Now this is not saying that someone can repent and be born again--anyone can, as I came out of my own false churches. Even the worse sinner on the planet has salvation in Jesus Christ available to them if they repent.
For someone to be even in a Calvary Chapel and pastoring one and to remain there, they are accepting false pentecostalism, false pre-trib rapture teachings, Christian Zionism, pro-Middle Eastern crusades and the endless false teachings of Chuck Smith. They would need to repent and totally be born again, and actually walk away from the whole mess and related para-church organizations. Is there even one Calvary Chapel pastor that has ever left the system and started to honestly talk about it on a blog or elsewhere who didn't become more liberal?
How many Calvary Chapel pastors are "insider" types? I doubt they just take anyone off the street who says they are born again. With all the Cove visits and dress rules, my opinion is that independent thinkers are not allowed. Dissent is extrordinarily rare. I have not seen any speaking against the system Calvary Chapel preachers, and have gone to many of their websites, contrary to those who claim there are great numbers of Calvary Chapel preachers standing up against what is happening. I keep seeing this repeated all over the place, but no actual EVIDENCE. Hey I would like to be wrong but I doubt they'd last two minutes without having their church disfellowshiped. By the way, I do not just not want vague speeches about the Emergent movement and cults which are allowed in Calvary Chapel, but someone exposing Lausanne, and more and the false teachings of Chuck Smith. If someone would like to link to an example of this, you are welcome to in the comments. I would LOVE to see it. But even then as I have learned one has to be careful.
Sadly I found out Roger Oakland, was still doing conferences with Calvary Chapel pastors this year. Pastor Chik Chikeles heads up Calvary Chapel St. Paul. Can one say they have truly left a church system and still be working with those who are within it?
When I left the Catholic church, I did not hang out with priests and bishops. When I left the UU church, I wrote the UU pastor one letter saying I believed in God and rejected UUism and didn't go have a conference with UU pastors or invite one to speak at a meeting I was holding. What does it mean for someone to say, "I have left a church", and then invite one of the pastors of one of their big city churches to come and speak at their organization's meeting?
There was someone on this blog who commented on Roger Oakland still being involved with conferences and Calvary Chapel pastors, but their postings were befuddled with too many side issues. I am sorry I did not listen sooner but I am only human. There is part of all of us who want to believe the best of people. Tired of the sheer number of hirelings, I wanted to believe one guy had truly gone against the stream but as I have said on this blog never totally trust anyone 100% except for Jesus Christ. That means even test everything you read on my website too. I am just an average person exposing what I find out, some of which is NOT easy to find out. People of course will fail, all of us, but when you see a pattern is when you know something is very OFF.
Roger Oakland also went to this conference this year, I have heard the name Caryl Matrisciana before. In doing research for this blog on other things, her name has cropped up multiple times before.
The origins of the SCP are grounded in the Christian counterculture movement (also known as the Jesus Movement or Jesus People) of the late 1960s. In 1968 some staff members of Campus Crusade for Christ conceived of the need to contextualize the Christian message for radical and revolutionary university students. The key figures were Jack Sparks and his wife, Patrick and Karry Matrisciana (also known as Caryl Matrisciana), Fred and Jan Dyson, Weldon and Barbara Hartenburg. In April 1969 Sparks and his colleagues commenced their ministry at the University of California, Berkeley, and along the famous street in Berkeley, Telegraph Avenue.
This blog has exposed problems with Campus Crusade for Christ before. Webwide that is one organization that has been connected to everything ecumenical for YEARS!
For the past 23 years Caryl was the Creative and Marketing Director for Jeremiah Films, a Southern California film company, a leader in documentary film production and video distribution. She was instrumental in the research and production of many of the films covering a myriad subjects and also narrated many of them.
Caryl's 2003 video release Supernatural Powers: The Battle between Good and Evil was praised as the continuum to her 1990 cutting-edge documentary entitled Halloween: Trick or Treat. As well as co-producing and researching the latter, Caryl co-hosted it, the first of a thirteen part series, with Pastor Chuck Smith of Calvary Chapel
In 1975, Caryl founded Deo Gloria Trust's counter cult organization in London, England, acting as its chief cult researcher. She became recognized as one of Europe's most prominent cult experts supplying information to BBC radio and TV, and the ITV. She furnished facts to published authors and journalists for numerous periodicals worldwide including Newsweek, The London Times, Observer, Telegraph, Guardian, and London's Evening Standard. Caryl met regularly and spoke in the House of Commons with Britain's Members of Parliament and government officials. At the request of European Members of Parliament, she provided vital research and information, which contributed to the passing of the European Resolution on cults in 1984.
Caryl organized international conferences in England and Europe to educate those concerned about the social dangers posed by cults. The outcome of these and other conferences where she spoke, her public speaking at schools and churches, her interaction with media, and involvement with various committees (e.g. The 1978 International Conference in Pattaya, Thailand, sponsored by the Lausanne Commission on World Evangelism) qualified Caryl to establish numerous parent and church-based support groups for cult victims and their families, throughout the UK, Europe and America. Caryl's more than 20 years of personal experiences in counseling hundreds of cult members and their families has enabled many of them to re-establish their lives and relationships after involvement with coercive and manipulative groups.
This person definitely is high up in the "Christian" circles. She is acceptable in the halls of power obviously. Her working with Lausanne is of concern unless she has repented of this and her work for a well known "Christian" movie company, also can be researched. Now ask yourself this, if the big names are still inviting you to their conferences, are you considered an "outsider"? Look at who Jeremiah Films is connected with.
I can see keeping old friends, but some of this is worrisome to me. Now my beliefs regarding separation may be different, I can understand keeping friends from your old church that hopefully you keep warning--often God may even have you end friendships as I lost some friends leaving false churches, but doing seminars with them, and the rest, well, I just do not get it.
Now a change of subject:
Let me ask readers a question, would you be OK with this picture if it was on the banner of a blog and saw it paired with two pictures of bloody thorns and bloody feet? This was coupled with a photo of someone with one of their eyes darkened out too. Did any of you see this on those websites? These are not run by Roger Oakland, but someone else who has written for his website [posting link for information] and Roger Oakland has linked to these sites. Was I overreacting to be upset by this picture? I do not think so. If Roger Oakland sees this, hey maybe he just never noticed, perhaps he can ask this person why they would choose such a picture on their blog.
Why on earth would any "Christian" use such a horrible picture? The cross is stabbing right in the middle of the Bible and covering it in blood. Paired with two other as gorey as they could make it pictures, I was horrified the first day I saw this. Hasn't this guy ever read Hebrews 6:6?
Even if someone is exposing the "Jesuits" too, that doesn't mean giving them 100% trust. I will say this, finding out these things was very disappointing. These weren't things I wanted to find out.