Turns out the Seventh Day Adventist Church is one of the fastest growing denominations out there.
"Adventists' back-to-basics faith is fastest growing U.S. church"
While I believe there are some well meaning and good people in the Seventh Day Adventist movement, and Bible prophecy books from SDA teachers, can be of historical and other interest to read, I got Uriah Heep on my shelf from 100 years ago [read with caution like you would any book from any false religionist], it is another false church and false "religion', and yes another "daughter".
The Seventh Day Adventist church does hold many false teachings. One of the worse is baptismal regeneration where baptism "saves" you among a wide array of false teachings. In fact one of the worse things to me about SDA, is the pseudo-'sacrament" and "church" based "salvation" that is so promoted, where instead of a relationship with Jesus Christ being first and foremost, they push rules, rituals and the "church" as being the center of salvation. Who else does that sound like?
To help us understand how God can transform us into His children, Jesus modeled the process of baptism for us. Baptism symbolized dying to self and coming alive in Jesus. Seventh-day Adventists practice full immersion baptism because by being fully buried beneath the water we symbolize that God's grace fully fills us with His new life for the future. Through baptism we are truly born again in Jesus
What troubles me is I have seen some people view this church as like a fundamentalist church and in some ways they appear to be so, with a strong interest in bible prophecy, close knit congregations and in some churches very caring people, but sadly their legalism can be as damaging as Rome's. I've met people who have encountered this legalism full force. In two towns, I've lived in they have made sent out very colorful brochures like this one, speaking of Bible prophecy, this can be a very good way, to draw people in the community who take such an interest in things.
There was a few times, I had to inform nominal Christians, that church teaches false things! I even had other Christian "fundamentalist" friends attend SDA churches due to proximity and thinking this was another typical but very conservative Christian church who I ended up having to warn. One listened, another was not very happy with me.
It's not a "normal" Christian church, it has a Jezebel in the mix and her name was Ellen White:
Rev 2:20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.
By the way I've read many of her books before, this was when I was still in the Catholic church, and was reading a variety of evangelical materials this included her book "The Great Controversy" which you can take a look at here. The book seems to be a huge mix of extreme Bible prophecy but sadly with lots of subtle deception and not so subtle. One can tell how many Adventists ended up with that problem with date-setting. While some SDA people claim that Ellen White's writings are not equal to scripture and thusly do not break the commandment not to add to God's Word, definitely they are held with an elevated status within the SDA church. She IS seen as a Prophetess.
Here the SDA church website writes this about Ellen White:
We, the delegates to the 2010 General Conference Session in Atlanta, Georgia, acknowledge with gratitude the continuing contribution to the Seventh-day Adventist Church found in the writings and ministry of Ellen G White. We are witnesses to how the Church has been blessed and guided by God through the inspired counsel of His messenger. Her counsels exalt the Bible as the Word of God, lift up Jesus as Creator and Redeemer of the world, and encourage a life of service and sacrifice. Her ministry has directly aided in the preservation of unity in the Church and its expanding global outreach.
The gift of prophecy, like the other spiritual gifts, is to bring about unity, equip God's people for the work of ministry, build up the body of Christ, protect it from being deceived by false doctrine, and foster individual and collective spiritual growth (Ephesians 4:11-15). We recognize in Ellen G White the gift of prophecy, and affirm that as this gift is valued and its instruction heeded, the Church prospers.
Then there is the issue of the sabbath. I believe Saturday actually IS the more accurate day for the Jewish sabbath, but while sabbath keeping was important under the time of the law in the OT for the Jews, the New Testament says differently...
Col 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath [days]:
I have even read SDA websites and materials, that claim going to church on Sunday, is the "mark of the beast" and suppose that would fall under "judgement". Here we end up with legalism married to Old Testament sabbath keeping.
There are many more false teachings then this, but realize many of the foundations of SDA rest on "law-keeping" even to their many very strongly suggested dietary restrictions which includes vegetarianism. Odd that, given Jesus Himself ate meat and would have eaten lamb even as part of the Passover supper in Luke 22.
A couple years I went and found out, something else about the SDA I found very interesting. I believe all cults are Rome bound, and Rome derived as we are warned of in the Bible, "mother of all abominations" all the way back to Mystery Babylon. One formula that has never failed is researching the links to Rome and thus to the United Nations and one world church, when it comes to cults. The thing about SDA that is so interesting is how they try to pull the wool over their member's eyes so deliberately. Realize I am talking about the main SDA church, they do have their off-shoot/dissenter churches [their own version of Trads] as well. They tell the people in the pews, the UN is the Beast, in many a church publication and even one of their more popular speakers warns about the UN [Veith is said to disagree with the ecumenism] but then behind the scenes maintain UN involvement.
See here too:
"A Statement on Religious Freedom
For more than a century Seventh-day Adventists have been active promoters of religious freedom. We recognize the need to champion freedom of conscience and religion as a fundamental human right, in harmony with the instruments of the United Nations."
This goes for Rome directly too by the way, I have seen SDA magazines for myself, that warn about the Marian apparitions being of the devil, but then finding out the role the main SDA church had with Rome was interesting, it centered around a man named Dr. Bert Beach who has been VERY involved with the Vatican, and even visited with the last Pope as exposed here, on a dissenting EX-SDA website.
Beach was even part of the Vatican II Council...
Dr. Bert Beach got his Assisi invite too, in 2002: [From "List Of Those Attending Assisi Peace Conference VATICAN, Jan 17, 02 (CWNews.com)]
"The Orthodox churches of the world will send 11 patriarchs to Assisi, led by the Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew I of Constantinople. But no representative of the Moscow patriarchate is expected. About 50 Islamic leaders will attend, coming from Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, Egypt, Iran, the Philippines, and Jordan. And Jewish rabbis will come from Jerusalem, France, and the United States-- along with Elio Toaff, the former chief rabbi of Rome. Protestant bodies will be represented by Konrad Kaiser, the secretary-general of the World council of Churches; Anglican Bishop Richard Garrard of Rome; Setri Nyomi of the World Alliance of Reformed Churches; George Freeman of the World Methodist Council; Cecil Robeck of the Pentecostal church; Alvin Jackson of the Disciples of Christ; Theodor Angelou of the European Baptist Federation; and Bert Beach of the Seventh-Day Adventists."
Obviously this man had high standing in the SDA church for many years:
"World Church: Book of Essays, Dinner, Honor Retiring Church Statesman
June 21, 2005 Silver Spring, Maryland, United States .... [ANN Staff]
Paying tribute to decades of interfaith effort, friends and leaders of the Seventh-day Adventist Church and others gathered at the church's world headquarters June 16 to honor Dr. Bert B. Beach, director of inter-church relations for the movement.
"Building Bridges of Faith and Freedom," a Festschrift, or celebratory publication, honoring Dr. Beach was released at the dinner. It is believed to be the first such tribute published by a world church department.
The book features essays on religious freedom and Dr. Beach's work in that area. Contributors include president of the United Nations' Human Rights Committee, Abdelfattah Amor; Cardinal Walter Kasper, president of the Vatican Council for the Promotion of Christian Unity; Rosa Maria Martinez de Codes, former vice director for religious affairs in Spain's Justice Ministry, and Rev. Sven Oppegaard, Assistant General Secretary for Ecumenical Affairs of the Lutheran World Federation, among others.
"I've had a wonderful life," Dr. Beach, who will end his five decades of service to the world church this year, said in response to tributes from Pastor Jan Paulsen, world president of the Adventist Church, Dr. Denton Lotz, general secretary of the Baptist World Alliance, and others.
"Bert B. Beach made a difference in the history of his church," Pastor Paulsen wrote in the book. "He pioneered interchurch relations. He helped his church to look beyond its own borders to the brother, the neighbor, the stranger who was also created by God."
Beach, who began his church career as an educator, rose to the position of executive secretary of the Adventist church's Western European and West African regions, before embarking on a 15-year career as director of public affairs and religious liberty and, recently, director of inter-church relations. Under his aegis, the Adventist Church has held high-level consultations with the Lutheran World Federation, The Salvation Army and other communities. He was, for 32 years, secretary of the Conference of Secretaries of the Christian World Communions, an interfaith body uniting 2 billion Christians around the globe.
"If today most of the Christian leaders recognized us as a Christian Church, it is the result of [Beach's] persistent and outstanding relations with other Christian leaders," added Dr. John Graz, public affairs and religious liberty director for the world church.
Beach's writings are mentioned in this lukewarm statement regarding ecumenism from the official [mainstream] SDA church.
The SDA in their magazine Liberty, if you ever see a copy, check it out, it constantly beats on the "religious freedom" drum but that is a term used by Rome as well...you can see how their events become an opportunity for far more ecumenism and very highbrow elite meetings. Could I be far off the mark, to see the SDA as just another typical new world order involved church?
The evening's 200-plus guests included members of the diplomatic community; the U.S. State Department; three members of Congress (Reps. Roscoe Bartlett [Maryland], Charles Rangel [New York], and Sheila Jackson-Lee [Texas], nongovernmental organizations; and religious leaders from a variety of faith communities.
During his welcome Elder Ted N. C. Wilson, president of the Seventh-day Adventist world church, reminded guests that religious liberty is part of the "DNA of the Adventist Church." He reaffirmed the church's longstanding commitment to promote such freedom for all people, no matter their faith tradition.
Three advocates of religious freedom were also honored at the dinner:
Norway's former bishop of Oslo Gunnar Stålsett received the International Award for his lifetime of efforts in promoting peace and reconciliation between people of different faith traditions.
Kit Bigelow, former external affairs director for the National Spiritual Assembly of Baha'is, received the National Award for her 25 years of human rights advocacy, both at the United Nations and in Washington.
Edwards Woods III, director of the Lake Region chapter of the North American Religious Liberty Association, received this year's A. T. Jones medal for his grassroots activism in building up religious liberty support across Michigan, Illinois, Wisconsin, and Indiana.
Toward the end of the evening, Knox Thames, director of policy and research at the United States Commission on International Religious Freedom, gave a poignant tribute to the late Shahbaz Bhatti, a member of the Pakistani president's cabinet who was gunned down outside of his mother's home after speaking out against the country's controversial blasphemy laws. Thames was a personal friend of Bhatti's, and had helped him connect with Washington lawmakers during the Pakistani minister's recent trips to the nation's capital.
Hmm...interesting it mentions Bhatti,given he was named a Martyr by the Pope in my recent URI post. I do not know much about him or what happened to him, but it's interesting he was the focus of the Fr. Channan[URI] and Pope meeting in April.
Oh here is another article from Liberty magazine too, praise for the pope and odd paragraphs like this."The American Advent of Pope Benedict XVI"
"His trip is proof, too, that not only has there been a massive healing in the great Protestant- Catholic divide, but that many Protestants see the Papacy no longer as an enemy but, in many cases, as an ally in the numerous political/moral issues that mean a lot to them. This is a radical change, one that could have profound implications for the political future of this country.
In short, Pope Benedict XVI’s visit is another symbol of an amazing historical shift in American and Protestant attitudes toward a political-religious institution that for many years had been viewed as antithetical to all that Americanism and Protestantism stood for. Even more amazing is how Protestants themselves have been the most eager ones to reach across that gulf and embrace Rome. What that change means for American politics can be monumental in scope. History is being made; it’s just hard to see it as such when you are right there as it is taking place."
The SDA, just another daughter of Rome...[I pray the one's in the dissenting churches who see some truth, also realize the false system over-all that they have entered]