Lately in mainstream church circles, I have heard this talk, they all think its the second reformation. Do not confuse the way I am using the term as some refer to a "second reformation" historically, these are preachers and others claiming the church is going through a "revival" as it were or another reformation. The other day, I heard a female Lutheran minister refer to the 'second reformation". I told her that the churches had fallen away, I am not sure she was happy with me. Does it astound you that in the evangelical and mainline world even, remember that quote I put up by Phoenix Preacher they see things as changing FOR THE BETTER?
Has anyone else heard that term?
Well we heard it before from Rick Warren:
"I’m looking for a second reformation. The first reformation of the church 500 years ago was about beliefs. This one is going to be about behavior. The first one was about creeds. This one is going to be about deeds. It is not going to be about what does the church believe, but about what is the church doing."
He repeated this message other places.
“‘The first Reformation was about belief; this one’s going to be about behavior,’ said Warren, pastor of Saddleback Church in Southern California and author of the best-selling The Purpose-Driven Life. ‘The first one was about creeds; this one’s going to be about our deeds. The first one divided the church; this time it will unify the church.’” (Bold added)3
It's occurred other places:
Anglican conservatives say ‘second reformation’ is already under way
Be Part of the Second Reformation!
A Second Reformation
Second Reformation and Safe Places
Missions Congress Called to Work for a Second Reformation.
A new Reformation? Emerging theology is shaking Christianity,
"Nearly 500 years ago Martin Luther posted his 95 theses in Wittenberg, Germany — a move that set off a shakeup in the Christian Church that became known as the Protestant Reformation.
Now there’s another movement brewing that could change Christianity just as dramatically, says a local pastor whose denomination takes its name from Luther.
“It’s 8.8 on the Richter scale,” says Pastor Paul Nuechterlein, of Prince of Peace Lutheran Church in Portage. “If the last huge change in Christianity was at the time of the Reformation, it looks like we’re going through that kind of change again.”
If you’re a biblical scholar, this change probably isn’t news to you — “I think it’s been under way for 50 to 100 years,” says Nuechterlein — but if you’re a Christian sitting in a pew of your local church, it might be."
False preacher John Crowder in 2010, claimed there is a reformation going on:
Notice how he refers to the first reformation as being about "rebellion", lots of double-talk there.
Actually just about every godly move of the first Reformation has been ransacked, sola scripture, sola fide, etc. This isn't to say every leader of the Reformation was true as today we have the daughters, but one way I believe God used the [first] Reformation was to get His Word out there to people. I am not surprised to see the Emergents and mainlines jumping on the "second reformation" bandwagon.
Think about this, the Bible warns us of the great falling away. Christians see how the churches have fallen away and now the leaders are preaching, that the church is in a "new reformation". It is odd how this is one leading back to Rome when the first was about separating from the idolatry of Rome. Such concepts of "the counter-reformation" do not occur to these folks. But many of them do see the "changes" as being from God when we know otherwise.