Wednesday, November 30, 2011

Dying American Freedom


"Secret Bill To Be Voted On Today Would Allow The Military To Sweep Up US Citizens At Home Or Abroad"
Either Monday or Tuesday the Senate will vote on a bill that allows the US military to imprison civilians with no formal charges and hold them with no trial.


The ACLU reports even US citizens wouldn't be immune as the legislation aims to declare national territory part of the "battlefield" in the War on Terror.

Termed the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) and drafted behind closed doors by Senators Carl Levin (D-Mich.) and John McCain (R-Ariz.) the NDAA would:

1) Explicitly authorize the federal government to indefinitely imprison without charge or trial American citizens and others picked up inside and outside the United States;

(2) Mandate military detention of some civilians who would otherwise be outside of military control, including civilians picked up within the United States itself; and

(3) Transfer to the Department of Defense core prosecutorial, investigative, law enforcement, penal, and custodial authority and responsibility now held by the Department of Justice.

From the ACLU's website:

In support of this harmful bill, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) explained that the bill will “basically say in law for the first time that the homeland is part of the battlefield” and people can be imprisoned without charge or trial “American citizen or not.” Another supporter, Sen. Kelly Ayotte (R-N.H.) a
lso declared that the bill is needed because “America is part of the battlefield.”




Both parties working to destroy what is left of America's freedoms. Keep in mind McCain is a Republican, Levin a Democrat. The 'war on terror' was designed to dismantle American freedoms and make the sheeple out of fear go with whatever was presented to them. I knew years ago the Patriot Act was just the first in many steps to the new police state. This country is becoming just like the totalitarian countries it used to stand against. What next the gulags and prison camps for dissenters? The Constitution [yes it is fallible like all human documents] has basically been shredded into nothingness, the 4th amendment is gone with the airport searches, I am sure this bill would wipe away more including what is written about your right to a "speedy trial". How can America be so asleep as this country descends into tyranny? What is scary is how this bill basically outwardly makes America, the world's police force, able to detain anyone anywhere.

I agree with this guy's comment from a online message board:

"Isn't it funny and rather strange, that the Dems and Reps can't agree on anything but taking away our liberties? Hmmmm......makes me wonder........."

As far as I know the House and Senate have APPROVED IT. [See HERE too]

Also see
"The New National Defense Authorization Act Is Ridiculously Scary"

Fellow entrepreneurs, Americans, anyone who still cares about this country at all -- this is a must read: By the end of this week, the US government very likely will have the power to lock up US citizens for life at Guantanamo Bay or other military prisons -- without charge and without trial. This means that, in the near future, a controversial Twitter post, attending a peaceful protest, or publishing an anti-Congress critique or anti-TSA rant on Google+ could land you "indefinite detention" for life, in the wording of the bill. No access to a lawyer, no access to trial.

Yes, you read that right. This would target American citizens, on American soil. Military personnel would be able to come into your house like something out of a Tom Clancy novel and chopper your innocent self down to Guantanamo Bay for life.


Say goodbye now to the American citizen's right to a jury trial by peers, one by one, every freedom is being erased. I believe total erasure of the freedom of speech and religion are coming next.

Sunday, November 27, 2011

Occult and Witchcraft Books Dominating Among Young People


Click on picture to enlarge, notice the focus on witches, occult, and the supernatural?

This is getting to be a problem, and I am noticing it as well, while I grew up on books like Rebecca of Sunnybrook Farm and the Little House on the Prairie series, children and teens are being sold MOSTLY occult books. The other day, I noticed one of my young male relatives reading a book, I said, "Hey let me check that out." He was reading this book...


It seems that every book in the series has a different dragon on it, and I flipped through it, and one of of the front leaf pages, was a focus on one of the eyes of the dragon. In one of the books in the series, "Eragon", here is a online snapshot, the book "Inheritance" as well had a picture of ONE of the dragon eyes as well. Well as you know, I have written on what the ONE EYE symbolism represents.


I have to admit I was a bit disturbed. The plot is very Harry Potterish, young man rides dragons, fights with different "spellcasters" and other aspects of the fantasy genre. I know in the case of this relative, his Catholic school read all of the Harry Potter books aloud in class, and they were extremely popular.  Books do influence people, my own youthful interest in the occult was awaken by Madeleine L'Engel's "A Wrinkle In Time". I was precocious enough to get some of the deeper meanings of the book, but without any biblical training or salvation was ripe for the picking. The Christians protesting this book for it's occult training, some of it is actually very deep dealing with inside changes in consciousness, were correct. Even the covers are totally occult full of symbols...

From the 1970s...



and today it's even worse:




Later in the day, I was in the book store, and decided to take a look myself at the teen and young people's books, and realized MOST concerned the occult in some way. It was actually shocking. The "Twilight" series which promoted vampires was very popular for a long time, but that is just one book series, the focus on books, that dealt with magic, witchcraft, and possession  actually PREDOMINATED. The luciferian powers that be do want to get to young people and lest someone state, "oh it's only fantasy", this sort of stuff does influence children and young people to explore Wicca, reject Christianity and seek after mysticism and the occult as adults.  As I have admitted in my testimony here, I studied aspects of the occult, and was into Theosophy while in the UU church, often, when I flip through books like Harry Potter, it is not just the outward selling of magic and evil, but they include a LOT of more subtle messages in the books as well. Very few know this for example but the "muggles"  in Harry Potter were named after the Muggletonians, a radical Protestant sect in the 1700s, interesting, that Rowling, gave that name to those who were born without "magic" abilities. The books are full of these multi-layers of meaning. This happens in many of the rest of them too.

Here are a couple of examples of what they are selling young people today:


" If anyone was likely to fall in with a cult of beauty-enhancing Donna Reeds it wouldn't be Alexis. Even less so if it was led by an evil spirit, since Alexis has just started recovering from the trauma of last year, when her sister was possessed by a vengeful spirit and tried to kill the whole family. But as Alexis tries to help out her socially awkward sister, it is exactly what happens. Alexis ends up oath-sworn to Aralt, who has the power to make women "pretty". How can she fight him? And why would she want to- when it means giving up a successful future"?


"Nancy Holder has created an incredibly spooky tale full of scorned lovers, murders, attempted murders, ghosts, and of course, possessions. Holder writes a vividly terrifying tale that overflows with ancient superstitions and mythologies that span the globe.

After a brief holiday break, Lindsay has reluctantly returned to the creepy Marlwood Academy; a boarding school with a dark past. It doesn’t take long for Lindsay and the rest of the residents of Marlwood Academy, including the extremely unhappy ghosts that stalk the grounds, to fall back into the swing of things – including attempted murders and possessions. Out of cliques, high school crushes and loves, and general teenage angst, Holder has created strong characters that most teen readers will easily identify with, and spun a dark twist on their interactions with one another."

Watch this video, I got it originally from the website "Stuff Fundies Like", where the non-believers scoffed at this man rather then questioning why almost all the fiction books for teens all had to do with dark magical arts. This is a Christian father noticing at Wal-mart the preponderance of occult books. One thing there are many markers on those books, that average people do not recognize, such as the use of the key on the cover, the black and white grids and more. I am glad he bought his daughter a KJV Bible.



There is something seriously wrong with this. Here, inform your children, do not keep them clueless as to the evil in the world but prepare them for it and maybe even have a discussion as to why their peers are being led to read these books and why, and seek to find them better alternatives even if you have them read old favorites. Biblically prepare them as well too, that will be most important as they confront these things. Even Christian adults have to be careful when it comes to even what our fiction and books are selling and influencing towards.

2Ti 3:15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

A Variety of Links #3

"Cell Phones Are Tracking Devices That Governments, Police, Big Corporations And Stalkers Can Use To Easily Track Your Movements" I guess this would apply to all the I-pads and other devices too. Something to think about. One thing they can trace it down, even if it is turned OFF and some have written they can pick up conversations too. The article describes even the "marketing researchers" keeping track of what stores people go into.

"Who is the Most Influential Christian Leader in the US: Survey" Billy Graham and the Pope are mentioned, no surprises there. Avoid religious celebrities and those that the world "loves".

"Entering The Realm of the Antichrist" Jesus is Savior website [I do not agree with him on Pretrib and a few other things but the site has many good things to offer] warns about the new chipping of driver's licenses and other developments.

"QuiverMeTimbers" [language warning] This young man seems to be someone who was hurt, by falling in love with a young lady in an extreme Quiverful Patriarchy family. These movements don't just enslave and hurt young girls, but men too. He is a Christian but now exposing the horrible things in that movement.

"And to those of you who practice QF who "mean well", you've been duped. Your belief is nothing but a stool pigeon of the dominionist movement. It has nothing to do with God. It has everything to do with numbers. Like I wrote here...

"Hmmm. So how do we get the numbers we need? I've got it! Breeding! But if we tell our people to just start outbreeding everyone, that'll never really sell. Sounds kinda kooky and cultic. Hmmm. So how do we do this? Hmmm. I've got it! We'll make it biblical! We'll tie it into their faith and godliness and stuff! We'll give 'em the Kool-aid under the guise of homeschooling and "family values" and stuff! They'll never even notice! Someone get Mary Pride in here ASAP!"

Also see the article on "Courtship"

There is a lot of interesting comments there...

A core problem with the courtship model is the question of whether or not a person is capable and adult enough to make decisions on their own.


Courtship removes responsibility and judgment from the people who should have already learned that responsibility and judgment and should be exercising it for themselves.

The Bible states that through the Holy Spirit and Jesus Christ, we have direct access to the throne room of God. On that terrible and wonderful day, the VEIL WAS TORN. Our High Priest is Christ and our comforter is the Holy Spirit. Our personal relationship has no one in between us. Not parents, not spouses, not siblings, not godparents, not pastors, not elders, not deacons.


Either we can hear for ourselves WITHOUT outside influence, or we cannot.

Courtship defies the personhood of those subject to it and also questions whether or not that person is capable of living life.

Without answers to these core issues, courtship is in defiance of life


"The Victorian Era Fantasy"
I've brought up that issue before in these Vision Forum/Quiverful circles how the past is glorified.

Sunday, November 20, 2011

From The News4the Masses Blog: "Resist!"


I relate to this article from News4TheMasses, a lot! Some of this warning stuff can be a hard job, given that many do not want to listen. Even realizing the immensity of how deep things go and how corruption and false wolves rule can be a burden like no other. I have to pray myself to God all the time to even deal with it.

What happens when you figure out so many of the "discernment" Bible teachers, preachers and websites are out there to fool millions? What happens as a Christian when you face the sheer diabolical agenda laid out when you "know" not only suspect that the Luciferian Deception is a reality and not just a scoffed at "conspiracy theory" that too many laugh off? While we were warned in God's Word, sometimes the human mind wrapping around it all, it can be very hard. Here is where dependence on God is paramount.

One thing, God has led people out there to warn even if most will not listen. I worry about obeying and pleasing Him first, even if sometimes even for me writing this blog, it is not easy either. It is His strength I rest on.  Keep up the good work News4themasses. I am praying for you. Even if we both reach only a few people, it will have been worth it. I agree for everyone else, pray to God and let Him lead, Let Him show you.


Read the whole article at "Resist"


"I’ve warned about Rick Warren and Chuck Smith. I’ve warned about Billy Graham and Bill Bright. I’ve warned about Jerry Boykin and his Jesuit ties. I’ve warned about Glenn Beck, the Conservative Right links to NAR, Seven Mountains (Dominionist dogma), the Pope and much more. I’ve researched and exposed the early beginnings of Calvary Chapel Movement and it’s ties to Jesuit Nelson Bunker Hunt, CNP Tim LaHaye, Leonard Sweet, Chuck Fromm, and more. It seems to fall on deaf ears. It’s not you, it’s me. It’s obviously something in my delivery or simple vanity to try and reveal that there are WOLVES in Christendom that are liars seeking to keep you lulled asleep and distracted with the wide road. I’ve sent out emails detailing Chuck Missler’s connections and his heresy to “Discernment” sites that get hundreds of thousands of hits a day whereas I get 1/100th of that! And to no avail. The information on Chuck Missler, Chuck Smith, Calvary Chapel, Jesuits, ties to Rome are paramount, even far beyond what I’ve explained here on my measly little blog. How is it that bible scholars, world travelers, vetted career researchers who have exposed countless false teachers seem to be completely and utterly blind to those whom they’ve co-ministered with for decades? Their compatriots and their links to the very same evil backers they have sought to expose go on unchallenged. Apparently some have excused those “Discernment” sites stating that YOU, the average Sheep, cannot “digest” the weightier things of Apostasy and heresy and thus have succumbed to alerting you ‘piecemeal’ the dangers that await you. I submit to you this day that there is a deep and seedy agenda taking place and the warnings that have been sent out, although heard but not heeded, will only lead to a deepening delusion. I submit as well,that those with ministries set up who travel the world and say they are speaking/teaching of prophesy and alerting you are doing something else entirely. A narrative is being propagated. A universal narrative that is not limited to the US but truly reaches globally and it’s vainglory is to get you to follow the most diabolical and evil plan yet. Lastly, I am intentionally not leading you to the conclusion, because the majority say that you are too dumb to understand; however I must have faith God can and will call out His own.
I will only, and can only, pray that you do your utmost to seek to find out what is truth and what is not."

Jam 4:7    Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

Matt 24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.

5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. 

More Disturbing Things About The Duggars


I wrote about the Duggars here: [Read these blog entries for context]

"The Oppression of Youth and Dominionism"

and

"The Duggars, Bill Gothard, Vision Forum, and The Quiverful Movement"




The other week, Michelle Duggar announced she was having her 20th baby. Maybe it's just me, but I have grown more disturbed at the whole circus. Watching the show for me has become about exposing what is going with it and the movements this family are promoting. The children are great, they are sweet, and many are lovable, but there is much to be concerned about as the family that rejects television in their own house but stars in one of the most watched reality shows out there which advances insidious agendas.  I found myself thinking of Michelle Duggar's announcement:, "What about the baby she just had, who has gone back on oxygen and who now will join the numbers of the neglected "lost" children?"  One example is Jordyn who seems to bumble around her family, 'asking who are these people and what am I doing here?", horribly ignored it seems.

That said, they have the right to have as many children as they want, [there are options for a couple to abstain 1 Cor 7:5 in the Bible which these two could have chosen] but very few realize that this couple is caught up in such cultic beliefs, that Michelle Duggar feels she must martyr herself to have as many children as possible, forgoing common sense, and even caring about the children she already has.

She said this:

“As I thought long and hard about that, I realized that ‘There’s no greater love than this that a man would be willing to lay down his life,’ and I think as a mom and a parent you’d be willing to do that for your child — even the child that’s not here yet. I would be willing to do that,” she said."


Maternal Martyr, Michelle Duggar, Willing to Risk Life for Baby #20

This article is right about the poisonous aspects of Quiverful where quantity counts at all costs, and motherhood is to be pushed above everything else, even the well-being of one's own health and the children and family already present. I remember seeing these attitudes in the Catholic church, where with some Trad Catholics who did not believe in birth control, even a broken woman who was told she would die by the doctor with the next pregnancy suffered badly. Her husband ignored her health and she got pregnant with number 16. I do not know the final results, but this woman's health had even been in more danger then Michelle Duggar's. This reminds me too of a Catholic friend in the same church who was told by two doctors, they would die via pregnancy and were told by priests, that it was their "duty" and they'd be martyrs for God if they died in childbirth. Remember prior to Vatican 2, this is how it was done EVERYWHERE in the Catholic church. Some of us are old enough to remember. Even the allowances for natural family planning was part of the "liberalization" of the Catholic church. It remains to be seen, but I have the running theory that even Quiverful probably has a tie to Catholicism in it's origins to even be introduced as such a similar teaching.

To me, Michelle Duggar's comment about martyring herself for another baby is very disturbing, and ignores what would happen to a family like the Duggars, should Mom lose her life, in having the most babies as possible. Jim Bob Duggar also holds responsibility here too. Where is his concern for his wife's health and well-being or that of his children? Even with the announcement of her 20th pregnancy,some of the children looked horrified though others kept the smiles plastered on their faces.  Let's not forget just a year and half ago, they had their lives uprooted and watched mother and sister almost die. These things were ignored by the parents.



This ties into the Dominionism too, where the woman's worth, is only seen in how many future babies she will have. The article quotes Mary Pride, a proponent of Quiverful who states:

“Missionaries go to foreign countries to beget new Christians; mothers get pregnant to be beget new Christians. Even if maternal missionary work has some hazards (and what missionary work doesn’t?), the noble way is to face them with courage. Likewise, we really ought to honor women with medical problems … diabetes, asthma, quadriplegia, arthritis, heart problems … who are willing to serve God with their bodies as mothers.”


So Michelle Duggar via her false cultic religious beliefs, has been told to have as many babies as possible even if means the end of her life and leaving the 19 she does have without a mother? Sorry but this stuff to me comes out of old school Catholicism, with phariseeical religious leaders laying burdens they themselves would not bear. How many average American families with both parents working a full time job to keep the rent paid and food on the table could take care of 20 children?

There is something worrying about that. I find myself agreeing with some of the even the secular writers who concede that Michelle Duggar is a mentally ill "baby collector" who loses interest in each child, after they leave infancy. Having watched enough of the shows, her bond with the older children seems limited. The older children seem to be more the "parents" in a way of the younger children.

One secular website [warning there are some language issues] states it this way:


"Is it really? Let's study the situation. Before their television show and book earned them millions of dollars, the children lived cramped together in a very small house . However, they live in a slightly large house since their television show. Their children's bedroom is a dormitory-like setting with multiple bunk beds. They have no privacy at all. To top all this, they have to schedule time with their parents WEEKS ahead.

Their older children have no childhoods at all. They function as primary caregivers and it is mandatory that they raise their younger siblings. Their parents do not raise the children at all. However, the Duggars INTEND to have more children. This does not make sense to most educated, normal, and intelligent people. ,We have been educated to know that when a person becomes a parent, it is their responsibility to raise their children, not other children. If a parent is affluent enough, he/she usually hires an au pair and/or a nanny to help raise their children.

Although the Duggars have money to hire nannies and au pairs to raise their children, they elect not to do so. Instead they have their oldest children consigned to slave labor status as handmaidens and servants to their younger siblings. Psychologist decry parents who have children raise other children. Psychological studies state the children do not have the maturity and the development to raise other children. The studies assert that the raising of children is an ADULT responsibility, not ANOTHER CHILD'S responsibility. I concur with those studies. An older sibling raise a younger siblings constitutes child abuse.

Furthermore, many women, including Michelle Duggar, have an inordinate amount of children because of "baby hunger". Psychological and sociological studies maintained that there are many women who continuously get pregnant because they crave infants. Once their children leave infancy, they miss this and have another child. This is a form of mental illness. These psychologically challenged women kept on having infants to the neglect of the older children. This is what Michelle Duggar is doing. She is neglecting the older children to continuously have infants to satisfy her "baby hunger".

It is evident that the oldest children in the family are neglected and relegated to the status of servant to the parents and to the younger siblings. Most rationally minded parents stop at one or two children because they believe that it all they can care for emotional and psychologically. Financial affordability is not the only factor in deciding how many children a couple has Emotional availability should be another factor. Even though a couple is highly affluent, does not mean that they should have a large family. Studies show that as a family becomes large, parents are unable to invest much emotional time in the caring of their children.

To state it succinctly, the Duggars are UNABLE to care for their children. Yet, the Duggars indicated that they wanted a twentieth child. This is totally inane. They do not even take care of the other ninteteen they have. They have it very easy as parents. That job is done by their children. There was one segment of the series in which the oldest daughters wanted to travel but the mother forbade it because she wanted them to look after her infant child"

While I believe there is nothing wrong, with having older children help in a very large family, the Duggars have taken things far far beyond that. One can see even if they watch the show, the bonds between the "buddies" surpass that of the parents.

The parents merely round them up for trips, do a Bible study but even with the homeschooling, the oldest daughters have been given the job to do all the teaching for the youngest and have taken over most of the jobs, that a mother is supposed to at least be in charge of.

That said, watching young women long out of high school, playing permanent baby-sitters for their mother, not being prepared for any future is also a concern. One thing about the Quiverful circles, is they leave their children especially female children unprepared in a society that demands education and some skills to succeed. If they were Amish, there would be at least a community and future beaus for their daughters to marry in a self enclosed system, but for now all they have formed is a gilded cage for their SAHD daughters to live in, denying them education, and opportunities even to build a future life.

Even if they preach motherhood and marriage and no career for the older girls, the oldest Duggar daughters are now well into their early 20s, and have not dated or even been allowed to "court" as far as any of us know. Imagine if some of them joined the regular world, they would find themselves years behind their peers even in education. What kind of future do they have to look forward to? It is a growing problem. Even the Amish allow their teenage children to meet in a group for games and fellowship after church services to at least give their children to meet their future mates.

By the way, I know people personally with SAHD  "Stay At Home Daughters", this is not uncommon in the "Christian" fundamentalist world now. The isolation of this life, living like it's 1830 in a 2011 world has major limitations. I do not know how that will pan out for those young women who are some of the sweetest girls I've ever met but seem consigned to living in a bubble. What is scary, is the two families I am thinking of live in a very modern suburbanized community, even the numbers of future Quiverful "Christian" husbands would be very few and far between. If one is going to live this way, at least give your grown daughters a fighting chance and move to a very traditional more rural community, or have at least a church network of some sort that shares in the same beliefs. That is a reality out there, the Quiverfuls often live in a world where they are "connected" via the literature, magazines, and the occasional ATI or homeschool conferences--there is a reason that the Duggars "best friends" ,the Bates live a few states away.

What is ironic about most Quiverful/Vision Forum families, including the two that I know, are the mothers and fathers often had modern education, and in the father's case hold jobs that require a regular college education. While we can be concerned about the wicked things being foisted through the university system and public school system, when no vocational training of any sort is offered that is accredited or approved outside the cult system, what will those young people have to do for a living?  That is setting children including young men who must find some way to support these immensely large families up for future failure and being way behind their peers. The Duggars have consigned their children to these 'outside' the system organizations even past the normal  homeschool K-12 point forgoing college or trade school for the "College Plus" program.

Here too, the Amish have lands and farms for self sufficiency and some of the families are wise to go more in that direction, but watching the older children in the Duggar family being denied real educations that will be marketable seems to be a disaster in the waiting, once the TLC money dries up. Some may manage to have successful business built on Dad's coattails, but it's doubtful that is going to happen for 10 sons.

This article "Homeschool Blindspots" points some of those major problems out but what about not preparing children for future careers? That is just one of the biggest problems right there. Even among the Duggar children such as Jill and Josiah, who seem to be having their dreams of more intellectual pursuits repressed. Some time ago, I asked one of the Vision Forum influenced families I know if their grown daughter would be going to college, she told me, "No, she will be preparing to be a midwife." These particular folks, live in a suburban house, in a community where most go to the hospital to birth their babies.

Many of those like the Duggars end up living in a little bubble world where home is the "entire world". There is a growing issue out there and warning it does use a tune of modern music to make it's message, this video was done by a Christian man who homeschools his children but worries for the affects of the extreme SAHD/Quiverful/Vision Forum/Gothard teachings on girls who must have every future husband approved by their fathers using humor.



This definitely seems to be a fate that very well could befall the Duggar girls.

One thing, many look at the Duggar children, and think they are so happy, but ignore the cult realities beyond the surface, one of those is ATI, itself. ATI, actually stands for ADVANCED TRAINING INSTITUTE, which is kind of a scary name, denoting control and worse. What is everyone being TRAINED for?



They are sent to ATI camps to be taught Bill Gothard's teachings. See here. Now if you read that website and the young girl who was sent to ATI camp and said some of the Duggar girls were present, I noticed something she wrote right off

There was a big emphasis on quieting of the mind and being silent. Waiting for God. Really waiting. I have been working on that on the train and since I came home. It really is an exercise!! 

That sounds like contemplative exercises, that are not Christian nor biblical. One Christian commenter even comes on to warn her. ATI is Bill Gothard's organization and supports the Quiverful, patriarchial visions, where even grown children are to remain under the umbrella of the father. They add to the Bible with their so called "Wisdom Booklets" 



Marriage is a pretty big subject, but notice how meekness is the thing on the roster here, to help promote the patriarchy teachings. Here are some Duggars singing at ATI camp. Good song, but what about the false teachings that go along with it?




Webwide, one can read even more detail about Bill Gothard's false teachings.

The Bill Gothard connections, are scary enough, but The Duggars have now shown support for The Pearls. That has always been debated online, do they follow the teachings of the Pearls who are popular in these cirlces? Well looks like they do.  Online, I saw folks discussing The Duggars listing The Pearl's "ministry" "No Greater Joy" on their website in helping to sell their products. Obviously this is some support for the teachings of the Pearls.. Remember the Pearls? If you google them you can find endless websites that expose them and their ties to childhood abuse. Why are the Duggars supporting this ministry on their website given the controversies?



One thing to remember about the Duggars, the shiny happy faces do not tell the whole story. Don't be fooled there. ATI teaches that young people must always look happy, which is often the way things are done in every other cult.  Show outsiders bright, happy, shining faces. So do not let the smiling faces of the children fool you, they probably are really happy some of the time, but other times, I really doubt it. This article goes into more detail:


One of the creepiest things about Gothard and the Pearls is that they teach that happy is the only acceptable emotion. If you do not have a joyful countenance, you are publicly shaming your authorities. In other words, if the kid looks unhappy, it is a personal offense against the parents. Pearl also has nauseating quotes and anecdotes about how any time his kids expressed unhappiness or anger they were hit even harder and longer until they were cheerful. How twisted is that? Children are taught from babyhood to always be cheerful, or else they deserve a spanking. As they grow older, it is not just the fear of a spanking that causes them to keep smiling. It is the sincere belief that they are sinning with ingratitude, rebellion and more if they don't present a happy face.




Hopefully The Duggars do not take things that far beyond the already admitted "blanket training" [see above], but keep that in mind the next time you read about or watch the Duggars.

Why is this particular family being so promoted?

Saturday, November 19, 2011

Trouble In Syria



I don't agree with everything espoused in these articles, putting up for the news, this is not a good development.

"Nato Beats the Drums of War Against Syria and Iran"

"Russian Warships Enter Syrian Waters to Prevent NATO Attack"

See here too.

and "Report: Russia warships to enter Syria waters in bid to stem foreign intervention"

Russian warships are due to arrive at Syrian territorial waters, a Syrian news agency said on Thursday, indicating that the move represented a clear message to the West that Moscow would resist any foreign intervention in the country's civil unrest.


"The burden of Damascus. Behold, Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap. The cities of Aroer are forsaken: they shall be for flocks, which shall lie down, and none shall make them afraid. The fortress also shall cease from Ephraim, and the kingdom from Damascus, and the remnant of Syria: they shall be as the glory of the children of Israel, saith the LORD of hosts." Isa.: 17:1-3

Friday, November 18, 2011

A Bishop's Sympathy For Penn State


How do I put this? One thing, realize abuse of children is rife in the new world order. The pedophilia circles, and Satanism go hand in hand, while Malachi Martin was a deceiver, when he connected "satanic covens" to child sexual and other abuse in the Catholic church in his book "Windswept House", that part was true. Just realize that is why this stuff is cropping up and being exposed. I am rather fuzzy about some of the details about the Penn State scandal, too disgusted to read much about it. I know sexual abuse of children was hidden and more amoral cowards didn't stand up on their behalf just like in the Catholic church.

What is even more sick, is today is finding this...

"Penn State scandal "opens wound" in Catholic Church"

Ever notice it's all about them? The victims get shunted aside for them to whine about themselves and their "wound". By the way, don't buy his implying that the sexual scandals in the Catholic church are "over", either!

(Reuters) - The top U.S. Catholic bishop said on Monday that a child sex abuse scandal at Penn State University "opens a wound" within the church, which remains scarred from its own similar controversies and cover-ups.

"We know what you're going through," Archbishop Timothy Dolan of New York, president of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, told a news conference in Baltimore where hundreds of bishops have gathered for their national meeting.

Dolan declined to offer advice to Penn State University on how to deal with its scandal, because the church "has not been a good example of how to deal with this in the past," he said. "No one has suffered more than the Catholic community."

"Whenever this issue has come into public view again as it has with Penn State, it opens a wound," Dolan said."

Former Penn State assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky was charged on November 5 with sexually abusing eight boys over more than a decade.

see here too

Baptist-Orthodox Dialogue


The World Baptist Association represents several Baptist denominations, this is more of the one world religion deceptions promoted by Roman Catholicism. Remember the Orthodox church holds most of Rome's errors with a few differences as shown here. The majority of Orthodox patriarchs are involved with the Pope.



Baptists, Orthodox Consider Formal Dialogue

FALLS CHURCH, Va. (ABP) – Teams from the Baptist World Alliance and the Ecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople held exploratory talks Oct. 30-Nov. 2 that could lead to formal dialogue between Baptist and Orthodox Christians internationally.

BWA General Secretary Neville Callam, who led the Baptist delegation, described aims of the meeting held on the island of Crete as responding to the Lord's prayer in John 17:21 for his disciples “that they may all be one ... that the world may believe.”

“Facing this challenge today, we believe that we should continue to explore our common ground in biblical teaching, apostolic faith and tradition as well as practical Christian witness, together with our remaining differences," Callam said.

Joining Callam in the BWA delegation were Steven Harmon, adjunct professor of Christian theology at Gardner-Webb University School of Divinity in Boiling Springs, N.C., and Paul Fiddes, professor of systematic theology at Oxford University in the United Kingdom.

Representing Orthodox Christians were Gennadios of Sassima of the Ecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople and professor of Orthodox theology and canon law; George Tsetsis, a former permanent representative of the Ecumenical Patriarchate to the World Council of Churches; and Konstantinos Kenanidis, general director of the Orthodox Academy of Crete.

See: The Orthodox Church: Branch of the Harlot

Sunday, November 13, 2011

Calvary Chapel: A Set Up From The Start?



More and more I see Calvary Chapel as just another pseudo-Catholic counter-reformation operation. There are others of course, but Azusa street was the source of many demonic fruits. As one can tell I do not even trust some who are now "exposing" Calvary Chapel. Things get odd when you realize one of the top "exposers" is still holding Bible seminars with one high level "Bible teacher" with massively incredible new world order ties.

I wanted to share this, it was written by another poster on a message board where Calvary Chapel was being discussed from a couple of years ago. I do not think he will mind me sharing this, but it was one of the best written summing up of this whole deceit, I have ever seen. Remember I have warned of those too who have been given the "easy believism" gospel and who never are really born again. Anyhow it gives one some room for thought:

Anyway... I would simply share my view that CC is doing everything exactly right in order to facilitate a huge apostasy in the not-too-distant future (it would seem):


Firstly, the tragic error of PreTrib has millions of Evangelicals, lead by CC, set up to be completely blindsided when the Antichrist seizes the world's centerstage.


Thus we have Jesus' careful predictions, descriptions and warnings (in the Olivet Discourse of Matthew 24, Mark 13 and Luke 21)...of an apostasy which draws in the vast majority of Christs' followers when they, in a state of panic, capitulate to the Antichrist and receive the mark of the beast.


The vast majority of "Bible-believing Evangelicals" are going to their doom, according to the direct words of Jesus Himself. Extremely tragic, when one realizes that grasping a few simple facts would prevent any given individual from being seduced by this apostasy deception.


Secondly, the other hugely erroneous notion which seems to prevail with CC (and the rest of mainstream Evangelicalism) and which will play a critical role in the apostasy plot...is this utterly wrenched, warped approach to "once-saved-always-saved". The average participant in mainstream Evangelical church culture has a mindset in which he/she simply presumes to have absolute and finalized assurance of their salvation.


All the Scriptures which indicate that "assurance of salvation" absolutism is a dangerous, erroneous presumption...all those passages have been brushed aside and left in obscurity:


"Work out your salvation with fear and tembling"..."Examine yourself whether you are of the faith"..."endeavor with all eagerness to make your calling and election sure"...on and on and on.


The reason this unbiblical "absolute presumption of salvation" becomes so critically dangerous, particularly in the end times scenario...is because of how these satanic "false prophet" Evanglical leaders will be seducing people into accepting the "mark of the beast" in return for safe haven. Here is where the "OSAS" false doctrine springs into action-- The desperate, panic-stricken individual rationalizes to himself:


"Look...I need food for my family. I don't want to have my family torn apart and thrown into dungeons. Many prominent church leaders, including some well-known CC pastors, are telling us it's OK to cooperate...that this RFID chip insertion they're asking us to receive, isn't really the 'mark of the beast'. Hey I'm a "Christian" after all--what's the worst that could happen?"


Another apostasy-aiding dysfunction in CC culture is...the doctrine of tongues. In my view, the doctrine of tongues, particularly CC's consistently inconsistent, utterly glossed-over approach...creates a culture of mindlessness. I've begun to realize that many Evangelical churches have modeled themselves after CC in this regard:


1) Supposedly, tongues are OK and "of the Lord"...yet no real opportunity is given to practice such. 2) The subject is not really taught and, in fact, is "glossed over" when it comes up in a given text. The issue is never resolved. It remains in a permanent state of limbo. The levels of confusion among attendees are very high. Certainly, there are always those with strong opinions--yea or nay. But most folks who attend CC-style "quasi-Charismatic" churches (such as I have) remain confused and uncertain.


This whole CC approach to tongues contributes towards a dangerous notion that "we need to realize there are important matters in the Bible which no one really can understand...and we need to steer clear of divisiveness".


Of course, this is how (in my opinion) PreTrib has slid by for so long: The survival of PreTrib has had a critical dependence on fooling millions of people into rationalizing: "I couldn't explain PreTrib to save my life..but my favorite leaders and teachers have all signed off on it...so, I guess I'm a PreTribber-by-default".




As I said-- a kind of "mindlessness"...in which we are conceding the responsibility of thinking to others.


ON EDIT: Another critical aspect...is the way in which top CC leaders are CONSTANTLY consorting with top ecumenists. These ecumenists (such as BG and Rick Warren) are the leading suspects in any "false prophet" scenario. CC leaders are lending credibility to top "false prophet" suspects. The success of the Matthew 24 "apostasy plot" depends on....credibility.


To lend credibility to potential false prophets....is to play a central, critical role in the success of the Great Apostasy. And the Great Apostasy is the "end game"...the grand prize for all satanic ecumenists. And it is an "end game" clearly predicted and described by Jesus.




Thinking about what this poster wrote, it is one of the best explanations for Calvary Chapel I have found. There are good people in the pews in Calvary Chapel who want to follow God, but simply do not know how deeply they are being deceived.  I do not believe that Calvary Chapel was "infiltrated by the Vatican" as one of the recent "exposers" touts or that that the leaders are poor souls who have been fooled by closet Jesuits, but that it was rotten from the beginning. It was meant to deceive along with other organizations and false churches that been set up to mislead. 

My running theory is that the hyper Pentecostal and Charismatic movement was part of the over-all deception even from a hundred years ago. The sad thing is there are other churches, that are just as bad. Assembly of God being another example that is tied into every Dominionist, neo-con political program as well.

If one even checks into the deep ends of the Jesus Movement and who was running that show, the satanic elements are there for the reading. I agree with the part about the mindlessness, leading people to forgo careful doctrinal and biblical examination and leading by the Holy Spirit, to shut down thinking, and the deceit of the Pre-Trib Rapture which I have talked about already on here. Everything definitely seems to be leading people to be deceived for the last days. Right the evangelicals have marched blindly into the one world church. Those days are here now.

Mar 13:5    And Jesus answering them began to say, Take heed lest any [man] deceive you:

ICEP: A Catholic Group Working With Lausanne

One thing about this article, this is news from 2006, but want to use this as an example of what is being done via the "World Christian Movement" which Lausanne is a part of.

Here is an example of the Catholic connections to Lausanne, including a group like ICPE Missions, which is Pope supported and part of the Lausanne network.



As I said before, the Vatican supports this group as do the Catholic bishops. Here is a Zenit article taken from EWTN considering their "official approval".

A ZENIT DAILY DISPATCH
Institute for World Evangelization
For Missionary Vocations
VATICAN CITY, 21 MAY 2006 (ZENIT)
Here is the description of Institute for World Evangelization which appears in the Directory of International Associations of the Faithful, published by the Pontifical Council for the Laity.
* * *
Official name: Institute for World Evangelization
Acronym: ICPE Mission
Established: 1985
History: ICPE Mission was founded in Malta by Mario and Anna Cappello, supported by the leaders and members of the Glory of God International Covenant Community, a Catholic Charismatic Renewal community, of which it aims to be the missionary outreach.
After receiving canonical recognition from the archbishop of Malta in 1992, across the years the institute has set up community centers in various countries, made up of missionaries of varying nationalities who have given up their own professional commitments and, by trusting themselves to providence, dedicate themselves to a life of prayer and evangelization.
On May 19, 2002, the Pontifical Council for the Laity decreed recognition of the Institute for World Evangelization-ICPE Mission to be an international association of the faithful of Pontifical right.
Headquarters:
ICPE Institute for World Evangelization
Via della Stazione Aurelia, 95
00165 Rome — Italy

Ok, now here is a copy of a Lausanne publication from the "Lausanne Younger Leaders"
gathering in 2006.


Mario Capello is the head of ICEP.

Here is a picture of Mario Capello and the last Pope.


So the Lausanne movement has had a man who is vetted by the Pope, as a speaker to promote global unity of the 'church":

Mario Cappello, head of the Institute for World Evangelization, also spoke during the plenary session about the need for unity in the global Church. According to Lausanne’s report, many in the audience were overwhelmed with emotion when Cappello thanked the evangelical community for working to bring salvation to others.


“[Cappello’s speech] changed my life!” said Marcellus Mbah, who founded The Strong Revival Prayer Force in Cameroon, to Lausanne. “I think I had had this mindset about the Catholic Church and now I know that God is doing amazing things everywhere. I am amazed.”


Cappello has trained more than 200,000 Catholics in missions and discipleship by using the JESUS Film project and other evangelism tools.


See how that works?

This of course is just one group, but this tells you how strong the networks are and the delusions they want to sell.

Calvary Chapel Connections to Lausanne


I have warned about Lausanne here and here.

"Lausanne and 7 Mountain Dominionism"

and

"The Lausanne Movement Bringing Evangelicals Into the Antichrist Fold"


As Billy Graham's outfit incorporating multiple denominations, churches and parachurch organizations, Lausanne's tenacles are everywhere, and that includes Calvary Chapel too.

The Lausanne movement is for world unity of all evangelicals under the social justice and ecumenical umbrella. By the way Lausanne has FULL blown Catholic connections, this is a way they are marching the evangelical world into the harlot. Lausanne is WORLDWIDE covering many countries, with multiple PARA-Church organizations of different names.

What I am noticing is a lot of connections to Lausanne leaders and organizations and lots of meetings, like a spider web.

See this one:Watch unto Prayer

I do not agree with everything on that website but they have some interesting information and some other discernment websites list Calvary Chapel as one of the facilitators of the Lausanne Covenant. Realizing the close connection of Calvary Chapel pastors with Billy Graham makes this very possible and very probable as well.

This is from many years ago, but it tells you some of the early connections.

Major buildings on the Wheaton campus sported names written in Korean. Not a word of English could be found in the program materials. There was only a token representation of non-Korean speakers, no doubt as a courtesy more than a necessity. Among them: Thomas Wang, international director, Lausanne Committee for World Evangelization; David Howard, general secretary, World Evangelical Fellowship; Ralph Winter, general director, U. S. Center for World Mission; Chuck Smith, senior pastor, Calvary Chapel, Southern California, and Archer Torrey, an Episcopalian missionary to Korea.

Click on pictures to make them bigger....



Then of course there is Ariel Fructembaum who is very popular in Calvary Chapel circles and I have mentioned before in articles about Jacob Prasch.

Dr. Arnold Fructenbaum - Executive Director, Ariel Ministries [member Lausanne Consultation on Jewish Evangelism/LCJE]

There are plenty of Calvary Chapel involvements with Lausanne.

Remember there are lots of parachurch organizations under the Lausanne umbrella. Here two Calvary Chapel pastors are on the board of one.
Active Staff
Stanton R. Herpick - Founder and President, World Christian Outreach, Inc.
Moreno Valley, California.
James M. Kariuki - Director of African Affairs, Laikipia Kenya, East Africa.
Kennedy K. Kamau - Director of East African Affairs, Nairobi, Kenya.
Sarah W. Kariuki - Prayer Director, Nairobi, Kenya.


Board of Directors
Harold Anderson - Pastor Higher Ground Calvary Chapel, Moreno Valley, CA.
Jack Clark - Associate Pastor Higher Ground Calvary Chapel, Moreno Valley, CA.
Damaris Herpick - Nursing Assistant, Moreno Valley, CA.
Stanton Herpick - President World Christian Outreach Moreno Valley, CA.
Jack Klaer - President, KBI Construction Co., Tustin, CA.
Ron Sukut - Pastor Cornerstone Church, San Clemente, CA


Executive Advisors
U.S.
Ronald Birtcher - Retired Businessman, Napa, CA.
Kenya
Moses Meeli - Bishop, Anglican Church of Africa, Namanga, Kenya.
Amos N. Bacha, Church of Christ, Nairobi, Kenya

The World Christian Outreach Lausanne roots are admitted on their website:

"Stanton R. Herpick, founder and president of World Christian Outreach, Inc., attended the International Congress on World Evangelization in Lausanne, Switzerland in 1974, while a student at Fuller Seminary in Pasadena, California.

At this significant, watershed missions conference organized by the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association, Stan heard first hand accounts of the tremendous obstacles and challenges faced by our Lord’s church in foreign countries.


Through a set aside time of fasting and prayer in 1975 the name and vision for World Christian Outreach was born. The ministry incorporated in California March 28, 1976 as a 501©3 non-profit organization with the intent to..." 


Here is another example.

VisionNetwork now also called the New Zealand Christian Network is linked to Lausanne and admits it.

The Lausanne Movement is extending an invitation to evangelicals throughout the world to engage together over some of the most critical issues of our time bearing on world evangelisation. So that as many people as possible can benefit from the 3rd Lausanne Conference on world evangelisation taking place in October 2010, once each month Lausanne will publish an article a month on topics that relate to the Congressconference. visionnetwork is a partner with Lausanne through its membership in the WEA. visionnetwork is encouraging as many people as possible to join the Lausanne Global Conversation.



Pay attention to these lists, the sheer number of churches and denominations. A Calvary Chapel pastor is on this one too:

visionnetwork's Board of Reference
– as at 31 July 2009

The Rev Neville Bartle, National Leader, Church of the Nazarene
Commissioner Donald Bell, Territorial Commander, The Salvation Army in New Zealand, Fiji and Tonga
Luke Brough, National Leader, Elim Church of New Zealand
The Rev David Bush, General Secretary, Methodist Church of New Zealand
The Most Revd Peter Cullinane, Bishop of Palmerston North, Catholic Church of New Zealand
Peter Eccles, Chairman, Congregational Union of New Zealand
The Right Revd Richard Ellena, Bishop, Anglican Diocese of Nelson
Robert Erickson, President, Lutheran Church of New Zealand
John Fabrin, CEO, Rhema Broadcasting Group
The Rev John Gummer, Director, Christian and Missionary Alliance of New Zealand
Ken Harrison, General Superintendent, New Zealand Assemblies of God
Brian Hughes, Senior Pastor, Calvary Chapel
Brent Liebezeit, President, Christian Churches New Zealand
The Rev Rodney Macann, National Leader, Baptist Churches of New Zealand
Rex Morgan, Secretary Treasurer, Worldwide Church of God New Zealand
Tony Plews, Executive Director, Leadership Development International
Lloyd Rankin, National Leader, Vineyard Churches of New Zealand
The Right Revd Dr Graham Redding, Moderator, Presbyterian Church of Aotearoa New Zealand; Principal, Knox Centre for Ministry and Leadership
The Rev Murray Robertson, Pastor Emeritus, Spreydon Baptist Church; Director, Leadership Development Network
Hal Short, President, United Christian Broadcasters International
Les Stephenson, Acting CEO, World Vision New Zealand
Dr Mark Strom, Principal, Laidlaw College
Steven Tollestrup, Executive Director, TEAR Fund
Professor Paul Trebilco, Department of Theology and Religious Studies, University of Otago
The Rev Richard Waugh, National Superintendent, Wesleyan Methodist Church of New Zealand

see the list here too, I have taken screenshots of this as well, but not posted here.

These connections are worldwide.

Now read what I post in the next article.

RFID chips by 2017?

Notice how they sell this stuff....it's all about indoctrinating people.

Wednesday, November 9, 2011

Above Rubies Supports Homeland Security!





One facet of the Dominionists is they always support the the new world order paradigm which includes the perpetual 'war on terror", the police state and the outcome of the inside job known as 9-11. This article is revealing as it connects the fear driven homeland security agency in the USA, to implementing such standards at home. I mean after all your nation is becoming more totalitarian by the minute, why not crack down at home and let fear and control rule there too?

Colin Campbell is a supporter of the system and what has happened to America making this clear in this article. From Above Rubies, Oct. 2010, No. 80 p. 24

"Soon after 9/11, President George W. Bush ordered a new branch of security and named it The Department of Homeland Security. We were told this was most needful in order to keep the citizens of the USA as safe as possible from fanatical extremists who would like to do nothing than blow us all up. This Department seems have done an excellent job bu the fact there has been no successful major attack on the USA since 9/11. Let's pray that security at our airports and major ports of entrance will continue to be vigilant and successful in foiling all attempts against us."

I guess we can surmise from that, that Colin Campbell is a supporter of TSA, odd how all the care about the children gets thrown out the door considering the invasive searches even on children at airports.


What is scary is, considering the wiping away of American freedoms and a society going more into police state mode, is Colin Campbell wants you to apply this to your home as well. After all if the government is going to search you and treat everyone as a would be criminal, security comes above everything else, why not bring it to the homefront as well? This more and more has become the message of the Dominionists overall, not just with the Quiverfuls.


He writes:

 "However I believe that every home should have its own Department of Homeland Security. There is no question that the family is under major attack. Over 50 percent of Christian marriages end in divorce and multitudes of other marriages are on shaky ground. Over 50 precent of American children live iwth a single parent and many well-meaning Christian families are losing their teenage children to the devourer"

Now I want you to think about something here, remember how I have written about how Dominionism as a whole is being used for oppression and control over the populace and especially the youth, in service of the new world order? Don't be surprised that it's promoters want to bring even to one's home the same sense of fear, security at all costs and sense of control into family relationships.

He brings up "border control", as one metaphor for keeping "control" over one's home. This is more of the sheltering concepts where people want to "shelter" and "protect" children from the outside world. He writes "We must take control over who our children hang out with, where they are going, and exactly when they will return home" and continues later with, "The truth is that multitudes of churchgoing parents are losing their children to the world, the flesh and the devil, all because they do not take border control seriously,"

Hate to say it but a nation that gives up all freedom for security has lost both and so will parents that think they can squeeze and control their children into utter submission and godliness. If anything parents who control to an extreme degree-I understand knowing where children of a certain age are going and doing, but who take things too far, almost ensure more rebellion. Also what happens when the children are adults and have been kept away from the "wicked" world and not prepared for anything? Mother and Father will not always be there. Godliness comes from salvation in Jesus Christ and via the Holy Spirit, not a long list of rules, or control or submission to worldly authorities.

Act 22:28 And the chief captain answered, With a great sum obtained I this freedom. And Paul said, But I was [free] born.

Here too we see the culture wars message in this article:

"I believe it is hypocritical to have more regard for our military and national defense then for our family's morals and values. The nation is as only strong as the moral value of its families. The moral values of our families are only as strong as the moral values of parents, coupled with their vigilance and determination to teach and pass on these values to their children."





Hate to say it but if someone supports the endless wars, where now America has become a police man of the world for the new world order, where multitudes of thousands have died in bombings and more, where is the morality and "goodness" in that? Where is the morality in watching grandmothers and children even electronically stripped searched at the airport? Or watching freedoms and dignity stripped from so many? Or seeing millions lose their homes and jobs, while money goes to the most corrupt wealthiest? They speak of morals and values, as being forced from on high, and there Campbell loses the plot there too, unless they are intrinsic and made part of a child via example and via God's leading, all the tight fisted vigilance will be for naught. Those who cannot discern the total evil within the new world order fascist system really have a problem.

Its all very hypocrital. We see here basically more support of the right side of the new world order, and total evil. What is holy about tyranny? That is a question I have for Campbell and his blind bowing down before and promotion of the new world order to religious people reading his magazine "Above Rubies".


I never knew Ray Comfort wrote for Above Rubies, some of the spiderwebs, get weird out there. See page 26, he wrote for them in the 1980s and Campbell quotes him adding to the pile of fear marketed to Christian parents to copy their government in bringing tyranny to the home in the name of protection.

"Helplessness and horror also grip me as I see Christian children, slowly but surely being devoured by Satan. One by one he plucks semi-blind teenagers from the warmth and security of the nest before the panic stricken eyes of the parents. The problem is very clear to the onlooker. Too many nests have been built on the outer edge of the thorn bush. Satan is walking around about as a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour".


The question I have here, is, where is your courage? Where is your prayer for those same children? Where is your trust in God? All these teachers seem to want to do is sell FEAR. There is realistic warnings and things to warn about, and then there is just selling plain FEAR to get people to buy into your false teachings. Sometimes I often see unbelievers writing about fundamentalist Christians, saying "They are so afraid". Is that a good example? I think I am seeing some of what those people mean. Yes the world is evil, and one needs to separate from it, but when people abandon examining themselves to see if they are in the faith, and when they abandon biblical courage, this is why they get sold out, supporting the wicked new world order, and tyranny. This is why seven mountains theology has gotten so big.

2Cr 13:5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?

Deu 31:6 Be strong and of a good courage, fear not, nor be afraid of them: for the LORD thy God, he [it is] that doth go with thee; he will not fail thee, nor forsake thee.


Look how the new world order has gotten the American people via FEAR to give up so many things that were previously good about our country.


What is Campbell and those like him selling through this fear?

Church Outrage: The Schullers and Their Limos



Food request for Rev. Schuller's wife sparks outrage

I guess this tells us some of why Crystal Cathedral went bankrupt:



An email sent out to members of the Crystal Cathedral congregation requesting meals for founder Robert H. Schuller's wife Arvella, who is ill with pneumonia, is creating mixed feelings of sadness and outrage among members.

According to longtime member Jim McDonald, an email was sent out by administrators to Bible study groups as well as church elders, asking that meals for the reverend's wife be dropped off at the cathedral's Tower of Hope where the Schullers' limo drivers will be waiting to pick them up at the designated time.

Robert H. Schuller and Arvella Schuller seen here when they renewed their vows to celebrate their 50th wedding anniversary. A request that went out last week seeking meals for Arvella, who is ill with pneumonia, has sparked outrage among congregants. The church is currently in Chapter 11 bankruptcy awaiting a sale.

Member Bob Canfield says he was outraged when he got the message.

"These are millionaires who have limos and chauffeurs," he said. "Why in God's name would they want the congregants to deliver meals? It's ludicrous."

Looks like some of the church members are getting a clue. Hopefully this will lead at least some to repentance and departure from false teachers:
Canfield said he and other members of the congregation are upset the request came at a time when their church is in bankruptcy and information coming out through court documents has suggested that the Schullers took nearly $10 million from the church's endowment funds.

"They've completely depleted the church's funds," he said. "But they have shown that they have absolutely no remorse for what they've done. They're still being chauffeured around in limos. We, the congregants, have nothing."

Crystal Cathedral Ministries filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy Oct. 18. A judge is expected to approve a sale plan on Nov. 14. Both the cathedral's board and the creditors committee have named Chapman University as their preferred buyer. Chapman's offer stands at $51.5 million. The Roman Catholic Diocese of Orange has offered $53.6 million. However, the Chapman plan will allow the Schullers to remain and continue their ministry with a leaseback and buyback arrangement.


Jhn 10:13 The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep.

Why America is Broke

Integrating the gap nations for the new world order is pretty expensive.

Cost of War

Joel Osteen Welcomes Oprah and Tyler Perry to His Church



Joel Osteen Welcomes Oprah Winfrey, Tyler Perry to Lakewood Church
Television mogul Oprah Winfrey and stage and movie producer Tyler Perry created a stir with a surprise appearance at Pastor Joel Osteen's Lakewood Church in Houston, Texas, Sunday for an 11 a.m. service.

"Awesome to have you!" said Osteen, announcing their presence and welcoming the celebrities to the church. "We're so honored to have you both here, and we just celebrate and pray for you guys with what God is doing in your lives."

Winfrey was in the area to interview Osteen as part of her new series "Oprah's Next Chapter," which is set to premiere in January on her channel, the Oprah Winfrey Network. She reportedly joined Osteen and his wife, Victoria Osteen, for lunch at their home and discussed topics with them such as power, marriage and faith, according to The Houston Chronicle.


Oprah advances the New Age every chance she gets on her show. This has included New Age mysticism teacher Eckhart Tolle. With Osteen being a false preacher, I am not surprised he is promoting Oprah either. Wicked Hollywood and celebrities married to false hirelings all in one giant spider web, often reveal the same evil satanic messages.





This video shows Oprah's endless luciferian messages. It includes references to "Cosmic Consciousness, 'god" as female, many diverse ways to heaven, and blasphemy about 'jesus". Oprah states "There are certainly more paths to "god" rather then Christianity." Think of the millions especially of women, that Oprah has influenced in America.

Well obviously Osteen believes that too.

Saturday, November 5, 2011

Poverty In America Growing Worse with Churches Even More Out of Touch


See any of the phony churches talking about these issues or dealing with them? I sure don't.

Keep in mind food stamps are basically a modern day bread line.

45.8 Million In USA Now On Food Stamps

"15 Trillion Dollars In Debt, 45 Million Americans On Food Stamps And Zero Solutions On The Horizon"


You won't hear about this in the false churches. The religious right, is more busy berating poor people for owning refrigerators in modern society and claiming they aren't poor.

Extreme Poverty Is Now At Record Levels – 19 Statistics About The Poor That Will Absolutely Astound You

According to the U.S. Census Bureau, a higher percentage of Americans is living in extreme poverty than they have ever measured before. In 2010, we were told that the economy was recovering, but the truth is that the number of the "very poor" soared to heights never seen previously. Back in 1993 and back in 2009, the rate of extreme poverty was just over 6 percent, and that represented the worst numbers on record. But in 2010, the rate of extreme poverty hit a whopping 6.7 percent. That means that one out of every 15 Americans is now considered to be "very poor". For many people, this is all very confusing because their guts are telling them that things are getting worse and yet the mainstream media keeps telling them that everything is just fine. Hopefully this article will help people realize that the plight of the poorest of the poor continues to deteriorate all across the United States. In addition, hopefully this article will inspire many of you to lend a hand to those that are truly in need.

It's sad, at least during the last Depression, people admitted there was a Depression. Now as we live in a land of lies, they tell you the economy is recovering.

I am getting concerned seeing so many I know who are unemployed or underemployed. I know people who have been unemployed for long periods of time. Things are getting tough out there. One thing I find most disgusting about the religious right is their hatred for the poor and disdain for them. The Left is evil as well, exploiting them, but I have seen evidence of hatred for the poor only growing that I talked about in this article from over a year ago:

"Worldly attitudes towards the poor".

So the picture is growing bad out there.

One program I found out the churches are embracing is called BRIDGES out of POVERTY This program is growing more popular out there.



In fact an acquaintance told me her church was running a "Bridges out of Poverty" class. It is also called the "Aha Process". A few years ago, I read about this program, and was horrified at what I found. This program was started by a woman named Dr. Ruby Payne who came out of the Jesuit university of Loyola. Basically it implies that people are poor because they are lazy, that they have bad work habits, and do not value the same things the upper classes do. One of the aspects of the program is telling people the "hidden rules" of economic class.





See the charts here too. Notice something? It focuses on bad behavior making people poor. It blames the person. The poor already face extreme judgements. The lack of money changes the decisions, but folks like this will ignore that basic.

On the grid regarding these charts, 1-4 is the spectrum from rich to poor, with the richest and most wealthy being at #4 and poorest at #1.

I want to show you something that struck me as absolutely horrifying given the corruption of bankers, and some of the wealthiest in our country, that is detailed on this chart. Click to enlarge:


Notice this part of the chart, and the stuff about "intelligence". Given the sheer amounts of college educated going without jobs, this stuff is inexplicable. Education today does not automatically coincide with money. Lack of education can surely keep one in poverty but this is more blindness to reality. There are plenty with college degrees who grew up upper middle class even and unable to get as good paying jobs as their parents fell down a few notches.



While there is generational poverty and people who end up in poverty who reject all responsibility or have addiction problems, what astounds me is as the American economy and middle class is destroyed and as formerly middle class people, fall down the ranks, the churches out there are promoting a program, that enforces the "it's all your fault" nonsense. They can claim all they want that hard work and education will eradicate poverty but if all the jobs are being sent overseas [even higher level ones like radiology and paralegal work] what good will all the exploration do of the faults of individuals or preaching that if a poor person acts like a rich one the cash will automatically appear?

It goes with the blame the victim mentality. Those who are rich, are "better" and the theme is that if you can get the poor to "think" and "act" like the rich, it will raise their socioeconomic level. How is that supposed to happen without money? Horatio Alger couldn't have pulled off a more incredible meritocracy stunt. Many of the churches are aligned with the elite in the oppression of the poor!

Jam 2:2 For if there come unto your assembly a man with a gold ring, in goodly apparel, and there come in also a poor man in vile raiment;
Jam 2:3 And ye have respect to him that weareth the gay clothing, and say unto him, Sit thou here in a good place; and say to the poor, Stand thou there, or sit here under my footstool:
Jam 2:4 Are ye not then partial in yourselves, and are become judges of evil thoughts?
Jam 2:5 Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him?