Friday, January 14, 2011

Is the Pope THE Antichrist?



Is the Pope THE Antichrist? From the first day, one is born again, they discern the papacy is wicked and Antichrist in character, and I did too, but only recently have I come more to the conclusion that the Pope is or a final Pope will be THE Antichrist. The Papacy itself is Antichrist in itself. The office is Antichrist. For years, as trained by many premill teachers, we were all told to accept the Pope as the possible false prophet while keeping our eyes peeled for the political world leader: a would be Hitler on steroids, as the Antichrist? After all this is what Left Behind books pointed to, and every famous Bible teacher out there from Van Impe to LaHaye, have insisted on.

This is one of those articles, where I am still exploring some things [this is an area, where I am still studying and learning, so if anyone wants to add corrections, or more information in the comments, go ahead] Here is a caveat: yes I believe there are many truly born again people who see the Pope as a would be false prophet but wish to bring up these things to get people to think. Keep in prayer for God to show you the truth.

One thing I discovered was many Reformers came to the conclusion that the Pope was the Antichrist, [or at least the office]. This includes just about every Reformer. Luther said of the Pope: "The Pope should be recognized as the very Antichrist". Knox said of him: "The Pope is Antichrist, and his seat is that of Satan himself".

I do not think it is too extreme to assume, that the continuing "Counter-Reformation" via Rome is still in full swing. One can examine websites who expose the interaction of even world governments with Rome. These are few in number but they expose the astonishing involvement of the Pope and his men including Jesuits with global elites and governmental figures and it goes beyond just diplomatic meanderings and far deeper then that. By the way there is a reason, most of the politicians, kings and queens wear black [check out the video even of the visiting church leaders too] before the Pope it is a sign of "deference" to papal authority.



Christians who know their Bible understand why Pope Benedict basically called for world government in his last encyclical, and what it means for many of our politicians to basically be bowing before the Pope such as Jeb Bush and Pelosi.The evidence is growing that many of these politicians are no longer serving the interests of the American people but a grander scheme.


Many if not the majority of alternative media and "conspiracy world" websites, make sure to always point away from the Vatican placing all blame on: the "aliens" [the Nephilim], the "Jews", The "Illuminati" [founded by Jesuits] , The Masons [which actually the Masonic orders are ruled from Rome], the Protoccols of Zion [which were actually written by the Jesuits ] are all blamed as the mother of all abominations and as all running the show, when in all the research I've done so far everything leads home to Rome [or basically what is "modern" Babylon Rev. 17:5]. Wickedness doesn't limit itself to any one group of people, the Bible says there is none that doeth good...[Romans 3;12]. This does not diminish the role that Satan, fallen angels or demons or other servants of "the father are lies" are playing on earth either but the Vatican is playing a special role.

For example one big "conspiracy" researcher, has on his radio and Internet show, Catholics like Charlie Sheen and Pat Buchanan and warns us about the march of the new world order and police state, but ask some who have tried to bring up the Vatican on his radio show, the results aren't so good. Others still point to the Jews over and over [who Satan desires to lead away from Jesus Christ, and pit the whole world against] as well as the "Illuminati". While I trust very few websites, even this one, that ask questions about why so much of the alternative media covers for the Roman Catholicism church, if one understands what the Papacy is really about, then they will understand why so many play cover-up. Could many of the false teachings regarding end times be part of the cover-up? [Think of the last two blog entries I've done with those who preach there will be a return to animal sacrifices in the millennial kingdom and who desire for the Jewish temple to be rebuild.]

There definitely seems to be some planned out camouflage and diversion going on! The poor Catholic people themselves are deceived regarding the Pope, but what to is there to say about so called "Christian" leaders who always point away from the Pope? Do not forget that today, it is only the very few Christians who acknowledge what the papacy is about as most churches are eager to join with Rome. Why wouldn't this plan be pointing away from the Pope as the Antichrist? Why did we go from having many historical Protestant churches pointing to the Pope as the Antichrist, and the RCC as the harlot, to today's messages that the Pope is either a
"a model of moral strength" as Franklin Graham tells us or more of a bit player in end time prophecies?

One researcher who I definitely do NOT agree with on racial matters: [he goes against Acts 17:26 as the link from another observer describes], fifth monarchy and many other things: [always be discerning when researching] he does tell some truths about the Pope: summing up the immense degree of papal power......

Pope Benedict XVI is OPENLY the most powerful man on earth. This man, SECRETLY directed by Jesuit Superior General Adolfo Nicolas advised by his Ten Assistants, rules Washington, D.C., Chicago, New York City, Los Angeles,Ottawa, Mexico City, Rio de Janeiro, Sydney, Tokyo, Beijing, Moscow, Berlin, Paris, Copenhagen, Amsterdam, Brussels, Lisbon, Madrid, London, Dublin, Cairo, Johannesburg, Jerusalem, Beirut, Damascus, Baghdad, and every other political/commercial center of importance on earth. This man, advised by his Jesuit Confessor, directs Rome’s Unified Divine-Right Papal Knighthoods; its Unified International Freemasonic/Iluminati Secret Society Network; its Unified International Intelligence Community (including Interpol), its Unified International Banking Community, its Unified International Organized Crime Syndicate, its Unified International Islamic Terrorist Network (having replaced Rome’s 20th Century International Communist Terrorist Network, having replaced Rome’s 19th Century International Anarchist Terrorist Network), and its Unified International Communications Network, all of which grovels at the feet of the Black Pope’s International Tridentine Counter-Reformation Jesuit Intelligence/Terrorist Apparatus.

So how come, so few Christians ponder the possibilities of the Pope being the Antichrist or ponder the realities of the world power of the Vatican? Why do some seem to think the Antichrist is going to show up wearing red horns, a cape and carrying a pitchfork, instead of presenting himself as a "good and holy man" and as a counterfeit "Christian"? I know Jack Chick and Alberto Rivera warned against the Pope as the Antichrist: While they are pretrib regarding the Rapture which I disagree with, Chick seems to be the only one out there, outside of the very few old school Protestant and other fundamentalist Christian groups pointing to the Pope as the Antichrist.

Here is what Alberto Rivera said:"Jesus spoke of many false Christs coming in His name that would deceive many. John tells us that even now there are many antichrists, [1 John 2:18 and the apostle Paul speaks of the final antichrist which is to come. I believe this is fulfilled in the dynasty of the papacy and that the antichrist will be the pope who is in power when Jesus Christ returns" [page 22: Four Horsemen Alberto Part 5]




As most Christians know, almost every well known TV preacher and well-known published teachers out there, focuses on the great world leader that will arise and take over the planet. There are websites, that even have pointed to Obama as the Antichrist, and those of us who were old enough remember when "Ronald Wilson Reagan" [6 letters in each name] was the floated candidate, as well as both Bushes and a variety of other candidates. Other teachers even well-meaning warn of a great world leader arising out of the Middle East.


So What about the Pope?

The RCC claims this about the Pope: 937 The Pope enjoys, by divine institution, "supreme, full, immediate, and universal power in the care of souls" (CD 2). Here do not forget that Rome teaches the Pope is to be called "The Holy Father" which by the way is incredible blasphemy considering Jesus told us "call no man father" and knowing John 17:11. We know the warnings about Babylon point to Rome [more on this later, and to the seven hills of Rome]. Priests [which the Pope is a priest as well though the "highest ranking one"] are called "alter Christus' in the Catholic religion: which is Latin for "another christ".




Don't forget what the Bible warns about false christs and those who would bring "another gospel", the very definition of the Antichrist is someone who comes taking the "place" of Jesus Christ but who is counterfeit.

We know the last few Popes especially have preached "peace" while ushering all religions and the majority of churches under the one world religion Catholic umbrella for dialogue and unity. Included in this message is for the United Nations to help make this happen over and over again, with appeals for more power and controls, more unity and the "common good". Lets not forget that Pope Benedict called for a UN with teeth. He stated: "There is an urgent need for a true world political authority."

The same messages come forth, and they all are centered on the same one world 'one mind of the beast" Antichrist theme the Pope pushes: "The need emerged to elaborate a new world political and economic order, but at the same time and above all, a spiritual and cultural one, that is, renewed humanism," Benedict said.


Those in the know, understand that the above shows a hand sign...Now let's look at scripture: [Lets have the pictures and scripture speak for themselves ]


Dan 8:25 And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify [himself] in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand.



2 Thess 2: 3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.




Rev 13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.





Just consider...What about the Pope?

42 comments:

Anonymous said...

Amen, BB, amen! Definitely the pope! And I believe those who teach to look for another figure are deceiving and misleading people, as well as themselves. Anon. #1

Anonymous said...

Thank you very much for putting up this article. I am so sick of anti-semitic hateful people blaming the Jewish people, or others that point to Rockefeller/Rothschild/Carnegie/bankersbankersbankers, yet get upset when you bring up the spiritual aspect of this, which is what really leads this.

Does Satan care about money? Does he need some? He only uses money as a way to get people under his domain, so that he might be WORSHIPED, and he can lead them to the lake of fire. That is the summation of Satan's work and goals.

There is a growing group of researchers that are exposing the vatican as the head of all of this, some are good, and some have problems. But the more fingers pointing at the vatican, the better. They are the spiritual head of all of this. Think about it. What other spiritual organization on earth has their influence, power, and wealth? None.

The "spiritually smart" website with Thomas Richards is a good one, I don't agree with all of his doctrine in terms of the Bible, but I see his research in terms of proving the vatican as the head, as excellent research.

Not a coincidence that, as we go further into the future, more and more "evangelicals" are working hard to defend the vatican as "just another Christian denomination".

Anonymous said...

By the way, bring up the vatican and the jesuits to Alex Jones, the supposed "biggest name" in research, and he will run you right off his show.

Bible Believer said...

Thanks Anon #1

Anon #2, I am sick of the anti-semitic stuff too. One thing remember the Bible warns about those who say they are Jews [Rev 9:2] and are not, [wouldn't this be a possible strategy in the 'blame the Jewish people' game?] I put the Rothchilds possibly as being in that camp. I heard one Vatican researcher, recently say one title for the Rothchilds is "guardians of the Vatican treasure." Anyhow you are right, Satan only uses money for a tool, to lead people to himself.

You are right, let's look at WHO is "directing" the world's economies? [By the way what is happening to America's economy is no accident but I believe has been planned]. The bankers and economic power brokers seem to be more servants, not the ones running the show here. Look up some of those powerbrokers, heads of WTO, large banks and other concerns and see how many different "knight memberships" you see and awards from the Pope.

Here is one example I posted about on this blog, in this case, someone who worked right with the Vatican:
http://galatiansfour.blogspot.com/2010/06/vatican-offical-tied-to-bp-goldman-sacs.html


I am glad too there is a growing number of researchers out there exposing the Vatican and their role, but there we must remember to be careful to and keep our discernment. There is one site, I've gone to [it's not listed in this blog article] where they have a message board and download instant trojans on your computer and introduce subtle New Age messages. Watch out for disinformation and test all things. Overall I agree the more they can be exposed Ephesians 5, the better!

So far I like what I see on Thomas Richard's website, do not agree with everything like you said too, but his earlier website with stuff on the Red Mass, and other pages, helped fill in some of the puzzle pieces for me.

You are right that it is no coincidence that more and more evangelicals are embracing the RCC as 'another Christian church" and those who discern it as the harlot are growing fewer in number.

Anon #3. Yes I have heard about that, yes they are silenced, from what I have read and run right off the show. It is a shame really. Makes you wonder what the agenda is there?

Anonymous said...

That saying proves true: all roads lead to Rome--in the world, that is. Anon. #1

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Anonymous said...

I believe those who "say they are Jews and are not" are simply Jewish people that are unfortunately working against the spreading of the Gospel, and singling them out is just for that particular time frame, since they were more prominent in the early church time. Today, it is infinitely more common to find a non-Jewish unbeliever, trying to impede the spreading of the Gospel, so in our day, I believe Jesus would have said something different for our time.

Romans tells us that, even if there is a Jewish person working against the Gospel, yet love them and protect them and take care of them, since they are beloved for the calling (Romans 11:12-24, Romans 11:28).

So we have to remember that. Let's not boast against the unbelieving Jewish branches. Let's love them, protect them, stand up for them, and tell them about their Messiah, Jesus.

Since the day is coming, that the whole world will turn against Israel, and it will only be the true believers in Jesus, that will support them. The Jewish people need our support and protection, now and then!

One of the most anti-semitic groups in history, is catholicism. That's why we don't want to follow their example, on anything.

foundthetruth said...

Hi BB, i agree with you, reminded me of St Malachy's prophecy with Pope Benedict being the second to last on the list op Popes till the end.

"In the final persecution of the Holy Roman Church there will reign Peter the Roman, who will feed his flock amid many tribulations, after which the seven-hilled city will be destroyed and the dreadful Judge will judge the people. The End."

Bible Believer said...

"I believe those who "say they are Jews and are not" are simply Jewish people that are unfortunately working against the spreading of the Gospel, and singling them out is just for that particular time frame, since they were more prominent in the early church time."

I agree that verse could apply to that group too, Anon. I agree with you too, we are supposed to reach out to the Jewish people and and lead them to Jesus Christ. Agree about Catholicism and anti-semitism.

Last Anon--

Yes I've seen those Malachy prophecies, I certainly take Catholic prophecy with a grain of salt, but they say there will only be one more Pope after this one, have deemed an exact number. The last Pope is supposed to be named "Peter the Roman". There is some conjecture out there, Malachy counted only up to 111 Popes.

Bible Believer said...

Thanks Avenue of Light, Glad you have Chiniquy on there, that was a great book for me to read as I came out of the RCC, and want to take a look at the book Vatican Designs Exposed. I always believed the Da Vinci Code book was being used to set people up in some way. We know Angels and Demons points away from the Vatican--as if the "Illuminati" product of the Jesuits would fight the Vatican! I'll have to check out more of your articles.

mom4truth said...

Hey BB-

I thought you would appreciate this.

http://www.mom4truth.com/catholics-come-home-revisited/

I wrote an article about 6 months ago about the Catholics Come Home ads and received quite the letter from the CCH Communications Manager. This post includes her letter and my reply.

Whew- they're out in full force!

Bible Believer said...

I saw one of those ads on TV. Appeals for all those who have left, to come back. Since they do not have the gospel, it is about leading people back to their "organization" not to Jesus Christ. I read through your article: she sends the same message I saw from Catholic apologists--she is probably sincere, but the double talk messages regarding the Eucharist as a "re-presentation"[as if that hyphen changes everything] of Christ's sacrifice, and the "we do not worship Mary" messages though dozens of foot tall Mary status and special services say otherwise. You are right about the average Joe catholic not understanding what Transubstantiation means, that their church literally teaches they are "eating god". I told three Catholic women that while still Catholic and starting to study and they were incredulous.

Great article :) and wonderful how you were able to incorporate warnings about the Mormon and other churches, and give a gospel message. :)

Anonymous said...

What is your source for calling His Holiness "the Holy Father"? It can work two ways. One can say "the Holy Father" as a calling upon the name of God without internal nor external reference to the man. If your source is mere human judgment, it is not out of the realm of possibility that you err, as prayer done in secret is answered in secret. The fact that the manifestation appears diabolical to you can indeed be a misconception. In essence, do you actually know whether such prayers exist?

Bible Believer said...

I was a Catholic and the Pope is referred to as "The Holy Father" all over the place. It seems odd you would question this, as it is a title used all over the place. Right from the Vatican...

http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/index.htm

This is not a misconception but a reality. Jesus said "Call no man father", and well the Catholics even call their priests "Father".

Anonymous said...

At least you admit to being only an outsider looking into some externals of Catholicism. Your judgment that the Catholic calls someone,
(in this case, the 'pope', or a priest) "Holy Father", might only be based on your senses, not on the intellect. Catholicism has the longest
running Christian presence, the word 'catholic' was first used to encapsulate the teachings of Jesus Christ by St. Ignatius of Antioch, the
child that Jesus picked up saying, "Do not hinder the children to come to me." Yet the election process of the Vicarage has deteriorated, seemingly, as much as the many judgments against Her (the Church).

When the prophecy at Fatima was given, viz., "the Holy Father will have much to suffer", the same is true. One can see with the intellect and know the Father who is in Heaven who is the father of all of us, and one can call upon the name of "Holy Father" through the vicarage of the Holy See, that very group intellect and still not actually call a man "father".

The actual jurisprudence of this hierarchy of communication concerning the private and public use of "Holy Father" is handled with the
verse, "Your Father who sees in secret, rewards in secret." If, indeed, one is deliberately calling someone "father" against Christ's
command, God's wrath is then justified, whether in private or in public. However, one may actually be calling upon God's name when we
hear one speak to the vicar and say "Holy Father".

Bible Believer said...

I was raised Catholic and educated in a Catholic school and by nuns, but left young. So I am certainly an "outsider" now but am an ex-Catholic.

Jesus says "call no man father" it's pretty direct and Rome says to do otherwise, who should we follow?

As for Rome being the long lived, this proves nothing, Hinduism is 5,000 plus years old. {Check out the latest thread on the Hindu Catholic overlaps, I am sure you'll find them of interest.

Are you a Trad Catholic that believes in the concept of anti-popes? Be done with Rome, repent and trust in Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, and realize the RCC was rotten from the beginning.

http://galatiansfour.blogspot.com/2011/05/trad-catholics-and-sede.html


The demomic apparitions do mix truth and lies, one interesting one is the one who claims the Antichrist will hold the seat of Rome, of course that has been for always.

When someone tells me "Words have no meaning" and you seek to tell us, that a person is not calling someone "father" when they refer to them as "Holy Father" that is nothing but double talk. I am quite familiar with this sort of thing in Catholicism so you are not the only one lead to think this way, but pray one day, you will have your thinking cleared up by the Holy Spirit.

Anonymous said...

The Roman demonization campaigns are the substance (reason) of what one reads in prophecy, "never before were the Romans so wronged".

Consider, if you would for a moment, this option, supported by Scripture. God could have chosen any tribe, tongue, and/or nation to bring His Only-Begotten Son into the world. He could have chosen another nation and/or kingdom to stay the reins of the ship, as He has done with Rome. The worst of heresies have originated in various men, none of whom have been bishops nor successors to St. Peter. Though you paint a picture including the glitz, even if the picture were drab, there is the element concerning the spirituality of the antichrist itself which you have not presented correctly. It is the perverse spirit which occupies the Temple of the Holy Spirit, not the visible vicar.

You do not have a grasp, and understandably so, of the horrific mechanism which produces the "king despised" of Daniel. Those passages of verse do not contain a conviction against the king because it is written, "strengthened, but not by his own force".

If anything, you have been only a hasty judge, and a biased one.

Bible Believer said...

What do you mean by Roman demonization?

Actually God chose the Jews to bring His son into the world....how did that get switched in your mind from Jesus being a Jew to being a Roman? The Roman empire was just the world system that had taken over Israel at that time. How can you claim to me that the "worst of heresies" have not taken place in your popes when they claim Allah of Islam is God, or preach all religions should come together for ;brotherhood". What element of the Antichrist are you talking about? What horrific mechanism has not one of the Pope's indulged themselves in? What is your take on the Vatican's love for the other false religions of Mystery Babylon?

Anonymous said...

John Paul II kissed a copy of the Holy Koran and right away the Koran's 'allah' is God - that is what I mean by hasty. Not everything you present is Roman demonization. But of those who present Roman demonization as a method of public appeal - I will have the last say because Jesus Christ Himself has raised me, St. John the Baptist, from the dead, to the office of Petrus Romanus (Peter the Roman). I have made it a point to study and understand God's mercies through Roman Catholicism. That fact remains that if God had chosen Lithuania to be the seat of His Church regardless of imperial presence, you would be harping against Lithuania and Lithuanians. You look at Rome and only see sin, yet you wouldn't have your Bible today if it weren't God's efforts through Rome to make sure that you had a copy via translators and various doctors. Be careful of your judgments - even Mohammed who died in Medina shall rise before you. The simple fact that the "king despised" in Daniel was murdered before he even reached puberty is evidence of the horrific mechanism - this is something I have gone through, after having been born like Jesus, through the power of the Holy Ghost, put to death, and then resurrected some 1,925 years later.

No matter how dark a picture you describe, it can only have God is its author, as God is the cause of all things.

As the body of Christ has many members, yet remains only one body - I preach only One God, only One Faith, and only One Religion.

Bible Believer said...

"John Paul II kissed a copy of the Holy Koran and right away the Koran's 'allah' is God - that is what I mean by hasty."

You need to inform yourself...

John Paul II, basically said directly that ALLAH of Islam is God, as well as Benedict.

RIGHT FROM THE VATICAN WEBSITE...

http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/john_paul_ii/speeches/1985/may/documents/hf_jp-ii_spe_19850509_partecipanti-simposio_en.html

"ADDRESS OF POPE JOHN PAUL II
TO THE PARTICIPANTS IN THE COLLOQUIUM
ON «HOLINESS IN CHRISTIANITY AND ISLAM»

Thursday, 9 May 1985

Dear Friends,

It is a special joy for me to be able to welcome you, our guests who follow the faith of Islam, to Rome for the colloquium on "Holiness in Christianity and Islam". My fraternal greetings go as well to those Christians who have been taking part in the colloquium. As I have often said in other meetings with Muslims, your God and ours is one and the same, and we are brothers and sisters in the faith of Abraham. Thus it is natural that we have much to discuss concerning true holiness in obedience and worship to God."

I'll repeat what JPII said again in the above..

YOUR GOD AND OURS is ONE AND THE SAME.

So many this new information will help you see what I am talking about.

"I will have the last say because Jesus Christ Himself has raised me, St. John the Baptist, from the dead, to the office of Petrus Romanus (Peter the Roman)."

Huh? This sentence is written oddly, it almost sounds like you are telling me you are John the Baptist.
" even Mohammed who died in Medina shall rise before you."

What does that mean?

Anonymous said...

I have no argument with a Catholic bishop explaining to muslims that there is one God - especially as I've seen many a muslim writer try to pass off Christ as someone less than Mohammed who died in Medina. You present the matter as if Christ and His Church should suffer opprobrium for the outstretched open arms.

I have learned that "Allah" is the Arabic word for God. But the 'allah' of the Koran is the devil in poetic disguise until the final sura (chapter) when the fallen angel admits to defeat. Most Christians do not know this, let alone muslims.

I mean there is confirmed and proper order in Christ sending His angel to prepare His way again by granting that messenger, who writes this, rebirth through normal consummation some 1,925 years after being born by the power of the Holy Spirit. In the list of names given through St. Malachy, there are no others save for Christ as Judge after Peter the Roman. The ship has made its journey and begins its Resurrection as it arrives at port. As I see it, as the hairs on our heads are numbered, so are the souls which God has made, and that, too, has an important meaning at the Resurrection.

Bible Believer said...

"Allah" of Islam is not God, and JPII was talking to MUSLIMS not those using Allah semantically for God.

Catholicism teaches that all "gods" of false religions represent God, I hear that constantly from Catholics, when the OT teaches over and over about false "gods" or really spirits and demons.

So if you see 'allah" of islam" as a devil, why do you accept JPII, saying that this spirit is the "one and same" as "God"? I do not understand the thinking here.

Of course I believe Catholicism worships NOT the God of the Bible but the false "gods" of Mystery Babylon, so in a way JPII got it correct.

Anonymous said...

Because there is only one God.

I did not come to the understanding of the Holy Koran on my own. I read the studies of another who was challenged by a muslim in typical assaultive fashion - the muslim attacking the Holy Bible. If muslims really understood their book of faith, they wouldn't attack the Holy Bible and they wouldn't be muslims any more because the Holy Koran is not a stand alone book of faith.

The Koranic Bible explains the Koran in terms of its roots from the Holy Bible.

http://www.freeforum101.com/koranicbible/

Jellen said...

Personally I feel that Obama is the AC. If you google Obama antichrist there is a lot of good info.

Bible Believer said...

Well you can see I believe the Pope is the Antichrist, though some Christian brothers and sisters tell me they are open to other possibilities. There is supposed to be a false prophet too, and a lot of those folks believe the Pope will serve that role. I do not believe Obama is the AC, though Obama, definitely is a servant to the AC and the New World Order system. Looking at how most world leaders visit with and obey the Pope, that includes Obama, explains the fornication with kings outlined in Revelation.

Edward Palamar said...

Don't be surprised then, if Jesus asks you over for a visit, when you arrive, He throws you out. The chief AC is a king of wrath, resultant from the contempt of men - it is a case of what goes around, come around. Calling the "pope" the Antichrist is a last ditch effort by one finally seeing past error - but it is too late - it is symptomatic of a broader guilt.

Bible Believer said...

The Lord has shown me His care and comfort. What an odd thing to say about the AC, as if his wrath is deserved from the contempt of men? No men will LOVE the Antichrist, the same way the Pope is loved today. The Pope is antichrist even if some believe he is not THE Antichrist. So are you a Catholic?

Edward Palamar said...

I'm glad He has shown you those good things, BB. I'm the same anonymous with whom you conversed back in July here. Perhaps we arrive at the word 'catholic' from two different perspectives and the closest they can ever be is in such conversation.

What did the men who efforted to build the tower of Babylon receive for compensation? Can it be any better for those who build the king of wrath? I think not.

Bible Believer said...

So what does catholic mean to you?

It means universal...[one world religion] I do not support the Protestants who have glommed on to it's use usually in daughter churches that are joined with Rome.

Whose building the king of wrath? There is nothing antibiblical about warning about deceivers.

Edward Palamar said...

Catholic means encapsulating (taking into account) all of Christ's teachings.

ben chaplin said...

Isn't the anti-Christ also pictured as the Assyrian? Thus linking him to the Muslim Imam Mahdi?

Anonymous said...

Yes. I believe your point as truth. I have visited many types of Christian churches. God is there teaching in a way each needs to hear - to Believe. But when I have also studied the catholic religion - there are too many nonbiblical ideals being practiced. Just like you pointed out- we are to call no other father except our Father which is in Heaven. True.I believe the pope very well is the antichrist we have been warned of. But including the Rothschilds- somehow.

Bible Believer said...

The Rothchilds actually luciferian not "Jewish" are the Pope's bankers.

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" THE JESUIT AGENDA AND THE EVANGELICAL CHURCH"!




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AVENUE OF LIGHT said...

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" THE JESUIT AGENDA AND THE EVANGELICAL CHURCH"!




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Edward Palamar said...

The world will never end because Christ is seated at the right hand of God the Father, ruling, reigning and judging His people :

Today, Bright Monday, April 6, 2015 A.D., is the 937th day in the 1,290 and 1,335 day periods of Daniel 12:11 & 12, respectively.

Of May 8, 2016 A.D., it was foretold more than 2,500 years ago, and written :

"Blessed is he who waits and comes unto 1,335 days."

Great and Holy Friday, March 25, 2016 A.D., begins the final 45 days of the 1,335 day period.

This is the judgment of fire foretold in :

2 Peter 3:10-14 Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)

10 But the day of the Lord shall come as a thief, in which the heavens shall pass away with great violence, and the elements shall be melted with heat, and the earth and the works which are in it, shall be burnt up.

11 Seeing then that all these things are to be dissolved, what manner of people ought you to be in holy conversation and godliness?

12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of the Lord, by which the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with the burning heat?

13 But we look for new heavens and a new earth according to his promises, in which justice dwelleth.

14 Wherefore, dearly beloved, waiting for these things, be diligent that you may be found before him unspotted and blameless in peace.

Edward Palamar said...

Lumen Gentium, 23

does not refer to the Roman Pontiff as "The Holy Father".

Any equating of the two is purely subjective and is not directly indicated as such at the Vatican website.

Anonymous said...

Protestant "historicism" in my eyes is partially correct. The book by EB Elliot has many holes in it, and he's a false prophet. He predicted the return of Christ would be at the beginning of the 20th century. The whole "historicist" view was what he promoted. Now there is a new historist view that people like the SDA church believe. The one thing they got correct is the papacy being the antichrist. The word "anti" in scripture means in place of, and "vicar" means substitute. The papacy literally admits to being antichrist. I believe historicism when they say Daniels "70 weeks" have been fulfilled, because it has. It was all a prophecy so the Israelites would know the time frame when the redeemer would arrive. There is not one verse in there that refers to antichrist. It was the Jesuit Francisco Ribera who took these scriptures in Daniel and invented the "futurism" end time doctrine. All this was created for was to take people eyes and minds off of the papacy being antichrist. You are correct BB, it was part of romes counter reformation. The papacy has fulfilled every scripture about antichrist, including 2 thess 2. He (pope) has set in the temple of God (the church) claiming to be God (holy father) since 606 AD when the Roman empower Phocas crowned the bishop of Rome as "universal bishop". This is when the papacy first started. The papacy is the seat of antichrist, and is a dynasty. You can call him antichrist, and it can mean both an individual, and a dynasty, just like the king of England was both one person, and a dynasty. There will obviously be one final antichrist (Jesus warned of many) sitting in this throne when Jesus comes to destroy it with the brightness of his coming. It's very hard for me to imagine most of the book of revelation, and bible prophecy is waiting to be fulfilled in a three and a half year time period as dispensationalists teach. Why are people waiting for antichrist, when he's been on earth since 606AD? Boniface III was the first universal bishop and was given this title by Phocas who was a Roman general and usurped the throne. It's even admitted on "new advent.org" under Boniface III......James

Anonymous said...

It boggles my mind when people attempt to justify the antichrist papacy. I guess they never read about Alexander VI (Borgia) who had a bastard son name Cesar through incest and made him a cardinal. This is just one example, and most defiantly on the tamer side when it comes to profanity. A lot of the things that are recorded about some of the popes are too raunchy to even list. Ohh! But they are "holy father" lol....James