Thursday, July 7, 2011

The Coming Global Economic Collapse?


I remember years ago Bible prophecy folks talking about a "world economic collapse", such a thing was deemed impossible even 20 years ago, but now as the world economy has gotten more interwoven by the global elites, the possibility of a collapse looms.

The Sovereign Debt Crisis Is Never Going To End Until There Is A Major Global Financial Collapse

Rev 6:6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and [see] thou hurt not the oil and the wine.

12 comments:

Anonymous said...

The "measure of wheat for a penny" and the "three measures of barley for a penny" symbolize the selling of bread that is believed to give "life". It symbolizes vain religion and priesthood that hands out a daily dole of "eternal life" in exchange for "righteousness" that is as filthy rags--worth little. This priesthood are merchants of deceit. That daily dole is a counterfeit to the daily Manna we receive from the True Eternal Life which is from the Word of the I AM:

17 To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, Rev. 2:17b

His Manna is not a visible Manna. It is "hidden", and this Word is written within the hearts and minds of those who are raised up in Jesus Christ new creatures in His image, the image of His Righteousness, not theirs.

That counterfeit is a physical "manna" characterized as a "bread of life" given by a priesthood that uses scales of "life" to balance one's righteousness. This "scale" is really taken from paganism, as we see that it is the Egyptians' Osiris that holds these scales, upon which is measured the hearts of entrants against that of a feather. How much does a measure of one's own righteousness weigh? Satan fools many into believing that they can enter upon life with such a measure. That same priesthood who gives this measure, speaks of that same land of the dead ruled by Osiris, but this priesthood calls it "purgatory".

The "oil" and the "wine" are symbols also. The "oil" is the anointing of the Holy Spirit--the Seal that is the Earnest of our salvation--because of the Righteousness of Jesus Christ Himself--not ours. The "wine" is the Wine of the New Covenant--which speaks of Jesus Christ having fulfilled the law and righteousness on our behalf. Those who are of that Oil and of that Wine, shall not be harmed by the Deceiver.

I know that this is not the topic of your article, BB, but was responding to your Scripture quote. I believe that the same pre-trib rapture folks have distorted the use of this verse to mean what it does not mean--even if unknowingly, and sadly, many of the Elect have fallen for that deception. The last thing Satan wants is for people to know that the Revelation describes the last avatar of his Whore--the religion that is Satanic which calls itself after the name of Christ. Yes, curses upon our physical bread baskets are part of it the judgment against the world, but that does not pertain only to "end times". This kind of judgment has occurred in all ages as famine and want are certainly not new. Anon. #1

Bible Believer said...

That is ok Anon, for you to share your views about that Bible verse. I do believe a global economic collapse would be part of the tribulation. Speaking of the oil, do not hurt the oil and wine, one can be reminded of this verse too.

Mat 25:3 They that [were] foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them:

I agree with you about the scales, those who think they will get into heaven rejecting Jesus Christ having their good 'deeds" weighed against their bad ones.

You are right famine is not new. I will relook at the verse, I know I have to be careful considering the Pre-Trib training I just got away from last year. Do you believe a Tribulation is coming?

I also know a world economic collapse, could be manufactured by the elites to bring in their new global monetary system in fulfillment of Revelation 13.

Anonymous said...

Yes, I believe the tribulation is real, but I do not believe that tribulation means wrath. Tribulation means suffering, and suffering for the sake of the Gospel. One simply has to ask if there have been any who have suffered for the Gospel's sake since the Gospel came to earth to see that the entire Gospel Age--from its inception to the return of Christ--is the tribulation, and "great" tribulation would be the war against the saints waged by the beast ridden and controlled by the whore, a war which has been waged in earnest, as many were burned at the stake, tortured, violated, persecuted in unspeakable manner by the very whore which was prophesied in the Revelation. And they were also "economically" attacked by the whore, too. Ownership of lands, crops, houses, inheritances of any sort, were stripped from them. Today, she sits atop this mountain of loot as if she were blessed by it according to her own "godliness". Economic collapses are a dime a dozen during the Gospel Age, BB. Look at the Dark Ages--not called that for no reason, you know.

As for the economic collapse to come,sure, why not? It's just another in a long string. In fact, I believe that the powers that be have intentionally built that house of cards to collapse it (just as they did in the past, and they are some of the same people, too, still controlled by that same whore), so that in the end they intend--and I say "intend"--to be the last men standing in control of the earth, having rid themselves of the "riffraff". Their intent shall only fail, for merchants who try to buy their stairway to heaven, and merchants who control that rickety structure they built to collapse, shall in the end watch in horror--from hell, as they see the whore burning in everlasting fires. Yes, that whore upon which they placed all of their hopes and evil plans, shall in one hour be destroyed, and that destruction shall occur with the brightness of the coming of our King, our Sovereign, our Savior, Jesus Christ. To Him be the Glory, now and forever, Amen!

Again, this belief in a "future tribulation" is a lie of pre-tribulational rapturists, and calculated to deflect from who the true whore is. We are in it now, BB. That which remains of it has not yet occurred, but it has been occurring since the Gospel came to earth. The third woe is yet to come! Anon. #1

Tekhelet said...

Very interesting sharing Anon. Keep those comments coming. :)

Mijadedios said...

Satan's First lie seems to be the most perpetuated in all of history, "Ye shall not surely die." (Genesis 3:4)The matter of the World Economic "Collapse" I think it will happen but not they way we think. It almost is certain to happen because there has to be a 'shift' that causes all the world to accept "The Mark." and by "Mark" I mean "Mark" not a cool ap on your smart phone or an implantable chip, I mean the real mark that goes on the right hand or the forehead! C'mon ppl. Really? So "they" will crush the market, but not without a strategy and a means to implement this new economic system. Think about it, if the whole world is Globally connected, which it is, then who are the true enemies?

Anonymous said...

Just as the Revelation describes a spiritual condition, so the mark is a spiritual mark:

In order to understand what this "mark" is, we simply understand that the Antichrist counterfeits everything that Christ does. The "mark" of the Antichrist therefore is the opposite of the mark of the I AM. The mark of the I AM has been spoken of, for instance, in Ezekiel, where the foreheads of all those who cried out for sin were marked to protect them from the destroying angels. And it is spoken of in the Revelation, where those of Christ have His Name and the name of the city of the I AM written upon their foreheads.

But where can we find that people were marked on their "foreheads" and their "hands"? In the Old Testament, the I AM speaks of the Israelites wearing His Commandments between their eyes (the forehead) and upon their hands:

"And it shall be for a token (sign) upon thine hand, and for frontlets between thine eyes: for by strength of hand the Lord brought us forth out of Egypt."

Egypt is the symbol for sin, and when we are raised new creatures in Christ, we are raised from the dead, that is, we who were once dead in trespasses, are now in Everlasting Life. This grave of trespasses is "Egypt". And just as Israel crossed the Red Sea (baptized) and exited from it (raised up in new Life), and they were given the Laws of the I AM written on stone, His Commandments are now written upon our hearts and minds by the finger of the I AM.

"And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart: and thou shall teach them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up. And you shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes. And thou shalt write them upon the posts of thy house, and on thy gates." In Deut. 6

"Therefore shall ye lay up these my words in your heart and in your soul, and bind them for a sign upon your hand, that they may be as frontlets between your eyes." Deut. 11:18

It is the Laws that the Jews carried about in their frontlets and upon their hands (hands was a term that also meant arm). The hand or arm is what leads from the heart. So that the frontlet represents the mind, and the sign upon the hand, represents the heart.

Paul also described this:

"For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people..." Heb. 8:10

Paul was quoting from Jeremiah 31:33:

33But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

And Jeremiah was quoting from Deuteronomy, which I have quoted above.

Now that we know what the mark of the I AM is, His Laws written upon our minds and hearts, we may know what the Antichrist's "mark" or seal is: men's doctrines and traditions which are not the laws of the I AM, but their own laws. They follow these as their frontlets, and all to which they put their hands is marked by these false laws.

Anon. #1

Bible Believer said...
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Bible Believer said...

Anon #1 be careful of being led to see the mark as only something "spiritual", the Bible speaks of an actual item that impacts buying and selling and grievous sores that will come about.

How many could be fooled to take this chip, thinking it is only a spiritual mark. I did the research on this blog, and 666 is in the numeric codings for the chip or maybe even the scanned tattoos they have planned.

http://galatiansfour.blogspot.com/2010/10/mark-of-beast-refuse-it.html

Bible Believer said...

I found anons remarks about the Tribulation to be interesting. It is something I am thinking about what is the "timing" of the Trib? The Pre-tribbers tell us its all in the future, but what about the thousands that died in the Inquisitions, so interesting points Anon. Does it stretch back to when many died for the gospel even during the Middle Ages? Jesus does speak of the birth pangs towards the home stretch and Revelation brings up things that are to come later on [looks like she or he agrees with that] I believe they desire to collapse the world's economy too to institute their control grid for the Antichrist [Pope in Rome, we know how much they work hand in hand with the Beast and agents of "international law"] Anon you are right about Rome seeking after the destruction of economies, properties etc, it has been done to others for centuries and now being done world wide. Once I studied for another message board, how the RCC would seize property even of the families of "heretics" and if you grew too wealthy with lots of land and money, then life became very dangerous if they wanted to get their hands on it. America has been on the Vatican hitlist along with many other countries for centuries. So yes the Dark Ages too was done at their bidding and I can buy the long string, but I do believe there are "end goals" here the Antichrist has sought after and we see that coming to fulfilment with the one world religion and one world government growing and taking over the entire earth in fulfilment of bible prophecy. The Masons, secret societies, etc in service of the Pope have worked on all these plans for literal centuries and we see them built up to their final fruition.

Rev 17:13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.

It does look like you agree, with me in that they have built this economic house of cards to collapse on purpose, I definitely agree. It's all in service of their true master.

The one hour prophecy is of interest as well.

Rev 18:10 Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas, that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come.

Bible Believer said...

If one has the "frontlets" of God, they will not take the world's mark....[wanted to add that.

Deu 11:18 Therefore shall ye lay up these my words in your heart and in your soul, and bind them for a sign upon your hand, that they may be as frontlets between your eyes.

I believe when you take the "buy or sell" mark [be that chip, tattoo, or whatever form it takes] you have turned yourself into numbered property of the beast.

Of course there are spiritual elements behind someone taking the physical mark warned of in Revelation, they are marking themselves as "owned by Satan".

Tekhelet said...

I've not done a word search on the word mark but those who did say it is a literal mark, like a tattoo. I am of the opinion it could be a readable tattoo, something that allows for RFID (NFC) technology. If you look at technology today and where it is going, such as biometrics, data mining, cashless, RFID etc...it won't shock me that these techs will be abused by the Antichrist & gang.

BB you are right that we should be careful not to spirituals what the mark is.

On another note, Ive heard it said that it may also be a willful decision not to follow God, and hence take the mark of the beast. The person who said this, said that the technology for the mark, or the mark in and of itself doesn't do anything, but it is the choice made by the person which leads them to reject God and follow Satan. Just some food for thought.

Anon is also right that Satan counterfeits God, and I agree that God's words are written on our hearts and minds by His Spirit, a result of being born again. You guys can check out some meaty articles by a brother in Christ at www.matsati.com if you like.

LillieF said...

Reading about the recent news of an upcomming Global Economic Collapse does not suprise me as some have said here, it must happen for this new system which will be taking the mark of the beast is to be brought about. I do think it will be both a physical and a spirital thing. Think about it. Your kids have gone without food for days it is the same situation as Hurricane Katrina put the people in Lousinian in. In the Statium with no food or running water think about it...if your child was starving and you knew if you took that mark you would have plenty of food to feed your child. Lets be honest. There will be some willing to say ok I will take it I guess I will burn in hell for it but I dont want my son to starve. I want to be self sufficent by that time have plenty of animals and be growing vegetables and canning for a few years.
If you read the bible the word "rapture" is not actually in the bible. That is a word that the christians came up with. It does mean something similar to what the bible tells us Jesus will do. I have always thought that was interesting though.
Anyway, I am sleep deprived but hope I have made sense. I am not diluted enough to know realistically if my child was starving what would I do? Food for thought.