Wednesday, May 18, 2011

Social Disconnection Vs. Loving One Another

I've pondered this article for some time. It is a heavy issue. In my life I have very many friends and others who are blessings to me but here is a growing reality: Society is becoming more socially disconnected. Things are changing fast. This is becoming a very lonely nation. One thing I am noticing is that societal disconnect is growing far worse. The Bible actually warns about this as part of the last day's landscape:
Mat 24:12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.

There are many lives where economic pressures and other things have massively impacted social ties. Everyone over a certain age, has felt this, knowing "something" has been lost but unable to even put it into words. 50 years ago, one could see our mothers living in a small town or on the farm, surrounded by a variety of cousins, aunts, and uncles and a community of long lasting duration, but now, such ties, are long gone. Our society is breeding very depressed, lonely disconnected people and a society that seems to be losing it's very humanity and sanity day by day. I have told non-believers I know, lift your head up from the grindstone, and ask "What is the purpose of all this"? This is meant in not in a purpose driven life, "I gotta to get mine kind of way", but a seeking after God and what is important way.

The powers that be have brainwashed everyone in this country into a way of life, they did not plan on sustaining. The over promotion of extreme-consumerism, narcissistic success where one was to climb to the top of the mountain leaving all others behind has been fully implemented resulting in an over stressed and jaded populace. Media expounds these wicked influences via celebrity fueled culture where the shallow comes first. Reading about a mother giving an 8 year old daughter Botox, to win at a beauty pageant is just one sign and symptom of this overall decline.

There are many books, that speak out this problem. Richard Putnam in his book "Bowling Alone" did an entire study of how community involvement and interaction with people have steadily declined, even part of this study oddly proved that Sunday picnics were becoming a thing of the past.

"What's more, writes Putnam, "Americans are right that the bonds of our communities have withered, and we are right to fear that this transformation has very real costs."
Some of us are old enough to remember even in large cities, the days where neighbors would visit dropping by for coffee and one knew everyone who lived next door or even a few houses down, or when families did things together, or a time where life was more then about being the busiest "worker bee" and conforming to the endless list of standards the media culture has set up such as perfectly white teeth, Martha Stewart marathon housekeeping, and all the trappings of success that seem to count first nowadays among a very numbed out populace. The people with jobs are being told to work more and more hours, with less vacation, while the people without jobs are depressed and often even ostracized for their fall down the economic ladder. Compassion and helping others seems to have fallen by the way side as crime, and despair grows.

In another book, "The Connection Gap: Why Americans Feel So Alone", also talks about the broken down neighborhoods, social connections and an overly mobile population where people end up being a "stranger" in so many places. She brings up the effects of technology, where communities have become distant where life becomes just watching or talking to a "screen".Speaking about this growing disconnection and loneliness in society, she writes:

"It is a mindset and way of being suited to this age. People trust less and keep to themselves more. People seek privacy, fencing in property, installing security systems in homes, and escaping into cars, behind apartment doors, into master bedroom suites, and gated communities. People talk a great deal about community but complain of feeling less and less a part of one. People long for rich relationships but find themselves wary of committing to others...{snip} As as society we face a collective loneliness, and empty feeling that comes not from the lack of all human interaction but from the lack of meaningful interaction to be part of something real, or to have faith in institutions that bring us together. This is what I call the Connection Gap"
Even other psychologists are writing books like the Narcissism Epidemic detailing the growing disconnect in society, concentrating on the "me first" mentalities where self-promotion has taken precedent. This author writes on page 38...

"First American immunity to narcissism has weakened. At one time, strong social pressures kept people's egos in check. Mothers asked children, "Who do you think you are?" {instead of "What do you want for dinner, princess"?) Religious leaders stressed humility and modesty. Strong communities and stable relationships discouraged arrogance and made it less necessary to meet and impress new people."

In another secular psychology book "Undoing Depression", detailing the increased rates of homelessness, economic problems, increased incarceration, etc, they write [pg. 296]

"There is too much about our society that is, simply depressing."

Definitely there are some major problems out there. People having to move every 5-7 years to keep employed, so no roots can be attained, a break down of family ties, where every relative is "alone" in the world expected to move hundreds of miles away from family to "make a living". Old sick people being left alone to fend themselves to where instead of having a family member or friend check on them, they have to wear a button on a chain around their necks, to press a button so they can alert paramedics to help them, often deposited into a nursing home, with no one to take care of them or include them in their lives. Some young people are being touted as unable to hold a conversation anymore, and have pointed to all the technology and social media leaving them feel more unconnected such as in this video made by a young man. There's many changes happening out there, and they are not all good!

Instead of social ties anymore, within America, some places we have nothing but neighborhoods of disconnected people with impersonal strip malls and big box stores. The sense of meaning for people's lives has gotten lower and lower. This break down of relationship and community has affected the churches. Some of the churches I visited were friendly even with their false teachings in tow, but others it was the same as a concert hall or movie theatre, go and watch "the show", and then go home. I would figure out how very fortunate I was to have been in a church that understood itself to be a "church family". Such a personal approach, is extremely rare in the churches today.

Everything is go go go. The hamster wheel keeps spinning, as survival has gotten harder. Every family needing two workers to keep the basic bills paid and wages sinking lower and lower. Time for quiet thought, more and more limited as the entertainment world fills people's minds and hearts with poison and detachement from other people. It's all growing in scope, in ways, never imagined.

I had the experience in my own life from going to living in nothing but large cities, to having almost 10 years in a small rural town, where life was far slower, behind the times and simple. While circumstances did not allow me to stay there, and I grieved over this quite a bit in prayer , I discovered during those years, some glimpses of how life used to be. There neighbors talked to one another, your church members would come to help, there was strong community involvement. Of course things are changing there too as one of my elderly friends has recently told me, that her neighborhood is going from a sweet close-knit family neighborhood to one where the younger people no longer having the benefit of stable family- sustaining employment have become far more transient, disconnected and drug addicted in nature.

I look at modern life, and see a shimmering soul-less surface of complete emptiness. Everything about trends, fads, and following false leaders whether it be fashion leaders who direct you to wear immodest ugly clothing or religious leaders who love to throw in a pop culture citation along with every Bible verse. Many seeking fame and notice, thinking it will last forever instead of disappearing as a vapor in the wind. To me, modern life while there are some advantages, like positive aspects of the Internet and medicine, a lot has been lost too. Looking out there on the landscape, it seems rather desolate, where values are being lost fast, and for the worse as well. One reason I probably would walk out of most "modern" churches out there even if I was utterly clueless about the false teachings, would be the ever present nauseating focus on their own "hipness".

I believe Satan has desired for people to even lose those loving relationships that once sustained people. I praise God for the loving people in my life and wonderful friends but humanity is being lost as sinful evil grows, as people are indoctrinated to look out for themselves only. There is nothing wrong with being responsible and trying take care of yourself in a Godly way, but a sinful culture, teaches selfishness and unforgiveness, and cruelty. This society is under programming to be what it is. Probably why TV shows were named "programs." Our entertainment, I believe is being used to "program" in every facet of meaning of that word. Beyond the overt and covert occult symbols and wickedness they shove in your face, keep in mind this includes immense social programming that is more subtle and encompassing. This includes the premise of total societal transformation on EVERY LEVEL. That would include the subject of this blog entry as well as all the violence, sex without love or committment, focus on appearance especially for women, keep up with the Jonses mentalities that breed covetousness. Shop til you drop, manufactured rebellion and created opinions for all. The endless chatter is to keep you diverted and distracted and DIRECTED. They also desire that close relationships are thrown over the boat for what they are selling. In other words, they wanted this.

I have the theory they set things up for the market to break up communities and families, so the trend would be for people to move far away from each other. Make travel cheap and easy for a short time, and then strip it all away. Talk about giving even more control.

So what is a person to do? The social disconnection will impact our lives too. Well, prayer keeps one going when dealing with this society. Take your lonlieness or grief of missing people to the Lord.

Often times the Christian who must forsake the false churches, does face the social price of leaving the churches. One's love for God must come first in one's life and that means giving up things for Him. The Christian's walk in this world can be challenged as they realize the true nature of this world, many of us have been blessed with Christian friends, but there are Christians who have been in that jail cell alone or with only themselves and God for solace. Read here:

"The loneliness of the Christian results from his walk with God in an ungodly world, a walk that must often take him away from the fellowship of good Christians as well as from that of the unregenerate world. His God-given instincts cry out for companionship with others of his kind, others who can understand his longings, his aspirations, his absorption in the love of Christ; and because within his circle of friends there are so few who share his inner experiences he is forced to walk alone."

I believe when this happens, a Christian's dependence on God will grow, and their relationship with Him will grow even closer. Even for some this can be sent as a time of learning to grow closer in your walk with God, and understanding what it means to keep Jesus Christ first in your life. Keep in mind even the apostles themselves faced these times with Paul even in 2 Timothy 4:10 discussing the friends and others who have moved on to other places.

The false churches know people are feeling DISCONNECTED, and are using this to sell false things. In fact one thing I have noticed is seeing CONNECTION, CONNECTION, CONNECTION repeated everywhere!, but what would they have you CONNECT to but the apostate one world church?

But even here, be careful, this is being used to deceive as well. They tell the lonely people or on their own singles, families and couples out there "get connected!", set up their small "life groups" or "cell groups" [which I wrote on here last year in a blog entry called "Beware of Cell Groups and Life Groups!"] where everyone is told to share deep personal insights with near strangers, but it's not the same as a long standing community or spontaneous Christian relationships based in truth. How many groups of true loving friends formally elect a "leader" who went to "leadership" camp to direct your "relationships"?

Do not fall for the trap of letting the social disconnection lead you to compromise. Now let me give this caveat. I believe Christians can be out in the world, we can talk to others of all kinds even to reach others with the gospel [needed even among the nominal Christian world now] but there is something different about becoming a member in a false church, to fill one's social needs even if you know the church is in the wrong. I have met several others who have told me:

"I know this preacher is teaching wrong things, but I do not want to go home and be alone, and not have a church!"

Another message they give Christians who have left the false churches is, you are in the wrong, how dare you be out there standing alone? I know and realize the social price of sticking to my principles, and not staying within false churches, many who do leave false churches, renouncing their services, and membership, etc, do pay a social price, that is not without its painful components. What is damaging is there are those out there, who will claim if you are without a church, that you suffer from the made-up concept of the Elijah Syndrome...

"This person becomes lonely because they believe that no one holds to the same beliefs they do, so they will not form friendships or become involved in church, fearing that aberrant beliefs held by the church or group will rub off on them. When a person believes they have a corner on truth, there will be a shying away from others to prevent adulterating their pure truth."

While the article has many good points about loneliness, keep in mind there are many out there know who will use that as a hammer to force you back into the mold. There are many who will tell you, don't you dare, believe you have a corner on truth. we should all examine ourselves but there is that danger too, being told that truth cannot be held. We see no challenge for the false preachers who teach untruth but for those who are committed to the truth. The verses in the bible telling us about Elijah do give a very good presentation of how God comforts those who are worn out, but do not listen to those who tell you to conform or that standing alone is such a horrible thing you must give it up and join whatever church you can find.

So what does a Christian do? The Bible does deal directly with many themes of disconnection and being lonely or separated from others. One of the first is to know God is there for you and to turn to Him. We must remember many have been forsaken for the gospel even to the point of their own families renouncing them. The Lord will take you up!

Psa 27:10 When my father and my mother forsake me, then the LORD will take me up.

Realize this was predicted, the Bible tells us above in Matt 24:12 that inquity will abound, that means wickedness will grow more intense. The rejection of Jesus, and of God's truth is leading to these trends we see in society involving even the fading love between fellow human beings. The Christian needs to "gird up the loins of their own mind" 1 Peter 1:3 to know what we will be facing here. "Without natural affection" is very hard-hitting stuff. This isn't vague, this means a society of disconnected people who have lost the ability to love.

2Ti 3:1 ¶ This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. 2 Ti 3:2For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 2Ti 3:3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, 2Ti 3:4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; 2Ti 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
Trust in God and let Him direct your steps.

Realize there are many other lonely and hurting people. Love the lost, seek to witness to them, love even those who have let the sway of culture seduce them into the lifestyle being sold to so many, without the conviction of the Holy Spirit they stumble around in the dark living for this world. Reach out to other people who are on their own or in need of a human touch. Reach out to those the world has cast off, the "last" of this world. One of my dearest Christian friends runs a jail ministry for women and reaches out to young women much of the rest of the world has given up on. Pray to God to direct your steps in being to help any you can minister to. There is much work for the Christian to do.

Hbr 13:1 ¶ Let brotherly love continue.

Hbr 13:2 Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.

Hbr 13:3 Remember them that are in bonds, as bound with them; [and] them which suffer adversity, as being yourselves also in the body.

Seek to love others even with the wickedness abounding. Know that other Christians out there are your true brothers and sisters, and love is true between Christian brethern. The Christian who is "alone" in this world, is not alone in being born again having God as their Father, and Christian brothers and sisters. Realize even among the growing coldness and forsakedness of this world, there is always the warmth of God's love and of your brother and sisters in Jesus Christ.

1Jo 4:7 Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.


Anonymous said...

I am rejected by my parents and 11 siblings, by my in laws and finally by my husband and all children save for my eldest daughter.
The stress and emotional and physical abuse are such that I have worn out my entire digestive tract from the stress. Imagine swimming in the middle of the ocean, no land in sight, until muscle and bone are so painfully weary, muscle seizes up and you crumple and drown.
This is the wearing out of the saints of God times, where you are so isolated and accused, you verbally defend by reasoning, every action and thought you have, even for basic bodily needs.
There is persecution in America, and some are being tortured slowly to death for the truth they so dearly hold and love.
I would run away but that would take salt and light out from this household, and if I am to be martyred this way, it is God's will, and I pray it impacts my children and husband, and compels them to God.

Bible Believer said...

I am so sorry you are going through that. If you need someone to talk to, please email me through this blog. I am glad your eldest daughter is standing by you.

There are many being rejected by families and others for their faith, this can range from being ostracization to being freezed out. Even with faith taken out of the equation, this culture is such, is that lower status, bad health, unemployment, etc, can lead one to finding all social support crumbling. Yes this does adversely affect health in many insidious ways.

I agree this is the wearing out of the saints, where isolation is the price many are paying. Persecution of all kinds is what Christians are paying world wide, some with their lives in other nations and some with betrayal and having people turn their backs on them. I am sorry things are so tough for you, will be praying.

Bible Believer said...

One thing I do want to add if you are being physically abused, God will not judge you for removing yourself from the situation for your own safety.

Kayfabe said...

Great post! This is very near and dear to my heart. My mom, sister and step sister have turned on me due to the stand I have taken regarding the gay relationship that my step sister is involved in. God has reconciled me and my step sister so I thank him for that. My mom is very antagonistic towards me anytime I speak about the things of God as is my sister. My Mom goes to church but she is attracted to the seeker sensitive fellowships that do not touch the topic of sin, hell and judgment. If you speak the true word of God you will be persecuted. Your right about the pressure to conform by church goers as they try to tell you that you are wrong for making a go of it outside of the established church organization. I feel closer to God now than when I was attending the Calvary Chapel that I was going to and small men’s bible studies that I go to have blessed me. I have been told as of late that I need to make sure that God is leading me to another fellowship and that I need to be "plugged in" somewhere. The thing is I know that God has called me out of the mainstream and to come out from among them. I plan to attend a small fellowship where the word of God is taught for what it is. Even at my former fellowship the pastor seems to be getting a case of "celebrity status" and it is a turn off quite frankly. I have been witnessing as of late here in downtown L.A. during my lunch hour twice a week and it has been a huge blessing to me. I do agree that swimming against the tide can be very lonely as some of my brethren from Calvary although still there for me have put up a little wall especially when they see that a few of my views on scripture regarding the end times don't coincide with theirs. Even when I talk to some of my brothers in the lord the conversation stirs towards the latest goings on at church as far as people go and not the word of God. It seems like people even many believers are more into "Self Help Christianity" rather than dying to self and serving others. I have been guilty of this as well but it is time for that attitude to change in the body of Christ.

Anonymous said...

Thank You for your prayers and understanding and also the offer of letting me email you to talk privately, may God bless you for this kindness and may God bless all the persecuted and the ones who are there for them lending an ear and speaking truth.
My children are all adults who still live with me and my husband, and often times I think leaving would teach them something too, I am just afraid this is a cop out on my responsibility to stand in the breach. I am torn and confused on this issue and ask in prayer every day what I should really do.
I am also afraid to go now, I have become so impaired (physically/emotionally)that I am not sure I could successfully transition and support myself.
I believe God would prosper me in my attempt to free myself if it is His will, yet I am not sure it is His will that I leave, wow I am so torn by this issue.
Thank you again, your words and timely article on this gave me courage to speak out and great comfort along with your prayers.

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Bible Believer said...

Last anon

You are welcome, anytime you need to write, go ahead. I will be praying for you and the other persecuted people and others going through these hardships. I am glad you have adult children there with you even in terms of safety's sake. 1 Corinthians 7:7 may apply to your situation, where if you had to depart for your own safety...

1 Corinthians 7
10And unto the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from her husband:

11But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife.

There was a Christian lady I knew who had to make this difficult decision of departing an abusive husband when she was younger, in concerns for her own safety because he was so violent. She went on to live a celibate life.

I would keep in prayer about whether God wants you to stay or go or what steps you could take. I believe no woman should have to put up with abuse, now in some situations, there can be some healing but lines and boundaries need to be drawn, also sometimes time apart may be for the best. Do put your safety first and that of your other children and grown ones as well. I do worry that the churches as far as domestic abuse goes have fumbled that ball. I am of the mind set that unless the abuser repents, or stays within boundaries, no lady has to remain in a situation where her safety is at risk.

Bible Believer said...

To poster above, keep in prayer, and ask God what to do in your particular situation. I will keep praying for you.


I am sorry your family has turned against you for one of your biblical viewpoints and am glad your step sister and you have been reconciled.
Sorry to hear your Mom goes to false seeker sensitive churches. I know it can be tough out there with the families, I am the only born again Christian in my family [they are mostly Catholic], and have had many viewpoints dismissed. One aunt has not spoken to me in years, due to my sharing a prolife viewpoint.
I am glad you have grown closer to God. Agree with you regarding the being called out from the mainstream churches. I have been told on line, that it is a sin to be out of an "official church" but it is definitely a greater sin to be partaking of their false doctrines and falsehoods. There is great pressure out there to conform.

That's too bad your last pastor was getting the "celebrity bug". I wrote about Celebrity pastors on this older blog entry, think you would find it interesting.

This last church I visited, the pastor was TOO charismatic, it gave me the willies. I have to admit, even seeing the power and self elevation that these pastors seek after is distressing to the max.

I am glad you are out witnessing, God bless you for that. Will pray. Oh I relate to leaving the Calvary Chapel behind, and some being very unhappy, about my questioning of the rapture and more. I am glad a few still speak with you but often when people leave churches, that can be the end of the friendships.

I know , it is hard to speak about the things of the Lord in dead churches, I and another friend were talking about this the other day. In fact, I knew I had to depart one place, not even sticking around for the bible studies outside of services, when I realized their true opinion towards bible christians.

I know the self-help Christianity is massively being sold to people...where it's all about having the most "successful" life in this world...

Kayfabe said...

I have been following your blog for awhile and it has been a blessing to me. Calvary Chapel has a reputation for being laid back so standing firm to biblical principles is somewhat discouraged as you are told that we have to love people. Loving people doesn't mean you sacrifice truth. What troubles me is that many of the mega church pastors are living the "abundant life" while their congregants struggle to make ends meet. It seems like from the outside looking in that very little of the money given is actually used for evangelism and is used more to build that pastors kingdom. I know that at the Calvary Chapel I was attending the first thing to be cut off due to the recession was the outreach ministry in mexico but they continued to upgrade the church building and fund things like a fashion show. The sense of urgency seems to be lacking in the body of christ. I'm glad that god has put in your heart as well as others put ezekial 33:1-7 into action.

Bible Believer said...

HI Kayfabe...

Thanks for your encouragement. When I attended a Calvary Chapel for a short time [I had moved away from my good fund. church] and was trying to find a new church home, I thought the "laid back" thing would be a positive, less stiff upper lip formality but without as much seeker sensitive deceptions, but I saw 'standing firm" definitely was discouraged, even in my early days of attending there, while some of the members were on the same page, I knew some saw me as "too extreme". Definitely that applies to a lot of the churches now. What is odd is sometimes the confessing "Christians" will even get more angry at a strong statement of beliefs then non-Christians.

As far as not standing firm and being like jelly, I found this writing by Chuck Smith that disturbed me deeply. I do not expect everyone to be a bible scholar, I also do expect over a CHristian life, the Holy Spirit will show a believer things and they will learn [like leaving the pre-trib position behind] but to take a fence sitting approach like this is dangerous. God's truth is out there and stands. Are there Two sides to everything or ONE truth? Even if us imperfect human beings, are limited, with God there is total TRUTH. This is why this statement bugs me so much. It is a difference cusp of "moral relativism"....

Chuck Smith wrote this:

"Some people object because they feel that I gloss over certain passages of Scripture, and they’re correct. But glossing over controversial issues is often deliberate because there are usually two sides. And I have found that it’s important not to be divisive and not to allow people to become polarized on issues, because the moment they are polarized, there’s division.

~Calvary Chapel Distinctives, Chuck Smith, pp. 55"

One can see where that takes people. If not out and out watering down of truth everything of substance could get shoveled under the carpet.


Bible Believer said...

The mega-church pastors are so wholly out of touch. I see this even in Calvary Chapel. See any warning about the economy or preparing their flocks for hard times? I dare say most who are facing the hard times, end of leaving the churches for that alone, because the sermons, lifestyles and other things presented [like a 120 dollar seminar? or a 50 dollar DVD?] are all things presented to an upper middle class and above demographic, those struggling to keep the rent paid and their prescriptions paid for are not going to relate. I even saw this one book from the library for ladies church parties, where it detailed expensive recipes and gifts and while I think there is nothing sinful about a nice church dinner, it made me really wonder due to the lavishness presented. It was called "Party Divas: 12 Fabulous Parties For Women's Ministry"

I agree the money seems to be all given to buildings and huge seminars, and productions [those light shows alone have to cost big money] or other globalist pursuits, whatever cause the elites are sponsering that week.

That is too bad, they cut off the missions program in Mexico for the church building and fancy stuff but seems par for the course. I have been told by people of more humble means and coming from the same place know what they are talking about, they feel like they do not belong in the churches, and while this is not a bad thing to me in the way they are more likely to avoid the false teachers out there, it does say something about these churches doesnt it? I was very fortunate to hvae those years in a church where the members helped one another, and where things were humble and not about being bigger, faster, fancier.

The whole 'culture' of it all is totally off. Its a world I want nothing to do with. It's the world the true Christian knows is as empty as a bucket of water that has had many holes punched in it. Plastic, shallow to the extreme, stepford people, focus on looks and youth culture--ever notice on these church videos and ads everyone is thin and young? It's like a marriage especially in the American version of things of the worse lowest common denominator consumerism and a false "christianity" marrying together with a pop culture reference abounding for every pursuit and latest fad.

Lisa Ruby said...

Bible Believer wrote, "Seek to love others even with the wickedness abounding. Know that other Christians out there are your true brothers and sisters, and love is true between Christian brethern. The Christian who is "alone" in this world, is not alone in being born again having God as their Father, and Christian brothers and sisters. Realize even among the growing coldness and forsakedness of this world, there is always the warmth of God's love and of your brother and sisters in Jesus Christ.

1Jo 4:7 Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God."

AMEN! This is an excellent and most timely article!

Lisa Ruby said...

Bible Believer quoted Chuck Smith:

"Some people object because they feel that I gloss over certain passages of Scripture, and they’re correct. But glossing over controversial issues is often deliberate because there are usually two sides. And I have found that it’s important not to be divisive and not to allow people to become polarized on issues, because the moment they are polarized, there’s division.

~Calvary Chapel Distinctives, Chuck Smith, pp. 55"

Yes there are two sides: Truth vs Lies.

Chuck Smith doesn't want anyone to be divided and take sides? One cannot have BOTH Truth and Lies. Division is necessary when it comes to choosing truth or falsehood. There is a narrow way (truth) and there is a broad way (lies). Only a false teacher would say that one need not take sides when it comes to what one believes!

Bible Believer said...

Thanks Lisa,

Yes other Christians out there are our true brothers and sisters.

Remember when Jesus said this? This passage is very instructive....

31There came then his brethren and his mother, and, standing without, sent unto him, calling him.

32And the multitude sat about him, and they said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren without seek for thee.

33And he answered them, saying, Who is my mother, or my brethren?

34And he looked round about on them which sat about him, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!

35For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and my sister, and mother.

Love is true between Christian brethern, even if a Christian is "physically" alone in this world they are not alone, in terms of being a brother and sister in Jesus Christ's church.

There are many without worldly families as well, I warn on here for folks to watch out for churches that exclude the single, lonely and family-less. This sadly seems to be a trend out there.

Bible Believer said...

Chuck Smith with that instruction is basically telling people not to seek truth and to sit on the fence to avoid stirring up trouble. That reminds me of that church I visited where they had weird instructions in the bulletin, where divisiveness was to be cancelled and disagreements kept to yourself. That is a perfect statement to lead people into deception and into the ecumenical movement. Let's not forget Calvary Chapel is wily that way, oh they'll admit a few truths like the RCC preaches a false gospel, but then they will be fully involved via Billy Graham and other channels in the one world church.

They are instructing more and more church members to stay passive, don't think, don't dare disagree, do not talk about things that may "rock the boat". It was so immense in that one church I visited, I couldn't even believe it.

Yes the statement shows Chuck Smith to be a totally false teacher, whenever one of them say doctrine is not important or there can be two sides instead of one truth, they are WRONG.

2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;