A spin-off show, United Bates of America, starring another Gothard-focused family, the Bates is now being show on television networks. So for whatever reason, the media and the powers behind it, really are pushing these shows. Why is another version of the Duggars even needed?
For me analyzing this show definitely to do with a micro-cosm of the false messages being unloaded on the Dominionist world. Just think of all the Dominionist super-stars who have flashed across the screen like Kirk Cameron. I read that one of the latest shows or one to be shown soon will include Kirk Cameron visiting with the Duggar family. Below Kirk Cameron meets the Duggar Family at a Vision Fest sponsored event.
Legalism, Dominionism coupled with thoughtless new world order worshipping Republicanism, quasi-Catholic beliefs regarding child breeding and worse are being promoted by this show. What gets me is the very odd statements that Michelle Duggar writes where if one reads carefully, they see very strange things in this family that is presented as an example to the rest of the world of a "happy" near-perfect family. For those paying attention, there seem to be many cracks in the facade forming quick in the family that rejects TV but parades their children for profit in the public eye.
One rule I found out about that is on the official Duggar family website, is very creepy. While many of the rules make sense and speak of respect for others and their property, some are down right ominous, especially this one. Now as you read this remember all the blanket training that is supported, keep in mind the Duggars support the Pearls actively:
"Have a tough accountability/prayer partner to daily share your heart with and to keep you in line (your parents, spouse). The power of sin is in secrecy."
There is nothing in the Bible that says you must pour your heart out 100% to anyone but God. In fact, this is almost like Catholic confession, but instead of the priest hearing all of your secrets and sins, here they want them all poured out to a parent or spouse. If anything for normal development, young teens and adults are to form some independence from their parents. We see little of this happening among the Duggar young adult children. This is a trend I have seen within Dominionism. Where does all the hyper-helicopter parenting and "sheperding" lead?
The lack of privacy there, seems to be far more about cult control and to be frank this is something that cults DO advance, to make sure free thought and independence do not break out.
Michelle Duggar has written many things I find just strange on her recurring series of articles called PARENTABLES. There is your middle child, and son and what does this "loving" mother have to say about him except that he cleans toilets really well? What would you think if you were a teenage boy and realized your mother valued you the most for your chore skills? It almost sounds like she barely knows him.
As you read this ask yourself if this is normal for a 15 year old teenager? Some out there may say, hey he is just trying to help his family! And yes to raise a child with due diligence is a good thing, but I find myself kind of weirded out here.
"Right now his chore is cleaning the bathrooms. Our whole family has said when Josiah cleans the bathrooms he doesn't just clean them, he takes the whole thing apart and puts it back together. He literally takes the seat off of the toilet and scrubs around the little screws that latch the thing on and then he puts the seat back. He's not really a perfectionist but he really is just doing a thorough job and being diligent."
I have done a variety of different jobs in life and cleaning toilets was among them in my teen years at various restaurant and other jobs. I never unscrewed the toilet seat to clean a toilet. Perhaps the poor kid, is just trying to get some private time away, in peace and quiet, but it really reads quite strange.
Some other questions I have thought of from Michelle's writing...
What's so bad about shorts especially for boys? Haven't they heard of longer, looser cargo shorts? One can see the strains of strange legalisms, such as none of the Duggar children being allowed to wear shorts in the hot Arkansas summers. There are longer shorts that cover one's thighs. That particular rule isn't mentioned here, but there were enough shows I saw of kids swimming in T-shirts and JEANS. The weird focus on defrauding while Christians should keep modest remains me of the extremes of Islam and why women in some countries are told to wear burqas. Did anyone even use that word 50 years ago?
Will Josiah ever be allowed to be a real accountant? If an employer did not require a college program and more, and that is extremely rare, he may get a bookkeeping job. They always speak of their children taking classes etc, but it is not regular preparation. How will they make a true living lacking the right credentials? Sure maybe the world does over-require hoops in some areas, but having your kid just follow a professional around for a day or taking acouple online courses that are not the same as regular college credits does that mean a certain career will be open to them or that they are really going to college.
This article was strange, choosing to be on TV and famous, is "having a servant's heart"? This odd article probably was to respond to all the critics who asked why be on TV? This one asks people to suspend all disbelief.
Then there was this recently on the Today show. One of the latest off-the-wall Duggar statements:
I have to admit as far as Christian modesty goes, warning....this fails on endless levels: Duggar Dad: 'It's Fun' Trying For Baby No. 20 Mr. Duggar tells the world it's fun to keep trying for baby #21 [counting Jubilee]. A man who has almost watched his wife die, seen a miscarriage and another baby almost die, could take the option of biblical abstinence if he is still against non-abortive birth control. They both seem unrealistic, narcissistic if one was to use those terms instead of biblical ones, and immodest even to joke about such a thing in front of their adult and younger children. What is even sadder is those adult daughters, who remain entrenched at home, no opportunities to court, who basically live like nuns in a convent without even innocent interaction with young adult males they are not related to. One thinks that these parents should be focusing on the children they already have for once and helping young adults prepare for their adult lives instead of living in suspended childhood.
Mainstream news shows aren't exactly pushing the truth. Now think about that. What is even more horrible is they parade the girls around, and this is the second time, they have had them talked about suitors, where are they to come from out of the thin air?
"In this sneak peek of the season premiere of 19 Kids and Counting, the older girls discuss their ideal mates and all Jinger says is that she wants out of their small Arkansas town.
“She might do good with a visionary spunky person, somebody that gives her coffee,” Jill says about her sister’s ideal mate, but Jessa says it has to be outside of their small town.
“She doesn’t want to live three hours out from civilization,” and Jinger agrees. “No! City please city please,” Jinger begs with a smile."Some news stories out there, said, this was Jinger desiring real freedom a la the Free Jinger contingent but then her sister Jill puts her back in her place later, telling her to stay "content". Looks like the media fooled everyone saying Jinger wants out in various forms. I wondered if Jinger really made noises to flee the compound, but it just looked like more misdirection and perhaps a response to those wonder who would break free first. Yes Christian contentment is a virtue, but cult slavery when your family is a cult is not.
"Jill tries to tell Jinger that God has a plan for her. “If you didn’t get somebody like that the Lord can be working and teaching you something in that area.”
Jinger agrees with her and says “Yes that’s for sure; I need to work on my contentment!”
Notice one thing about those girls? While the gestures of Joy are different she is younger and there has been less time for molding, the hair, clothes and rest almost exactly match on the rest of them. This is where we see the tragedy of the SAHD movement [link given for information, not an endorsement] playing before us, young women basically locked in cage, unable to fly, have a job, prepare for adult life which in this world will leave them stranded with no real skills, told they must live at home until that special daddy-approved suitor shows up, and it doesn't look like this father is really interested in focusing on his daughter's finding a spouse, with his focus remaining on more babies.
So while Michelle and JimBob Duggar have their "fun", and think of new babies, their oldest daughters already are about to exit their early 20s and enter the mid 20s living in total limbo. Just imagine being 22-24 years old, and you live like a teenager with chores, while your peers have moved on to families, and children, jobs, perhaps even working the mission field. Going to ATI conferences doesn't count for living a free life.
What is odd to me, is how not one adult child has not broken away from the hive. This actually is against the experiences of most families where young adults seek after their own identities and beliefs. Perhaps I do not understand these girls nor relate to them because by a young age, I broke away from my family's religion testing it for myself and while I entered into a false church [the UU] and even entered a non-family approved profession--teaching, I would definitely keep searching for truth. But I am looking at the whole picture understanding the TRAINING aspects I posted about earlier. What kind of adults does the methods of the Pearls and blanket-training lead to? Maybe we see the answer right before us.
I found this comment elsewhere online. This person basically outlines the problems with the SAHD movement.
"At 22, I had been working as a nurse for 3 years. I didn't marry until 27 and didn't have children until 30. I am now a grandmother in my late 50's and a Christian over 45 years.
Stay at home daughterhood is not taught by Christ. Preferably stay at home momhood, but not daughterhood. It is a doctrine of man and you are wise to question this, because it will bury your talent, for which you will have to answer, handicap and possibly destroy your future, or that of your future children. The things you accomplish being a stay at home daughter - caring for a home - anyone can learn quickly. It does not take years of apprenticeship.
Christ is to be our focus, not family or marriage. I suggest you use these between years to get an education utilizing the talents you have been given and which can realistically provide for your future, and use it. You will then be far better prepared for yourself, your family, your husband, for Christ; should the need to work arise after marriage, or if you do not marry.
Marriage is not the end all be all. Some never marry. The bible actually says that to not marry is the better state to be in. Some are widowed. Some are divorced. Some are left with sick or dying husbands. There are no guarantees. The only guarantee we have is our salvation in Christ.
What will you do if your parents or husband become sick or die unexpectedly, or your husband suffers a financial disaster and you are left with nothing? No education. No money. No means but huge responsibilities and children who need to be provided for? It happens. And what if you then get sick?
Get to work on your life so that you can be an asset to Christ and others, not a liability. The best way to do that is to become a fully functioning responsible adult through education and work. You are an adult. And you will have to answer someday for what you have done with your gifts. A woman accompanying her husband to the mission field is far more valuable if she is a nurse, doctor, teacher. Anyone can set a pretty table.
The no man's land you seem to think you are caught in is the result of being told by man to stay at home while burying your talent. Sitting around pining about your state of limbo makes you look like a fool, and not a very wise fool for Christ.
Even if you read articles about FLDS, and other cults, many of the young people reaching a certain age break away, and it seems that is done far earlier on, age 16-18 or once they reach the age of majority in whatever state they live in. They do not follow their parents in everything. Is this the result of the blanket training where even in adulthood, young people refuse to go past the "boundaries"? Sorry but this will not form self sustaining or independent adults.
I know being under media attention has to change the game plan a bit, but to me this is one of the greatest tragedies of the Duggar family. I've traveled some of those SAHD blogs, sometimes I post to tell them the truth and give one or two one of my articles, but most do not post my comments. One thing I found on them after reading many of them is one often sees very sad young adult women, who have been brainwashed to remain under their father's perpetual authority pining away for the lives unlived, and the saddest thing, is they all believe this is God's will. It is not. To be honest, the MAJORITY I've seen have had the young women sharing this same sentiment.
This is how false religious brainwashing can damage lives. Those years will never be regained. Others lose years due to health and other problems that occur in life. Yes, this is a tragedy in the making. We see it playing out with the Duggar girls now. All of the Duggar kids are not being prepared, with even career paths and college being limited for the boys.
There are other things I've noticed too even while researching even the other Duggar articles, no outside friends allowed except for from a few Quiverful families who all seem to live long distance, the young adults and teens are not allowed free access to the internet and only allowed to see certain websites and must ask one of the oldest sisters or Michelle for a password, everyone knows about the strange focus on kissing being only after marriage. FLDS like--keep sweet rules, where negative emotions are to be curtailed, and much more. Even the delusion in not preparing young people for the hardness of life, what it takes to survive, and make a living should a spouse never show up, in this economy borders on insanity.
One thing I am going to tell my readers, I have contact with some in the fundamentalist church world, some of this is old church members, and others, more and more are seeing this as a viable way of life, I can tell some are even entering into this mode though perhaps not to the extreme as the Duggars. Words like "defrauding", "courtship", etc are reaching my ears. Even when I have told some about Gothard and ATI, keep in mind, these beliefs and cultural imperatives are being spread through the homeschool movement and other places, they would just tell me, "but they are a nice family!".
In fact, here one can see how the "right and left deception" leads to all sorts of imbalances. Remember the Duggars are held as up as the "ideal" Christian family, many see Kirk Cameron as a Christian "example" to follow. See what I mean? There are those who desire to influence Christianity, even taking those things which are such as modesty, traditional ways of doing things and adding a twist to it all turning it into something else. This is about turning to the appearance of good, turning "Christianity" into an odd subculture, where they desire to change even family structures. The Duggars are the advertisement for much of it. For you see that is what is being done, they are trying to add a new subcultural FAUX foundation for "conservative", "evangelical", "fundamentalist" "Christianity". One that holds to the letter of the law not to the spirit. Do you understand what I mean? The thing that makes me the saddest, is the children and young adults who will pay a high price.
Romans 7:6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.