Friday, June 8, 2012

The "Christian" Experts and Their Delusions

This was a conference from 2011 called Future Congress, but the list of speakers is interesting. What are we to think of all these individuals coming together to warn about these certain topics?

Interesting collection of people who spoke at this one. Some names we know include Chuck Missler, G Edward Griffin [him too? Didn't he expose the Federal Reserve in that one book?], Tom Horn, Terry James--who has appeared at Rapture Ready conferences, Chris Pinto, Sharon and Dereck Gilbert who advance the false alien themes too, and Russ Dizdar.

Some of the "classes" or lectures had some interesting titles:

"The Illuminati" Doc Marquis

"AntiGenetics 101: The Rise of Dragon DNA" Sharon Gilbert [Where does the Bible talk about "Dragon DNA", it's a deception!], those that Icke calls "lizards" and the rest, it's demonic possession not DNA produced from angels and men reproducing. As I wrote on my long ago Nephilim article, see below, while there are some sincere folks exploring the Nephilim stuff, I asked why is this being so emphasized? Of course most here know I believe it is a major deception.

As for the Gilberts avoid their PID website, and the rest. I saw it YEARS ago, and had IMMEDIATE NEGATIVE discernment upon seeing their photos and websites even before I knew 10% of what I have written on this blog. Why would they name a "Christian radio" station PEERING INTO DARKNESS?  Aren't Christians supposed to LOOK AWAY FROM THE DARKNESS?

1 John 1:5 This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.

Missler has appeared on their radio show:

"The Coming Replacement Human" Tom Horn The scientists are messing with transhumanism and more, but shouldn't we be more worried about our sins then discovering who is a "real" human or not? Talk about setting up for future delusions. One thing the way these people are teaching everyone, "Christians" will be running around more worried about aliens and *fake* humans rather then sticking to biblical truths such as casting demons out and letting the Holy Spirit lead them.

"The Black Awakening", Russ Dizdar. This guy runs another strange website, that speaks of "Shattering the Darkness". I am not even going to link to it. All I will say about this one is my personal opinion is TO STAY AWAY. I had a Calvary Chapelist send me this person's DVDs years ago and listened to one and another did not work. I heard a lot of non-biblical teachings and use of fear and extreme focus on evil to influence Christians. It's been years since I heard it, but I knew enough to stay away. He does focus on mind control, satantic infiltration of the church and luciferians, and in that there may be some snippets of truth but then you wonder what is coming WITH it?

I guess seeing him connected to Missler at the 2011 Future Congress is not a surprise. He is advertising something called Project Josiah on his website too. It looks evil, the one red eye and militarism on the ad, is disturbing. Am I out on a limb here to say, this DOES NOT look like a CHRISTIAN AD?

Russ Dizdar also at this conference did another lecture on Dark Rituals, Dark Powers. 

One odd class or seminar was Chris Pinto, warning about the Jesuits "Rome in America" Chuck Missler's class, lecture or seminar was "History Written Before it Happens"

I only named a few of the lectures, but take a look at the link to see them all. 

One thing I am noticing out there, is there are those out there seeking to mislead Christians who are interested in Bible prophecy and more, and maybe even who have discovered a few things, such as the masonic designs behind Washington or the existence of mind control, but remember what I have said about the layers of deception? There is so much misleading of Christians out there. We are in the days, where you need to basically get away from the "experts" just read your Bible and pray. Hey even with THIS blog, I don't conside myself an "expert" just a fellow Christian believer warning people, but check everything out and go to your Bible and God FIRST.

  Too many are overawed by those they see as their "intellectual" superiors who in some of these cases have thousands of bible verses memorized. Just because someone is 'smarter' then you does not mean they are listening to the wisdom of God. I sat for years in the UU during my unsaved years, being bamboozled by the scientists, published authors and high levels of the intelligensia, why should anyone close down their brains for the supposed "Christian experts"? I wasn't planning to do it again. There they used their higher status and celebration by the world too, to advance their deceptions.

1Jo 2:26    These [things] have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.

I have to admit, this is one thing I was thinking about the other day, look at all this stuff like at this 2011 Future Congress seminar, it is depressing, it seems to bring forth despair, *fake* humans, demons, nuclear war, "black awakenings", what else am I missing? Should Bible conferences be like attending the darkest science fiction movie you can think of? I posted a picture of a nuclear bomb here once, on some article, but they never miss a chance to sprinkle giant mushroom clouds on their literature and websites. [see the bottom of the Future Congress pages]

  Hey I know I focus a bit on the "negative" here to warn people and trust me it is something that troubles me. God loves us, but it is the NWO that wants to bring everyone's minds into all this all this dark stuff. I probably will be doing an article soon expanding on this topic, the more subtle ways that minds are being influenced. America itself has fallen into a free fall of out and out terror and fear, that has been used for control and worse. Its being done via false religion too.

Even with prepping and the endless disasters, I was thinking the other day, "hey, what can I do about it?" God will take care of me and you too if you have trusted in Him. Even if all their "hell on earth" scenarios came true [yes the Bible warns about what is coming to this world too] what can you do about it. What are we to do? 

Mat 10:31    Fear ye not therefore, ye are of more value than many sparrows.

One way these people get over on people and influence them, is the FEAR FACTOR. People are scared to death now of the world imploding, they got us coming and going. Some are dealing with severe health problems or other problems in everyday life beyond the "world" blowing up or the *alien* take-overs warned of over and over by these guys. They can attract people into this stuff too having them focus on these things instead of pressing everyday problems or even their own sins. I often think too how none of them talk about real issues, like the America economy being in free-fall or reminders for Christians to come together and help each other as God leads. It's all "science fiction" skewing the book of Revelation and "make you scared out of your wits" scenarios. With the demons, and "aliens" [cough really demons too] , if you have faith in God, do you need STRATEGIES and WARFARE or to know every one of "THEIR EMERGING THREATS" to battle them? One thing I was thinking about writing this article, is all the ZOMBIE nonsense the news seems to be pushing, and how they plan to use that garbage to bring people to be even be more deceived and troubled. They ARE wearing people out via sheer attrition. Go to your Bible to get answers, why some of these things are happening where human beings are showing some of the darkest behaviors possible and that we never imagined before. [hint: it's not just DRUGS]. 

Hey if you think you can "win" with your own human intellect, you will lose. That is where trusting in God comes in. It is also not your job to "battle" the "zombies", "aliens", "fake humans", demons, you do so trusting in God, calling on Him and letting Him DEAL with them. 

By the way when studying or warning about the satanists, aliens, demons and even the luciferians, I do not want to know every creepy detail. There is really bad stuff in this world. I do believe there are some things God wants us to know, like who the false teachers are, and how to respond, but you ever wonder about the "teachers" who go down every list of demons/and or "aliens" and study them so intently and want you to as well? That is what I thought about Russ Dizdar. 

Why do some of these people look to FALSE PROPHECIES, like Roman Catholic ones instead of the Bible? As an ex-Catholic, I know the Catholic church is full of endless false legends and fake prophecies, such as the "three days of darkness", etc. etc. Don't trust those who go to EVERY OTHER SOURCE but the Bible, like going to gnostic books, Enoch--some of them may downplay saying it's not scripture but when they use it as a source over and over, that's a problem, Catholic prophecies and NOSTRADAMUS, who has made an appearance on some of these websites too. 

If you haven't seen these articles make sure you read them as well to keep this all in context:

See these posts to understand especially the drumbeats focusing on the ALIENS....

More Thinking About Raider's News Network, Chuck Missler, Tom Horn, Aliens and Science Fiction

Why So Much Vatican and Evangelical Interest in Aliens? Setting Up for Deception

and especially "Deceiving you with aliens and nephilim"

With the experts, be done with them. Depend on the Holy Spirit as your teacher.

Jhn 14:26    But the Comforter, [which is] the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.


Anonymous said...


Thank you! I truly know that you are speaking truth because so many things I read in my Bible studies, you then also emphasize which confirms for me.

From Luke 12
4 And I say unto you my friends, Be not afraid of them that kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do.

5 But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.

6 Are not five sparrows sold for two farthings, and not one of them is forgotten before God?

7 But even the very hairs of your head are all numbered. Fear not therefore: ye are of more value than many sparrows.

Bible Believer said...

Thank you Labby.

I have been pondering how fear is being used NOW on a larger scale even outside the Christian world and then thinking about these conferences, what are they imparting to people?

Ever notice the same THEMES are constantly hammered on by all these folks. You never see any depart off the Aliens/Zionist/Dominionist reservation.

Thanks for posting more of Luke 12. Yes Jesus gave us very needed warnings.

Anonymous said...


Your quote from Matthew went exactly with what I just read from Luke about an hour ago!

Yes, I am really beginning to see it. I was getting more confused about a year ago (especially with the Missler stuff), but it's slowly been making more sense. The alien storylines are just exploding. It's better to get a handle on that now, than to wait until a big event happens and be totally thrown off-guard.

You are right about trying to connect the actual people involved. That's a great way to develop a good sense of who they are and what they are about.

I think they are imparting confusion and fear, two things Jesus warned against.

Good Soldier said...

Dear Bible Believer
I used to listen to Russ Dizdar when I first got saved. But after a time of listening to his radio show and training courses I just got repulsed buy his voice and his repetitive speech patterns and his constant glorification of what Satan was about to do in the world with the Black Awakening. I wouldn't recommend you watch his youtube videos ether as he constantly flashes the most demonic images before your eyes. There is a way to talk about the stuff he talks about without having to initiate the Christian listener into the dark arts. Having come out of the New Age movement myself and having studied many many occult topic before I got saved, the last thing I want to do is listen to Christians who endlessly talk about it. For instance Chris Pinto's Riddles in Stone trilogy is nothing other than a Freemason Satanic initiation. The viewer comes away thinking about how the jewel from Satan crown is entombed in the corner of some building in D.C.. Why do Christians need to know Masonic mythology and how dose that edify the Body of Christ. Personally I wish I could forget everything I know about the occult and the last thing I want to do is talk about what I know and make products to sell to Christians all about these so called mystical riddles. Why not just read and teach the Bible and preach the Glorious Gospel of Jesus Christ who is come in the flesh. But instead people like Pinto and Missler set up company's that presume the authority from God to educate the body of Christ with there endless Intel packs and propaganda documentaries leading the flock astray while they worship and seek there true god Mammon.

Mat 6:24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

2Pe 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
2Pe 2:2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
2Pe 2:3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.

"with feigned words make merchandise of you:"

They are merchandiser of anything strange and occult or secret while using the very same symbols and jargon themselves to promote there merchandise. But sadly there are plenty buyer for what they are selling.

In Christ

Bible Believer said...

Thanks good soldier, I definitely agree with what you have to say. I listened to that one DVD, and remember thinking along the same way. There are things I remember from my years in the occult too. One way the occult does drag people in, is via "fascination". I want to forget what I learned while in the UU and occult stuff. When they are so avidly exploring mystical things like they are good, instead of telling people to run for the hills it's bad news.

William Saunders said...

Whether it's Quantum Mysticism, the Freemason stuff in Chris Pinto's DVD's or other satanic stuff being preached by "Christians" they all have ideas & concepts Satan wants to place in our minds.

It doesn't matter if you are a promoter of this stuff or an "exposer" of this stuff, the ideas & concepts are still being planted.

In the end it nothing other than a distraction from the word of God.

These conferences (like the one coming up) are Satan's ideas & concepts being sold as Christian.

Satan raises up Quantum Mysticism and Satan raise up the solution to Quantum Mysticism.

It's the Hegelian Dialectic.

Thesis + anti-Thesis = Synthesis

It doesn't matter where you sit in the formula, Satan has planted the ideas & concepts in the mind.

Proverbs 4:20-25 -

20 My son, attend to my words; incline thine ear unto my sayings.

21 Let them not depart from thine eyes; keep them in the midst of thine heart.

22 For they are life unto those that find them, and health to all their flesh.

23 Keep thy heart with all diligence; for out of it are the issues of life.

24 Put away from thee a froward mouth, and perverse lips put far from thee.

25 Let thine eyes look right on, and let thine eyelids look straight before thee.

Satan is very clever and the apostate church has no idea who they are dealing with even though they think they do.

I agree, the whole fascination thing is the door. Dress is up with a few Bible verses and it has "the appearance of light".

Marion said...

BTW...check out the latest update on the Just when you thought you've seen or heard it all concerning this continuing saga! What a shame!

"This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
Without natural affection, truce-breakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasure more than lovers of God;
Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof; from such turn away.
For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the do these now also resist the truth: men of currupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.
But they shall proceed no further: their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as their also was."...2 Tim. 3:1-9)

"Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.
But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.." (2 Tim. 3:12-13)

They like to tell the 'christian masses' that we are in the last days, and what are the signs...according to the above, THEY are the signs!

Anonymous said...

The Bible says to expose the deeds of darkness, but it also says to mark and AVOID them.

It isn't necessary to research and point out every manner of evil although blogs like this one are certainly needed.

I do often think that unless the message is kept simple it is simply preaching to the choir.

Also, we can get wrapped up in the knowledge of evil and forget to arm ourselves with truth, sound, doctrinal truth.

There are those who call themselves discerners, watchers, etc. who expose evil but fail to defend sound doctrine and the basics of salvation. They find common ground with those who share a concern about forms of evil and as the old saying goes, misery loves company. In the process sound doctrine can get lost or placed on the back burner and the issues being exposed become the greater concern. Exposing error is lonely business and it is tempting to align oneself with another that if off doctrinally.

It is sort of like social conservatives marching for a cause no matter if it means being unequally yoked with unbelievers.

It is a danger and a trap that all watchers need to be cognizant of.

Yes, there are times when one needs to hone in on something and drive home a point, but we must constantly be on guard.

Delving into the "finer" points of evils and building a conference around them, though well-intentioned is a mistake. Mostly it will only serve to suck people into becoming "experts" in evil rather than being based in solid doctrine. It won't do much of anything for John & Joanie Christian who are just needing to get the general idea of what to avoid.
Mark and AVOID - flee from evil.
The saints need to be equipped to know how to discern and ferret out evil, but this is rarely taught.

Anonymous said...

(Aka symbol alert)

Regarding the multiplication of and wide-spread obsession with these sci-fi End-Times theories…the Lord has spoken to us and warned us ahead of time through His Holy Scripture. I apologize in advance for the CAPS, but I don’t want anyone to miss it:

2 Timothy 4:3-5

“3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto FABLES.

5 But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.”

“For the time will come…” I believe we are living in that time. Sound doctrine is what we need! Watch, endure, and evangelize.

All of us need to be aware and resist the temptation to follow fables. Our enemy has endless diversions ready. Each diabolically fabricated fable has a never-ending trail of “clues” that never leads to the truth.

There is only one truth we need to focus on:
John 14:6

“Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”

Bible Believer said...

Thank you for that word in that verse in CAPS, yes FABLES.

They are widespread now.

Christians need to remember the SCI-FI stuff, they have been working on people in America [namely] for over 50 years with this stuff. Many of these things would not have been acceptable even that many years ago. I agree with what you had to say about the CLUES, that lead to the endless Satanic rabbit trails.

Anonymous M said...

Speaking of fables, an expose' about another wolf in sheep's clothing has been posted in the comments section at this link

by a commenter named Marion about a Michael Hoggard

Anonymous said...

Nice blog, and good commentary from the readers.
Matthew 24:3-4
"...take heed that NO MAN deceive you"
I really started awakening to all this when I was learning about high Brix, mineral dense food. Here's one that took some time to accept and believe, but I now do...
"all disease is the result of a mineral deficiency" - Dr. Carey Reams
God made Adam from the earth, and the mineral and nutrient requirements of plants, animals and people are very much the same. I won't go into too much detail here, but I want to point those interested in caring for God's temple(s), to check out this man, the fruits of his life, his God given RBTI, and pray and discern if this isn't truth. Also for your consideration, GMO/GE foods have been found in lab animal testing to affect reproduction, organ damage, and affects mineral absorption. 100 years ago, 1 in 33 people were expected to have some form of cancer. Today, it's 1 in 2 or 3 people. This is not by accident. See Georgia Guidestones - American Stone henge.
"My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge" Hosea 4:6
I have mixed feelings on Russ Dizdar. SRA is real. Most people don't want to think about it. Russ speaks on his program to satanists, new agersThe main "red flag" being that he'll speak of Skull & bones, Bilderberg, etc., but he won't (that I've heard) touch the Vatican and Jesuits. That is the top of the pyrimid power structure, as I've found. He also praises Dr. Stan Monteith, who puts truth info out there, but will not touch the Jesuits. Same with Alex Jones, Alan Watt, and most others. They are running a business, like most churches and pastors now.
What day is the sabbath? I've known since childhood it was Saturday. Why then do the majority of Christians hold to Sun-day? The unholy Roman church changed it, and most protest-ant people have followed the beast. Does it matter which day we keep as the sabbath? God said keep it holy, and added it to the 10 commandments. Did it matter that Cain brought his best produce as an offering to God? Apparently it did, as it was not what God demanded.
I now believe THIS is the mark of the beast. What the enemy wants most of God's creation, is worship. And he channels worship any way he can. RFID is but an enforcement tool, to affect the buying and selling.

Anonymous M said...

Russ Dizdar prowls around in the same wolf pack with Missler, Horn, and others...check out "God's Ghostbusters" on to see the list of collaborators on that work.

About this Reams guy...from his website:

"God is the basis of life, life is the basis of energy, energy is the basis of matter." ?????? - red flag -(science falsely called)

"Throughout more than 5 decades Reams worked as a consultant, researcher, and lecturer. A significant milestone in Reams' life occurred in 1931. During a period of prayer and fasting Reams received a divine revelation of the biochemistry numbers for humans in perfect health." ????? - red flag - (divine revelation; numbers)

Also from his site:

According to Reams, "Ionization is God's laws putting things together and taking them apart ion by ion." Dave Larson, a student of Reams and Skow, put it this way; "Biological Ionization is the study of how energy becomes matter and how matter becomes energy on a continuous basis." According to Reams, RBTI offers a way to measure the energy in elements, compounds, and biological systems including humans." ???? - red flag - (energy doesn't become matter - this is evolution and the basis of "quantum physics/spirituality"...

One does not need prayer to "discern" the truth about this man, in spite of how they commend "his faith" to see that this ideology is "anti-Christ". One need only "see" what they are is not scriptural.

Bible Believer said...

Thanks for the warnings regarding Hoggard.

Bible Believer said...

Second Anon...

I believe our food has become massively adulterated and is being changed, via GMO's etc, to bring forth disease for the NWO's depopulation campaigns. They have done scientific studies where they are realizing less nutrients are coming into the food and that this includes a dearth of minerals as well.
GMO foods are doing extraordinary damage and they have suppressed studies, \with sick animals and more.

These things are in the foods supply now. They also know that the poor are far less likely to have access to organic and wholesome food so guess who eats more of the adulaterated stuff leading to illness?

I know someone in their early 20s who has been diagnosed with stomach cancer. The cancer rates are shooting up. They are not talking about this of course. Who knows what damage Fukishima will be doing as well?

I have written about Georgia GuideStones on here before. The NWO ANNOUNCES IT's PLANS.

Yes be careful of Russ Dizdar. I do think mind control is real and SRA too, but they can even twist those things to influence people in the wrong direction. Hearing hours of tapes of the man himself, I discerned many falsehoods. That really upset me as there are people who grew up in satanic ritual abuse, etc who would need help and then what if deception is waiting for them by someone they may seek "help" from?

Yeah avoid the "teachers" who avoid the Vatican. I have noticed many false ministries etc, that never touch the Vatican with a ten foot pole, you are right about it being the top of the pyramid structure, well lucifer is at the very top.

The promotion of said to be CNP member is also a problem.

I do not think the specific sabbath day matters, we are no longer held to OT, and Bible says do not judge as to sabbath. There I think saturday is the more accurate day but there can be some liberty about it. {obviously I went to church on Sunday when I was in an IFB}

The SDA may have some truth about Saturday, but their claim that is the mark of the beast is in error.

Check out what I wrote about SDA and their heavy heavy connections to Rome.

With the RFID chip or would be tattoo [I believe will be the mark of the beast], I believe that is someone giving "ownership" of themselves to Satan seeking to bypass the dignity of a human being being of God. They literally turn themselves into a marked MARKET commodity to be BOUGHT AND SOLD.

Bible Believer said...

Anon M,

Thanks for telling me about God's Ghostbusters.

That is telling associations.

Thomas Horn as the editor, the Gilberts? Not good.

Thanks for telling us about Reams

one thing, there are HEALTH TRUTHS out there, see above about the GMOs, and adulterated food, but one thing I have noticed is "Christian" teachers dealing with these realities, bringing in the NEW AGE stuff.

I even believe herbs and other treatments can be useful, but in that world one has to STEP VERY CAREFULLY to avoid the NEW AGE and false teachings.

In fact that is trap they got waiting out there.

Yeah that one quote sounds very pantheistic.

Anonymous said...

Thank you Anon M & Bible Believer for your responses.

I will check out 'God's Ghostbusters'.

As to Dr. Carey Reams:

~ Reams never had a website, so what you have written is not true. Dr. Reams died in the 1980's from lead poisoning - shrapnel received during WWII, that I believe was in his pancreas and couldn't be removed.

~ "God is the basis of life, life is the basis of energy, energy is the basis of matter." ?????? - red flag -(science falsely called)
Please explain how this is a 'red flag'. Do you not realize you live off energy? Do you understand God CREATED our brains as super-computers? If you don't believe this, go on a McDonald's only diet for a month and see how your body and brain functions at the end of 30 days of crap ingested. How does your body CREATE energy? By the 'fuel' you put in it. "We do not live off the food we eat, we live off the energy from the food we eat" - Dr. Reams

~ "Throughout more than 5 decades Reams worked as a consultant, researcher, and lecturer. A significant milestone in Reams' life occurred in 1931. During a period of prayer and fasting Reams received a divine revelation of the biochemistry numbers for humans in perfect health." ????? - red flag - (divine revelation; numbers)
Again, please explain in detail how you have concluded this to be 'red flag'. Are you saying God doesn't speak to people anymore? I'll rephrase how I learned the above quote you posted.
A friend of Dr. Reams, who saw the incredible things Reams was doing in agriculture, had a very sick daughter. He asked Dr. Reams if there was anything he could do to help her. Dr. Reams fasted and prayed for 7 days, and believes God gave him the mathematical equation for perfect health. On that basis, he came up with RBTI, which stands for Reams Biological Theory of Ionization. Notice he kept it as a theory. Reams knew he was not God. He tested the theory, as he did the bible, and in his lifetime, could not disprove either. The equation is what "perfect" health looks like - that being our personal, unique, God-created individually made biochemistry. The practice of RBTI is the changing of our diets, distilled water consumption, and vitamin and mineral supplements (needed because of poor quality, low brix, low mineral containing foods) and even our habits (anger, hatefulness, lack of forgiveness - all affect our physical health).

~ Also from his site:

According to Reams, "Ionization is God's laws putting things together and taking them apart ion by ion." Dave Larson, a student of Reams and Skow, put it this way; "Biological Ionization is the study of how energy becomes matter and how matter becomes energy on a continuous basis." According to Reams, RBTI offers a way to measure the energy in elements, compounds, and biological systems including humans." ???? - red flag - (energy doesn't become matter - this is evolution and the basis of "quantum physics/spirituality"...
It sounds like you are dismissing this because you do not comprehend the information. Energy DOES become matter. We are not made up of little pieces of broccoli, hamburger, ice cream and green beans. We are made/built/created from the energy our bodies ill from those things. And even more shocking, that is only 20% of our matter. 80% of our matter, and that of all plants and animals comes from the minerals (colloids) we breathe in from the air.
Please don't rush to judgement on something you are ignorant about, and try to steer others away (deliberately or not). You haven't studied this, yet you label this false. That's not right to do.

Anonymous said...

~ One does not need prayer to "discern" the truth about this man, in spite of how they commend "his faith" to see that this ideology is "anti-Christ". One need only "see" what they are is not scriptural.
SHOW US how this is not scriptural. NOT your opinion, but in the Holy Bible, where what Dr. Reams says, is AGAINST scripture.
Both of you - and anyone reading this - please do not judge on a collectivist basis. We will all stand - no, kneel - before the thrown of God's judgement - on our own.
I do not know of this Dave Larson you spoke of as a student of Reams. I will research him and follow-up. I do know of Dan Skow. He did know Dr. Reams in person, and was one of his best students according to Reams quotes I've read. But I also know Skow's health is poor, because he has chosen to not do what he know's his body needs for health. This is very sad. It takes discipline to be healthy and holy. God does not force, but offers us FREE WILL.
Please invest $15 and get yourself a copy of Dr. Reams book 'Choose Life or Death'. Don't find one or two websites that talk for him or about him. Please read his words for yourself. (go to Pike Ag Lab for best price on the book).
I'm going to reiterate what I just said in regards to SDA's ( Seventh Day Adventists). Please do not judge ANYONE on a collectivist' basis. I am not a part of any human church right now. I am on a quest for truth - all truth. The Jesuits have infiltrated ALL aspects of government, business, entertainment and religion. This would most certainly include the SDA church.
Bible Believer - I checked out your link on SDA, and I believe their is corruption in that church body. But give me specifics!
~ Is Ellen White a 'false-prophetess' and show me with scripture that she is. I have not read all her writings, and don't know if I'll have time to in this short life. But of what I've seen from the criticisms, I have yet to see anyone point out scripturally how she was a 'false prophet'.
~ Are you saying Dr. Reams was "pantheistic"?
Please show us how you came to that conclusion. Did he say God is soil, the chair, the sun, the car? Absolutely not! He ALWAYS gave God the glory, and praised HIM for His incredible creation. Please listen to the man, and learn what the man said before casting stones. You've just practiced the opposite of critical thinking here. One guy (me) says check out this guy Dr. Reams, and another guy (Anon M) goes to a sight and finds a couple things that he knows nothing about, and labels it 'false teachings'.
PLEASE don't believe either of us! Go research for yourselves!

Anonymous said...

"Listen to everyone, read everything, but don't believe anything until you can prove it for yourself." ~ (the late) William "Bill" Cooper
I can tell you I have tested the equation for perfect health, and found it to be true. Where I once had slugs and bugs all over vegetables, I have tested soil, amended it according to Reams research of proper mineral and nutrient balancing, followed the feeding programs, and now have produce that the bugs walk around but don't eat, food that tastes better and has more nutrition (based on the Brix readings with a refractometer), and stores much longer, and if the brix is high enough, the food won't rot. It will dehydrate but not rot.
But don't take my word for it. Test it yourself.
~ "I do not think the specific sabbath day matters, we are no longer held to OT, and Bible says do not judge as to sabbath. There I think saturday is the more accurate day but there can be some liberty about it. {obviously I went to church on Sunday when I was in an IFB}"
How did you come to "think" that God's 4th commandment doesn't still stand as one of His 10 commandments? Do you know the Catholic church takes credit for changing the sabbath from Saturday to Sun-day? Research it. It comes from their mouths. "All the world will follow after the beast".
You've been deceived, like me and everyone else.
Here's what I would give to people truly seeking God and truth to research:
~ Mark Woodman - God's Final Call ( & some on YouTube). It's probably 20-30 hour bible study/lecture. What a blessing it's been for me.
~ Know Your Enemy - The Fuel Project (free on YouTube)
~ The US is still a british colony, and the story we've been fed regarding our founding fathers, the constitution, and most everything we thought we knew, is a lie.
Search: Vyzygoth, the informer, James Montgomery (YouTube has a lot, but look for the writings of the informer and James Montgomery online)

To wrap this up, I believe there are many "cures" for cancer and disease out there.
~ Gerson Therapy
~ Dr. Lorraine Day
~ The Hallaluh (sp?) Diet
But they focus on flooding the body with essential vitamins and minerals. RBTI is the only process which basis ones' NEEDS on their personal, God created biochemistry. No diagnoses (which is just an educated guess BTW), one tests their numbers (pH, salts, sugars, Nitrates, etc.), and eats according to what will move their chemistry toward "perfect". No magic or hocus pocus, no prescription drugs - nutrition.
For me in regards to Russ Dizdar, the verdict is still out. NO ONE wants to touch SRA, and he is sharing truth to those who are in it - a missionary to the satanists you might say. I have not seen anything concrete to label him a false teacher. I will write him, and be certain from my end, that he is informed regarding the papacy/jesuit control on this earth, and that there is people he promotes (Stan Monteith) who do not share the whole truth.
God bless and keep your eyes on the prize.

Bible Believer said...

1. The energy quote.

source here...

""God is the basis of life, life is the basis of energy, energy is the basis of matter."

God is NOT energy or a basis of energy...

God created energy itself.

The Bible warns of the 'god of forces"

I was long enough in the New Age/Theosophy, UU to know this is how 'god" was defined in all those circles and others. .
Yes food makes energy, but energy also is a CREATION...

not to be worshipped as "God"

I am familiar even with things like Rekki where they believe they can manipulate 'energies".

One thing I am quite familiar with the holistic health world, some things are GOOD in it, like use of herbs and nutrition but there is a lot of false stuff too like this "energy stuff"

"Are you saying God doesn't speak to people anymore?"

In prayer individually yes, but "new revelations". we are warned about those who will ADD to the book of Revelation.

Rev 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

There are many false religions based on

This " Reams Biological Theory of Ionization" to me is even suspect on the secular scientific method level. NOt that all science is perfect.

What is an ion but essentially another name for an ATOM? [except in the ions case there is a specific charge.

Basically he is making the claim, he can manipulate matter...that's what all it comes down to.

By the way regular medicine by the numbers is an imperfect system.
Distilled water is actually bad for a person.

Why? I tried it.

It is flat and lacks mineral components.

We need more minerals especially in this society. I actually drink mineral water as needed for health. Even that has to be balanced lest one gets too much potassium and magnesium.

He may be correct about some things, mineral defiencies, etc.

This sentence basically is sort of meaningless...

, "Ionization is God's laws putting things together and taking them apart ion by ion."

Lets replace what an ion is.

We could rephrase it "Atoms with negative and postive charges or lack a charge is God's law putting things together and taking them apart "atom" by "atom"

What does that really mean?

Break all this stuff down.

I knew someone who died an athiest who always said something along the lines only atoms are provable all else is illusion.

It looks to me like a "Christian form" of New Age "energy" healing. When I was in the occult UU and dabbling in paganism we would seek after the "energies" for healing. This is what witches do as well, taping into Alpha states to energize themselves, heal and ue these things for spells.

I have fully admitted my past in the occult UU and Theosophy on my blog.

I WENT to "energy healers". I know what is taught, and how they do it. Even accupuncture is based on the entire precipt. Yes, I experienced that as well.

This guy [who is now deceased] looking at websites describing him is selling the same teachings the New Age healers sold, except with a Christian veneer.

So I have studied this sort of thing...

Found this article

One thing, teachers like this can tell some truths..

our food has been adulterated

the nutrition in it IS lower--there are scientific studies saying so.

the chemicals they are adding to food are doing damage etc.

But to forward all this "energy" stuff, nah I recognize that from before you see.

Bible Believer said...

Here is scriptures I would use to warn against false holistic healing methods that focus on energies.

Daniel 11:38-39 (KJV)
38 But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things.

39 Thus shall he do in the most strong(s) holds with a strange god, whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory: and he shall cause them to rule over many, and shall divide the land for gain.

more here:
I agree God will deal with us all individually.

I do not know anything about Dan Skow.

Bob Larson, I consider a false teacher.{did I write Dave Larson? or someone else.

One thing out there, there are many false teachings that promise people they can be totally healed and not die. God can does heal if a Christian prays for it, but people do get sick in this world and people do die. God calls some home too. Some of the extreme cults even claim that one will not have to die. By the way I am familiar with Hallelujah Acres too. I wrote about them in the article show here.

They tell people you can have perfect health, you can live for a long long time. I do think people can seek after healing and I have had God give ME more years of life. But this idea that one can obtain perfect "health" on this earth is a misnomer, we have to wait for our glorified bodies in heaven.
Sure Ill read his book, this may be interesting.

I am glad you are looking for truth. Seriously be careful out there. There are many subtle false teachings. Always test yourself and ask God what is true.
One thing I have noticed about SDA in general, is the quest for perfect health has led them into many false things. They are vegetarian, and while some of the health advice is good, this can lead to other false things.

So you admit SDA has gone corrupt?

Ellen White is a false prophetess. I "have" read some of her books including the Great Controversy. Scripturally she failed teaching soul sleep, she also was involved with false prophecies and if I remember was part of "The Great Disappointment"

I agree everyone should research things for themselves.

I do not even agree with the concept of a "vital force" in humans.

Its the same thing in accupuncture and with "energy healers" no different to me.

Bible Believer said...

I totally agree about proving something and testing it. Have written on this blog, do so with everything I write as well.

Sure I do not doubt there is some helpful truths such as in how you fixed your garden.

Hey I have written Sat is more accurate day for a sabbath.

I am not against anyone keeping a sabbath.

Col 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath [days]:

Remember I am not in any church now.

Did you leave SDA? I have heard of some leaving but still adhering to SDA beliefs.
Agree with you about America as British Colony--City of London, enough said there.
We agree about that there are cures for cancer not being utilized. I question the whole chemo radiation mill.

Russ Dizdar, All I can say is be careful.

There is a lot of disinformation out there with SRA, probably a lot of controllers and others who do not want their charges to get freedom in Jesus Christ.

I had to hear some of his odd teachings for myself to depart from him as a valid teacher.

God bless you too, just try and think about what I have shared here, in testing things. Everyone desires good health, but I know the holistic medicine world can be dangerous, even if there are some scattered truths. I fear now they are purposefully deceiving Christians not through it.

Bible Believer said...

correction above..."NOW through it"

Anonymous said...


1. Pertaining to a dogma, or to settled opinion.
2. Positive; magisterial; asserting or disposed to assert with authority or with overbearing and arrogance; applied to persons; as a dogmatic schoolman or philosopher.
3. Positive; asserted with authority; authoritative; as a dogmatical opinion.
4. Arrogant; overbearing in asserting and maintaining opinions.


IG'NORANT, a. [L. ignorans.] Destitute of knowledge; uninstructed or uninformed; untaught; unenlightened. A man may be ignorant of the law, or of any art or science. He may be ignorant of his own rights, or of the rights of others.

1. Unknown; undiscovered; a poetical use; as ignorant concealment.
2. Unacquainted with.
Ignorant of guilt, I fear not shame.
3. Unskillfully made or done. [Not legitimate.]
Poor ignorant baubles.
IG'NORANT, n. A person untaught or uninformed; one unlettered or unskilled.


1. An affirmation to the contrary; an assertion that a declaration or fact stated is not true; negation; contradiction. It is often expressed by no or not, simply.
2. Refusal to grant; the negation of a request or petition; the contrary to grant, allowance or concession; as, his request or application met with a direct denial.
3. A rejection, or refusing to acknowledge; a disowning; as a denial of God: or a refusing to receive or embrace; as a denial of the faith or the truth.
4. A denial of ones self, is a declining of some gratification; restraint of ones appetites or propensities.

PREJ'UDICE, n. [L. prejudicium; proe and judico.]

1. Prejudgment; an opinion or decision of mind, formed without due examination of the facts or arguments which are necessary to a just and impartial determination. It is used in a good or bad sense. Innumerable are the prejudices of education; we are accustomed to believe what we are taught, and to receive opinions from others without examining the grounds by which they can be supported. A man has strong prejudices in favor of his country or his party, or the church in which he has been educated; and often our prejudices are unreasonable. A judge should disabuse himself of prejudice in favor of either party in a suit.
My comfort is that their manifest prejudice to my cause will render their judgment of less authority.
2. A previous bent or bias of mind for or against any person or thing; prepossession.
There is an unaccountable prejudice to projectors of all kinds.
3. Mischief; hurt; damage; injury. Violent factions are a prejudice to the authority of the sovereign.
How plain this abuse is, and what prejudice it does to the understanding of the sacred Scriptures.
[This is a sense of the word too well established to be condemned.]

PREJ'UDICE, v.t. To prepossess with unexamined opinions, or opinions formed without due knowledge of the facts and circumstances attending the question; to bias the mind by hasty and incorrect notions, and give it an unreasonable bent to one side or other of a cause.

Suffer not any beloved study to prejudice your mind so far as to despise all other learning.
1. To obstruct or injure by prejudices, or an undue previous bias of the mind; or to hurt; to damage; to diminish; to impair; in a very general sense. The advocate who attempts to prove too much, may prejudice his cause.

Anonymous said...

FAITH, n. [L. fides, fido, to trust; Gr. to persuade, to draw towards any thing, to conciliate; to believe, to obey. In the Greek Lexicon of Hederic it is said, the primitive signification of the verb is to bind and draw or lead, as signifies a rope or cable. But this remark is a little incorrect. The sense of the verb, from which that of rope and binding is derived, is to strain, to draw, and thus to bind or make fast. A rope or cable is that which makes fast. Heb.]

1. Belief; the assent of the mind to the truth of what is declared by another, resting on his authority and veracity, without other evidence; the judgment that what another states or testifies is the truth. I have strong faith or no faith in the testimony of a witness, or in what a historian narrates.
2. The assent of the mind to the truth of a proposition advanced by another; belief, or probable evidence of any kind.
3. In theology, the assent of the mind or understanding to the truth of what God has revealed. Simple belief of the scriptures, of the being and perfections of God, and of the existence, character and doctrines of Christ, founded on the testimony of the sacred writers, is called historical or speculative faith; a faith little distinguished from the belief of the existence and achievements of Alexander or of Cesar.
4. Evangelical, justifying, or saving faith, is the assent of the mind to the truth of divine revelation, on the authority of God's testimony, accompanied with a cordial assent of the will or approbation of the heart; an entire confidence or trust in God's character and declarations, and in the character and doctrines of Christ, with an unreserved surrender of the will to his guidance, and dependence on his merits for salvation. In other words, that firm belief of God's testimony, and of the truth of the gospel, which influences the will, and leads to an entire reliance on Christ for salvation.
Being justified by faith. Rom. 5.
Without faith it is impossible to please God. Heb. 11.
For we walk by faith, and not by sight. 2Cor. 5.
With the heart man believeth to righteousness. Rom. 10.
The faith of the gospel is that emotion of the mind, which is called trust or confidence, exercised towards the moral character of God, and particularly of the Savior.
Faith is an affectionate practical confidence in the testimony of God.
Faith is an affectionate practical confidence in the testimony of God.
Faith is a firm, cordial belief in the veracity of God, in all the declarations of his word; or a full and affectionate confidence in the certainty of those things which God has declared, and because he has declared them.
5. The object of belief; a doctrine or system of doctrines believed; a system of revealed truths received by christians.
They heard only, that he who persecuted us in times past, now preacheth the faith which once he destroyed. Gal. 1.
6. The promises of God, or his truth and faithfulness.
shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect? Rom. 3.
7. An open profession of gospel truth.
Your faith is spoken of throughout the whole world. Rom. 1.
8. A persuasion or belief of the lawfulness of things indifferent.
Hast thou faith? Have it to thyself before God. Rom 14.
9. Faithfulness; fidelity; a strict adherence to duty and fulfillment of promises.
Her failing, while her faith to me remains, I would conceal.
Children in whom is no faith. Deut. 32.
10. Word or honor pledged; promise given; fidelity. He violated his plighted faith.
For you alone I broke my faith with injured Palamon.
11. Sincerity; honesty; veracity; faithfulness. We ought in good faith, to fulfill all our engagements.
12. Credibility or truth. Unusual.]
The faith of the foregoing narrative.

Anonymous said...



1. Conformity to fact or reality; exact accordance with that which is, or has been, or shall be. The truth of history constitutes its whole value. We rely on the truth of the scriptural prophecies.
My mouth shall speak truth. Prov.8.
Sanctify them through thy truth; thy word is truth. John. 17.
2. True state of facts or things. The duty of a court of justice is to discover the truth. Witnesses are sworn to declare the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.
3. Conformity of words to thoughts, which is called moral truth.
Shall truth fail to keep her word?
4. Veracity; purity from falsehood; practice of speaking truth; habitual disposition to speak truth; as when we say, a man is a man of truth.
5. Correct opinion.
6. Fidelity; constancy.
The thoughts of past pleasure and truth.
7. Honesty; virtue.
It must appear
That malice bears down truth.
8. Exactness; conformity to rule.
Plows, to go true, depend much on the truth of the iron work. [Not in use.]
9. Real fact of just principle; real state of things. There are innumerable truths with which we are not acquainted.
10. Sincerity.

God is a spirit, and they that worship him must worship in spirit and in truth. John 4.
11. The truth of God, is his veracity and faithfulness. Ps.71.

Or his revealed will.
I have walked in thy truth. Ps.26.
12. Jesus Christ is called the truth. John 14.

13. It is sometimes used by way of concession.

She said, truth, Lord; yet the dogs eat of the crums-- Matt 15.
That is, it is a truth; what you have said, I admit to be true.
In truth, in reality; in fact.
Of a truth, in reality; certainly.
To do truth, is to practice what God commands. John 3.

Anonymouse M said...


WOW - that's not even a discussion.
If there's a point, I wish it were simply and plainly stated in an understanding way.


Bible Believer said...

Oops I thought I didn't approve those dictionary definitions... and had moved them to spam.

I asked Yeah WHAT IS THE POINT too?

Anonymous said...

Bible Believer & Anon M,

Bible Believer - your post previous to the last one, left me speechless. I'm not engaging in this conversation to express or exhibit any superiority, nor to pick a fight, or match wits. I am on a search for truth - all truth - and stumbled here upon this blog, researching Russ Dizdar.
I'm here on earth to learn and teach. The word definition lesson was as much for me, as it was for you. These are some of the words that came to mind as I read your post. I'd recommend you both study up.
At this point, I find both of you to be "red Flags'.
You are both liars:
BB - your quote:
"I totally agree about proving something and testing it. Have written on this blog, do so with everything I write as well."
You have not tested RBTI, and I guarantee you can not provide evidence to support your claim of any similarity between RBTI and Rekki. You clearly show here that you do not thoroughly research.

Anon M - You claimed you obtained information from Dr. Ream's website, yet he's been dead since the 80's and never, to my knowledge, had a website.
You have also avoided my questions, which if answered honestly, would show you state your feelings and opinions as facts - a critical thinking 'no-no'.

In trying to further and clarify the "discussion", I asked both of you clarifying questions. Anon M completely ignored and refused to answer my questions, and BB made some attempts, but there was no concrete, direct answers given.

Odds are good, that there will be more then the 3 of us reading this conversation at some point. I know there are others out there, like me, who are trying to wade and cut through the BS to really find the truth, and they are my inspiration to continue this conversation. My hope and prayer is that the truths I have shared here - my truths - will assist them in there quest. I wish I knew at 16 years old, what I know now. I wonder how my decisions would have differed with having knowledge of truth that I felt, but didn't comprehend.
If either of you desires to answer my questions previously posted, I'll continue the conversation. But at this point, I find your logic, reasoning and researching abilities to be quite lacking.
And worse, to acknowledge your comprehension of Saturday being the true God given sabbath, yet arrogantly and rebelliously pulling some verse out of context to justify yourself and your feelings. Who cares about yours or my feelings? How does God feel about the sabbath? If you're saying a NT verse shows us that one of God's ten commandments is now null and void, and we only need to obey nine commandments (eight it would be, if we follow the Catholic version of the 10 commandments), your saying that God contradicts himself, Bible Believer, and than the bible really has no authority.
Check yourself.

Bible Believer said...

Where did I say I am against anyone keeping a sabbath if they do so?

It seems to me you have been caught up in the law a bit.

I consider sabbath-keeping a "shadow" no longer required.

Someone can do so if they choose to....but it is not a requirement.

Plenty of false churches telling people if they do not sabbath-keep that they are going to hell.

But what of THIS VERSE?

Colossians 2

16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:

17 Which are a SHADOW of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

With RBTI, I just told you my opinion. I am wary of any preacher that claims to have a special 'technique" or "process" that promises perfect or near perfect health. There are a lot of charlatans out there who use health in a variety of cults to sell false things.

Given what I have exposed here, why should I believe RBTI, is real?

The Reams quote is actually in several places online, are you claiming it is false? Why?

Anonymous said...

i'll gladly answer your questions after you first answer mine.

Aaron Smith said...

Its very telling that all these comments as well as the site owner are all Anonymous,
Its one thing to expose the deeds of darkness but you guys are just judging and putting Godly men of Christ down, spend time building people up in the Lord, not bringing people down. you may not agree with everyone, but these guys all agree Jesus is the ONLY way. That makes them of God. They are not wolves, but i wonder if this site is? No doubt, my comment wont even been submited...

Bible Believer said...

Truely Godly men, do not advance false teachings or Roman Catholic prophecies. They warn about them. Of course they will tell you they believe Jesus is the only way, they are intent on appearing as Christians will introducing deceptions. You think everyone is a Christian is really one? That is hopelessly naive.

Bruce Says Ska said...

I disagree ..Obviously you haven't heard the hours of MP3s talking of His Grace, Love, etc etc...
How can you Judge because you yourselves are fearing what God is exposing?
Don't fear anything of this because we have a savior who is bigger than any thing the world and the devil can throw at us!
Yes we should ALWAYS focus on Him and delve into His word!!! ..but to put our head in the sand and not look at what the enemy is doing and to have no answers for those who ask these, relevant to our time, questions...that is fear my brothers and sisters!
May I add..why are there no blogs disagreeing with what you are saying on this forum??...seems like a censored forum!hmmm!
Anyway I am not here for argument but I disagree with your judgement of character ...Russ always brings it back to our Risen Savior.

Bruce Says Ska said...

Agree Aaron Smith..well said...I was wondering if my post will be submitted..For a forum it seems one sided!
Build one another up!
We are called not to fear and it seems some folk feel putting your head in the sand on topics relevant to this age is the best. What are we to say to souls seeking the answers that God is revealing?..
What about the HOURS OF MP3s talking of His Grace, Love etc etc...No it isn't all doom and gloom ..there is the message of Gods Power, Salvation, Mercy..

..but dark days we are in, we cant stand by as Christians like children with our hands over our eyes!!
Let's delve into His word, His presence put on the armor of God and STAND FIRM ..

Anonymous said...

you are reading things into their writings that ARE NOT There! Horn tells about how evil the Catholic church is and how it is teaching FALSE doctrines! Someone said they do not think SRA exists! Really??? YOU are the ones being deceived! It DOES exist! Satan is REAL and those who do his bidding do wicked and evil things! Yes..we MUSt proclaim the remedy..which is Jesus Christ, but we also MUST be aware of how the devil works and deceives and to warn others who are being led that way! sticking your heads in the ground is ignorance! Jesus KNEW the demons existed..and he told us how to handle them! That is what russ dizdar teaches! i was at a conference where he was a speaker. I saw him call down a man who was definitely in opposition to Christ! A woman was praising God and he asked that Russ shut her up! Russ looked at the man and said.. If you think I will ask someone to stop praising are mistaken! That is exactly what he should have said! to STOP someone praising God..would be quenching the Holy Spirit! Wake up.. people all over the world are seeing ufo's in the sky..and many are believing in THEM to be the saviours! do you NOT hear and see this??? but blind people do not! THEY are demons..coming to decieve! THIS is what HOrn, missler and many others are warning about..the great deception coming where people will believe the lie of satan! I read my Bible, and it is FULL of the last days events... You had better wake up and realize there is truth in what they say! and they DO..hear me DO use the scriptures to back what they say! maybe you should concentrate your attacks on apostate preachers like Rick warren, and Osteen..instead of those who do preach the gospel and warn people of what is coming! we need to know who our enemy is and how to stand with our full armor on! Remember HITLER..who gassed 6 million Jews as well as millions of Christians???? do not be fooled to think that we don't have men just as wicked now... the beast will be WORSE than Hitler could ever dreamed of being! Stop attacking the messengers... and get ready for battle ahead! Jesus tells US to put on the armor!!

Bible Believer said...

1. So what if Horn warns how evil the RCC is? He introduces new deceptions. Even Jehovah Witnesses-- a false religion say that Rome is evil. Many controlled opposition types and false prophets do so and then bring in new lies.

2. I believe SRA exists and so does mind control. I also know that some people are crafty enough to perhaps have gatekeepers that would try and muddy the waters regarding SRA or close the gate on those trying to be free in Jesus Christ.

3. Ever heard the term controlled opposition?

4. I have warned about ufos, aliens on this blog. aliens are demons, there of course is also project blue beam which will be utilized.

5. The evil associations of Missler have been exposed on this blog and many others. What is your excuse for Missler being connected to Swansat which has a high level Vatican official on it's board?

I don't agree with this blog on everything, he believes in the rapture but lays out the Missler facts.

Anonymous said...

I see now that this whole internet crap is ONE MAJOR DECEPTION!Thank you for directing me back to my Bible as I should have done so long ago!You are right about false teachers and they are EVERYWHERE!May Yeshua bless your every works and THANKS AGAIN!