic Church chronicler Rocco Palmo called Turkson the lone Scripture scholar in the Pope's "Senate" and believes that his status as a potential "papabile " has been elevated due to his appointment as spokesman for Second Synod for Africa in 2009.
In response to the global economic crisis started in 2008, Cardinal Turkson together with bishop Mario Toso elaborated a proposal to reform the international financial system by creating a Global Public Authority and a Global Bank that consider the interest of all developing countries. The document of 40 pages was officially presented in October 2011 and criticizes the actual structure of International Monetary Fund and other institutions. - Project Avalon

For those who are long time readers of this blog, hopefully you saw these articles, if you have not read them, please do so. They are very relevant to today's recent happenings.

The Vatican Wants World Government #1: Setting Up For the Beast

The Vatican Wants World Government #2: Redistribution of the World's Wealth

Breaking News: Vatican Calls for Central World Bank

It seems to me they very well could pick the man, who will help bring the world system even far closer together. If one even thinks about how they are "integrating the gap" in Africa with those 35 nations having troops send to them, that would make even more sense.

 Cardinal Peter Turkson has called for a global world bank.

"In October 2011 Cardinal Turkson called for the establishment of a “global public authority” and a “central world bank” to rule over financial institutions that have become outdated and often ineffective in dealing fairly with crises. The document, Towards Reforming the International Financial and Monetary Systems in the Context of a Global Public Authority was very specific, calling for taxation measures on financial transactions. It notes that “The economic and financial crisis which the world is going through calls everyone, individuals and peoples, to examine in depth the principles and the cultural and moral values at the basis of social coexistence,” it said. The document condemned what it called “the idolatry of the market” as well as a “neo-liberal thinking” that it said looked exclusively at technical solutions to economic problems. “In fact, the crisis has revealed behaviours like selfishness, collective greed and hoarding of goods on a great scale,” it said, adding that world economics needed an “ethic of solidarity” among rich and poor nations"
 Don't forget paragraph 67 of Caritas in Veritate. written by Pope Benedict..

“In the face of the unrelenting growth of global interdependence, there is a strongly felt need, even in the midst of a global recession, for a reform of the United Nations Organization, and likewise of economic institutions and international finance, so that the concept of the family of nations can acquire real teeth. … for all this, there is urgent need of a true world political authority, as my predecessor Blessed John XXIII indicated some years ago. …They also require the construction of a social order that at last conforms to the moral order, to the interconnection between moral and social spheres, and to the link between politics and the economic and civil spheres, as envisaged by the Charter of the United Nations.” (Italics in original.)" 

The Vatican has not kept it secret for their plan in helping to form and/or develop the luciferian new world order at all, it's right out there, directly written, for anyone to read.


The global collapse, I always have believed was planned, and it will be made USE of, if you get what I mean...

"The economic and financial crisis which the world is going through calls everyone, individuals and peoples, to examine in depth the principles and the cultural and moral values at the basis of social coexistence. What is more, the crisis engages private actors and competent public authorities on the national, regional and international level in serious reflection on both causes and solutions of a political, economic and technical nature.
In this perspective, as Benedict XVI teaches, the crisis “obliges us to re-plan our journey, to set ourselves new rules and to discover new forms of commitment, to build on positive experiences and to reject negative ones. The crisis thus becomes an opportunity for discernment, in which to shape a new vision for the future. In this spirit, with confidence rather than resignation, it is appropriate to address the difficulties of the present time.”

I know it is long but they speak of the "common good" and reforming the entire world's economic system. Remember the Vatican works with the G20 and the global elites in implementing these plans.

From the document, I found this line too. Besides the horrific opposite meaning given to the warnings of the Tower of Babel right above it, this one stood out to me.

Think about this one...
In a world on its way to rapid globalization, the reference to a world Authority becomes the only horizon compatible with the new realities of our time and the needs of humankind. However, it should not be forgotten that this development, given wounded human nature, will not come about without anguish and suffering.

Christians will know how completely evil this all is. Whoever they choose as their new Pope, they will proceed with those plans. Revelation 13 specifically makes it clear we will be under a global system of luciferian power and control and the Bible has warned us of what is coming.


Kathy Bonham said...

Did you see this article? Interesting.


Scola, previously rumored to have about 50 of the 77 votes needed to take the papacy secured, the news will likely make some papal speculators take one giant step back before the white smoke.

Kathy Bonham said...

A story that might be the papabile equivalent of an "October surprise" popped up on the Guardian....

October Surprise

Anonymous said...

Man has to elect a guy that will be infallible when he sits in a magic chair? That's almost as funny as the old 80's slapstick movies.

Bible Believer said...

Well with my experience last time of thinking it'd be Arinze, I knew I could be wrong again, but this was just thinking aloud. I guess the journalists speaking about someone from Latin America or Africa were right. This Pope choose the name Francis.


VATICAN CITY (AP) — Argentine Jorge Bergoglio has been elected pope, the first ever from the Americas and the first from outside Europe in more than a millennium. He chose the name Pope Francis.

After announcing "Habemus Papum" — "We have a pope!" — a cardinal standing on the balcony of St. Peter's Basilica on Wednesday revealed the identity of the new pontiff, using his Latin name. Bergoglio had reportedly finished second in the 2005 conclave that produced Benedict XVI — who last month became the first pope to resign in 600 years.

The 76-year-old archbishop of Buenos Aires has spent nearly his entire career at home in Argentina, overseeing churches and shoe-leather priests.

Business Insider put this Bergoglio on the list


Scola was on it too. Interesting article thanks Kathy...

Anonymous said...

Pope Francis the 1st is now instated. The first Jesuit pope.

Bible Believer said...

Anon I agree about the Magic chair. That is basically what it is, elect some man, put him in a "chair" and he supposedly can come up with infallible pronouncements.

They say this one is focused on Social Justice, I get the feeling the name FRANCIS is based on PR, most of the world thinks St. Francis, was a GOOD guy who cared about the poor, etc.

Almost kind of reminds me of Pope John Paul, ....news is saying he already has a humble personality. Is this their way of trying to put a pleasant face on things?

Bible Believer said...

How come he is the first Jesuit? Were they not allowed to become Popes before?

Anonymous said...

First Latin American
First Jesuit
First with the name Francis

(sounds like a new direction for the church?)


Anonymous said...

Jesuits are a fraternal order that swears allegiance to the pope.

I am unsure why Francis is the first Jesuit.

Perhaps the direction the church is going in 'requires a jesuit'?

Anonymous said...

And voted in on the 13th...

3/13/13 as a matter of fact... Lots of interesting numbers there (occult numerology).

Bible Believer said...

Labby I think they are planning a new direction, definitely.

Anon, yes, there is probably a reason for a Jesuit.

I thought about today being the March thirteenth of 2013.

I saw this article posted. This is one cardinal I do not know much about though obviously given this blog you probably know I've kept track of a few of them.

Saw this...


"The extent of the church's complicity in the dark deeds was excellently set out by Horacio Verbitsky, one of Argentina's most notable journalists, in his book El Silencio (Silence). He recounts how the Argentine navy with the connivance of Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio, now the Jesuit archbishop of Buenos Aires, hid from a visiting delegation of the Inter-American Human Rights Commission the dictatorship's political prisoners. Bergoglio was hiding them in nothing less than his holiday home in an island called El Silencio in the River Plate. The most shaming thing for the church is that in such circumstances Bergoglio's name was allowed to go forward in the ballot to chose the successor of John Paul II. What scandal would not have ensued if the first pope ever to be elected from the continent of America had been revealed as an accessory to murder and false imprisonment

One would have thought that the Argentine bishops would have seized the opportunity to call for pardon for themselves and put on sackcloth and ashes as the sentences were announced in Córdoba but that has not so far happened.

But happily Their Eminences have just been given another chance to express contrition. Next month the convicted murderer Videla will be arraigned for his part in the killing of Enrique Angelelli, bishop of the Andean diocese of La Rioja and a supporter of the cause of poorer Argentines. He was run off the highway by a hit squad of the Videla régime and killed on 4th August 1976 shortly after Videla's putsch.

Cardinal Bergoglio has plenty of time to be measured for a suit of sackcloth – perhaps tailored in a suitable clerical grey – to be worn when the church authorities are called into the witness box by the investigating judge in the Angelelli case. Ashes will be readily available if the records of the Argentine bishops' many disingenuous and outrightly mendacious statements about Videla and Angelelli are burned."

Bible Believer said...

Cuando los curas jesuitas alzaron su voz de protesta contra los abusos del régimen de facto, el nuevo pontífice decidió alejarse de los temas políticos.

Jorge Mario Bergoglio es el nuevo Papa, de ahora en adelante conocido como Francisco I, ante la algarabía de los católicos, sin embargo en Argentina tiene varios críticos, sobre todo por su actitud frente a la dictadura militar.

Ncacido en Buenos Aires en 1936, Bergoglio, era hijo de emigrantes italianos. Ingresó en 1958 a la congregación Compañía de Jesús y de 1973 a 1979 fue provincial de los jesuitas en Argentina y un año después se convirtió en rector del seminario donde estudió.

Sin embargo la gran crítica que se le hace es que en la dictadura militar que azotó argentina, y en la que varios jesuitas alzaron su voz de protesta contra este régimen, por lo que fueron perseguidos, Bergoglio guardó silencio y se mantuvo alejado de cualquier tema político.

La frase que enunciaba cada vez que se le preguntaba su opinión sobre este tema es que el lugar de los sacerdotes eran las iglesias.

En 1998 fue nombrado como Obispo de la diócesis de Buenos Aires y en el 2001 cardenal.


Anonymous said...

Jorge Mario Bergoglio and silence in the military dictatorship in Argentina
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Source: Larepublica.Pe
March 13, 2013
Related Tags: Videla , dictatorship , Jorge Mario Bergoglio , Argentina , dictatorship , grandmothers of the Plaza de Mayo , Jesuits

When Jesuit priests raised their voices in protest against the abuses of the de facto regime, the new pope decided to stay away from political issues

Peru. Jorge Mario Bergoglio is the new Pope, henceforth known as Francis I, above the din of the Catholics, however in Argentina has many critics, especially their attitude to the military dictatorship.

Born in Buenos Aires in 1936, Bergoglio, the son of Italian immigrants. Joined in 1958 the Jesuit congregation from 1973 to 1979 and was provincial of the Jesuits in Argentina and a year later became rector of the seminary where he studied.

However the major criticism that is made is that in the military dictatorship that hit Argentina, and in which several Jesuits raised their voice of protest against this regime, so they were persecuted, Bergoglio was silent and kept away from any topic political.

The phrase he enunciated each time he was asked his opinion on this is that the place of the priests were the churches.

In 1998 he was appointed as Bishop of the Diocese of Buenos Aires and in 2001 Cardinal.

Direct Accomplice? Torture and murder?

Jorge Mario Bergoglio, was accused in his day of work with the military dictatorship in Argentina, especially after declaring two years ago as a witness in the trial of the Navy Mechanics School (ESMA) after allegedly reveal and remove two priests protection Jesuits missing in it.

The Buenos Aires exarzobispo always denied the accusations.

Bergoglio was the superior of the Jesuits in Argentina and retired in May 1976, the license religious priests and Orlandio Francisco Jalics Yorio, two subordinates in the Society of Jesus who had taken a position activist in defending the rights of the poor.

Both priests were kidnapped by a group of ESMA shortly after losing the protection by order of the new Pope, and was sent to the military school where they were tortured. The priests, according to journalist Horacio Verbitsky, suspected Bergoglio had betrayed.

Stolen Babies

Jorge Mario Bergoglio was also called as a witness, by request of the Prosecutor and the Grandmothers of Plaza de Mayo, in the trial for the systematic plan to steal babies born in captivity during the dictatorship.

He was called to testify after another witness, Estela de la Cuadra, submit several letters that his father had sent him to Bergoglio to help him in the search for her missing daughter and granddaughter. According to Argentine newspaper Pagina 12, Estela de la Cuadra Court asked: "How is that Bergoglio said that only ten years ago of stealing babies know why do not you cite?".

Faced with the Argentine government for equal marriage

As a member of the Episcopal Conference of Argentina - who became president for two terms - has attacked the Kirchner government for its policies and different positions on Catholics. The latest controversy was in 2012, with the approval of gay marriage in the South American country.

During the term of Nestor Kirchner, between 2003 and 2007, the Argentine president remained dialectical confrontations with Bergoglio, whom Nestor came to regard as the opposition. The Argentine media speak of an "troubled" that was lowered during the presidency of Cristina, although clashes were never disappear.

Anonymous said...

After Néstor Kirchner won the elections in 2003, Bergoglio criticized "exhibitionism and strident ads" the new president. The then president refused to attend several ceremonies Bergoglio led by the Episcopal Conference and made sure that there was no relationship between the Church and the Argentine Executive.

Bad relationships and verbal confrontations took Nestor to openly criticize the Church. "Our God is in everyone, but beware that the devil comes to all, to those we use pants and wearing robes," he added Kirchner.

With the arrival of Cristina Fernandez to power, relations improved, thanks to the contacts they had with the president to prepare the Church 2009 trip to the Vatican. But good relations began to break after Bergoglio Fernandez accuse the Government of feeding the "social tension" and charged that "for years the country is not in charge of the people."

However, with the announcement in 2010 that the government would approve a bill to legalize gay marriage, relations further deteriorated. Bergoglio sent a letter to the whole Church in Argentina in requesting that religious ceremonies mentioned "unalterable good marriage and family."

Cristina Fernandez dismissed the idea that it was a religious issue. "I worry about the tone that has acquired the speech, is seen as a religious moral issue and threatening the natural order, when in fact what they are doing is looking at a reality that already," said the president during the parliamentary process.

Related Tags: Videla , dictatorship , Jorge Mario Bergoglio , Argentina , dictatorship , grandmothers of the Plaza de Mayo , Jesuits
Source: Larepublica.Pe

Bible Believer said...

The last two anons are me--biblebeliever..putting up translation of that article.

Bible Believer said...


Anonymous said...

I found this picture, taken in 2007 with the current pope on the right side. Nice handshake...