Thursday, March 14, 2013

Warren, Piper and Others Welcome the New Pope

Many in the false preacher line are gung-ho obviously about the new Pope.

Warren: This isn't a surprise of course. Fasting and prayer for the harlot's Cardinals, and I used to have Christians who claimed to me that Rick Warren stood against the false Catholic church. I suppose the "not everything is different is demonic line" is supposed to lead people to accept Catholicism. Piers Morgan as far as I know is an extreme liberal who promoted gun control so much it made for protests webwide.


John Piper needs to do a reread of the book of Revelation to find out what actually happens. Reforming of the Catholic church, you got to be kidding me!


The culture war folks get their message in too.




Isn't that New World stuff odd? Kind of like just add ORDER and you have NEW WORLD ORDER.

To be expected:


For the Orthodox who post comments on my blog insisting that the Orthodox church sees the Pope as a false leader:


29 comments:

Anonymous said...

False teachers, all of them. Rick Warren the false teacher, no surprise there. John Piper has always been a false teacher as well.

And no surprise with Bauer and Palin. The government is filled with jesuits and their paid supporters.

I have learned to use catholicism as one of my litmus tests. If a "Christian minister" is okay with catholicism, they're not a Christian minister at all. That's just one very effective litmus test.

Bible Believer said...

That's a good litmus test though of course we need to be aware of those who speak of Catholicism's errors but in back rooms make deals with jesuit and Catholic advisors. Since Calvinism is a daughter of Rome I guess the Piper statement shouldn't surprise anyone either. That's true about the Jesuits and paid supports in government.

Douglas Andrew Willinger said...

I have heard anti-Romish people use the term "Catholic" as a self identity near-synonym for universal, and others that reject the term entirely as having at least too much baggage.

A though that comes to me concerns a similar sounding word, of a sect that was brutally suppressed by the RCC "catharism":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catharism

Since we, or I, have used the terms "reformation" and "counter reformation" - what comes next ...
"Christian Catholic", "Christian Catharian" - after all "reformation" is not the same as destruction or obliteration.

Perhaps my CCR blog header can provide something: "... the Vatican's Jesuit Order..."

Also a thought from my Mom, who was raised RCC but broke away during the mid 1970s due to their insufficient regard for the Bible, that the Vatican shall become a museum.

Bible Believer said...

There are Protestants who have retained that word, I think it is better to be tossed out. I don't think universal is a positive word in that it illustrates a BROAD WAY instead of the narrow way. With the Cathars, on Catholic websites they all say they were Gnostics, I do not know if that is rewritten history. ARe we going to hear the truth from Rome, about the Albigensians and the rest? It would take more study.

With the Reformation, Rome cannot be reformed it was rotten from the start. I question even that word....but I do agree with your title of your blog that they continue their Counter Reformation efforts to this day.

And since most of those Protestant groups KEPT the CORE errors of Rome such as the Eucharist and watered down versions of the mass and sacraments that is a problem.

No the word Catholic needs tossed out.

I am glad your Mom broke away. The Vatican is a museum now in some ways, a museum to paganism and the occult.

Anonymous said...

Since Calvinism is a daughter of Rome

You need to study your church history pal. The doctrines of grace were hated and still are hated by Catholicism. They love the false freewill gospel, and killed Calvinists for renouncing Roman Catholicism. Rome loves the false freewill gospel.

Anonymous said...

"You need to study your church history pal. The doctrines of grace were hated and still are hated by Catholicism. They love the false freewill gospel, and killed Calvinists for renouncing Roman Catholicism. Rome loves the false freewill gospel."

Get real. John Calvin was a tyrant and murderer. The murderer of Micheal Servetus, and 58 people who ranged from 16 to 80 from 1541to 1546. And Calvinism is an unbiblical mess. And then to talk about Catholics persecuting protestants, when it was protestants who were persecuting Baptists!

I think of protestantism as catholic lite. It only dates from the sixteenth century and it kept alot of the unbiblical nonsense from catholicism. It also attacked real christians for not buying into protestantism. What was the point of standing up to Rome for their errors, just to go and keep some of those same errors?

Anonymous said...

Also, as far as the "free will gospel". There is only one Gospel.

(John 3:16) "For God so loved the WORLD, that he gave his only begotten Son, that WHOSOEVER believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."

(Romans 10:13) "For WHOSOEVER shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved."

(John 6:40) “And this is the will of him that sent me, that EVERY ONE which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.”

(1 Timothy 2:3-4) " For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, who desires ALL MEN to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth."

Anonymous said...

Anonymous at 6:35 pm is so wrong. Because calvinism is truly a daughter of Rome, having come from Romish Augustine. Calvinism is a doctrine of demons, and the fact is that the same lordship salvation lie in calvinism, came from Rome. The two struggle against each other for power, but as for theology, they are the same when it comes to the roots of their beliefs. And John Calvin was a murderer and the founder of a horrifying police state.

Bible Believer said...

I agree Calvinism is a daughter and a doctrine of demons. The majority of Calvinist churches are ecumenical with Rome. The ones that are not still have retained many of their errors and look to Rome's "history, councils and yes Augustine".

http://galatiansfour.blogspot.com/2010/10/why-i-am-not-calvinist.html

I think of protestantism too more as catholic lite. Most kept the Catholic errors.

http://galatiansfour.blogspot.com/2012/02/daughters-protestant-churches-1-altars.html

Bible Believer said...

Think about it PROTESTANTISM, is even named by the Catholics.

The PROTESTERS.

Notice their name even defined that way...by their PROTEST.

and anyone who spouts off about "church history" usually I know at that point to be careful since most of the history is false and written by Rome.

Anonymous said...

The struggle between Catholicism and protestantism is really no different then the struggle between the fraternities within Catholicism. You had the Dominicans, Franciscans, Gregorians, and Jesuits fighting back and forth over who would have power over the papal throne. The modern appearance of "unity" in the Catholic church is only because due to the media and the internet, They no longer have anywhere to hide their sins from the people, and therefore all the evil committed during their "happier times" is now more exposed then ever, though they never had anywhere to hide it from God.

For there is nothing hid, which shall not be manifested; neither was any thing kept secret, but that it should come abroad.
Mark 4:22

Anonymous said...

"and anyone who spouts off about "church history" usually I know at that point to be careful since most of the history is false and written by Rome"

Correct. It is made-up false "history" written by Rome.

Anonymous said...

Just to let you know, it seems that N4TM photostream is no longer an active link. Also, Jude 3times seem to no longer exist. Plus, the fanatic for jesus link is wrong. Tho one only need to click on the home button to get its front page.

news4themasses said...

Yeah, no surprises. Here's another one that was not a shock but still very nauseating. I was traveling out of state and listening to a Contemporary Christian radio station (right there the pious will hate me and not listen to the rest of what I say but hold on it gets worse) and the lady DJ (see I told you a woman working on a Contemporary Christian radio station is worse but wait) and she was commenting on the "newly elected" pope. She said, "The new pope is a humble man and he "INTENTIONALLY" wore a wooden cross instead of an ornate golden cross..." Blah blah blah. Sheesh, so the pope is "living intentionally" with Ron Carlson! lol. Sick. Sick. These "Christians" are so lost. Anyway, I know not to have high expectations listening to a "Christian" radio station but still! Next up a liturgy sung by Rick Warren and his choir boys Chuck Smith and Don Stewart for pope Francis!

Anonymous said...

I have to disagree with you on this one. Protestantism is nothing like Catholicism. It was the Protestants who wanted to translate the Bible into languages that people could actually understand. Many Protestant sacrificed their lives trying to translate and print bibles.

news4themasses said...

Bible Believer, Anonymous is correct, I don't have a photo stream on Flick R anymore, haven't for a long time. I only have my blog and a Twitter Account. If anyone wants to follow me on Twitter you have to request a follow. I tweet news items mostly with the exception of an occasional random thought.

Bible Believer said...

Thanks Anon, well I will have to fix those links, maybe think of a few other decent websites to add in place of the others that have gone defunct. Thanks News4themasses too.

Bible Believer said...

Anon, many of the Protestants during the Reformation were good sincere people, who truly loved God and you are right God did use the Reformation to bring us God's Word. However the Protestant churches many are daughters and retained the errors of Rome. Especially today they have become even closer to "Momma Rome" via the ecumenical movement and especially after Vatican 2.
Sure there are off shoot denominations who reject the ecumenical movement, may even call the Pope out as antichrist, even speak of sticking close to scripture, but sadly have kept way too many errors.

See this article where I explain more and distinctions I wanted to make about Protestantism..

http://galatiansfour.blogspot.com/2012/02/re-daughter-protestant-article.html

Bible Believer said...

I can tell with this Pope they are playing up the humble and relates to the poor meme. The name was chosen for a reason, even much of the non-Catholic world celebrates St. Francis of Assisi, as a would be environmentalist, and caretaker of the poor. One thing to remember about the Vatican is it is showtime for the masses and while they are entrenched and their power and evil, they do sometimes play the gambit, of playing to the masses. I even found myself wondering if they would vote in some kind faced guy to make up for the last one. People are so faked out, by the play acting. All the global elite have to do is cry a few crocodile tears over starving children in an African country or Latin American one, play act like they are living POOR, and CARE for the LITTLE guy, and the masses lap it up. I wanted to puke, when I read about some World Vision loving megachurch decking out the church "stage" in SLUM decor, seriously they decorated it to look like a third world slum, so the people in the pews would give more money. Hey I don't think shared liturgies between Rick Warren and the Pope are an impossibility. I am wonder what this one has up his one world religion sleeve. I figure the one world government sleeve will be the Peter Turkson focus on the central world bank after more world economies "collapse".

Bible Believer said...

Ah yes, this Pope is majorly playing the HUMBLE card...

http://www.christianpost.com/news/pope-francis-jesus-not-pope-at-the-center-of-the-church-92023/

The Pope worships a false jesus anyway, but notice the new self effacement? As one commenter says at the article, if he really means it then why not abolish the papacy?

""Right now, we don't have a very good relation with creation," the pope said."

I wonder if they will use this one to advance the enviromental agendas, would make sense.

news4themasses said...

yeah the MSM is trying to spin this Jesuit as one who fought the 'elite' rich in Argentina. This 'pope' is for the poor and wants to make the Catholic Church 'for the poor.' Ironic that a man who supposedly against the excesses of the rich is now the richest most powerful person on the planet. He's got a deep purse able to probably wipe out poverty in a few countries. He's a joke and him taking walks among the 'common' people will only get him shot in the end. Then the next pope will be the AC.

Bible Believer said...

Hi news4themasses, yeah you are right, they are trying to present this guy as one who "fought" the elite, what a joke that is. The left vs right shell game was fought on a more intense level in Latin America with communists vs. fascists doing their thing. Liberation theology and all that nonsense. So yes they are pushing him forward as "caring about the poor", remember for the world government to be "sold to the masses" they have to act like they are going to be 'saviors' of this world, and advance the whole United Nations lie of "ending poverty" while they build up their mountains of gold. You are right, he could end poverty in a few nations right now. The walks among the "common people" [maybe they choose them and set it all up] is just more of the showtime.

Here is some latest about this Pope:

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/345925

Melissa Hopkins said...

This blog is such a blessing. I have been seeing this stuff for the last several years, recently really seeing everyone's involvement with mysticism and the occult. Thank you for sharing so much more adding to what I have been seeing.

Melissa Hopkins said...

This blog is such a blessing. I have been seeing this stuff for the last several years, recently really seeing everyone's involvement with mysticism and the occult. Thank you for sharing so much more adding to what I have been seeing. Lewisdt.com,has a LOT of occult symbolism articles you might be interested in. The dove origins are there, lots of good information. He is actually a middle school science teacher, that is his site for his students and their parents. You will find a world of information there to add to your symbolism postings. Blessings in His Name!

Bible Believer said...

Hi Melissa welcome to the blog

Glad you like the blog, thanks for your encourgaement, you will see occult and mysticism in a variety of areas. I don't have time to post on it all but it's everywhere. That website you shared is marked too, I think he is a Catholic and has pro-Catholic papers on there. Maybe a Trad Catholic of sorts since most of the Catholics support evolution but there are exceptions.
The weird incorporation of Alice in Wonderland too is a marker. Story used for mind control programming and with symbols of the occult.

He wrote:

"The truth of this concept is masterfully illustrated in the trial of Alice from Lewis Carroll’s Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass. A poem is to be used as evidence in court to prove that Alice stole tarts from the Queen. "

Science and other disciplines are infused. Everyone thinks science is not biased, that it's objective, that is one of the biggest deceptions out there.

Bible Believer said...

When I say marked, it's all over, the pyramid, etc.

Catholicism could be the actual religion or "cover" religion if you get my drift.

The Catholic church with it's false notions is there affecting even science.

Melissa Hopkins said...

I agree, I did not even see that on there, thank you for pointing that out.

William Sculley said...

Congratulating a person for doing his best to follow God in the way he knows how and reaching the pinnacle of what his faith says is leadership...

Yeah. That isn't calling him true.

Bible Believer said...

You think the Popes follow God....

serious serious error, but then I know you remain trapped in a false religious system.