Wednesday, November 9, 2011

Church Outrage: The Schullers and Their Limos

Food request for Rev. Schuller's wife sparks outrage

I guess this tells us some of why Crystal Cathedral went bankrupt:

An email sent out to members of the Crystal Cathedral congregation requesting meals for founder Robert H. Schuller's wife Arvella, who is ill with pneumonia, is creating mixed feelings of sadness and outrage among members.

According to longtime member Jim McDonald, an email was sent out by administrators to Bible study groups as well as church elders, asking that meals for the reverend's wife be dropped off at the cathedral's Tower of Hope where the Schullers' limo drivers will be waiting to pick them up at the designated time.

Robert H. Schuller and Arvella Schuller seen here when they renewed their vows to celebrate their 50th wedding anniversary. A request that went out last week seeking meals for Arvella, who is ill with pneumonia, has sparked outrage among congregants. The church is currently in Chapter 11 bankruptcy awaiting a sale.

Member Bob Canfield says he was outraged when he got the message.

"These are millionaires who have limos and chauffeurs," he said. "Why in God's name would they want the congregants to deliver meals? It's ludicrous."

Looks like some of the church members are getting a clue. Hopefully this will lead at least some to repentance and departure from false teachers:
Canfield said he and other members of the congregation are upset the request came at a time when their church is in bankruptcy and information coming out through court documents has suggested that the Schullers took nearly $10 million from the church's endowment funds.

"They've completely depleted the church's funds," he said. "But they have shown that they have absolutely no remorse for what they've done. They're still being chauffeured around in limos. We, the congregants, have nothing."

Crystal Cathedral Ministries filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy Oct. 18. A judge is expected to approve a sale plan on Nov. 14. Both the cathedral's board and the creditors committee have named Chapman University as their preferred buyer. Chapman's offer stands at $51.5 million. The Roman Catholic Diocese of Orange has offered $53.6 million. However, the Chapman plan will allow the Schullers to remain and continue their ministry with a leaseback and buyback arrangement.

Jhn 10:13 The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep.


Labby said...

Could it be that they are asking for meals as a way of showing love and concern for her? I'm not sure?

I know with our church, we always set up a meal schedule for anyone that is ill. Hot meals delivered to their door at dinnertime to help them, but also to show love.

The limo thing is a bit much, but maybe they are detached from their members so as they do not want them coming to their door? Maybe they would be embarrassed at how lavishly they are living, or possibly they feel a bit of celebrity and want their privacy.

It is a shame that a "pastor" is so above and beyond the others, that a lovingly cooked meal would be picked up by a driver in such a detached way. Oh well...guess that happens when you elevate yourself in such a way.

Bible Believer said...

It does look like church sharing meals for someone who is ill, but yes it is elevation when the pastors say, oh you can't bring in here, we have to have our limo drivers bring it, so yes that is detachement. Also one draw-back of a celebrity pastor and his wife that obviously sees themselves as being above the little people. Yes it could be to hide how lavishly they are living, aka the 10 million dollars that is mentioned. Yes it's all very sad. I was hoping the place would close but it looks like the new "buyers" are going to let the false ministry continue.

clothedandinmyrightmind said...

A hireling cares only for his or her own comfort, not the wellbeing of the flock. With the money they presently have ($10M)they could easily order out or have a cook in residence. this kind of thing makes my stomach hurt about American Christianity.

Bible Believer said...

I agree, why burden their church members when they have plenty of money to easily have the food delivered or made by a cook in residence. They even have those independent chefs who will visit home to home now. It makes my stomach hurt too. What is sad are the people they are taking advantage of.

Andrew Johnson said...

I think Limousine is best thing to feel luxury, but it is quit expensive. Limousine for graduation party is my first experience in a limousine, i can't forget that time.