Where I talk about the Patriarchy Movement.
and "The Duggars, Bill Gothard and Vision Forum"
This video is right about the moral breakdown in society, and how there is age division in the churches but their answer is WRONG...They are a new trend called THE FAMILY INTEGRATED Church which has come out of the patriarchy movement.
Divided: Is Age-Segregated Ministry Multiplying or Dividing the Church?There is a crisis. Christian youth are rapidly leaving evangelical churches for the world. This well-recognized disaster has been the topic of significant discussion in recent years for both church leaders and modern news media. DIVIDED follows young Christian filmmaker Philip LeClerc on a revealing journey as he seeks answers to what has led his generation away from the church. Traveling across the country conducting research and interviewing church kids, youth ministry experts, evangelists, statisticians, social commentators, and pastors, Philip discovers the shockingly sinister roots of modern, age-segregated church programs, and equally shocking evidence that the pattern in the Bible for training future generations is at odds with modern church practices. He also discovers a growing number of churches that are abandoning age-segregated Sunday school and youth ministry to embrace the discipleship model that God prescribes in His Word.
From the Divided website...
Is family integration more important than the gospel? (Show Answer)
The issue of age-integrated discipleship and how it relates to every ministry in church life is not of central importance. However, what makes the issue extremely important is that it drives a discussion about something that is central – the authority of Jesus Christ in His Church. It causes us to ask a most important question: “Are the words of Christ sufficient?” “Has he spoken enough to us in order to govern ministry to youth and families and the lost?” This divisive issue raises hackles that must be tamed by Scripture alone.
I can tell this stuff is growing out there seen as an answer to the "modern" churches but instead of freedom of each believer following the Holy Spirit, they put forth patriarchy as the answer..where they teach every child or grown adult child is to obey their earthly father blindly and wives are to be blindly obedient to husbands.
We long to see churches reformed. This will cause a generation to be rescued from this world and grasped from the jaws of the lion (1 Pet. 5:8). Therefore, we cry out for churches to do their part, for fathers to disciple their children, for churches not to usurp the authority of the family, for families to be a part of the church in a biblical fashion and not forsake her, for children to honor their parents — ultimately, for both church and family to return to the Word of God in obedience and not add or subtract from it in all that it says.
This vision involves reformation of the church and family, and it cannot be accomplished without the mighty working of God. Pray for a reformation, and put in the effort to see it through. James 2:17 says, “Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.”
Family Integrated churches are STRONGLY linked to Dominionism as well. Vision Forum which I have written about before in this blog entry "The Duggars, Bill Gothard and Vision Forum" definitely goes together with the Family Integrated stuff.
I know several homeschoolers and I know this stuff is entering those groups like gangbusters, influencing them very strongly as well, with idealized notions about the "perfect" family. If you know folks who speak of "courting", having their daughters be "Stay At Home Daughters" and who teach that even adult children must obey their earthly fathers, or that wives must submit unquestioningly to their husband, chances are you have encountered some of these groups.
Why all the stress on parental authority and authority of the family? I suppose patriarchy could definitely set things up to have more totalitarian thinkers who can be more easily controlled by the system. It is odd to me watching this whole Dominionist Christian culture grow from outside, we got the liberal evangelical world and then this one, which is just as false...
There are many well meaning "Christians" who are being drawn into this culture, which speaks of a perfected "Christian world" with moral values being held up, nothing wrong with that but it is an advancement of the culture wars lies, and actually leading many into self-righteousness, legalism, and a religious system built on false traditions and family biological ties instead of reaching out to unbelievers and following the Holy Spirit. The approach towards women is scary and I wrote about that on my Patriarchy article in more full depth.
Who is Philip LeClerc? the one behind this film. He seems to have a very strange look to his eyes...well some of you will know what I mean and may see it too.
He has been featured on the Vision Forum website....
He has Vision Forum linked on his personal blog.
Don't forget Vision Forum gave even Michelle Duggar a mother of a year award.
Now some may think this is just a fringe movement, I believe it is growing, in Christian magazines, writings and other circles, I am seeing its strong influences, including even in many fundamentalist churches. I notice a strong collusion with the politicians and other movers and shakers involved in this movement, don't forget even with the Council for Biblical Manhood and Womanhood, [basically a patriarchy outfit] they have some high level well known Christian right leaders on there.
From another article to help people get a grasp on what I am talking about...even though this is from a secular non-Christian website, they are right about it's facets...
Recently I was looking at a thread on a Web forum for women who’d escaped from the Quiverfull/Christian Patriarchy (QF/CP) movement. For those unfamiliar with QF/CP, it’s a faction within fundamentalist Christianity, some of whose proponents are Doug Phillips of Vision Forum, Mary Pride, R.C. Sproul, Jr., Voddie Bauchum, and Nancy Campbell. It’s been popularized by the Duggar family’s TV reality show (they have 19 children at the time of this writing), and made infamous by Rusty Yates who, goaded by a fanatical minister, coerced his clinically psychotic wife Andrea to continue having baby after baby until she finally snapped in June, 2001, drowning her five children in the bathtub of their Houston home. (Rusty went on to remarry and is now siring replacement children.)
The word “Quiverfull” is taken from Psalm 127: 4, 5, which reads:
As arrows are in the hand of a mighty man; so are children of the youth. Happy is the man that hath his quiver full of them: they shall not be ashamed, but they shall speak with the enemies in the gate.
In a nutshell, the QF/CP movement bans all forms of birth control; families should have “as many children as God gives them.” These children are homeschooled for the most part, in the hopes that they’ll become an army of the Lord’s mighty warriors who, through sheer demographic force, reclaim America for God. Females are kept in perpetual servitude from earliest childhood, where they are considered the property of their fathers and spend their days caring for younger siblings. When a girl reaches puberty she must pledge her virginity/purity to her father (often in writing). Once the father finds a suitor to his liking, he transfers his ownership of the young lady to her husband. Adult women in the movement are not allowed to work outside the home, and usually forbidden to speak in church (obviously, they can never be ordained!). And based upon a quirky interpretation of an obscure biblical passage (Isaiah 3:12), they are also forbidden to vote.
Lurking beneath the QF/CP lifestyle lies the teachings of R.J. Rushdoony, the leading exponent of a dire and militant form of Calvinism called “Christian Reconstructionism.” In his massive tome Institutes of Biblical Law, he advocated the overthrow of modern democracy, replacing it with a theocratic state in which all the laws of Leviticus are imposed (including the death penalty for disobedient children, adulterers and homosexuals). Also, as per his reading of the Bible, the theocratic state would reintroduce slavery. Hard-line QF/CP believers think that creating a population explosion of their own is the most effective means of bringing this dystopic vision to fruition.
I know even trying to talk about the deceptions here, is not easy, I believe in people living moral lives in obedience to God, [though directed via the leading of the Holy Spirit, but not via government or demands of a would-be Christian biological father on earth as an adult]. Homeschooling is good too, as well as many other things, but can you see how a false view of "Christianity" is being skewed and used for evil ends and control here? These Vision Forum/Family Integrated leaders use a lot of biblical language, but it is for naught, it is being used for an evil agenda. Remember Vision Forum supports the 7 Mountains Concept as well.
more from the movie...[this is an excerpt from Divided where Doug Phillips of Vision Forum speaks...]
Notice how he elevates the "father" of families...desiring more patricharcy, and talks about children leaving behind their parents. Many Christians have parents who were not even Christians to start with.
Never forget the two sides against the middle set up that is used for deception all the time.
Luk 13:27 But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all [ye] workers of iniquity.