Monday, July 16, 2012


Luk 14:13    But when thou makest a feast, call the poor, the maimed, the lame, the blind:

As I wrote in the politics of deceit article, both sides work together to divide, and make people "hate" whoever they want people to hate. Satan as prince of this world definitely is working all angles.

They are doing it with race, religion--teaching people to hate instead of witnessing Jesus Christ's love, and they are doing it with economic class: rich vs. poor. On many "conservative" websites, you will see many actually insult and put down anyone who is on welfare, poor or in need of food stamps, but then while there are those who rip off the system, you'll never hear about the trillions to bankers or the endless wars America has immersed itself in on behalf of the globalists with TRILLION of dollars attached. The whole Tea Party phenomenon has been the controlled inverse of the whole Occupy movement. Both desire what the power elite wants and that is class warfare: more strife, more division a la "divide and conquer" and more power for the central bankers and elite. 

Even if someone believes that welfare was a bad idea, with the state taking over things families and churches should be helping with, what of all the people who basically say, throw everyone in the gutter with no options today? You know some of their rhetoric may make sense if they actually wanted to help the poor in a Christian manner. You don't see any of these types really wanting to return to the ways things were done in the old days where Christian families and churches shared resources. Suggest that and they will look at you like you are insane. If anything these types have led to more decline in community and more division between people.

Video by secular newscaster but shows his words:

David Barton managed to insult the poor not so long ago.
Wouldn't it be interesting to do a study between those that are on welfare and see how much and how often they read the Bible. You know, if Booker T. Washington is right that Christianity and reading the Bible increases your desires and therefore your ability for hard work; if we take that as an axiom, does that mean that the people who are getting government assistance spend nearly no time in the Bible, therefore have no desire, and therefore no ability for hard work? I could go a lot of places with this. I would love to see this proven out in some kind of sociological study, but it makes perfect sense.

Notice how he says the poor here, don't read the Bible and are lazy? What absurdity is that? I have lived in poor communities and affluent ones, and one thing I have noticed personally is you will find more Christian believers in rural and urban communities that are poor. If anything there are less Christian believers, the more wealthy a place is. Perhaps there are a few exceptions but if you move to Appalachia your choices of a true Bible believing church or assembly probably will be better then if you move to a rich Boston suburb. This has been my experience when it comes to the wealthy vs the poor. What did Jesus say about that rich man having a harder time getting into heaven? What snobbery coming from David Barton! Sounds like he wants to help the elite exploit more "hard working" serfs.

Hard work is important for those healthy enough to work, but what of the side, that work is being denied MILLIONS in America via all the outsourcing?  Those who aren't working for Satan or who have their eyes even half-way open can see the closed factories all over the place.

This is another deceiver who will never deal with the fact of what is happening to America and how our economy is being destroyed by plan by the elite instead like the other minions of the false religion right, they will blame the victims of the deceit, corruption and world-wide rip offs! Hey they got the brainwash-a-thons going through out the church system such as teaching people if they are "industrious" enough and "act" like rich people they will become wealthier.

Poverty In America Growing Worse with Churches Even More Out of Touch

What is so astonishing out there, is how many are ignoring what the Bible says about the poor? Lately I have been increasingly disturbed, so called Christian believers I know scoffing at the poor and call them disgusting and lazy. Even recently I was in one of these discussions.  Earlier in life, I was even told by a Christian friend that fellowshipping with some homeless people was a bad idea and that I would be bringing myself "down". Yes that is the attitudes that are going on out there, and they are WRONG. 

 I found myself in the position of telling someone, that not everyone on welfare was lazy and that many people on welfare are WORKING, thought at low-level jobs that pay under subsistence wages. I have known people who even had low level jobs forced to live in their car in the past. While there are kind people of all classes, the out of touch types seem to be growing even more entrenched and adamant in their hatred for the poor and blaming them for all the country's problems. This is not going anywhere good not at all. This hatred of the poor makes me sick. Why didn't one person get up and tell Barton he just basically said the opposite of what Jesus taught?

Here is something I feel led to talk about, this regards the drought that they have just declared a DISASTER in 26 states, to help advance their global warming and sustainable development lies. This definitely is going to be having the outcome of making food prices in America skyrocket. They are already high now, but just wait!  What do you think this is going to do the availability of food or the price of groceries? Do pray to God about any needs to prepare if you are able to do so. I know personally now even in communities that are not even that poor, the food pantries and more are strained to the breaking point. People are not getting the same kind of help they used to get. We already have tons of Americans now barely able to keep the rent paid and food on the table, and just imagine too if the Obamacare 'tax' is dumped on people increasing their monthly bills, by a huge amount too.

Yes there are those who take advantage of the system but we are now living in a country where 100 million people are unemployed and they are not all lazy good-for nothings, like these types would have you believe. Reading the above made me sick. I have covered this issue before exposing preachers who take up for the new world order and the elite and those who have worldly attitudes towards the poor.

Preachers Blaming The Poor for the Debt: Covering Up the Real Causes

I am going to lay something out flat here, I have nonbelievers tell me all the time that Christians hate the poor. Hey why wouldn't they believe that way, when they see the hirelings on TV always put the poor down and take up for the elite? These conservative preachers and politicians always take up for the fat cats. Sure the left lies too, they want more control, more enslavement as they use the poor as pawns. Both converging both sides for the cause of the new world order and their dream of globalism and a one world government.

What is scary to me is how the poor are now isolated and the experiences of millions of underemployed, unemployed, and other people facing poverty is being ignored by the churches, ignored by the media as if they do not exist. They are told the economy is improving. They are told by out of touch still employed people, that they have something "wrong" with them. FEW ARE SEEING THE BIG PICTURE. I used to visit churches around were I live, and I noticed even in many of them the plight of the poor was ignored. The poor remained outside the churches. The unemployment percentages they name of it being near 8% is total nonsense, the real numbers are closer to the first depression's levels.

The religious right advances HATRED for the poor. In fact for years, while I understand how the left exploits the poor, all too often the messages from the religious right, is to blame the poor. They advance meritocracy and tell poor people they are that way due to an endless number of faults. In the Dominionist world, I am noticing the smug preaching regarding the impoverished and a type of middle class and above elitism is ever present.  Much of their preaching isn't even relevant for a working class or below person's life. It is based on false things of this world. By the way there is a direct correlation with the so called Christians who hate and disdain the poor who support the police state. I have seen the two go hand in hand so many times.  David Barton advances Dominionism so why wouldn't he match the rest of his deceiving brethern on that account?They defend every evil and corruption that comes under the name of capitalism, while advancing third way communism.  Everyone who sat there nodding blindly to Barton's words, disobeyed Jesus Christ.

Luk 14:21    So that servant came, and shewed his lord these things. Then the master of the house being angry said to his servant, Go out quickly into the streets and lanes of the city, and bring in hither the poor, and the maimed, and the halt, and the blind.


Anonymous said...

Wow, i didnt even realize how right wing christians are being taught to disdains the poor. This article was very convicting.

Anonymous said...

A couple things I could point out:

1) I used to minister exclusively to the homeless, and there were a lot of believers in their ranks. And I'm talking about believers that knew doctrine, that understood the Bible, that had true fruit coming from their lives.

2) Don't forget the attitude that existed in the first churches, that James had to knock down in James 2:1-7. Perhaps you cited James 2:1-7, but if not, it would be an important Scripture to cite in the context of your article. So that attitude that the Lord had to correct through James, that attitude is still alive.

The super-wealthy elite have tried to take control of "Christendom" just like the Pharisees tried to take control of the worship of the God of Israel.

Anonymous said...

Here is a portion of scripture that I find relevant:

Psalm 10:2-3

2 The wicked in his pride doth persecute the poor: let them be taken in the devices that they have imagined.

3 For the wicked boasteth of his heart's desire, and blesseth the covetous, whom the Lord abhorreth.


The evangelical church today is steeped in the false prosperity "gospel". Untold millions have been taught to boast of their heart's desire and bless the covetous. This is a wicked error and has led to a hardening towards the poor and those on the margin of society (uneducated, disabled, elderly, foreign etc).

Are some people living at poverty level because of sinful decisions? Yes. However let's ask the unasked question: Are some people living a life of luxury as a result of sinful actions? Of course, and therefore the argument that poverty follows sin is ridiculous.

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Bible Believer said...

First anon, yes they are definitely doing this, I hear and read it all the time from their so called teachers. One can tell the nasty attitudes towards the poor are filtering down.

Bible Believer said...

Thanks 2nd anon.

I believe you about their being Christians among the homeless ranks. When a person loses everything and is broken, often times this will lead them to Jesus Christ. I knew numbers among the poor in my old rural town who were outside the regular church system. Remember one family who left an apostate church and told me why and they knew doctrine and understood the Bible very strongly. If anything those who are not caught up in the whole social status world are more open to the truth.

Thanks for mentioning James 2:1-7

"1 My brethren, have not the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, with respect of persons. 2 For if there come unto your assembly a man with a gold ring, in goodly apparel, and there come in also a poor man in vile raiment; 3 And ye have respect to him that weareth the gay clothing, and say unto him, Sit thou here in a good place; and say to the poor, Stand thou there, or sit here under my footstool: 4 Are ye not then partial in yourselves, and are become judges of evil thoughts? 5 Hearken , my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him? 6 But ye have despised the poor. Do not rich men oppress you, and draw you before the judgment seats? 7 Do not they blaspheme that worthy name by the which ye are called ?"

We know that isn't happening in today's churches. People who are poorer, don't relate to the "tithe" $100 plus more with travel conferences, "cultural" evangelical world. I don't relate to it nor do I want to since they teach so many false things. Today most of the churches are elevating the preachers and those who can "give" most money to the church. The poor aren't being invited and treated what James 2 dictates except in very rare churches, and independent ones. You are right about the super-wealthy elite taking control of "Christiandom" and it's just like the elite Pharisees. I wrote an article some time ago about how Poor people are leaving the churches, I know this as PERSONAL fact from two places I have lived. They know they do not "fit" in, when you cannot keep your own rent paid or groceries on the table barely, some preacher railing for his 10%, to buy himself a new car or go on a missions 'vacation' to Jamaica just isn't going to cut it anymore.

The whole megachurch culture is even worse, very biased towards the middle class and above.

So yes, things have become elitist.

Of course this ties into the "out of touch" preachers like Platt and rest telling Americans to send their money overseas instead of helping those at home.

The poor are out of sight out of mind in most of the churches today. {yes there are some exceptions but I see evidence this is growing}

Bible Believer said...

Hi third anon,

Yes the prosperity gospel goes totally against God's Word and in so many ways this is the terrain of the smug and already middle class and above, thinking they are "rich" in this world because they "deserve" it but they also suck in poorer people who think this is their way to move up the ladder.

They are told to boast of what they want in THIS WORLD. All the Have your best life now stuff ties into this too.The whole phony baloney human potential movement married to the self-improvement mantras, the consumerist society and corporations unload for profit, all mixed into one really bad stew.

Yes there is a definitely hardening of hearts out there towards the poor and those on the fringes of society.

Isn't part of Republicanism to 'hate the poor" and see them as a "threat" to all the profits when bailouts, endless wars like their lust for war with Iran, and outsourcing of jobs is to continued unencumbered? Even the Ron Paul-Libertarian segment is all fooled the illusion called a free-market system for the globe.

The Occupy movement is NWO run too and being used for control and other agendas, but you'd think some on the other side would wake up a little bit instead of thinking "dirty hippies" would ask questions about our young people being automatically saddled with 50,000 dollar plus debts just to begin a career of some sort, and now with the jobs all gone, that is not even guaranteed anymore.

Yes there is sin that can keep people in poverty but this idea POOR equals automatically EVIL SINNERS really is distressing to see in Christian circles.
Even if one examines the history of many groups, exploitation and greed of others and closing down factories led them to the places they ended up at. People can suffer their own sins but ALSO THE SINS OF OTHERS.

"Are some people living a life of luxury as a result of sinful actions?"

You are right the answer to this is definitely YES.

Jer 12:1 Righteous art thou, O LORD, when I plead with thee: yet let me talk with thee of thy judgments: Wherefore doth the way of the wicked prosper? wherefore are all they happy that deal very treacherously?

Many of these false preacher in service to Satan are helping advance the hardening of hearts and the NWO view of the poor.

Bible Believer said...

I just saw this.

Another out of touch guy:

"Forced "charity" that takes from the successful and merely redirects it to the unsuccessful provides the wrong kind of incentives. Our tax and welfare systems should reward thrift, entrepreneurship, and industry, not indolence, timidity, and profligacy."

Industry in America? While they are busy sending it overseas.

You'll notice the poor are lazy meme right in there.

Didn't he get the news yet, that the American economy is FAILING?

Oh yeah probably believes everything he reads in the news.

And smug "Christians" will read that nonsense and while they cheer for Romney to pursue more trillions worth of war in Iran, will say, YES those poor people are our downfall as they kneel down before the NWo police state.

Actually I do think they plan to strip the safety nets clean, but do any of you really see any of today's Rev 3 churches stepping up? The NWO wants to strip the "serfs" clean, and these guys like this are their servants.

Hey they'll vote for Romney to outsource even more jobs, just what Obama has been doing for 4 years.

Anonymous said...

wow I read that christian post link. Its scary seeing christians thinking like that. But I can understand because I used to think like that. Ive must have been insane. I believed my pastor when he told us to vote for Bush, McCain, and now Romney. Im not sure why I never read the scriptures seriously. I dont know, but I know I will read them now. Please pray for me. Thank you for opening my eyes to the deception creeping in the church.--J

Mike Hoover said...

For all you "feed the poor" "social justice – Dorothy Day" sort of Christians. There will be no justice until it starts for the individual, unborn child in the womb of his or her mother. Poverty of the heart and soul is the most egregious, contemptuous sin known in our world today.

1 Samuel 2:7-8; Psalm 50:6; Luke 1:52-53

Bible Believer said...

This is not a leftist website either.

Read this:

How do you define "poverty of the heart and soul"?

Abortion is the result of people being away from God and choosing evil.

Are you a Catholic?