Monday, March 19, 2012

The Dominionist's Love for War and Authoritarianism







Jam 4:1 From whence [come] wars and fightings among you? [come they] not hence, [even] of your lusts that war in your members?


Jam 4:2 Ye lust, and have not: ye kill, and desire to have, and cannot obtain: ye fight and war, yet ye have not, because ye ask not.

War comes from human sin, fighting and killing, and it just seems to be getting worse year by year as the number of wars shoot up and the world seems to be going even crazier. Even the two world wars where millions died have not taught most a lesson, my own now deceased in-laws saw the dead bodies stacked up as one said "like cordwood" as children in Europe but now looking upon the landscape and seeing many bad things being set up, I've had to turn to God for my own peace of mind and solace more then ever before. For those who can "see", we are in perilous times like never before. Just reading what is going on out there, we see what is being set up. Why was an order like this for instance necessary?  "Martial Law Obama Issues Executive Order ‘National Defense Resources Preparedness’ I don't trust Alex Jones, but the article goes to a direct website that makes it clear the facts are true.

We have been hearing the drums beating for war in Iran, and they have the majority of evangelicals and "Christians" all lined up behind it. Even as freedoms are stripped away in our country, and our country named a "battlefield" and Americans can be rounded up now according to NDAA, very few are waking up. It seems that those who actually cared about American as a country would realize that we need to take care of our economy now and not get embroiled in even more wars.

Did you know this is one thing, support for a war in Iran, is something all the Republican candidates, except for Ron Paul, hold in common? Santorum does and so does Romney and Gingrich.

Christian Zionism has fulfilled it's New World Order deception in getting the Christian world to sign on. What is forgotten is that it won't be just Muslims who suffer when the Middle East is turned into a giant fireball, but everyone else including the Israelis and the Jews. As I have said to other people trying to explain the knotted ball of Middle Eastern politics, many of our own leaders have betrayed the interests of the American people, they do not care that our economy has been stripped down as they war-monger across the globe.How many day to day Americans want to see more war? So why take for granted that those who are running Israel are working in their best interests too? When Calvary Chapel has Netanyahu in it's pulpits and this guy keeps crying for war with Iran, doesn't he care about the hell on earth that could be unleashed even on his own people?

Even here memories are short as we went to war with Iraq over the 'weapons of mass destruction" issue before, and none were ever found. The same EXACT formula is being followed this time, except this time, the repercussions may be even far more dire.

Many Christians who can discern the difference between good and evil, question the the elite's love for war.

This is a forgotten verse in today's religious right.


 Mat 5:9    Blessed [are] the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.

I am not a pacifist and I understand a nation's right to defend itself including Israel's, and our own, even our own politicians and military have a job to do for defense, but how many preachers on the religious right do you see calling for peace or questioning the endless wars for the new world order? When one's country is at war with several countries, like a "1984" saga of endless war with "Oceania", and everywhere else, one starts wondering is it really is about defense anymore? Maybe the American lack of the experience of war, no war on our soil since the Civil War has left many immune and ignorant of it's realities except for our veterans who have served. Sadly too many are not asking these questions as they have been deceived by the Global war on Terror, and while there are jihadists out there, definitely other agendas are taking place when your country is involved in wars, that offer no gain, to the people financing them and they seem to be never ending.

Should a Christian preacher salivate over the concept of the landscape being covered in mushroom clouds and millions dying? Don't they think of the children who will die, or the ordinary women and men? What kind of people think war is a GOOD THING? Now with Obama, the anti-war movement which was controlled and 'owned' as well on the left is even essentially deader then a doornail. Heard anything lately from Cindy Sheenan as Obama sends troops to Africa and earlier on Libya?

Many of the false preachers out there, basically are war-mongers for the Knights of Malta agenda and peacemaking isn't even on their radar. Even as this nation goes into economic freefall, despite what the news is saying, and sees two Middle Eastern wars that led to endless lives lost and no gain, the politicians and preachers call for even more war.






Let's look at the list...all of them want war with Iran!

John Hagee--has called for war with Iran



John Hagee and Benny Hinn [a would be Knights of Templar?] PRAY FOR WAR!



Here is an example of Calvary Chapel propaganda for war [interesting handsign being flashed acouple times on this one, I do not think that is by accident]



Tim Lahaye calls Iran part of the "axis of evil"

Apocalypse keeps the Bible conference business humming.

Rick Warren has spoken of support for war with Iran:



Notice how Warren seems to imply that government works always on behalf of good...
Sean Hannity insisted that United States needs to "take out" Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Warren said he agreed. Hannity asked, "Am I advocating something dark, evil or something righteous?" Warren responded, "Well, actually, the Bible says that evil cannot be negotiated with. It has to just be stopped.... In fact, that is the legitimate role of government. The Bible says that God puts government on earth to punish evildoers. Not good-doers. Evildoers."






Warren was referring to Romans 13. Of course that is the most misinterpreted verse in the Bible.

And of course Chuck Missler has advanced the Christian Zionist, war on with Iran meme, along with the false Rapture teachings.



These are just some of the names, I probably could add far more to the list, including SBC leaders, Assembly of God, and several church denominations. There are many other teachers who are involved in the bible teaching and conferences business from Joel Rosenberg and far more, who beat the "FIGHT ISLAM" crusaders drumbeat to the Christians and who have advanced the idea of war with Iran, and other NWO wars.


Someone needs to tell Joel Rosenberg, no true Christian would 'battle' to dominate anywhere in the world....



Remember the Plan for New American Century that I have mentioned before long ago? Cheney's outfit that planned Pax Americana where they planned which countries we would go to war with? All countries they want to bring into the one world order. I knew they would be going to war with these others countries, finding the document Redefining American Defenses years ago online. These plans are not kept secret. Check out the book, The Pentagon's New Map if you want to learn more. Well Iran was on the list long ago. The above link is from 2003. By the way if you want to read Redefining American Defenses, it is still on the PNAC website, you can google it. Even years ago, many knew Iran was already on the list: Here is an article from 2005:

Iran: Next Target of US Military Aggression


Iran was long ago on the list!:



When it comes to the religious preachers and teachers, do any of them ever sit back, and think about what war really is about? It is about death, and destruction. Everything collapses, even if you avoid being bombed, or instant death, there is plenty of death via disease and destruction of the infrastructure and lack of access to food. In the Middle East, hundreds of thousands of civilians already have died including children and I do not have room here to write about the effects of the depleted uranium. Even if war happened in the Bible, and there were wars where people defended themselves as a fact of life, whatever happened to being peacemakers? Why do some seem intent on hoping that the Middle East is turned into a parking lot of glass? As far as bible prophecy goes, where does it say in the Bible, you are to try and make it happen? You think any of these guys care about what happens to Americans either? About our economic ruin or what could come as a result of this? No they are committed to another wicked cause. With the knowing deceivers, they know what they are doing.

I never liked the song "Onward Christian Soldiers", in fact that song bothers me. While I know scripture speaks of the armour of God in Ephesians 6, for me, too many took this song literally, of course Ephesians 6 reminds us "we wrestle not against flesh and blood".

Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war,
With the cross of Jesus going on before.




While Christians should stand up for Jesus Christ, one wonders about the use of war imagery and more when it comes to the Christian faith. How much is it carnal and about creating the agendas of wicked powers that be? Why do Christian evangelicals use Catholic inspired crusader imagery, that one alone should make you nauseous! Google "Christian crusaders", some even use that exact term. We are basically sending our soldiers on new crusades now to the Middle East.

Lately I have been pondering how so many have been mislead thinking it is the Christian's job to "fight the Muslims" or here in America, to "fight the liberals, non-believers, homosexuals, name a category of non-believer here. When I witness to people while I call evil what it is, it is God's job to change people. How many now "hate" enemies and now call it "Christian"? "Imprison them", "fine them", "destroy them", "beat them down", "blow them up", seems to be the cries out there, and it is the voice of Satan in a fallen world. The "culture warriors" we are being bombarded with seem to think force, and law are going to force everyone to be good. Such types seem to love the police state too. And most of the times these so called "culture warriors" seem to be in love with war and authoritarianism at the behest of their false leaders. We are living in a world where the "Christian" church is focused on fighting "enemies" via the culture wars and even the political wars of man, not via preaching the gospel. I know I have discussed this issue many times.

Luke 9:51And it came to pass, when the time was come that he should be received up, he stedfastly set his face to go to Jerusalem, 
52And sent messengers before his face: and they went, and entered into a village of the Samaritans, to make ready for him. 
53And they did not receive him, because his face was as though he would go to Jerusalem. 
54And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did? 
55But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.
56For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them. And they went to another village.

Think about that verse and what most of Christiandom has become about. Even with the Muslims while there are some extremists who are jihadists, and nations and people have the right to defend themselves, what has been accomplished but to make the world more dangerous?

And someone tell me why it is ok to "CALL DOWN FIRE" on the Muslims where so called Christians seem to want to send them missiles more then the gospel?  And why does anyone think this is going to HELP the JEWISH PEOPLE OUT?  As I have said before, they are being betrayed too, just like the American people.

It is interesting to me how so many evangelical and Christian websites go on and on about Sharia law and the evils of Islam, which are a concern but ignore what is happening right here, with laws like the NDAA. As the fascist state is assembled here at home, whether the NWO plans to have us end up with a "liberal" or "conservative" flavor of one, whoever wins the election of 2012, it doesn't matter, both parties have converged to kill freedom, and these so called Christians cheer for that as well. I do not agree with everything on this list, [I would replace nationalism with GLOBALISM] but it does say a lot of what is happening now doesn't it?


Now as I watch the majority of Christians signing up to vote for one of the Knights of Malta, NWO connected presidential candidates, most support MORE War and MORE OPPRESSION for even their own countrymen. If someone is poor, they cry for more punishment. If someone fits an 'undesirable" category, they cry for more punishment. It is like insanity has taken over this country. The "Imperial Christians" of today have thrown away God's commandments:

Matt 5:4 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

I think about that verse and asked "What happened"?

War mongering doesn't go with that commandment!

Dominionism is about power and control. Even here the non-believing world looks out at the insanity that has taken over the Christian world, and see the "Christians" as desiring WWIII and seriously who can argue with that with the examples before us?

But millions of Americans believe that Christ will not come again until Israel wipes out its competitors and there is widespread war in the Middle East. Some of these folks want to start a huge fire of war and death and destruction, so that Jesus comes quickly.


Hey I entitled one article even on this blog, "I can't wait for Armageddon!"

Chris Hedges, one non-Christian secular academic, calls out Dominionism directly:

Hedges begins] “… But they are distinct from traditional evangelicals and fundamentalists in that they seek to use religion as a route to power.
“This movement properly called Dominionism or Christian Reconstructionism is a radical mutation that believes American Christians have been mandated by God to rule. And this movement shares many similarities with classical fascist movements. What the desperate sects in this movement share is the obsession with political power. Dominionists preach that Jesus has called them to build the kingdom of God on Earth.
“America becomes in this militant biblicalism an agent of God. And all political and intellectual opponents of America’s Christian leaders are viewed quite simply as agents of Satan. Under Christian Dominion, America will no longer be a sinful and fallen nation, but one in which the ten commandments will form the basis of our legal system; Creationism and Christian values will form the basis of our educational system and the media; the federal government will be reduced to the protection of property rights and homeland security.
“Some Dominionists would require citizens to pay tithes to church organizations empowered by the government to run our social welfare agencies; and, a number of influential figures within the movement advocate the death penalty for a host of moral crimes including adultery, sodomy, apostasy, blasphemy, and witchcraft. The only legitimate voices in this state will be Christian—all others will be silenced.” 

I found his seeing despair in American culture as one thing formenting all this, this more a symptom of the spiritual darkness that has descended on this country.

Got the feeling that the non-Christians are on to something here? With the war mongering and proto-fascism growing by spades in Christian circles, what kind of example is this giving to the non-believing world? When some other observers state elsewhere on, that religion is being used to incite war, they are definitely on to something. It is true.They ask questions like, "Jesus Hated War: Why Do Christians Love It So Much"? However it is false religion. It is NOT the teachings of Jesus Christ. They are right about how dispensationalism and Pre-Trib have been used to help advance the desired third world war of Albert Pike. After all if you believe you are whisked out of here once the bombs start going off, why worry?

The false Dominionist war-loving Christianity of today resembles the cult of Mithras. The cult of Mithras was imperial and appealed to the cause of war. This was Constantine's cult where militarism was advanced and many Roman soldiers signed up. In fact the cult of Mithras contains some of the Mystery Babylon facets of Roman Catholicism today including the celebration of the winter solstice as Christmas. Remember with the mystery cults, there is much overlap in belief. Constantine was essentially the founder of official "Roman Catholicism".
Of the members of the cult, the mainstay were soldiers. Soldiers of all ranks could be members, but in some places it seems the cult appealed to officers much more than lower ranks. There were also imperial administrators and civil servants of every ranks, as well as traders, craftsmen, and many others connected to the imperial economy or government. While some slaves were also members of the cult, on the whole it seems like Mithraism appealed to those connected with the Imperial establishment. The opportunity to make social connections among Rome's powerful may have appealed to some members as much as any purely religious sentiment.
Constantine worshiped the Sol Invictus, the unconquerable sun of the cult of Mithras. Never forget Constantine made 'conquering" the top priority.


Never forget the original Dominionists was Rome, and their agendas continue today. The evangelical Dominionists of today are simply their servants. The church militant has many servants.



Not just war is desired but Conquering, power, this is what is desired by these types, the true gospel ignored as the power and prestige of this world is what is sought. Look at these examples of conquering.  Here is the Left Behind video game made for teens where the Christians have a literal shoot-out with people of other religions, see what the caption says too, that is beyond horrendous.



By the way, what is the theme of the Seven Mountains Dominionism but conquering all those mountain and laying claim to this world? Check the blog index for more articles on the Seven Mountain movement. Here Dutch Sheets, NAR leader, wants to "infect" one million youth to help take over the mountains.



More conquering here...What do you think a THEOCRACY is really about? The "culture warriors" want to conquer the non-Christians.


One thing you will notice about the Dominionist world is how authoritarian it is, and how this ties into the hypermilitarism, power and control mindset. Where do you think all the war-mongering and desire for conquering comes from? Since when did war become a great thing to Christians?


2Th 3:16    Now the Lord of peace himself give you peace always by all means. The Lord [be] with you all.

How much of the false NWO "war on terror" was advanced by pandering to the deceived evangelical crowd?  Why are we seeing so much blind submission to authority beyond what is biblical? Why are so many in love with the police state? Where is the love of peace that should be among Christian brethren? The problem is people are following deceivers, deceivers who advance, blind obedience, authoritarianism, even right down to the home level, where they want even each father of the house who is obedient to pastor, to have blindly following automatons, such as in patriarchy. Some may ask, why haven't any of the adult Duggar children, left home or stood up for their own beliefs yet? Well they were trained NOT TO. This is one reason Gothard advances the idea of obedience to parents even to middle-aged adults. This is one reason such extremist movements are growing.

Submission to authority becomes the greatest good, and authorities retain their position because people are told to listen to men over God. Even when these authorities are found to be corrupt, or even dishonest liars, the training for obedience is so intact, it holds. People are trained never to question nor to even think about what a leader has told them, which actually has helped lead to the demise of democratic citizenship in America. Authoritarianism itself is advanced, people who believe that all authority must be followed no matter what. Mercy and compassion in some of these circles today are suppressed on behalf of many of these authorities no matter what. Even the advancement of the "common good" is based on the very fact that "group-think" is now the dominant influence.

Many people see "Christians" as overly submissive to established authority and "aggressive". But why wouldn't those who are mislead be "aggressive" seeming as their war-mongering pastors teach false authoritarianism and blind obedience to authority? Even doing research for this article, and watching those videos, and I really only skimmed off the top and some of the biggest names, I have realized how hugely pervasive the whole message is, and infused in with the false eschatology of the Pre-Trib Rapture, the constant focus on Islam, and the false teachings of Christian Zionism. The evangelicals outside of this entire world are FEW in number. The influence is everywhere in Christian media, from magazines to even local preachers who praise Glenn Beck from the pulpits. Unless a Christian is paying attention FIRST to God and His Word, the foundation for deception is everywhere.

Sometimes as I look out on the so called Christian landscape my stomach hurts, "where is the love, where is the peace?" Some of the dominionist die-hards may ask, "what are you a hippie"? That is the kind of response you'll get trust me, as eyes glaze over in the left or right brainwashing. When witnessing, I tell people go see and read for yourself what Jesus Christ taught, ignore the preachers.

One looks out at a world where the so called religious right is at the throat of the left and vice versa. People all embroiled in endless lies that go round in round in circles. Even with the Middle East stuff, I almost want to say to people, what about both sides being WRONG? Sin exists in EVERY group.

Every war has been started by demonizing someone. The Jews under attack for all our history were demonized during WW2, and now the Muslims are being demonized for the third go around with demonization of Jews continuing to play it's part for world violence on the other side.  Think about all the blindly obedient, authoritarian types who manned the concentration camps during WW2. Keep in mind many of the churches were on Hitler's side. What is happening today as the majority of the churches have bowed before the political order? I can ponder that the day is coming where Christians will be demonized beyond even any present persecution, perhaps that will come about because of these false teachers and the results of their words and actions.

If someone belongs to a false religion, is the Christian response to wish for their destruction in a war or praying for peace, witnessing to them in love, not control,  and praying for their conversion? Is conversion supposed to happen at the end of a sword? The answer is No! For all the Dominionists who think they are going to win over the "liberals", "non-believers", "atheists" etc, by instituting a theocratic order here at home, they lost the plot long ago.

I remember those days when I was UU, wondering why are so many blindly following? I read the Bible myself to realize what Jesus actually taught which was the opposite of what these preachers and others were doing in exploiting religion for their OWN POWER. Forgotten is that Jesus Christ himself was sentenced to the cross, at the hands of religious authorities. 

One thing, I haven't talked about yet on this blog was one of my most disturbing times on Christian message boards. I dealt with two "Christians" who were self-avowed "Christian Zionists" who started defending torture, this was around 2004, when this issue especially about waterboarding came up in the press. I would later part company from them both. They told me torture was mandated and "necessary". I was so sickened, it wasn't funny. I found this scary article, that said "Christians are more likely to support torture."

"A new Pew survey reveals something not-all-that-shocking: people who attend church at least once a week are more likely to say torture is "often" or "sometimes" justifiable. And those who identify as evangelicals are even more likely than mainline Protestants or other denominations.

Considering that evangelicals supported President Bush the Iraq war more than any other demographic, this is hardly a surprise. The popular notion that Christianity is a feel-good pacifist religion that would never support war or torture is obviously silly, but the Christian right's almost cheerleaderish embrace of national violence seems a bit hard to explain. (To be fair, a good 44% of weekly churchgoers say torture is rarely or ever justified, so this is by no means everyone.) Percentages aside, why are Christians always a healthy margin ahead of the rest of the country when it comes to waging war or brutally interrogating prisoners?"

That should disturb you if nothing else does in this article. Think about the SPIRITUAL REALITIES OF THAT!

Here too think of the Inquisitions, and how torture was used. The antichrist will be persecuting Christians, what else but torture would be used? Why would such types think if they mandate torture for one group of people it couldn't be used against another?

I am sorry if someone desires WAR first, something has gone very wrong.

2 Cor 10:4 For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds.

3 comments:

Kayfabe said...

This post was very timely for me, I just sent it as a link to a couple of brothers of mine who are debating this issue. Very clearly we are told not to strike our enemies. Even when I was in the Army before my conversion it didn't sit well with me when I would go to service on Sunday's and every sermon was about justifying war. I would go to Catholic and Protestant services and Chaplains from both were twisting the scriptures to make it okay for America to go to war. For some reason even back then I knew that wasn't right and I saw through the manipulation.

Bible Believer said...

Thanks Kayfabe, I hope this article will help your brother too. Am glad you discerned that while you were in the Army, that is what they tell many of the soldiers, over and over. I wonder how many US soldiers now especially after multiple deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan and other hot spots are questioning why we are having all these wars and why so many places as the economy falls at home. I've heard some of those pro-Iraq war sermons myself when I was still in church from a variety of revivalists, and when visiting churches here, they would invite soldiers, usually young to go on their first deployment and talk about how they are going to fight for "God". I had no problems with the young soldiers being prayed for, and cared about, but that did not sit well with me. I have told a few "support the troops" types, real support for the troops would be honoring their lives and only risking them when there was no other choice, not to fighting for billions for Halliburton. One thing I left out of the article but perhaps should have covered is how war has become "pre-emptive" now, no one has to attack *first*..... Can one really label that DEFENSE? Yes there definitely is a lot of manipulation. I wanted to write this because the drum-beats for war are getting so loud and they got many entranced, and even wanted to point to the scriptures, that speak of Christians being peace-makers.

Anonymous said...

When Jesus Christ reigns over all the earth, He will not permit war.

The scriptures are true:

3 And he shall judge among many people, and rebuke strong nations afar off; and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up a sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.

4 But they shall sit every man under his vine and under his fig tree; and none shall make them afraid: for the mouth of the Lord of hosts hath spoken it. Micah 4:3-4

I included the 4th verse because it's rarely quoted, and it brings comfort and hope to me.