Friday, January 14, 2011

Rick Warren Teams Up With Swedenborg Cult Follower Dr. OZ

Well here is the video, for the Daniel Plan being held at the Saddleback church. While some health information is important shouldn't the focus in a church be on the spiritual rather then the temporal body? Does this mean the youngest, most healthy, athletic and thinnest will be the most honored in the church, don't women especially face that enough already in the world? Notice in the ad most everyone is young, and lithe, just like the world of television.

Don't forget Dr. Oz used to appear on Oprah, and we have seen where years worth of failed diets has led this unhealthy culture. Ask Oprah how successful dieting is. Warren should be preparing his church members for what is going to come from the declining USA economy. I suspect people who are scourging for pennies to buy carrots, some ramen noodles or hot dogs for dinner, are not the ones affording this church diet. Those trying to keep their house from being foreclosed on are not worrying about if they can use any olive oil on their baked salmon and arugula. Also remember biblical fasting is a different matter then the world's dieting programs, which too often are used to make money.

Dr. Oz is a Swedenborg follower as exposed in this article "Rick Warren Teams Up with Swedenborg Follower Dr Oz". I know false religion can be really promoted via health. The other two doctors on board, have even more dubious religious backgrounds:

The other two speakers are Dr. Daniel Amen and Dr. Mark Hyman. Dr. Amen teaches tantric sex, a Hindu mystical approach to sex. He teaches Eastern religion meditation and energy-based Reiki, a New Age practice. Dr. Mark Hyman promotes mystical meditation based on Buddhist principles.

One fad, sweeping the churches is the Daniel Fast or "Plan". I do not know if the one Warren is pushing is the same exact program but this one according to this website, is vegetarian, at least in the first few weeks.

Another group I know of is the vegetarian Hallelujah Acres. This place has a live-in community and even "health ministers" that will counsel with you over the phone long distance. One of my friends joined it, while some of the advice was worthwhile--[fruits and vegetables are really good for you] the connection of diet and health to spirituality really bother me. It presented itself as Christian, but pushed very subtle New Age teachings. Christian vegetarianism I have found always rather odd, given this verse:

Luke 24:41 And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat?

42 And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb.

43 And he took it, and did eat before them.

Warren's program is not vegetarian as far as I know, but one has to wonder about the focus on physical health over spiritual health here. Aren't there gyms, health food stores and other community programs to take up that slack? Satan knows those who are desperate to improve their health or conquer health problems can be easily mislead. The "holistic" health world, with its naturopaths and more can be a trap. By the way, I go to health food stores, and believe some herbal remedies are worthwhile, but it is a place a Christian needs to be very careful.

While some advice given in these type of groups is worthwhile such as avoiding high-fat food or processed additives, it leads back to focus on the self. It buys into the lookist culture, that delivers the same answers that haven't worked so far in a culture with a shortening life spans and increasingly toxic and sinful lifestyles.


mom4truth said...

I didn't see it mentioned in any of the posts I've seen on this, but Dr. Oz also admittedly practices Reiki.

And the worst part of this whole thing is that the cult followers of Rick Warren will stand by him, even through this. Clearly, we are witnessing the massive apostasy warned of in Scripture.

Bible Believer said...

I went to go look up Oz and Reiki...

it doesn't look good...

"'Try Reiki,' Dr. Oz tells millions on TV

Dr. Mehmet Oz, a renowned cardiovascular surgeon and host of the third (or possibly second) most popular syndicated television program in America, this week introduced millions of viewers to the natural healing practice of Reiki as part of a program on alternative and natural remedies. The Dr. Oz Show included not only a segment featuring a demonstration by Reiki author Pamela Miles, but an emphatic recommendation to "try Reiki" as the #1 "Oz's Order" at the show's conclusion."

I told a friend of mine the other day, how can anyone be following Rick Warren anymore, but then I stopped and thought, well they are still following the likes of Benny Hinn and the Pope.

I went to the Saddleback website, where it says "The new You for a New Decade!" sounds like a title that Oprah would put on the front of one of her magazines.

This too speaks too all the 'self" focus. Maybe some people in this culture should stop worrying about how good they look and start praying to God and following his will.

Check out this page...

Anonymous said...

“ ... dissent in matters of doctrine concerning faith does not mean that the Church cannot be one Church, provided all are of one mind in willing what is good and doing it.”

“ If charity were its essential element, there would be one church, not a division into many; and it would then not matter if their teachings about faith and external forms of worship were different.”

“Nobody, not even an angel, can know all the different ways in which people accept the Lord.”

“The life of faith never exists without the life of charity, for without charity the life of faith is impossible.”

“You are not made happy by the true things you believe from your faith, but by the goodness which comes from your faith.”

“Spiritual things are more real than worldly things.”

“All things are blessings when a person is in the order of Heaven. ”

“The Ten commandments contain, in brief summary, all things of religion. Through them the conjunction of God with man, and man with God, takes place. There is nothing more holy.”

“God is to be honored by being worshiped and He is worshiped when He is loved.”

All quoted from the theological writings of Swedenborg. You really ought to look deeper than your personal perception and perhaps shed the arrogance of knowing the quality of a person through your own judgment.

Bible Believer said...

"perhaps shed the arrogance of knowing the quality of a person through your own judgment".

Honestly what is wrong with that?

Don't people make those judgements everyday? I would say they do like in choosing who to marry, who to do business with, who to trust around their family, etc. etc.

If one can't discern the wickedness of someone, like let's say a new Hitler or Charles Mason, or even as the Bible tells us to avoid the company of fornicators, revelers, [the wicked]etc where does that leave someone but fodder for Satan to take advantage of?

Speaking of the Bible...

we are told we CAN KNOW...

Mat 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

1Cr 6:2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?

Are you a follower of Swedenborg? [that is a group, I am not 100% familiar with, but have discerned as being false]

Anonymous said...

Emanuel Swedenborg was an 18th century scientist and Christian. He wrote many volumes on the Bible and also about life after death. I was raised as a Southern Baptist and I can say that reading Swedenborg's writings deepened my understanding of Scripture and my relationship with the Lord, and also my life-long depression (due to losing multiple loved ones while I was a teen) was lifted.
Among his basic tenants:

God is One and Jesus Christ is God Himself (John 10:30)

Life must be lived according to the Commandments (Luke 10:25-28); faith alone is dead (James 2:17; Matthew 7:21-23)

I am profoundly indebted to Emanual Swedenborg for having the courage to write the books that he did; his books literally saved my sanity and led to my having a closer relationship with the Lord.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous -- That is great that you feel Swedenborg helped you -- God can take even bad and use it for good. However, as much as Swedenborg "talks" about God (from the quotes you listed) his beliefs are not in line with Christianity.

From their own website:

Nor did Christ come to redeem us from original sin. Rather, His mission was that of revealing the nature and reality of the spiritual life, and to provide a living example of it.

Our salvation through Christ (for our sins) is the VERY heart of Christianity. The fact that they do not believe this is troubling. Nor do they believe in Satan (since Christ himself refers to Satan -- I'm more apt to believe Christ than man). They also believe that when you die, you either become an Angel or evil spirit. Where is that in the bible? And how can a Christian who has Christ in him become an evil spirit when they die? This is only a portion of what I've found on Swendenborg. So, again, not going on personal feelings, I'm trying to be a Berean and test ALL things and hold them up to the bible for comparison. I can't find anything that supports his beliefs, but I do find everything proving Swendenborg's beliefs to be false.

Anonymous said...

Any of you heard your body is a temple. If you eat the wrong foods and put things in them that are unhealthy you are sinning. The Bible offers the perfect diet. Do I follow it no. The flesh is weak. God did not put meat here according to genesis for us to eat. Christians attacking others is not Christian. Rick warren is hardly managing a cult. Please don't use the word Christian in your name. That is why people do not want to be like Christians; you.

Anonymous said...

Dear Anon from Nov 13. Please read Matthew 15.

Jesus said you can eat what you want. It's not what you put in your mouth that defiles you. It's what comes out of your mouth that defiles you. The words that come out of your mouth show the condition of your heart.

Matthew 16-19

"16 “Are you still so dull?” Jesus asked them. 17 “Don’t you see that whatever enters the mouth goes into the stomach and then out of the body? 18 But the things that come out of a person’s mouth come from the heart, and these defile them. 19 For out of the heart come evil thoughts—murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander."

Rick Warren does not follow the Bible. He follows new age philosophies. He endorses new age authors. Please do some research.

Please - why are people believing and following other people like Rick Warren instead of believing and following the Bible?

Please read your Bible!

Jesus and his disciples in the New Testament called out false teachers all the time. Jesus told his disciples he was sending them out like sheep among wolves. It is no different today. There are many wolves out there to take you in the wrong direction. Please read your Bible so you can tell who they are. You are in my prayers today.

And yes, the flesh is weak, but trusting in Jesus Christ, and through the power of the Holy Spirit, he will give you strength.

These promises are in the Bible. Please read it.

Anonymous said...

Amen anonymous! In the end times there will be many false teachers and they will perform signs and wonders even perform miracles. So many that they could even fool God's elect if they weren't grounded in God's word. Please read your Bible, get to know God. He wants to have a relationship with you. Don't fall for every new thing that comes along. God is the same yesterday, today and always. There is NO other way to God except through Jesus Christ.