– Upton Sinclair
Caveat before I begin this, There are exceptions to this rule, men who are truly following God and preaching His Word out there. I've known a few, but this is an article I want to write based on what I have seen and heard out there. Make sure you have read this article if you have not:
Keeping Them Ignorant In The Pews
I thought about calling this one "Keeping Them Ignorant in the Pulpits" but then thought that would be too harsh and didn't want to malign the few good guys out there.
I have been finding out, I do not want to talk to ANY pastors anymore. Some of the conversations have gotten strange. I think about the times I was looking for churches, and also even calling and trying to find bible studies to go for Christian fellowship.
Most of my readership here, is well informed, and Christian, and know what is going on. Why are the numbers so rare among the pastors? Is there are a "I don't want to know" mentality that allows brains to be shut off for the sake of the church boards, fitting in and keeping the numbers in seats? When one has to preach an "exciting sermon" every week rather then a Holy Spirit inspired one, perhaps the self consciousness in such an endeavor, has a person even more focus on "Am I doing this right?" "Am I fitting in?" I've written about what the Jesuit influenced seminaries are doing to pastors out there. We know there are the knowing deceivers, who I do not think feigning ignorance would beyond their game plan. The truth is too, the line is drawn with those the Holy Spirit is teaching and basically those who are NOT being taught by the Holy Spirit AT ALL.
I can understand a humble man called of God who never went on to any higher education, and any wisdom of this world. Give me that guy even if he knows only what it took to be born again, and what he has read in his own Bible and what the Holy Spirit showed him, sometimes I think if I lived in the middle of Appalachia, I could perhaps have a chance of a local church or Christian fellowship. Give me those who are SINCERE. My head hurts because the numbers who aren't is pretty high.
You all know there is the snooty academia set, who seem like they know so much, but know so little. You all know the types that think Obama is a great president and that gun control will solve all the violence in America. There are of course the right sided academics, who speak of church history and culture wars, but lack God-given wisdom on human nature. Some in the evangelical world have the talent to deceive that is awe-inspiring using subsets of subsets of theological inquiry, save for the Holy Spirit. Remember the Nephilim stuff I warned about? How many avenues of confusion are there? Plenty.
But what about the suit jacket and tie set who live in the suburbs and claim a long list of letters after their name, who tell me they do not know what the word ecumenical or Dominionism means? I clasp my hands to my head remaining polite, with that sinking feeling in the pit of my stomach. They've never heard of the phrase "one world religion"? They've been a fundamentalist or other preacher for 20 years, and that concept is "new"? I've had a few conversations that probably would boggle a few minds out there.
You all don't want to know the number of strange conversations I've had with church preachers, when I was doing the church search, or bible study search, where this sort of ignorance always came up. You never can talk to some of these guys either like a human being, it's all pontificating on high. This is like an auto mechanic saying "I don't know what an alternator is, or a dentist saying "I don't know what a molar is." Am I strange to wonder why extreme voids in their knowledge even exist? Now remember faith is not a "what do you know" contest, there's many going to heaven, who just knew enough to know God's love and be born again, but this is something I've thought about.
When I talk to the pastors, I don't think I am being a smarty pants asking complicated questions about the book Malachi or of complicated heresies like soul sleep, but just trying to find an actual bible believing church. I found only two, one a charismatic one, and another that even used the KJV but kept multitudes of errors. They always treated me like I was the first person who ever asked them a basic theological question in their life.
Am I sinning to even write this article? Maybe I am too prideful, acting like a know-it-all and pride goeth before a fall and all. But, I have to admit, it bothers me that they seem to know so little. Over the years, I have had to define these two words to the majority...Dominionism and ecumenical. I can understand the man or woman in the street not knowing these words but don't they use these words even in the mainstream fallen away Christian magazines like "Christianity Today"? Are they just playing dumb to not answer my questions when I am trying to find out where they stand or believe when it comes to their churches? When they say to me, "I do not know what that means", I am of too polite of a nature, to say, "You got to be kidding me right?". I usually explain the best I can, but by then I know the best thing is to move on.
I've talked to many of them. Remember how I told you all, I was searching for a church home far and wide and even have searched for bible studies to attend to find Christian fellowship? The search has been done for some time. I've written about this a little bit already. There are others of you in my boat too, having left with heartache many false churches or trying to find one within your community or within a decent drive to it. You try to appeal to some of these pastors always seeming to hit those same brick walls.To be honest, I feel like I have talked to the same guy over and over.
Some of us have tried the approach in finding other Christians via Bible studies and more, but one thing you find is at best, you find yourself witnessing at groups like that, or trying to share truths, if you find a place to go that isn't pastor barricaded and where a few like-minded or open thinkers may exist but at worse feeling that sinking feeling of seeing so many people who are tied to the church system totally that even speaking of churches falling away is enough to offend them.
Amos 3:3 Can two walk together, except they be agreed?
Independent Bible studies outside of mainline liturgical churches which of course are no option at least in my area seem extraordinarily rare. All seem to be supervised by pastors and with their full involvement or relegated only to Wednesday night with the pastor leading the show and none of the give and take and personal approach of what most of us consider a normal "Bible study". The other day, a very nice person I know, but who is still in the church system told me, "You must compromise Bible Believer, what good is it doing you to remain alone outside the churches? You are missing out!" She means well, and she knows I miss Christian fellowship, but what price do you pay in seeking it out? I laughed and said something along the lines, "God would tell me to leave" and "Well they'd toss me out anyway once I'd open my mouth a too few times." No this doesn't mean confronting during a church service or doing anything like that but even just personal conversations.
You find out quick, that a dead church or one teaching false things is a bad place to be. God will tell you get out. Can you sit there smiling while some pastor praises Glenn Beck or Mother Teresa or reads from three different [all false bibles] during a Bible study? I couldn't either. If you are going to some place now and facing that time where you think, why are they falling for this and that, or thinking every time you open your mouth, that no one understands what you are talking about. I've been there. Trust me on that.
I get tempted you know, the devil says things to me like, "you've been a Christian without any local fellowship except for a couple individuals going on 7 years, where is this going to end up?" But you know, lets go back to what I wrote on the scattered sheep article, and others, could we be in the time where the falling away is now almost completed? Outside of extremely rare independents, where is a decent church? Even unbelievers today tell me time and time again, that the churches are so rotten all you have to do is open up a newspaper to see secular news. A lot of IFB pastors by the way, even still hold to the church system. A few good ones out there, will admit, yes there is a falling away and many people are in the place where there is no good church but there are many thundering out there, in all denominations that to be out of church is to be in sin. How many but those most honest who make their living via the churches are going to admit, there is a long line of people departing?
I had one old pastor I could sharpen a little iron with but sadly I seem unable to have changed his mind about how the "right" is deceptive, though in his case, he is sincere, and to me that makes all the difference. Even the sincere ones seem rare. I still find myself asking though "How come God isn't showing him these things?" I've told him direct. I believe he is born again, but sometimes it's really hard for me to understand, I don't know everything either. I try to meet people where they are at, and I know it took me time and years to learn many things myself or be shown them. There are many sincere folks even still within the church system who simply don't know. Remember God in Revelation 18 calls for MY PEOPLE to come out of her. I was absolutely clueless on such things as Christian Zionism, even just 4 or 5 years ago. I don't want to become some shrill person, who lacks grace and understanding towards people.
But I have to admit, with a lot of the conversations with pastors, I left the conversations in person whether it was on the telephone or in person, very disappointed and dejected. I never fought anyone or got in any arguments though I stated what I believed. But you notice, it's hard to talk to so many of them. There is an empty space there of disconnection. It has to be spiritual. It is something that is very saddening.It makes you wonder if these times have come NOW:
Amos 8:11 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord GOD, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the LORD:
I suppose I would know it right off, if I met another one with the Holy Spirit indwelling. There would be interest and excitement in the things of God and desire for truth. The conversations would go a lot different.
PS: I question the very idea of a church pastor. I believe the Bible has set out roles for church elders and teachers, etc, but the "one man show" came out of the error of the Nicolaitans. Most of the church system, is under the "one man show" system.
1 Peter 5:1-4
King James Version (KJV)
5 The elders which are among you I exhort, who am also an elder, and a witness of the sufferings of Christ, and also a partaker of the glory that shall be revealed:
2 Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind;
3 Neither as being lords over God's heritage, but being examples to the flock.
4 And when the chief Shepherd shall appear, ye shall receive a crown of glory that fadeth not away.