[for spiritual survival, I'd put that number at 5%]
2Ti 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
Some time ago, I asked myself why do all these apostate pastors seem so much the same, in thinking, outlook and operations? Why so little individuality? Why so little interest in testing things? Why so much falling away, to where even in the mainline churches, some of them seem to be functional agnostics? I knew the answer lied in how they were being "trained" in a way where conformity ruled. Part of me really believes that if someone is truly born again, and desiring to preach to others, that they would weed someone out like that fast. One thing to ask yourself is where in the Bible did any Christian teachers get years of "seminary" and "spiritual formation" to go out and teach to anyone? I'd rather listen to a humble truly born again man, preach on the Word which he truly loves and never has stepped foot in a classroom rather then some of these endlessly educated sorts, who conform so much to the world.
Some time back then I found myself, actually going to seminary websites, and reading what classes they had on the lists, lots of vain philosophy, "church history" based on Rome's version of the "facts", false "psychology" and over-all promotion of the global program. I wanted to see what they were teaching them and how it was playing out on the church stage.
Notice something about this list? It's got the whole globalist taint to it all and trust me they aren't the only ones.
Fuller Theological Seminary has set the following institutional goals. Students will:
Engage in the study of the Bible, theology and spirituality in a way that contributes to following their vocation
Through reflection become aware of the global nature of the Church and how it engages society in local contexts. Become attentive to the diverse nature of the Church and the world and practiced in engaging with it.
Be equipped to pursue their vocation
Become spiritually formed and committed to the Church’s mission in the world.
Fuller Theological Seminary Student Learning Outcomes:
Graduates will demonstrate an understanding of Christian theology, ministry, and spirituality.
Graduates will be aware of and critically engage ecclesial, societal, and global issues from Christian theological perspectives and demonstrate the ability to make informed choices toward positive change.
Graduates will demonstrate the ability to identify critical issues of diversity and make appropriate responses.
Graduates will be able to pursue careers consistent with their education.
Graduates will demonstrate the integration of Christian spiritual formation and character.
I have no objections to folks studying a wide range of things, I like to study history myself, better to be informed then not, but it's interesting to go look at the courses future pastors get, now let's look at Biola [I chose them at random] everyone know's Fuller is one of the most liberal ones out there, so decided to pick one seen in the middle, and look at the courses:
Well one class is named "Social Justice & Human Rights", well "justice" is a good thing but we know that sort of class could be used for other agendas including imparting the false social justice gospel, While Biola has some classes on the Bible and traditional stuff, what would a class named "BIOS 305 - Global Development and Ecological Sustainability" impart? Would being against Agenda 21, get you tossed out of that class? Globalism seems a given in the class names:
"BUSN 344 - Global Marketing Management
Focus on the formulation of global marketing management strategies. Presents a conceptual overview of the world market environment, including issues related to culture and diversity. The managers’ perspective is analyzed with regard to market entry methods and the various barriers that could impact international business. Prerequisite(s): 230. Upper division standing. Unit(s): 3."
Would you get tossed out of that class for being against outsourcing? Then there is this one.
and this: [you know about my warnings about the World Christian Movement and what it entails]
INCS 440 - The Local Church and World Missions
Designed to integrate principles of cross-cultural communication and theology and strategy of missions within a total conceptual framework to aid the local church in mission involvement, including approaches to mission education, mobilization, organization, and leadership; disciple making, prayer, and member care; partnerships, church-based teams, and responding to contemporary global issues. Unit(s): 3.
INCS 446 - Expansion of the World Christian Movement
The historical development and spread of the Christian faith from the apostolic period until today. Emphasis is given to the modern era, especially growth dynamics in the Global South (non-Western world). Unit(s): 3.
Then you see the "leadership" stuff, why does it sound like Rick Warren wrote some of these class descriptors, overused word "equipping"
CEED 254 - Leadership Development
Overview of biblical and contemporary leadership theories applied to personal leadership development and the equipping of volunteer leaders within the local church. When Offered: Spring. Unit(s): 3.
Just so you know, spiritual formation is considered a Catholic concept. In other words, Christians have the Holy Spirit teach and "form" them, a class or being taught by others isn't going to do it.
"CEED 255 - Foundations of Spiritual Formation
This course will provide a biblical overview of the fundamentals of developing and maintaining a deep and abiding relationship with God through theological, integrative and experiential perspectives. When Offered: Fall. Unit(s): 3."
and then there is a class, where you are actually supposed to "get" a spiritual director which is called:
"TTSF 505 - Talbot Spiritual Direction A personal experience is required in Spiritual Direction at the Center for Spiritual Renewal at ISF. Course provides students the opportunity to explore their life of prayer and growth with a trained mentor or spiritual director from the Institute for Spiritual Formation. Prerequisite(s): TTSF 501 (or concurrent enrollment). Spiritual Formation Focus course; not open to ISF students. Note(s): Two semesters of spiritual direction must be completed between the second and the end of the fourth semester. Students are required to meet with an approved spiritual director a minimum of 4 times per semester....."
And what is this NEW WORLD stuff?
TTMN 849 - Growing Ministries in the “New World” I
Explores the challenges and opportunities for church growth and multiplication in the post-modern context. Analyzes the theology, procedures, and methods of new movements and emerging models. Students will be introduced to the procedures for writing a book manuscript for publication. Unit(s): 6.
Other interesting ones included "Faith in the Public Square" [CSAP 645]and the odd fact they have a class that warns about Mormonism [CSAP 655]but not Catholicism. Then there is the CS Lewis Seminar [CSAP 693]. Would one be tossed out of the room for declaring that CS Lewis was a proto-Catholic? LOL There are endless leadership classes: CSOL 550 Leadership Challenge, CSOL 610 Leadership & Group Behavior, CSOL 615 Persuasive Communication, perhaps some of these are meant for the business majors, but it's interesting to note. This class descriptor says it all
PHIL 302 - Medieval Philosophy
The history and philosophy in the West from Augustine to William of Occam, with special emphasis upon Augustine and Thomas Aquinas. In contrast to 212, the lower division course which covers the same period, this course is designed for students who have already taken at least one course in philosophy and are expected to achieve at a higher level of learning. Unit(s): 3.
Why the SPECIAL emphasis on Thomas Aquinas who by the way, helped with Rome's Inquisitions? Remember what I wrote about him here?
While these are just a few classes out of others that are basic major areas and academics, I hope you can see where I am going with this. If you get the time, take a quick glance at some other seminary class lists and what the future pastors are being taught, it is quite revelatory.
The best pastors, in my opinion aren't ones who have long lists of divinity degrees, in fact the ones who are more educated, seem to be the ones who have become more apostate. Now do not get me wrong, I am not against education and learning, but you must know these schools have an agenda being sold to the idealistic well meaning youth who are entering their doors to become future pastors. There is a reason that seminaries are referred to as cemeteries
That said, they are training the men who are already pastors, seeking to influence and dissuade them. One of the worse examples I found was THIS. This is from Lausanne, which is Billy Graham's organization, and has many para church organizations and meetings. I have warned about Lausanne here.
This shows an example of some of the "training" pastors would get at this group...this is from a paper entitled "LOP 24: Cooperating in World Evangelization: A Handbook on Church/Para-Church Relationships"
As one reads through this, one can see even the subtle mind-control at play, focusing on unity above all else and more. There is a lot of mind-control, programming, and more being done on the human mind. Can you see the "script" being sold?
One paragraph addresses "AN INDIFFERENT ATTITUDE TO UNITY" but underneath that is the interesting self examination list given to pastors, you can see that this teaches the exact opposite of biblical separation under the title "The Harmfulness of Strained Relationships", the paper later devolves into odd defenses of Catholicism and Luther's misdirected church organizational skills but I'll let you see some of these questions for yourselves, and think about how these are used to push the false unity message and shut down all dissent. This one is kind of funny as one imagines sirens going off, every time someone manages an independent thought.....
"3. Who is there, close to me, who can "flash a red light" each time I engage in disparaging talk about another church or Christian leader?"
Yes they train them never to speak any critical word of another church, I guess for the ecumenists this would include Rome.
5. Do I feel my denomination or organisation is more prestigious (longer history, larger size, etc.) than others? If so, is this reflected in my having a chip on my shoulder? Have I prayed about my attitude?
8. Am I considered a strong personality? If so, do I have difficulty getting along with other strong personalities? Which one will I try to build a bridge with today?
The underlying message, no strong personalities wanted....
11. Do I see the furthering of Christian unity merely as an optional extra? If everyone were as active as I, would the Church make much progress in this direction?
13. Do people know me as a peace-maker or a trouble-maker? Am I aware of some friction where God could use me to restore harmony? Have I prayed that the door may, open?
I guess "trouble makers" would be people who actually speak out.
Take a look at the rest of the list, it's all about being a blind follower of unity and "being with the program".
This is just a small snippet of things they are teaching the pastors, there are many magazines, and other writings out there, including Leadership Journal and the huge number of pastoral meetings and seminars, if you ever get the time, and happen to be in a Christian book store, or even online flip through one of these things, you can see what is making these pastors into what they are. What is done to the mind of men who are told to see themselves as these wondrous leaders over and over?
Speaking of leaders...who seem to desire "followers" don't forget this verse...
1Cr 7:23 Ye are bought with a price; be not ye the servants of men.
The seminaries are infiltrated, I did a blog entry on the Jesuit-influenced in Calvary Chapel, well you can find interesting members of the board all over the place. While doing research for this article, searching for "seminaries" I found this. This SDA person discovered out and out Jesuits on the board at the accrediting agency of their SDA school:
"And now control of the curriculum has passed into the hands of the La Compañía de Jesús (Jesuit Order).
The Seminary's Board of Supervisors includes leading Jesuit scholars. (see at right) http://www.ats.edu/Accrediting/Pages/OffcBrd.aspx The seminary professors have done a thorough work in implementing the Catholic curriculum, as confirmed in a 2009 comprehensive evaluation. http://www.ats.edu/MemberSchools/Pages/SchoolDetail.aspx?ID=194"
No surprises there given the truth about the Seventh Day Adventist church being a daughter of Rome but then look AGAIN...This ATS group doesn't just accredit small SDS colleges, but LOTS OF OTHERS AS WELL. Biola isn't on this list, but lots of OTHER EVANGELICAL AND OTHER SEMINARIES ARE INCLUDING FULLER and ones like REGENT and ORAL ROBERTS UNIVERSITY SCHOOL OF THEOLOGY.
I don't have room to include the entire LIST, but I'll show you a snippet, go to the list to see ALL of them. Here is the list direct from ATS itself too.
AT least TWO JESUIT INFLUENCED-CONNECTED on the BOARD....[I added the yellow highlighting and arrows]
That's kind of scary considering this group is in charge of "accredidating" such a wide range of seminaries including evangelical ones.
Don't forget Lausanne, behind the scenes is a Catholic influenced enterprise when you get right down to it, a trojan horse fueled by Billy Graham who never made a secret of his ecumenical views towards Rome.
There is a reason that Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas are being so stressed in that one class at Biola, I wouldn't doubt that happening in many other schools too.
The pastors are being "Trained" for the Antichrist one world church. Very few aren't going with the program. Those pastors who are not born again, and look to programs, world unity and global enterprises, are leading their flocks down the path to perdition. I asked this before, but I do sometimes wonder if any pastors are reading a blog like this? I know most of ones in the "system" are told 'discernment' websites are 'bad' and 'divisive". If you are a pastor who is going against the flow to Rome, come and comment here....