Wednesday, November 14, 2012

Preppers and God



Have any of you noticed how prepping is getting big in this country? By the way, I have no problem with preppers as people and there those who are committed Christians. I even have a couple friends long distance who participate in the "prepping lifestyle". I believe there are many people God is  instructing to "get ready" whether to take care of themselves or of others, when hard times hit.
Many preppers are "new world order aware" and awake to what is going on which is an asset. There are some people who were sitting in NYC and NJ last week who I am sure, probably regretting mocking some of those "crazy" preppers

As you know, I think modern life is not all it's cracked up to be, and as people moved off the land, and away from family and friends, it just made everyone more vulnerable to being controlled via the global elites. We have lost valued old time skills, such as gardening, canning, building things, and basic survival. I certainly do not have any outside of knowing how to bake bread from scratch and building a fire from sticks learned at a Girl Scout camp. Many people who grew up in suburbs and cities, never learned some of what Grandma took for granted. As society grew more complex, people grew more dependent in many unpredicted ways.

The preppers are right about many things, the stores clean out everytime there is a storm, and big storms, watch out!  If you have ever been in a hurricane, blizzard or other event, you probably know what I am talking about.


But I have concerns about some aspects of prepping. One thing about prepping it costs money, some people who are poorer may manage to keep a week of bottled water, a few lanterns and canned meat, but there are many living paycheck to paycheck who are not going to be able to store a few years worth of food, gas masks, special clothing, tools, or even own the land or house with a fireplace or wood stove, for alternative methods of heating or growing their own food. Every time a storm hits and the lights go out, and if you're somebody living in an apt, that is all electric run, you may question the wisdom of that but then what do you do, if there is no money for a mortgage or any land? You do what you can and trust in God to help you and start praying.

Read the lists of prepping supplies and the costs even for your basic prepping lifestyle, can run into the thousands of dollars. Everything from wood stoves, land to grow things on, cans for canning. This is not for the paycheck to paycheck crowd or for those who were separated from farm and family in the previous generation before they were even born.

Hey I have read magazines like Backwoods Home and others and know there has to be some expendable income in play to many of these things. People in the city are especially vulnerable. Sometimes I have to admit, I got tired of watching on news websites some people on the comment sections lambasting those for not preparing before Hurricane Sandy and say "What's wrong with those people?" or "It's their fault, they didn't prepare!" . Even today, I was reading some folks on a right-wing website showing anger at disabled elderly people who got trapped in a 37 floor building in the aftermath of Sandy, where they said, "Well they choose to live there!" Having known big city life, many are living paycheck to paycheck and the end of the month, the larders have grown short. For the old and impoverished they take what they can get. So there are people who did not have much of a choice while others were not wise but the assumption that everyone can "get ready" is a false one.

It seems there is a dog eat dog kind of mentality growing out there, this isn't everyone of course, but we are seeing the negative attitudes growing in the every man for himself culture. This isn't every prepper, but some can go overboard with the me first and "I'll survive at all costs" mentalities. Remember the media is pushing that stuff day and night every which way.  What does the Bible say in terms of helping others? One thing to ask yourself if it all goes bad, are you going to follow the law of the jungle or the law of God?  Spiritual preparation is the most important.

2 Cor 9:6-15 But this I say, He which soweth sparingly shall reap also sparingly; and he which soweth bountifully shall reap also bountifully.

7 Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver.

8 And God is able to make all grace abound toward you; that ye, always having all sufficiency in all things, may abound to every good work:

9 (As it is written, He hath dispersed abroad; he hath given to the poor: his righteousness remaineth for ever. 

One strain of falseness I see on the false right wing side, is the self reliance at all costs stuff, with Ayn Rand philosophies married to social darwinism that is anything but Christian. This isn't every prepper either, but there can be the taint, of pride in someone who thinks they are ready for anything and can outlast whatever is thrown at them. The left is false too in their exploitation of the poor but as people know I have confronted the right here too. Visit your average website on the "right", and the message's all over are the poor are a bunch of "deadbeats." They supposedly are the cause of the debt instead of endless wars and the dismantling of the manufacturing system in America. Compassion for those facing hardship is diminished. Self reliance is a key phrase in prepper culture, and sure there can be some positives in taking responsiblity but be warned of those who take that too far, and get into "survival of the fittest" mode.

I have been thinking how prepping is arising out of disconnected culture, where community has broken up in America, where the every man and household for itself stuff is holding sway! Sure there are some communities that join together even in prepping, but in thinking about this, it seems it really has gone to the extreme. When some folks are literally wanting to turn their homes into bunkers and take to the wilds, it means that something has shifted in a society. We don't need to debate the need, I understand their motives, but it is something to notice.  It really says a lot about the levels things have gone and how people feel so vulnerable in a society that seems to be cracking at the seams, and where there is a disaster around every corner.  It really shows how in American society, the ennui, the loneliness, the detachment from other people is playing out. It's making people afraid. Even the non-believers know something has shifted.

One disturbing thing though, I have seen too many trusting in their stuff. Think about this: were there any Sandy hurricane victims who saw their preps washed out to sea? Some may say "Maybe a prepper would never live too close to the ocean!" but one thing so many things can happen in this world, you can't be ready for EVERYTHING. If you are prepper thinking those storages of food, medical and heating supplies will automatically save the day, there are endless unforseen circumstances from others collecting up your foodstuffs to needing to evacuate. Maybe I've read too many World War II memoirs, when chaos ensues, shelves and shelves of supplies aren't going to be a hedge against every calamity.  It's impossible.

Matt 6:20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:

Here is where trust in God comes in.

What does the Bible say about preparing? Well here, these verses follow with the be awake and be ready. Some preparations can be led by God. If God gives you the resources to make something happen and you feel led in prayer to prepare certain things, then do so.

Proverbs 22:3 A prudent man foreseeth the evil, and hideth himself: but the simple pass on, and are punished

Luke 22:36 Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

Proverbs 21:20 There is treasure to be desired and oil in the dwelling of the wise; but a foolish man spendeth it up.

Proverbs 35:31 The horse is prepared against the day of battle: but safety is of the LORD. 

But overall, one is to trust in God to meet their needs and not live in worry and fear.

Philippians 4:19  But my God shall supply all your need according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus.

Matthew 6:24 Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own. 

Now remember I am not saying prepping is "wrong",there are those, God is leading to prepare ahead of time, but there are many things to think about in regards to it. What are your thoughts? 



50 comments:

JL said...

There is so much truth to this commentary. You brought up a good point in the article. What would a prepper do if a flood destroys all that they have? What about the looters going door to door, attacking people that appear to have something. How can the poor prep, as prepping cost a lot of money. See I think all of these things are a test to see if we are going to trust God for our needs. The poor have no choice to trust God, but those with money...it will be hard to trust the Lord, because they are used to relying on themselves. There is a difference between saving and hoarding. This world is not our home. What good would it do for a prepper to save for all the disasters that could happen, and then die of a heart attack the next day. I ponder those things

Allen Bishop said...

The worrisome aspect of prepping, is the mentality of "me" vs the world.

There is a sort of smug, self-righteousness amongst many of the preppers I know.

Like a sadistic, "get what you deserve" attitude.

It's more worldly corruption, to harden hearts. Great point with verse about building treasures in the kingdom that doesn't suffer from moths and thieves.

I think a lot of people lose sight of the fact that, no matter how many cans of beans you've got, you won't live forever; nobody does, at least not on this earth.

Be wary of preppers whose sole investment is in firearms...

JL said...

@Allen...you know what...your right...preppers do have that self-preservation spirit about them. They have this "i've got mine" mentality. I dont think Christ wants us to act like that? How do we balance it out? I dont have any money. I dont even own a tv set? What is the right mindset?

Kayfabe said...

The way I have been preparing for these perilous times is to be a minimalist. I have gone thru my garage twice to get rid of stuff. I refuse to buy new furniture or appliances. I don't buy a lot of toys either. I rent a big townhome for me and my three kids but early next year God willing I am going to move to a two bedroom apartment. Just keep expenses down and try to keep everything as simple as possible. Try to stay debt free. Trying to prep by hoarding supplies will drive you crazy and will bring a stress of it's own

Marion said...

BB...you said,

"There are some people who were sitting in NYC and NJ last week who I am sure, probably regretting mocking some of those "crazy" preppers."

Except, for those whose homes were thrown down, blown down, or burned dow, with all their "preps" inside! What did all that "prepping" do for them?

I think prepping for a short term crisis is wise, but for the Christian, not to replace our trust and dependence in and on God, who said,

"...unto his disciples, Therefore, I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat; neither for the body, what ye shall put on. The life is more than meat, and the body is more that raiment. Consider the ravens: for they neither sow nor reap; which neither have storehouse nor barn; and God feedeth them: how much more are ye better than the fowls? And which of you with taking thought can add to his stature one cubit? If ye then be not able to do that thing whihch is least, why take ye thought for the rest? Consider the lillies how they grow: they toil not, they spin not; and yet I say unto you, that Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. If then God so clothe the grass, which is to day in the field, and tomorrow is cast into the oven; how much more will he clothe you, O ye of little faith? And seek not ye what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink, neither be ye of doubtful mind. For all these things do the nations of the world seek after: and you Father knoweth that ye have need of these things. But rather seek ye the kingdom of God; and all these things shall be added unto you. Sell that ye have, and give alms, provide yourselves bags which wax not old, a treasure in the heavens that faileth not, where no thief approacheth, neither moth corrupteth, For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."Luke 12:22-34)

This instruction and exhortation of our Lord came after telling about the rich man who built himself bigger barns to store

"all my fruits and my goods. And I will say to my soul, Soul, thou hast much goods laid up for many years; take thine ease, eat, drink, and be merry. BUT GOD said unto him, Thou fool, this night thy soul shall be required of thee: then whose shall those things be, which thou has provided? So is he that layeth up treasure for himself, and is not rich towards God." (Luke 12:18-21)

Excessive "prepping" by Christians demonstrates a lack of faith in the Word of God and the God of His Word to a watching world. This is the perfect time to rather, introduce those around us who worry and fret to the great God who made heaven and earth, and offers reconciliation with them, through faith in the Gospel of Jesus Christ, that they may be part of the "family" who inherits the promises and very life of God. Who will give "rest unto their souls." We need to live by faith, not by sight, or the accumulating of goods, again, designed to cause us to focus on this world, rather than the Word, living holy, separated lives, continuing the mission of Jesus..to seek and save the lost.

Bible Believer said...

JL, yep more then a flood could destroy the preps. You are right about the looters, and those going after whatever they can find, a few people are not going to be able to keep at bay. I think these things are a test too. The poor have no choice but to trust God, you got that right.

These Doomsday Preppers who even go "public" which is kind of odd in itself speak of spending thousands of dollars for their stores. I read about this in one of the articles while writing this article yesterday.

You are right, one's health too can be gone, store up thousands of dollars of stuff, and then die anyway of a heart attack, or even something like a car accident etc.

Luke 12:16 And he spake a parable unto them, saying, The ground of a certain rich man brought forth plentifully:

17 And he thought within himself, saying, What shall I do, because I have no room where to bestow my fruits?

18 And he said, This will I do: I will pull down my barns, and build greater; and there will I bestow all my fruits and my goods.

19 And I will say to my soul, Soul, thou hast much goods laid up for many years; take thine ease, eat, drink, and be merry.

20 But God said unto him, Thou fool, this night thy soul shall be required of thee: then whose shall those things be, which thou hast provided?

21 So is he that layeth up treasure for himself, and is not rich toward God

Bible Believer said...

Allen,

I've seen that "me" vs the world stuff on line, such types even will mock those who do not have preps, or the poor who cannot prep--while they spend literally thousands and take expendable income for granted, I do find that worrisome trend in this "movement." Sometimes, NOT in EVERY CASE, one sees this stuff married to the extreme libertarian/Tea Party stuff, which says "I got mine, tough for you!" It definitely is worldly corruption. It is "Hunger Games" stuff. Even in other places you can see people write things like "only the best deserve jobs", I said to such a person so someone who may not be a genius or a huge talent deserves to starve? They are working definitely to harden hearts and pitch people against one another. One scary thing, they are making it so even your OWN NEIGHBORS are the "threat". What a way to isolate and add to the disconnection and distrust within communities. Conquer and divide on behalf of Satan.
I agree, no matter how many food stores you have, cans of beans, hidden bunkers, endless guns, propane, etc, the end comes to us all.

Anonymous said...

In CA, newer homes (past 15 years or so) can't have fireplaces. We rent a newer home in mountains, and have no heat source except stove-top when power is lost. What a foolish law! I buy bulk oats, flour, beans and rice for our groceries to save money, but do not have enough to save up way in excess. So, ok to not go to the store for a couple of weeks if necessary, but unable to "prep". For sure, the poor, elderly, and children have it the hardest in any kind of crisis. Must keep our eyes fixed on Jesus, and remember others in history and present who have lived well in hard times.

Anonymous said...

Zombies... it's the preps against the soch's against the greasers. Survival of the fittest! Kill or be killed!!!

Hack em up, chop em up, shoot em up.

So this article really meshes well with your next article BB, about those wanting to leave the union. The idea is to cause division between the haves and the have-nots or insert your "civil or uncivil war term" here, because then someone can step in and solve the problems.

The real problem is the Sin that we all embrace, idolatry against God. We turn our backs on Him, pick and choose our own leaders.. and get it wrong over and over again because thats all we can do after rejecting God.

Dan 2:43 And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.
Dan 2:44 And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.

Bible Believer said...

Kayfabe I can understand that, sometimes stuff can "own" you instead of the other way around. Even to maintain "stuff" can take a lot of hours in the day. I live the more "involuntary simplicity" lifestyle, LOL but there was the fortunate end, I didn't have materialism waiting as a trap.Some of the preppers almost seem like they need an inventory to track so many things, today even if you let cans get a bit old,they do not keep the same way they once did. Something to keep in mind if prepping foodwise. I had a can that expired in 2008, burst upon contact with the can opener.

Luke 12:15

King James Version (KJV)

15 And he said unto them, Take heed, and beware of covetousness: for a man's life consisteth not in the abundance of the things which he possesseth.

Bible Believer said...

Thanks for your comment too, Marion, all great points :)

Bible Believer said...

Ah good points Anon. I thought about mentioning the zombie meme here, but since I had already written about it a few times didn't want to repeat myself too much. Yes there is the whole "survival of the fittest" stuff, and the "kill or be killed" [law of the jungle] they are advancing with every step. I was thinking about the succession stuff too, so odd how that is being pushed and announced in the news all over the place, for a reason I think definitely. Interesting you mentioning those movies, I didn't think about that. I believe strife and unrest is what the wicked powers in this world desire and they seem to be banging that drum as much is possible, and yes it has to do with sin and idolatry.


Bible Believer said...

That is a horrible law in California, so what do you do when it gets cold? Don't feel bad even in many other states, homes, apartments etc, have no way of heating except that which is hooked into the grid. I have the theory they could have put power packs in everyone's homes that store power instead of having us dependent on the thousands of toothpicks [1920s tech] that hold up our wires and blow down everytime there is a a light wind. This is why there is so much misery and suffering. I think it's planned that way to keep people as helpless as possible and laws passed to keep them from being able to take care of themselves as best as possible. Yes I understand keeping some extras, for some reason I always end up with a bunch of beans in here, but most Americans do not have the finances to buy endless groceries that could cover months of need.
excess. You are right the poor, elderly, disabled and young have it the worse. I am still praying for who ever is suffering from Sandy. We have to think about how life has been in this world for most people, even the prosperous run this country had before, was the exception not the rule. Keep focusing on Jesus.

Lisa Ruby said...

I believe that Christians should regard ownership of things-- whether it be money or possessions or food-- as a stewardship. I believe that even intelligence and discernment is a stewardship that God expects his people to share with others in the family of God. As you can see, Bible Believer is an example of sharing such things in the form of this blog.

Considering the times we are in and the fact that the New World Order takeover/Tribulation is drawing ever closer, I believe God would have his children be as wise as serpents (but harmless as doves) and make preparations as he enables them.

The first and foremost way to prepare is spiritual preparation. (Stand in the evil day, and having done all, stand.) The New World Order takeover/Tribulation brings with it spiritual darkness of a magnitude that has never before been experienced on this earth.

Christians who do not have single eyes will end up having their entire bodies full of darkness: "The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light. But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!
No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon. Matt. 6:22-24

Spiritual preparation is the foundation of preparedness. All preps are in vain if one is not spiritually prepared. Why do I say this? Because the only place to take refuge from the technology that will be utilized in the NWO round-up process is under the shadow of the Almighty:

"He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty. will say of the LORD, He is my refuge and my fortress: my God; in him will I trust. Ps. 91:1-2

Today's typical 5013c "Christianity" is no where near the secret place of the most High. It is not too late! Come out from among them and be separate . . . and God will receive you as sons and daughters.

Sadly, many preppers will not only lose all those thousands of dollars of preps to the beast's regime, but also their own lives: spiritual and physical. The prepping movement's focus is on the material but the truth is that without the proper spiritual foundation (built upon the Rock, Jesus Christ), the prepper has no strength to stand up against the spiritual darkness that is to soon overtake the world.

Abbey said...

There's a big difference between hoarding and storing up for hard times or emergencies. Yes, we are to trust the Lord for all things but that doesn't mean waiting for manna to fall from Heaven. It's true it all could disappear in a storm or a fire but to not prepare at all is irresponsible. Granted some people can't put aside any extra but if nobody did, where would any of us be; sitting around waiting for FEMA if or when they showed up? How could I help an elderly neighbor if I don't have anything either? Now I'm not talking about anything extreme like a year's worth of food and gas masks. I agree some out there have a nasty, selfish attitude but not all. One of the greatest examples of prepping would be~

GENESIS 41

29 Behold, there come seven years of great plenty throughout all the land of Egypt:

30 And there shall arise after them seven years of famine; and all the plenty shall be forgotten in the land of Egypt; and the famine shall consume the land;

31 And the plenty shall not be known in the land by reason of that famine following; for it shall be very grievous.

34 Let Pharaoh do this, and let him appoint officers over the land, and take up the fifth part of the land of Egypt in the seven plenteous years.

35 And let them gather all the food of those good years that come, and lay up corn under the hand of Pharaoh, and let them keep food in the cities.

36 And that food shall be for store to the land against the seven years of famine, which shall be in the land of Egypt; that the land perish not through the famine.

Abbey said...

I also think more of us should be self reliant as much as possible. Way too many rely on the government these days. Most of us don't have animals and fertile land to farm but you do what you can.

I agree we need to trust the Lord and not be afraid. That can be hard to do in times like these but there IS peace when we do.

Even though it's a good thing up to a point, prepping is big business and they use fear to get people to buy. In moderation it's helpful but most important is keeping eternity in mind.

JL said...

I cant afford to prepare for every single thing. Im paying health insurance, life insurance, disability insurance, dental insurance, renter insurance, car insurance...its too much. Preparing for disasters cost money. Its not cheap.

In regards to relying on the government, wasnt Pharoah a government official? Did not the government prepare to help all its people during the famine? I know many people that rely on the government. Trust me, most of them dont have a choice. How so, you ask? Imagine the following happening to you:

1. You go from temp job to temp job that never hires you permanently, and then they let you go. Well, your back on the welfare rolls again.

2. You graduate from college, and no employer hires you due to lack of experience. Well, welfare is right around the corner for you.

3. You have a great job, but become sick. You ask the employer to give you two weeks to recover, and instead they fire you because your tenure is less than a year. Well, your going to the welfare rolls because sick people cant get unemployment.

4. You have a disability. Automatic welfare since no employer wants to take a chance at you.

5. You work 40 hours a week at a low wage job. Your shift keeps changing, so you can never go to college. (or you can go to an online diploma mill, and spend 100K for a bachelors in business.) The low wage job isnt enough to support your family, so back to the welfare rolls.

6. Your over 50 and looking for a job....self explainitory.

7. Youre 65, did everything right, and then a Madoff type stole your retirement money. You are now in situation 6, well back to the welfare rolls.

8. You've been looking for a job since 2010. Since employers refuse to hire someone with that type of employment gap, welfare is your next option.

Now dont get me wrong, there are some cheats out there. However, there are more that are not cheats than the ones who are.

Here is the thing I fear. Most people say they will help, but will they really help? Tribulation does not produce character. Tribulation brings out the true character of a man.

Bible Believer said...

I agree Lisa, Christian who "own things" the same expectation is expected as if it was money. Goods essentially mean money and the biblical commandments to be good stewards applies here as well. Lisa is right about the other non-tangibles too. Thanks Lisa.

Yes we are in very different times now and these are ones where we must keep in prayer so God will direct our steps and for protection as well. The verse wise as serpents and harmless as doves definitely applies here. People are going to be tested by the NWO and Trib in many ways even never seen before.

Agree, thanks for that verse Lisa, thinking of this one too...

Psalm 91:4 He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under his wings shalt thou trust: his truth shall be thy shield and buckler.

If anything the typical 5013c Christianity is the most dangerous place to be. One can tell with many of these false pastors they will have no problem giving even instructions that will bring the worse things to their own people beyond the spiritual destruction they have already wrought.

I agree the preppers need to realize they can lose everything, the way this world works is not orderly. In WW2 no one hid out in a bunker with thousands of dollars of supplies and made it through unscathed. Some reality is in check. You are correct spiritual preparation is the MOST IMPORTANT. I say this knowing there are ways I have to work on preparing spiritually.

Bible Believer said...

Abby I agree we should do what we can led by God,I think you mean well, but we live in a society that has made self reliance impossible for many. In fact "self reliance" is a misnomer that even in the Little House on the Prairie Days, one had family, community, etc, that was far more involved with each other. As society grew more complex things got more specialized but even Pa and Ma, had neighbors to help if their barn burned down or they got sick. In fact reading about life in those times, the social networks, worked so there was this interaction between neighbors. This is more common in small towns but since I lived in a small rural town for a time, I saw modern society eating that away so really only the elderly people followed that mode anymore. America is overly infatuated with the "loner" myth of rugged individualism where a man is seen and promoted as not needing anyone else, often not even God in some of our horrible movies. We have to be careful with the "every man is an island" stuff a la Ayn Rand that the right side of the equation keeps pushing. I think people should take responsiblity for what they can etc etc, but be careful of this, I have been on enough "right" websites, to know there is lots of judgment. We have 100 million people unemployed in this country and people are supposed to be "self reliant?" How? People today are even "reliant" on others for jobs.

http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/there-are-100-million-working-age-americans-that-do-not-have-jobs

The jobs are disappearing, the communities and families are broken up. Most are removed from the land. Yes the system has now been set up in a way to make people as dependent as possible but most people out there are just trying to survive. I can't afford to prepare for every single thing either. God has kept my household going as it is, discussed in other blog articles on poor people. The majority of people and yes there is a small segment of "cheaters" but it is very small, are just trying to survive in a system where everything costs so much.

We do see how the system is getting harder and harder on people, little mercy for illness, unemployment, being down and out and how it does rope them in, and if a person is disabled or elderly enough, living "self sufficiently" is just not possible. The right part of the NWO, is really pushing the POOR people are "lazy" meme to play cover up for the bankers and to gain more power. I also believe its to harden hearts so less "Christians" will help. One of my biggest concerns about the religious right, is the advancement of the hatred of the poor. This actually helped Obama out a LOT, as the broke nation went to go vote for the guy they saw least likely to cut their benefits, but then he is outsourcing the jobs and taking us to wars as fast as any Republicans.

http://galatiansfour.blogspot.com/2012/07/do-what-jesus-said-about-poor-not.html

So be careful of that extreme "self reliant" myth. They are pushing that stuff for a reason.

Acts 2:45 And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.

Tribulation does tell people what they are made of.

1Pe 4:12 ¶ Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you:

Abbey said...

Yes, I do mean well BB and I think you misunderstood what I was trying to say. As I stated above, I'm not talking about a year's worth of food, gas masks, an arsenal or a shelter etc.. I don't have that either. I didn't watch that video clip you posted until today. I can't even relate to the people in that video. They are consumed with the idea.

Hurricane Sandy is fresh in my mind and that's where most of my thoughts came from. Before it hit we got prepared by making sure the flashlights worked, filling whatever we had with water for drinking and other purposes, charged the cell phone and had extra blankets handy. We had food that you could eat without cooking for example peanut butter and jelly, fruit, canned soup, tuna.... Well our power did go out for several days and some of our neighbors didn't prepare at all. You can't always think it's not going to happen to me. They had to go to a restaurant somewhere for each meal. Grocery stores and even Walmart were without power in my area. These neighbors, both couples, aren't poor by any means so that's not the case. We try and help our neighbors whenever we can. My husband pumped out their basements several times before the power was restored. We have lived here for almost 30 years and have always helped our elderly neighbors. Sadly they have all passed except for one couple. Now we are the elderly. I don't say this to be bragging or patting ourselves on the back. It's the way we were raised and the right way to live.

You can get nice blankets, clothes and other useful items at thrift stores. The prices can't be beat. This is what I mean by being self reliant as much as possible. I'm not buying into the self reliant myth or being a lone wolf.

Abbey said...

JL, I don't exactly know what you mean by preparing for every single thing. Who could possibly do that?

"In regards to relying on the government, wasnt Pharoah a government official? Did not the government prepare to help all its people during the famine?"

Actually JL, they had to BUY the corn.

GENESIS 21 (KJV)

56 And the famine was over all the face of the earth: and Joseph opened all the storehouses, and SOLD unto the Egyptians; and the famine waxed sore in the land of Egypt.

57 And all countries came into Egypt to Joseph for to BUY corn; because that the famine was so sore in all lands.

I never once belittled or criticized welfare recipients.I never even mentioned welfare. My second post was what I meant to add to my first post. I was referring to my comment about people thinking they can just rely on FEMA.

I can relate to a lot of what you wrote. You are not alone.

I'll add some scenarios.

2008 - Husband out of work for most of the year. Wife's hours cut drastically. Husband goes back to work with absolutely NO benefits. Just a paycheck.
2009 - Repeat but not quite as long. 2010 and 2011 laid off for a few months each time.

Medical insurance- One and 1/2 paychecks every month. It's a lot! No dental or eye insurance. Car/truck insurance,property and school taxes,life insurance,trash disposal, electric, oil heat bill,sewer bill,phone,homeowner's insurance etc., etc..

Pension- None. Retirement fund would last a few months maybe.

College loan. No job in that field for son #2. Son #1- How can you get experience if nobody hires you so you can get experience?

Over 50 affirmative. Who hasn't lost retirement money? Only household in the neighborhood without cable. No I-phone, No I-Pad, No Kindle or any other fancy gadgets. 10 year old cell phone, no camera or internet, just a phone. 14 year old used car, 26 year old used truck. Vacations-none in the last 6 years except 2 days at the beach this summer, never been to Disney,flew once to attend a funeral, no dinners out except for special occasions.....

Roof over my head, clothes on my back and food on the table.
All in all, most of us have it so much better than millions of other people. God has blessed us richly.

1 Timothy 6:17 (KJV)

Charge them that are rich in this world, that they be not high minded, nor trust in uncertain riches, but in the living God, who gives us richly all things to enjoy;

JL said...

@ Abbey...well thats a tragedy for your neighbors not to prepare if they had the means to do so. I think when someone says a storm is coming, and a person willfully ignores the warning and have the means to protect themselves is outright foolishness.

In regards to Genesis 21, i should have explained myself better. I wasnt trying to say that the government should take care of everyone. What I was trying to say that prepping should be done in an unselfish way. Joseph didnt hide the meaning of the vision to himself. He informed Pharoah, and Pharoah took action to prepare for the days ahead. Todays preppers dont work as a collective. Its a "Ive got mine mentality."

Anonymous said...

Hmmm. I am having difficulty distinguishing the spiritual advice from the self righteousness here.
INSURANCE? Isn't that prepping?
Savings account, retirement programs, voting yourselves government assistance, seatbelts, door locks, a heater in your house, need I go on?
Have you read no history?
...
One man's prepping is another man's common sense.

Lisa Ruby said...

Bible Believer wrote:
"If anything the typical 5013c Christianity is the most dangerous place to be. One can tell with many of these false pastors they will have no problem giving even instructions that will bring the worse things to their own people beyond the spiritual destruction they have already wrought."

Your remark reminded me of an internet article called, "Secret FEMA Plan To Use Pastors as Pacifiers in Preparation For Martial Law." This article perfectly illustrates what you wrote. This article was originally posted to Infowars.com (which I don't endorse as a general rule because God is removed from the whole "fight the NWO order" campaign. (Nobody can fight the satanic NWO regime without the power of God, period.)

Also, Alex needs to know that he cannot fight the NWO while promoting Tom Cruise, a spokesman for Scientology, a government-backed organization that serves the New World Order.

Lisa Ruby said...

Bible Believer cited Psalm 91:4: "Psalm 91:4 He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under his wings shalt thou trust: his truth shall be thy shield and buckler."

This is a powerful verse that reminds me of something Jesus said:

"O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! Behold, your house is left unto you desolate. Matt. 23: 37,38

The shadow of God's wings is the only true place of safety:

Keep me as the apple of the eye, hide me under the shadow of thy wings, From the wicked that oppress me, from my deadly enemies, who compass me about. Psalm 17:8, 9

Because thou hast been my help, therefore in the shadow of thy wings will I rejoice. Psalm 63:7

Bible Believer said...

Lisa, definitely I remember that article, well FEMA is going to use the pastors when it comes to the NWO, and more.

There was this one pastor I knew in my old county, being trained for "disaster" relief and he talked about how he was being trained to keep people "calm" and to follow directives. I warned that man and others about the NWO, he was not happy at all. They really had indoctrinated him.

Alex Jones promotes some real strange ones on there, Pat Buchanan, the Sheens, etc.
I agree about Tom Cruise. I link to info-wars for information but it's done with that caveat. I do think that Alex Jones whose religious allegiances are "unknown", does push the "fight in the flesh" stuff. Did you know recently he has been pushing the secession stuff?

http://www.examiner.com/article/alex-jones-issues-battle-cry-to-secede-from-globalists

Yeah how do you "fight the NWO" and globalists while advancing MK-ultra/Scientology celebrities, and Knights of Malta types like Pat Buchanan?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ru2GwfHa4fE

I saw this article the other day too.

http://www.naturalnews.com/038021_spiritual_preparedness_survival_Judgment_Day.html

also shared on Alex Jone's website...

http://www.infowars.com/in-your-survival-plans-have-you-forgotten-spiritual-preparedness/

I had wondered what Mike Adams's religion was...[he seemed to have good info against GMOs etc]

"Furthermore, there is no spiritual entitlement program whereby souls are automatically handed out benefits that they did not earn. Each soul must earn his or her own outcome, and in order to determine that, the entire lifetime of actions for each individual is recorded as a spiritual record.

This record is much like a log file of every action, decision, experience and thought that you had during your life. The totality of this record reflects the virtue of your true character."

Well that is the false message of every false religion out there.

Kind of sad to read that, the whole "you have to earn your own way in" lie of the devil instead of trusting in Jesus Christ as your Savior.

Mike Adams directs people to this website...

http://www.divinitynow.com/

I'll have to make sure if I use any articles from Natural News[usually regarding GMOs etc], to put in a warning though I knew that was not a Christian website.

Bible Believer said...

Thanks for those verses Lisa, Yes God will be our ONLY place of safety.

Depending on THINGS, and this world, will only be a path to destruction.

Thank you for sharing that verse in the NT, yes it directly links to that one! Yes it is only under the shadow of His wing where we are protected. For those who have had that protection, that brings us to praise His name, knowing how God has been there for us, even in the worse of circumstances.

I think of this verse too:

Psa 52:7 Lo, [this is] the man [that] made not God his strength; but trusted in the abundance of his riches, [and] strengthened himself in his wickedness.

Psa 52:8 But I [am] like a green olive tree in the house of God: I trust in the mercy of God for ever and ever.

God must be our strength.

I know with the controlled opps, even ones who "warn of the NWO", they desire that people "fight in the flesh" and it works to the advantage of the controllers and planners of this world. This doesn't mean I have ever thing figured out they plan to do, but one thing I do know is we are to keep our eyes on God no matter what.

Bible Believer said...

correction above, "everything figured out they plan to do"

Anonymous said...

Isn't Alex Jones part of the NWO?

JL said...

anon says "Hmmm. I am having difficulty distinguishing the spiritual advice from the self righteousness here.
INSURANCE? Isn't that prepping?
Savings account, retirement programs, voting yourselves government assistance, seatbelts, door locks, a heater in your house, need I go on?"

Let me explain my situation. I will explain this to educate you, not to belittle or insult you. Keep in mind that my wages are below 30k a year.

1.health insurance-I dont have health insurance right now, but because of Obamacare, I have no choice but to get it.
2.life & disabily-Automatic deduction from paycheck. It was mandatory, so I had no say in electing it.
3. Dental- I dont have dental insurance per se. I have a dental discount plan. I pay a fee to get discounted services. The out of pocket is still heafty
4. renter insurance- Madatory from landlord.
5. car insurance-Mandatory for the state i live in.
6. Retirement-I have no 401k
7. Savings-dont have that either.
8. voting for gov assist- I didnt vote. I dont believe in the 2 party system.
9. Seatbelts-you are breaking the law if you dont have that in your car.
10. Door locks-If i remove my doorlocks, it would be vandalism. Im not a home owner.
11. heater/air conditioner in house- did you know that if you have children, CPS can take your children away if you do not have those things in your house? Again, thats lawbreaking.

Keep in mind that there is no law requiring you to prep.

For you to say that we voted ourselves goverment assistance makes me wonder some things.

Could it be that we are seeing the modern day pharisees and sadducees? Pharisee=democrats, Sadducees=republicans, and Essenes=non political. Did you notice how the Pharisees were the first to attack Jesus. It was until later that the sadducees joined forces with the pharisees to condemn Jesus to death. Also notice how the Essenes are not even mentioned in scriptures...hmmm.

Please Anon, poder on these things. We got to be careful when we accuse people of being self righteous. Really understand the situation of the person before passing unrighteous judgment.

Jeff said...

Prepping kind of takes a mindset. If a person begins to think along the terms of prepping, then they can prep according to as God has provided.

It's overwhelming at first and doesn't really get a lot easier, and you can't prepare for everything... okay we know that.

Money or not, you can put your personal papers in order, like birth certificates and marriage licenses and medical records and pets shot records, insurance papers and so on... in a plastic bag or something waterproof all in one place ready to grab and go if needed. With a spare KJV Bible.

Water, just store some! In whatever you have, and keep it rotated and fresh. 1 Gal per person per day minimum and 3 days minimum. Mass merchants sell 3,5,7,10 gallon containers cheap, or you can get gallon jugs of water cheap too and can rotate those.

As you begin to think this way, you will be preparing along the way, and even if you don't get much done, at least you won't be as freaked out and panic stricken when emergencies of various kinds do arise.

Anonymous said...

~Labby

As someone who has stored some things away, I can't imagine not sharing with anyone when and if the time comes, but I don't think it's wise not to prepare somewhat. We have been given many warnings as to how tough things will get, and we pretty much are feeling that the time long ago warned about is almost upon us, so...this verse comes to my mind from Proverbs.

"The wise man saves for the future, but the foolish man spends whatever he gets." Prov 21:20

Save without hoarding, and rely on God's provision without being so foolish that you ignore all the warnings and don't do anything for yourself. There is always a balanced approach in life.

And yes, we have insurance policies, which is an excellent parallel to draw. Anything we can do to try to lower our "risk" exposure can be wise, but don't put all your trust in them. Some people are always going to be extreme, though.

JL said...

aye yi yi...these comments are starting to get off topic. I thought this was about preppers? Now were debating on if insurance and saving is biblical. I think this is getting too extreme. So i want to stay on topic. Prepping ...ie the woman in the video...is a form of hoarding. Cased closed.

Jeff said...

Sure, anyone can go overboard on anything and be"hording" in this case. That is a problem in itself and of itself, but need not be the reason someone else should ignore the topic.

An example that is parallel thinking would be someone saying "I will never become a Christian because of all the Hypocrites in the church".

Each of us has a personal responsibility outside of what "the other guy" is doing. They can't save you, but are in the position of needing saved too.

Current conditions around the world, should alert you to the sensibility and prudence of at least trying to organize your thoughts.

Where would I go tomorrow if a tornado (enter disaster here) took out my house today?
Fema camp?
Public Shelter?
Would I walk?
would I drive?
Are my kids able to follow?
Do I need to prepare for their sake?
Do I need a wagon to pull them and some water (and basic stuff like a way to make fire, and blankets) out of harms way?
What about my pets? (hard thoughts now may save hardship later)

[I pick up $1 tarps when I see them on sale for emergency shelter and all kinds of stuff. $1 rope, $1 lighters, $1 waterbottle. It's not the $4 expense I am talking about, rather... "think about it" you might already have stuff that just needs organized and re-purposed or multi-purposed]

I was amazed myself, that trying to locate public shelters in my area, proved that there weren't any. I contacted all those in charge, and none could/would tell me. Maybe there are other reasons they won't/don't say, but I eliminated "public shelter" from my list. ;)

Kayfabe said...

For me, I'm preparing by getting rid of stuff. I feel in these last days that it will be important to be mobile and that's hard to when you have a bunch of stuff tying you down. I relate to those here who find it hard to get ahead where you can start prepping. I have three kids and I am debt free but every time it looks like I can start saving money something comes up, whether for the kids clothes, school etc or car issues or paying for dental work for the kids or myself. Also when i have extra I would like to give to others rather than save up. So many in need here in Los Angeles

Jeff said...

Not trying to spam your board... but some people don't know what the meaning is behind the term "5013c" also know in IRS document terms as section 501 (c)(3) for tax exemption.

Here is a link to IRS.Gov so the reader can see for themselves what the tax exemption requirements are.

(It's a long link so copy and paste all of the following --except the blog comment footer Date/time stamp-- into your browser)

http://www.irs.gov/Charities-&-Non-Profits/Charitable-Organizations/Exemption-Requirements---Section-501(c)(3)-Organizations

JL said...

@ Kayfabe...I agree with you 100%. I've been having the same revelations as well. I have this gut feeling that saints will need to be mobile, be ready to go when God tells us.

Bible Believer said...

I say Do what God leads you to. God may be leading some to prepare in different ways. I found this an interesting point:

"Could it be that we are seeing the modern day pharisees and sadducees? Pharisee=democrats, Sadducees=republicans, and Essenes=non political. Did you notice how the Pharisees were the first to attack Jesus. It was until later that the sadducees joined forces with the pharisees to condemn Jesus to death. "

I had the thought about Lot's wife, in terms of Christians having to go somewhere in a hurry, reading over the comments here, I agree with those of you regarding the possessions. I enjoy what things I do have, but believe they are to be shared with others as much as God leads. I am in more humble circumstances, but I think its important even for a Christian of humble means to ask, "COULD I LEAVE IT ALL BEHIND?" If it came to that. Jeff I think you are wise to think about those things, especially for those with children, keep in prayer.

Thanks for information on 501c3 churches I'll check it out.

Jeff said...

Going mobile…

I actually have a little experience with that. We auctioned off everything we had extra, after moving into an RV 10+ year ago. We moved to Montana before that, because we were worried about then current homeschool laws changing and we might be forced to subject our kids to the brainwashing of public schools, so we were going to slip into Canada if needed. We also moved there thinking that “earth changes” would be changing the face of the planet and Montana would be a tropical paradise (according to those maps the watchers have).

We raised our kids in an RV, being very mobile we escaped many disasters which never happened.
The idea was not intended to be permanent only temporary, as we were seeking the Lords will in helping us find a church. We never found one, but left several. We sent 2 of our kids to college later, and they promptly and fully turned away from the Lord.

Lesson learned?
The fear of the Lord IS the beginning of wisdom, but the fear of man and circumstances cause’s grief and health problems. ;) I am tired of running, tired of fearing. Preparing a little tiny bit for emergency needs, based on experience, gives me some rest from worrying about the things I do have some control over. Prov 6:6-8

We are still mobile, but if I have to run in a hurry, it will be in a small vehicle with the bare necessities, or on foot or bicycle, but the more you have the more others have to take (supposing end of world worst case stuff). I’m not willing to kill to keep what I have; I honestly look forward to being done with the race set before me.
Hebrews 12:25-29

Final thought… we have a ways to go.
1 Thess 5:3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
Right now there aren’t a whole lot of people really saying “peace and safety” are there?
Therefore emergency “prepping” for the here and now is prudent and sensible I think, as God has enabled and leads you, no more and no less.

JL said...

@ Jeff...im glad you found peace in the Lord with your decision on prepping.

Like I said before, I'm only leaving when God tells me. I refuse to make any decision based on fear.

Jeff said...

JL, I’m sitting here looking out of the window at pair of solar panels I just got, to continue to prepare for the inevitability of power outages, AND to lower power bills, AND to move towards finally unplugging from the power grid no matter where we are. I’m thinking in the “prep” mode all the time. It’s not from fear of the apocalypse or some false prophets warning, and it’s not for hoarding, and I’m not really “green” either.

I have a personal strong urgency to do this, but I am alone in this urgency in my family. We’ve moved to escape disaster in the past because of premonitions and warnings from false prophets, causing a kind of “crying wolf” syndrome if you are familiar with that term.

HOWEVER we have been through fire and flood and wind and lightning storms, and snow storms so long and big we had to dig down to get into the house, and -40f degrees below zero cold to +154f (is what the ground temp outside was) which take out power and water and gas and… you know… stuff that really happens someplace every day and growing worse and more frequent at the moment. Here are examples from last month… wow!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMLZBruWxy0

Several months ago, I had been begging my wife to listen to me about just being involved a little bit in the emergency prep stuff I am bringing in. “Something could happen any day! We might have to escape a volcano (we live near several) or earthquake or damage from some other thing you don't know about, will you please just take it into consideration!?” I begged again.

Within minutes of that conversation, I stepped outside and saw a huge plume of smoke rising a few miles away. Feeling somewhat shocked and vindicated I called her to come and see. The fire grew and evacuation orders were given… some scrambled to find homes for their horses and other livestock, and some had to leave immediately, while there were others that had more time.

The smoke was dense, and ash from the fire fell on us. I asked the Lord to keep the smoke high and away… and right over us it kept high and away, but down the road they could hardly breathe. Some had to evacuate because of smoke. After the fire had been burning for days and they couldn’t contain it, I asked the Lord if it was His will to bring rain to put it out. A small cloud from *nowhere came and a specific and local rain fell between us and the fire (a narrow swatch of rain). I took that as confirmation that the Lord would allow it to burn, but not us.

I watched the fire burn for weeks after that and the *winds kept almost all of the smoke away from us the whole time. The huge wall of smoke blocked a lot of sun and helped keep the solar heat down too.

God doesn’t need my prepping to keep me; I do believe God is telling us to “gird up”. Both are true.

So JL I don’t know if I understand what you mean by “peace with God about prepping”, because I am sort of thick headed and I have to go through stuff over and over until I get it usually. Writing this stuff down for the first time is helping me understand a little more. I am noticing that there is a spiritual parallel here too.
[I wrote more, but too much to fit in this post… so I cut it here]

JL said...

@ Jeff,

What I meant is that from reading your post, it seems like you have a purpose in your prepping. You are not preparing for some "apocalypse" or "financial meltdown." That is what most preppers are preparing for. Your prepping is practical, especially for the extreme weather conditions you live in. Ive said earlier that it is foolish to NOT PREPARE if you have the funds and are warned in advanced. However, it is amazing how God answered your prayer regarding sending rain. Its like what you said, God doesnt need your prepping to keep you. That saying applies to all of us.

Jeff said...

Here's the Biblical example I’m pondering as I think about this.
BB mentioned Lot, and as things turned out, that section of the KJV audio Bible was playing that night as we went to sleep. (Pretty cool the way the Holy Spirit does things when He is doing the teaching!) “Escape for thy life; look not behind thee” They were a bit slow of action. And the Lord in His mercy had to lead them by the hand out of there in urgency. Genesis 19

In Exodus 12:11-13 I noticed also the “haste” and ready to go after the Passover, God again leading them out by His “mighty hand and outstretched arm”. They were a separate people set apart from Egypt and God made it clearly clear who were His, by the Blood of the Lamb. He set them free to go and serve Him. And they took the stuff they already borrowed (prepared) with them. There is also the promise that the plagues of Egypt wouldn't fall on them if they followed Him.

In the New Testament there are also examples of leaving in haste. Here are a few words Jesus spoke.
Luke 21:21 I noticed the urgency to flee at the right time in v21.
Matt 24:16-21 Flee so fast not to even turn back to get stuff in the house. Mark 13:14-16 A similar passage, important enough to be mentioned several times.

The parable of the 10 virgins is one that is speaking loudly to me. Matt 25 Wise or foolish? The Wise were prepared. The foolish were not prepared, and while they scrambled at the last moment to prepare, they were found outside beating on the closed door. Too late to enter, the verdict was He NEVER DID know them. “I know you not”

Our works cannot save us. Our faith (or that certain belief in belief, or just believing an eternal storm/disaster is coming) cannot save us either, yet we are called out of Egypt (bondage to sin and certain destruction by plagues no less) in haste and urgent action, to faith in Christ's blood, who does save by His own power, and I must be forsaking all else. Now!
The storm is coming, it will be here. That storm is too big to physically prepare for! To His Ark I must flee! He already prepared a place for me. John 14:1-4

But there is a deadly and dangerous false prophet seeking to steal kill and destroy too. His name is “False Profession”. That false teacher wants us to believe that profession alone, -a mere agreement that there is a God, that Jesus is real- (or even that there is Judgment coming), is enough. “False Profession” doesn't what us to act and to turn from sin, doesn't want us to truly “Put on the whole armor of God”, to stand. “False Profession” wants us to continue to listen to the teaching of others about the topic as they pat our back and tell us all is well, but hey; “don't really look it up in the Bible and listen to God Himself”. False Profession says, “Just repeat after me… the temple of the Lord, the temple of the Lord, the temple of the Lord are these”. Jeremiah 7

Faith without works -is as dead as (and is) a false profession.

Faith in your works -is like building your house on the sand, and Sandy carries all your preps out to sea.

Faith that works -is acting like you believe what He said, and what He did, because you do, and you take Him at His Word over any and all others.

JL said...

@ Jeff

Wow...I got goosebumps reading what you wrote. That was the Lord speaking through you. Your post really spoke to my heart. Praise God!

Doug Greene said...

Hi: So thankful to catch your blog on the subject of "Preppers and God". I live most of my live in Vietnam now as a lay missionary married to a Vietnamese national. I worked 33 years as a firefighter and paramedic in the U.S. It comes naturally for me to want to be prepared and much of the life style of "preppers" seems right to me. As a follower of Jesus my heart is challenged to trust in Him even as Elijah did for food and water or the Hebrews did in the wilderness. One of the thoughts I have did not seem to come up in the comments for this blog post and that is the fact that excessive spending on survival supplies ties up funds that can be used for the "Kingdom of God" right now. There are many people planting seeds for the gospel that could use such funds today to advance the Kingdom now. Hopefully the (Christian Preppers) are helping to fund missions regularly in at least an equal proportion to their prepping efforts. I really enjoyed reading the thoughts and gaining wisdom on this subject from reading this blog post and its comments. The "prep" issue is one I think about often and each time the Lord leads me to the "trust me" heart/mind set where I should just keep on using the resources He gives me to advance the Kingdom.

Anonymous said...

Why do so many people have a big problem with survivalist preppers? Many have an issue especially if one is a Christian Prepper. Many will say, “ You are not going to need all of that survival stuff where we are going, so where’s your faith?” So I thought I would research just the biblical history on survival preppers and what God has to say about this. This is what I came up with.
In the days of Noah: Gen 6:13 So God said to Noah, “I am going to put an end to all people, for the earth is filled with violence because of them. I am surely going to destroy both them and the earth. Gen 6:14 So make yourself an ark of cypressfn wood; make rooms in it and coat it with pitch inside and out. Gen 6:17 I am going to bring floodwaters on the earth to destroy all life under the heavens, every creature that has the breath of life in it. Everything on earth will perish. OK so God spoke to Noah and said , That He wanted Noah to prep (Prepper or Prepare) an ark for the survival of a coming flood for the animals and the righteous men (Noah and his family).
In the days of Joseph: Gen 41:28 “It is just as I said to Pharaoh: God has shown Pharaoh what he is about to do. Gen 41:29 Seven years of great abundance are coming throughout the land of Egypt, Gen 41:30 but seven years of famine will follow them. Then all the abundance in Egypt will be forgotten, and the famine will ravage the land. Gen 41:31 The abundance in the land will not be remembered, because the famine that follows it will be so severe. Again God gives the Dream to Pharaoh where Joseph through God reviled the meaning of the dream and there fore Joseph was given charge over the store house of preparation (Prepper or Prepare) to stock pile all goods during the abundance of the land in order to survive (Survival) the severe famine. I can find may other survivalist prepper stories in the bible but instead I’m going to tell you of a survival prepper story of my own for the future. I believe some day soon there will be the gathering of God’s church ( the rapture) and many among the gathering where Survivalist Preppers and left behind their loved ones. One left behind remembers the warning of this day coming and did not listen for he or she was to busy living life day by day Blinded. Yes that one now sees the light and surrenders to Jesus! Realizing that now one can’t buy or sell also remembers the fanatical Survivalist Prepper and his or her survival store house of food and goods that was also left behind, but this time for their survival. https://www.facebook.com/jrnotmyworldtv



Anonymous said...

No matter how prepared you are, you will not survive without the help of your neighbors. Call a meeting with your neighbors to make an alliance to come together as one force if a catastrophe happens. A smart prepper doesn't do it alone. Who is going to stand guard when you are asleep.

Anonymous said...

I have much the same view as you do. I'm trying to prepare somewhat. I have a few things put aside. But I'm a poor person myself. I'm an LPN, not an RN yet. I'm trying to get my RN and go further in school, and I'm not young any more, either.

I think it's wise to prepare what you can, if you can. But ultimately our trust is in the Lord. As a nurse, I don't always have steady work, so money is tight. I know God will supply my needs. I'm trying to learn to fish, hunt, and recognise wild edible plants. I'm raising medicinal herbs and learned how to sew and crochet. I know how to camp and cook from scratch. I'm learning what's practical for if we find ourselves in Great Depression days or worse. But I can't afford to buy land or a house, and I'm paying off a lot of student loan debt from earlier college days, still - before I went into nursing. We do what we can and trust the Lord. Thanks for your article. It puts things in good perspective. I pray many who need to see it will do so.

Lisa Tompkins said...

Proverbs 35:31? There are only 31 chapters in the book of Proverbs. What did you mean to say?

Stacy Stites said...

You can be prepared for $205. This is 1700 calories a day for more than a year, for 200 bucks. You don't have to break the bank and you can easily rotate the items through your normal life, if you like pancakes and rice. :)