Tuesday, November 30, 2010

Emergents Remind Me of Unitarian Universalists!



When I meet Emergents or talk to them mostly on line, they remind me of UUs. As people know on this blog, I am an ex-Unitarian Universalist as well as ex-Catholic [cradle Catholic]. For back ground on the Unitarian Universalist church, read this blog article.

I remember a few years ago, the Emergent movement was seen as a separate movement, with their own websites, and books, and more, but they have moved more into the mainstream of the so called Christian church where their leaders and books are accepted. In fact years ago, when warning about Emergents, very few knew who they were, "aren't those new hippies who break out the lava lamps and have church sitting on couches in a coffee shop?" To me, Emergents hold the same world view of most of my used to be fellow Unitarian Universalists except they throw a little Christian lingo into the mix and see to have a penchance for wearing goatees [among the men] for some reason.

One of the main websites for Emergents, just so you can get a feel for what the Emergent movement entails is the OOZE website. Interesting name that. One magazine out there promoting CCM music, the latest rock bands, and Emergent books, is called Relevant and can give you a picture of the young Emergent movement.

The Emergent church often adheres to Leftist politics, forming the opposite side of the coin to the false right politics within the church. [the false culture wars and delusion of the so called Christian Right. The Emergent movement is designed to appeal to young people in their 20s and 30s but is bringing older people in well. As I have stated before there are many good articles describing the Emergent movement and how it is a road to Rome bringing Catholic mysticism into the evangelical churches.

There is much about the Emergent movement that reminds me of my almost 13 years in the Unitarian Universalist Association.

1. Exploration, and acceptance of other religions as pathways to truth. The UUs see all religions as all pathways up the same mountain to 'god". Emergents praise other false religions in the same way. See here, here, and here. Seeing the "gods" of false religions as all representing "god" or archetypes of "god" as it were.. The Emergents speak of Jesus but seem no different from those who praised Jesus Christ as a "great moral teacher" within the UU church. New Agers in and out of the UU considered Jesus Christ a "great avatar" among MANY. This too is the Roman Catholic indoctrination [read Nostra Aetate] where the Catholic church speaks of the 'jesus" as the "universal savior" that will save even those in false religions.


As I have stated before, here the Unitarian Universalist church is involved too in many of the interfaith activities of the Roman Catholic church. UU leaders have paid visits to the Vatican and been involved in Vatican 2 as you can see there. I have found other organizations with both UU and Catholic involvement. The Unitarian Universalist Association is VERY involved in the interfaith movement.

The Emergents love and support the interfaith movement too. One example was the Seeds of Compassion event with the Dalai Lama leading the way, that had Emergent leaders involved. [see second to the last link on that too]. The unity with other religions, and praise for their endeavors pours from Emergent circles.I was taught no different in the UU, told to unite with "like-minded" religions over and over. In fact the UU, spoke constantly of the unity of the world and in bringing all religions together.

Remember my prevailing theme on this blog, Mystery Babylon overlaps with Rome heading the pack; spiritually one will either be with the "one mind of the beast" or standing up for Jesus Christ.






In fact Emergent churches have become more and more like the UU especially when it comes to interfaith, there are Emergent churches, that almost fully resemble Unitarian Universalist congregations that preach unity of all religions instead of even bothering to point to Christianity or seeing it as just another spoke in the universalist wheel. Faith House of Manhattan, would be an example of one of these. [look to the right to the supporters, there is the "friend of the Emergent Village" logo] You want to see Emergent one world religion stuff taken to it's zenith, that link will tell you all you need to know.

I somehow doubt there is any witnessing of the gospel going on with these Wiccans!


What is the message there? That its only big "meanies}, who do not embrace the religion of the Wiccans nor embrace "The Other"? Even here we see the usual theme of supposed xenophobia pushed on people to get them to conform. We can be friendly to unbelievers, talk with them, etc, but religiously, it's our duty NOT to have tolerance rap sessions while embracing their religion but to preach the gospel and warn them of what they have been deceived by.

2. Bad Liberal Politics. [remember I see a lot of bad conservative politics too] If the global elites desire it, they are on board. I noticed doing research for this article the Unitarian Universalist Association is shilling for MORE immigration even as Americans go jobless, no surprises there. Isn't it interesting how they preach the same exact message as the Roman Catholic bishops in America? One can understand the plight of impoverished Mexicans, here we see the same mentions of the "common good" and promotion of globalist open borders. When visiting the churches here, I told a friend, its like all these so called Christians turned Unitarian Universalist or something? Bad liberal politics and liberation theology and preaching globalism wasn't just limited to the United Methodists anymore. Emergents focus on the same agendas of the left, liberation theology--twisted forms of social justice. Basically what you get is the Tower of Babel globalist reconstructionism but this time sold from the leftist ideology side instead of the Dominionist "right" side. It all goes to the same place, support of one world government, and the one world religion. I sat in a UU churches for years hearing their speeches on racism [which actually brought more division and strife between people], entreaties for the planet to join together, pleads for money for the latest leftist dicator they supported while those just 2 miles down the street went hungry. There was the day they asked us to weep copious tears over Bali, while the local homeless pushed their shopping carts down the streets, as well as the open support of Communism, and globalism. Emergents are supportive of every globalist program out there too. Sadly the powers that be know how to exploit natural human altruism and concern for others and misguide it.

3. Transcendentalism, Mysticism and experiential methods. The UU church expores the mysticism of many religions. Transcendentalism which in the early years stood against some of the intellectualisms of the 1800s actually became a core part of the UU church and serves as some of its foundations, where intuition ruled the roost, as the foundation for truth, instead of religious doctrine. This tree has many other branches too including the New Thought movement, we see a huge strain of these methods in Quakerism, Religious Science and Divine Science. When I was UU, many of the ministers preached the messages of the Transcendents, ranging from Ralph Waldo Emerson, to more modern poets used in religious services. Truth was not seen as "outside" but within the person, where "the god within' was to bring forth new truth and revelations. That is the best way I can explain it. As for the mysticism, exploring the different mystical rituals of pagan religions is now unknown in Unitarian circles, this can include everything from out and out meditation practices, doing Zen-drawing where you draw the same patterns over and over to celebrating summer solstices or repeating Hindu mantras. I saw everything from Hindu sand painting at a UU church, where the picture was brushed away, to burning slips of paper with "requests to the universe" written upon them.

With the Emergents, I have seen a fascination with Eastern religions, mysticism and depending on one's intuition too, for truth. Some even come up with new unusual ways such as this online technique with a lava lamp to lead people into more tranced out states and to have what are basically religious experiences that take the place of religious truth. Now when I was UU, there was the more New Age, pagan, experiential side, that differed from the more hard-nosed agnostics, scientific and material atheists that made up the congregations but it was ever present nonetheless.

The Emergents call it experiential worship, and it focuses on false religious experiences, here there is a lot of parallels and overlap with Catholicism, Taize worship where the same 5 words are sung over and over to bring on into a meditative state, candle lighting, producing "mysterious" atmospheres chanting and dimmed lights included and special rock-light shows, to influence people. [some of these are detailed in the PBS video above]

4. Truth is NOT Absolute. The Emergents speak of postmodernism referring to themselves even as "postmodern Christians", and Unitarian Universalists speak of themselves as being postmodern in outlook and they are! I know postmodernism is a hard term to understand, but it questions thoughts and reality itself. It questions modernism and the development of humanity into modern times but replaces it with more vain philosophy. When people talk about "deconstructionism" and "cultural relevancy", just remember who is the author of confusion. The main premise of post-modernism is TRUTH IS RELATIVE. This was the prevailing siren call of the counterculture. If you want a word to make your head hurt, post-modernism is it. Here is the best definition I could find for it:

A postmodern idea/concept/etc is one that recognizes that 'true' objectivity is impossible to obtain, and that any idea/concept/etc must be defined in relation to it's social/political/etc context, and by the biases/experiences/etc of the people(s) doing the defining/creating/etc.


Read that again, postmodern thinking believes that 'true' objectivity is impossible to obtain. Now think about how that will impact one's Christian beliefs, and you can understand how this movement has been used to bring antichrist teachings into the churches worldwide. Now think about that and how it accompanies the Emergent and UU rejection of absolute truth. This also plays into their use of inculturation, where in pleading there is no one truth, that there are many different truths for different cultures and moral relativism rules. When there is no truth, any more's of any culture will do.

The Christian stands for absolute truth, but the Emergents and UUs reject it. When I was UU, they would tell me, truth was ever evolving [this is present in the Emergent view of a changed Christianity], no one human holds the definite truth, and would retell that awful story about the elephant and blind men where the blind men would feel a different part of the elephant claiming it was something else, and that this means humankind was condemned to live in the dark, and none of us could be sure about anything, and we had to at least consider truth in other religions and places. I've since heard this story told in other liberal churches. The main message is doubt, and you cannot trust your own mind. It is fascinating seeing the wikipedia link that this story is a well-used fable in other false religions such as Hinduism and Buddhism. Again Satan's lies remain the same in the whole pantheon of Mystery Babylon. Postmodernism is confusion and VAIN PHILOSOPHY. Never trust any religious message that preaches doubt and confusion. Reject this lying garbage of Satan. The Bible tells us we can have certainty and that is what the Christian must believe.

Luk 1:4 That thou mightest know the certainty of those things, wherein thou hast been instructed.


This is why sound biblical doctrine in these circles is dangerous and divisive. The Catholic's called the fundamentalist belief in the Bible as intellectual suicide in 1994. Emergents consider fundamentalists to be dangerous and divisive, and arrogant in their assertions of truth. UU's preach tolerance for everyone but Bible Christians.

I don't agree with this pastor on the video, on everything but he is spot on about the Postmodernism and the Emergent movement. This video will also help you understand what I am pointing at.



For me talking to Emergents is like dealing with Unitarian Universalists who use a few Christian words for kicks. That said, God set me free from the Unitarian Universalist church after literally years of indoctrination, Emergents and UUs can be set free and led to the gospel. I am proof of that. They need the Holy Spirit and God's Word to break through the deceptions they have been given.

The Book of Proverbs #1: Do You Cry to God for Knowledge and Understanding?



One of my favorite books in the Bible, is the Book of Proverbs, that should be the Christian's "self help" book, not the psychology and secular based literature out there that will give you bad worldly advice often with a New Age tinge. The whole Bible serves as the Christian's guide, but Proverbs serves a purpose too in being a very direct book. One thing about Proverbs it does point to the harlot too in different ways and warns of the wicked, but one other overriding theme in Proverbs, is the crying to God for knowledge and understanding. This book helps a Christian bring their mind into conformity with God. One thing I have always said about God, is He wants you to use your brain, unlike so many of the cults that cry for you to shut your brain off either for contemplative or blind obedience purposes, this is what God said: Isa 1:18 "Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD". God desires for you to learn and grow in Him. A Christian open to this teaching of the Holy Spirit will be less open to deception via the wolves out there.

Right from the start, the Book of Proverbs outlines it's purpose:

Pro 1:3 To receive the instruction of wisdom, justice, and judgment, and equity;
Pro 1:4 To give subtilty to the simple, to the young man knowledge and discretion.
Pro 1:5 A wise [man] will hear, and will increase learning; and a man of understanding shall attain unto wise counsels:


Notice there, it outlines how one will learn wisdom, justice and judgement, etc. The theme for the desiring of knowledge continues through out Proverbs:

Pro 2:3 Yea, if thou criest after knowledge, [and] liftest up thy voice for understanding;

That is one thing for Christians to ask themselves, do you cry for knowledge, do you ask God to understand? Something to think about. This is one thing Christians should do often is ask God to understand something and if they are asking questions about something to ask God for the answers and have the Holy Spirit lead them to the solution. There have been many times, I have told God: "Lord, I do not understand, please show me what to do, or what the truth is" and with time, and prayer and studying His Word, God will never disappoint a sincere request for wisdom and understanding. By the way, apply this to ALL areas of life, not just religious inquiries, but day to day life, where prayers for wisdom in handling different situations, is the best way to go.

Proverbs is direct in warning about wickedness in the world and pitfalls the Christian will encounter, of course these verses as I have mentioned point to the harlot as well.

Pro 3:7 ¶ Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the LORD, and depart from evil.

Here the Christian is to be humble before the Lord, and realize it is the Lord's wisdom that keeps you going. I see some who fall into the 2 Tim 3:7 pit of ever learning but never coming into the truth where pride rules. The humble Christian knows there is a lot for them still to learn.

Here is another interesting verse from the same chapter:

Pro 3:19 ¶ The LORD by wisdom hath founded the earth; by understanding hath he established the heavens.

Pro 3:20 By his knowledge the depths are broken up, and the clouds drop down the dew.

Pro 3:21 My son, let not them depart from thine eyes: keep sound wisdom and discretion:

This points to the wisdom and understanding of God and then implores people to not let their eyes fall away from the wisdom and discretion of God. This theme as well as many others runs through the book of Proverbs. [when the Bible repeats something, it means it is very important]

Pro 4:5 Get wisdom, get understanding: forget [it] not; neither decline from the words of my mouth.

Pro 7:4 Say unto wisdom, Thou [art] my sister; and call understanding [thy] kinswoman:

Pro 8:9 They [are] all plain to him that understandeth, and right to them that find knowledge.

Pro 8:10 Receive my instruction, and not silver; and knowledge rather than choice gold.


Pro 14:6 A scorner seeketh wisdom, and [findeth it] not: but knowledge [is] easy unto him that understandeth.

The Society of Greed and Materialism

This was last week, people running over each other to get cheap deals on foreign made items that have helped to bankrupt this nation:





One thing I notice with alarm is the growing materialism in society. Elsewhere on this blog I have talked about the treatment of the poor and the imploding economy. Reading about people speaking of their shopping sprees, and the chaos that ensued--[some stores opened even at 3am in the morning]. Some of those who live life, on more humble stratas look at a video like the above, and think that this world has gone insane. One benefit of being apart from it all, and unable to afford the piles of toys, is the freedom of being off the hamster wheel of consumerist acquisition. The modern world is caught up in a love for money and material possessions, that definitely has run out of control. By the way this is just one of the incidents, there are many others. See here,here and here too. This brings up the question, if things get even worse, how will things be when the grocery shelves are empty or there are multitudes of people going hungry?

Christians look at modern American society especially and know something has been lost, people have forgotten what is important. Societal contracts are breaking down, greed and profits come first to many corporations who send jobs overseas and care nothing for the communities that helped build them up in the first place. Values and morals set aside for keeping up with the Joneses. The fallen away churches are more busy "selling" to upper class suburban demographics, then forming true "church families" where the Body looks out for one another. On the individual level, frugality, a sense of community instead of looking out for #1, have all deteriorated.

1Ti 6:10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

I always found this verse to be interesting, the "piercing themselves through with many sorrows" aspect I find to be part of this whole money-grubbing culture. Many get in this trap, where they always want "more!", "more!", "more"!. Some of those gadgets the people will buy by next year very well will be broken and forgotten in a corner somewhere covered in dust, as they search for their next fix. The life of seeking after empty pleasures, and nothing but, is sorrowful and sad life.

Now there is nothing wrong with Christians giving presents to friends or enjoying things life has to offer including electronic technology, I am not telling people to go live in a hut and eat a cold can of beans for every meal, [though I have known people forced to live this way] but American society seems to have lost every aspect of good sense. The Bible speaks to having balance about it all:

Proverbs 30:8 Remove far from me vanity and lies: give me neither poverty nor riches; feed me with food convenient for me:

The loss of balance plays into the imploding economy, very few thought out how buying cheap foreign made goods, would impact the economy. Very few in that crowd are thinking about planning ahead for the future even knowing that the unemployment rate and failing economy would mean maybe needing to help friends or family members or being more frugal or being good stewards of whatever money they have as they trample their fellow human beings to get a "good deal". [by the way there are people who have died in these consumerist melees.]

Nowadays you meet many poor and unemployed people who speak of the stigma in American society, they lose friends, and others, as they can't find jobs or get thrown out of the whole rat race. People more and more are judged by what they own, how much money they have, what they can afford to drive and dress like. People see their lives as being fulfilled by the latest big screen televisions, DVDs and possessions. One thing happening in American society [is this happening elsewhere in the world?] is people are actually becoming addicted to THINGS, as you can see on the spiritually troubling show Hoarders. I saw a few of these shows, and one trend I noticed is many seemed very lonely replacing people with things. I feel worse about the young people, who once they get out of college, often are finding out the jobs are not there, and feeling unworthy as human beings in a culture that grades everything by money and financial success. Some of those pressures can be lifelong. The "piercing of many sorrows" can include self condemnation, envy and worse. This is why you see people falling into total despair.

Mark 4:19 "And the cares of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, and the lusts of other things entering in, choke the word, and it becometh unfruitful."

The Bible warns about the deceitfulness of riches, and we know that Jesus warned about how it would be harder for a rich man to get into heaven. For all the money and possessions, America has become a more unhappy and socially disconnected society. One will see a lot more down to earth happiness in a small working class rural town, vs a high achieving affluent "wealthy" community. One side smiles a lot more! Guess which one? Remember the saying from the 80s, when "greed became good" and they told people "those who die with the most toys win". It seems some have taken that to heart.

Timothy 3:

1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.

2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,

3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,

4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;

Sunday, November 28, 2010

Ignatius of Loyola and His Vain Imagination



Warning: pray before reading any of the spiritual exercises, this stuff is evil and meant to lead people into vain imaginations, that go against scripture. I have included only a few examples of what I am talking about to show here. They are all from THIS CATHOLIC SOURCE.

Saint Ignatius of Loyola, is the man who founded the Jesuits, known for His SPIRITUAL EXERCISES, which Catholics would consider HOLY but when it gets right down to it are based in vain imaginations, false visions, sorcery and witchcraft.

Rom 1:21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified [him] not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

His "Spiritual Exercises are getting more and more popular in Catholic circles and even apostate Protestant circles. Basically what they entail are exercises of the visual imagination or "contemplations" or what the Bible warns against as VAIN IMAGINATIONS, these of course are mixed in with rites, rituals and Catholic prayers. Think of Catholic mystics in this regard, how they always have visions of "jesus" or what really happened in his life, instead of reading the Bible to learn what really happened, they sit back and "visualize" it.

The visualizations are so evil, I don't want to lead anyone to have to struggle with the things they would do to one's mind. I had to pray even from reading this nonsense. So I will leave the EWTN link with a warning, to be very careful going to even read this stuff and do it with prayer and all carefulness in God. I went through and picked a few examples to explain what this stuff is about.

Let me tell you some of what I read there...

One exercise tells people to "visualize" hell and imagine the cries, suffering and horrors there. Another exercise tells people to visualize themselves standing in chains before God, and to see how God would look at you and judge your spiritual state by that...all made up in the person's mind. {this also preaches against the freedom of Christ in the Bible.} Some weird precepts include shutting all lights, no matter how small out of the room. Here's another one:


Third Way. The third, to chastise the flesh, that is, giving it sensible pain, which is given by wearing haircloth or cords or iron chains next to the flesh, by scourging or wounding oneself, and by other kinds of austerity.

Note. What appears most suitable and most secure with regard to penance is that the pain should be sensible in the flesh and not enter within the bones, so that it give pain and not illness. For this it appears to be more suitable to scourge oneself with thin cords, which give pain exteriorly, rather than in another way which would cause notable illness .


Going further more vain imaginations center on imagining Mary's rooms in Nazareth, and to imagine one's self as "God" looking down upon the earth at all the different human capacities, and then to visualize the Trinity on their thrones looking down on the earth and "imagining" what they would be saying about it all. This includes making up whatever Mary is up to and a few angels. Another visualization is to be there when Jesus is born and try and picture for yourself as a slave serving Mary, Joseph and Jesus as a baby needs as they are in the stable. Another visualization exercise is visualizing Lucifer and Jesus together in Jerusalem. Then there is a longer list of "visualizing" different events in the life of Jesus just like that Nun {Anne Catherine Emmerich}, whose writings inspired Mel Gibson to write the move "The Passion" since he turned to her Medieval era book of "visions".

Remember her, where she wrote a book imagining herself as being THERE, during the life of Jesus as if what she saw was FACT? This is what all this VAIN IMAGINATION, visualization EXERCISES are meant to do, and what ST. Iggy promoted and what the Bible warns against.

Back to Ignatius of Loyola's spiritual exercises, folks believe this about them:

"His Exercises were not a series of pious sermons or edifying notes to be read; they were prescriptions that were meant to put a person in direct communication with God."


2Cr 10:5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ.

Catholic mysticism is not different then the mysticism of other religions [Mystery Babylon overlaps on everything]: more on that later.

Tuesday, November 23, 2010

They Want to Control the Food and YOU!




America is losing it's freedoms fast and every aspect of society is being reigned in under a control system. Many do not know about this, but this week {after Thanksgiving?}, Congress plans to vote on a new draconian law called the "Senate Bill 510 — the Food Safety and Modernization Act". Well we have heard the safety line before haven't we? Those who value safety more then liberty as the old saying goes deserve neither. All this "safety" stuff is why they are literally strip-searching grandma and grandpa at the airport. I don't fly and I refuse to allow some TSA thug to grope me, or to go through one of their harmful to DNA backscatter porn scan machines for the "privilege" of flying. Better to sit in a car for hours, then suffer the indignities of being treated like human cattle. Anyhow back to the food Act, this isn't about shutting down factory farms with their lagoons of feces, and bringing in healthier farming practices but about shutting down small farmers, corporatizing and controlling food supplies. Google Terminator seeds if you want to see human evil in full action worldwide, all the biblical warnings about famine definitely are thought of when you know they have produced sterile seeds on purpose for profit that can infect other crops. America is already getting sick from processed pseudo food, that has had all its nutrients stripped for money-making now they want to put pressure on organic farmers and others, and centralize power when it comes to food including even more regulations. Ask yourself considering the economy how will these expensive regulations help they won't.

I agree with this guy, this is the most evil bill in American history, just the fact that so few know about it, shows how asleep this country is, and how tyranny and wickedness are spreading across this land so fast.

He shares some of the bad details:

S 510 includes, at a minimum:

■A hidden take over of all seed in the US – the end of the country’s control over its food and ensuring all GMOs – corporate owned crops;
■The use of DHS and DOD - animal disease or contamination as a pretext for martial law;
■The extermination of normal farm animals in case of an emergency (to replace with patented GE-animals and force GMO meat);
■The surreptitious arrangement for mandating of pesticides, hormones, antibiotics, irradiation of all food and GMO farming;
■Deceitfully forcing the US under the WTO to end its sovereignty over its own economic policy, resources, energy, health, food;
■The theft of all US farmland via false “traceability” requirements which force farmers onto international contracts that remove their property rights;
■The removal of nutritional supplements because they are the proven superior treatments for cancer, diabetes, Cystic Fibrosis, heart disease, and are essential for preventing disease – ensuring greatly increased illnesses for corporate profit;
■A corporate court outside the judicial system over all Americans, with unlimited penalties and no recourse – ending democratic rights in the US.
Food safety is a corporate lie, and already comes with violence against those providing safe food.

Biotech, agribusiness and pharmaceutical corporations, though they have corrupted government and courts, rigged markets, bribed officials, made closed door arrangements that undo democratic processes, destroyed independent scientists, had independent had armed men go after researchers, and hired military thugs, appear to have tired of even the sham of democratic processes they hide behind, and now are seeking laws that would give them total power and remove the most basic constitutional rights.


I just talk about this stuff to warn, we know where this world is going, no where good. Keep in prayer, God will provide for you. Praise God for freedoms and things we still enjoy today, such as freedom to speak out on the internet. It is heartbreaking watching where America is going. I barely recognize my own country anymore.

Sunday, November 21, 2010

Why is Obama on the Cover of Newsweek as Shiva the Destroyer?


Are they trying to send us a message of some sort?

Considering where America is going, Obama linked to a hindu god that is known as the "Destroyer" doesn't seem to be an accident. I plan to get into more depth on the use of symbols but with some they are getting more and more overt. I had this pointed out to me on an obscure conspiracy website, but I have noticed covers myself that were questionable. I never knew they had a big statue of the Hindu god Shiva in front of the CERN headquarters either, that is creepy. The story is they picked this god, to honor the "dance of sub atomic particles". I guess all warnings about mini-blackholes and opening the abyss, notwithstanding.
The title alone on the Newsweek cover, is very blasphemous in calling a man "God" as well.

Here is a look at Shiva, hindu god of destruction:[a representative of Satan in my book]






This cover is full of occult symbols and more too. See the owl? [There's far more smaller problems too] The title "The New Global Elite" probably is no accident either.

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They are getting more and more in your face. I still remember the Newsweek magazine that announces as the title: "We are all socialists now" with the red and blue hands shaking. [representing the two parties?]

They do tell us what they are up to, but they know most people cannot "see it". Even the fact such things are embraced with the worship of false gods and outward blasphemy speaks for itself.


Act 28:27 For the heart of this people is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes have they closed; lest they should see with [their] eyes, and hear with [their] ears, and understand with [their] heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.









Saturday, November 20, 2010

Azusa Street, Pentecostalism and Calvary Chapel




One thing I should express here, I am not what they call a "cessationist" and do believe there are gifts of the Holy Spirit in operation now. Discernment definitely is listed as one of them, healings do happen today [the real stuff, not what the phony TV preachers parade before us] and more. Deliverance, is something Christians will need more and more as the growing wickedness of the last days grows upon us. I believe tongues were real languages for the preaching of the gospel--interpretation in the church deemed a necessity and see their use today as being rare, but am not closed to the possibilities of this gift perhaps being granted elsewhere in the world. Read this verse, think about why so many places [illustrating different languages] are mentioned.

Act 2:7 And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans?


Act 2:8 And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born?

Act 2:9 Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia,


Act 2:10 Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes,


Act 2:11 Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God.


I do believe there are some truly saved Christians in Pentecostal churches, I have met many and they do have a love for Jesus Christ, even if I am concerned about errors in their churches. There are folks being granted true gifts out there, of discernment and more.

That said though, I see most of the present day Charismatic movement and Pentecostal movement as counterfeit containing falsehood, compromised and fallen away. Most Charismatic and Pente. churches are fully ecumenical, they see the fundamentalist as too rigid especially when it comes to biblical separation. There are links to Roman Catholicism in the Charismatic movement especially, [this will need it's own article]. The majority of TBN preachers come from different flavors of the Pentecostal world such as Word of Faith teachings. There have been some movements already discussed on this blog linked to both, such as the New Apostolic Reformation and the Crowders. Much error, rejection of God's Word and departure from truth exsist in these circles. Looking back at its roots as this blog entry will do, will show you some of those deep concerns.

There is a lot that is suspect about the modern Charismatic and Pentecostal movement, most of us can go easily read on a wide variety of websites, about the false teachers rooted in these movements, the false signs and wonders ranging from gold dust to the laughter of Toronto Blessing and much more. Absolute bedlam and insanity burst out in some of these churches. [Sadly such in the case of that link it leads nonbelievers to reject what they think is Christianity and serves as a negative witness] Some wrongly believe this 'holy laughter' which I found very toxic and disturbing is of God. The deceptions are extreme and obvious. [warning some of these links have worldly music].





One concept I always have found abominable in Pentecostal circles, is the idea of being "slain in the spirit". There is nothing biblical about this. Why would the Holy Spirit basically have people feigning death? This is more about control too. Falling backwards in the Bible is not a good thing!

Jer 7:24 But they hearkened not, nor inclined their ear, but walked in the counsels [and] in the imagination of their evil heart, and went backward, and not forward.




One can tell in extreme Pentecostalism there is the use of auto-suggestion, mind control and use of crowd dynamics to influence behavior. When Benny Hinn 'knocks' people to the floor merely using his white jacket or with a wave of the hand, this is crowd psychology at work.

But it's not all phoniness and manipulation, there are dark spirits being invited into the church via some of these activities. Online one will see even those seeking to expose that some of the actions of these extreme churches match the false things in other religions such as Hindus seeking after Kundalini, and how these manifestations match, which include everything from involuntary body movements to extreme emotional outbursts. There is out and out occult happenings in these churches as they seek false experiences and are led by a mixture of false spirits and charlatanry.

Having visited some Pentecostal churches, [three I am thinking of] no interpretation was ever done as called for in the Bible, when I heard tongues in these churches:

1Cr 14:13 Wherefore let him that speaketh in an [unknown] tongue pray that he may interpret.

I heard none of the rythym or regulated patterns of an actual language, it sounded like babbling. Now many of these people I believe meant well, they were not trying to deceive, but there is some suggestion telling people to open up their minds, and allow whatever to come in and people wanting to fit in or feel the "spirit" probably fell into the habit of uttering some nonsense syllables, or even doing so in hopes that the Spirit would fall upon them. In two of these churches I would leave even mid-service, feeling uncomfortable, believing them too be too modern and compromised: one pastor gave us a sermon praising Christmas talking more about Santa Claus then Jesus, while another one blasted us with heavy and loud rock music, but still remained ignorant of some of the troubling factors related to Pentecostalism. To be honest I found the loudness and activities in these churches alarming. There are several Bible verses that call Christians to be sober which means serious minded.


1Pe 4:7 But the end of all things is at hand: be ye therefore sober, and watch unto prayer.

I have nothing against anyone crying out in joy to the Lord or showing emotion in worship and some of us are more quiet in temperament, but when a church resembles a night club or everyone is yelling to be heard above another, that is a problem.

Now with Calvary Chapel, my particular local never had any Pentecostal tongues or anything of that nature, they also remained pretty sober-minded in service. However as a whole I would later investigate Calvary Chapel and discover its Pentecostal roots. Overall I never signed on to Pentecostalism, while I didn't agree with those who totally rejected the gifts of the Holy Spirit I still remember being bothered by Pentecostals I met elsewhere who would tell me to "empty my mind" and allow the "Holy Spirit" to come in by doing so, I said to this particular fellow: "When I was in the UU, I was instructed to do the same thing in new age meditation and I know on the spiritual level that is opening yourself to all sorts of bad influences and spirits." They didn't agree and told me I had been badly influenced by my non believing past. One thing false emotional experiences that are not centered in truth mislead millions. When people are led to reject all logic and reason, false religion can have a heyday. Never trust any religion or group that tells you to suspend your mind or to shut your thoughts off. God did not make brains to have them become spiritual pudding.

Pentecostalism's earliest roots, where many denominations sprouted from was the 1906 Azusa Street revival in Los Angeles. Here they focused on what they believe were many gifts of the Holy Spirit, and many denominations came out of Azusa street from today's Assembly of God churches, other Pente. churches, and many many more.

Calvary Chapel is kind of Pentecostalism lite: as described here on a Calvary Church website, this is repeated elsewhere too.


Over the years, however, fundamentalism, while it clung to the integrity of God's Word, tended to become rigid, legalistic, and unaccepting of spiritual gifts. Similarly, Pentecostalism became enthusiastic and emotional at the expense of the teaching of God's Word.

Calvary Chapel is the balance between the two. At Calvary Chapel we believe in the gifts of the Holy Spirit mentioned in the Bible, and we encourage their exercise, but always decently and in order, and with the primary emphasis on the Word of God which we look to as our primary rule of faith.1



However reading this long ago, I really had no choice in departing Calvary Chapel, because as I studied more and more of the early history of today's Pentecostalism, there was much that disturbed me. Do not forget that Azusa was where even churches like Foursquare [which Kathyrn Khulman was a member of, and many others [even beyond the ones mentioned above] branched off from.


However reading this, there is much to be concerned about the early history of Pentecostalism and how it has impacted different churches that sprung off from the movement including Calvary Chapel. Do not forget Kathyrn Khulman was a Charismatic and Foursquare is known as a Charismatic church. For years I knew little about the early origins of modern Pentecostalism, but started researching just some time ago, some of what I would find out would be shocking.

William Seymour is the guy that started off the Azusa street revival. Be sure not to miss the connections he had to Charles Fox Parham[read this link too], whose bible college he attended. In the book Fire From Heaven, written by Harvey Cox, who is a liberal Protestant, he supports Pentecostalism so has no motive to include negative things, many things of a disconcerting spiritual nature are discussed.

Speaking about W. Seymour:

From book Fire From Heaven, page 53


"Some note that he had a "vaguely unsettling effect on the people he met and a mysterious manner, that suggested either demonic or divine power. He was also blind in one eye, the result of a youthful bout with smallpox. A white woman named Alma White who met Seymour before he came to California wrote that after she heard him pray, "I felt that serpents and other slimy creatures were creeping around me. After he had left the room, a number of students said they felt he was demon possessed...in my evangelistic and missionary tours, I had met all kinds of religious fakirs and tramps, but I felt he excelled them all"


from another part of the book, this isn't Azusa street but a church that sprung from it: page 68

"Considering the following in October 1907 at Simpsons Bible Tabernacle in New York City, Harold Moss saw the woman who was to become his wife, float five or six feet in the air. We have it from his direct testimony. It was during one of the hundreds of revivals that broke out all over the country following the eruption at Azusa Street. [snip] People prayed all night, spoke in unknown tongues, leaped in the air, shouted, and fell to the floor in trances which the Pentecostals called being 'being slain in the Lord'. Levitations were rare, but there is this remarkable diary entry about his future spouse written by Moss himself:


People were slain everywhere under the mighty power of God, including the ministers on the platform. The case of one young lady, Miss Grace Hammore {who since become my wife} was quite remarkable. She was caught away in the Spirit and rendered wholly oblivious to anything natural. A sweet song of holy song came forth in notes like that of a nightingale and filled the whole building. The power of God took hold of the physical and she was raised from the floor three distinct times. She afterwards stated she had seen a vision of a golden ladder and had started to climb it.
One finds such stories time and time again in Hindu folk mythology and Catholic folk legends as well
."

These are just two examples of different quotes and warnings, about what happened back then. Deeply concerning stuff, and considering where some of the modern Pentecostalism has gone {Ive read about tales of gold falling from the ceiling, and other experiences in different venues}, not good at all.

Now saying this some will say, well Calvary Chapel's balance is good, but even there does a good fruit ever come from a rotten tree? By the way, I met many in Calvary Chapel, who weren't Pentecostal at all, and didn't even believe in tongues. {so yes those folks are in there} but studying the Pentecostal movement as a whole in America, please take time to do this: today's dysfunctions and extremes happened even decades ago. One author online, believes that Calvary Chapel in it's middle of the road approach concerning Pentecostalism, believes it helped give the Charismatic movement credibility it formerly lacked in society:

Calvary Chapel churches have played no small part in giving the Charismatic Movement the respectability it has needed to thrive and flourish. Calvary Chapel, by taking a so-called moderate or "balanced" stand on extrabiblical revelation, such as prophecy and tongues, has made what was once considered extreme and unacceptable now appear to be moderate and credible.


What do you think?

Monday, November 15, 2010

Suffering and Seeking the Comfort of God



I've talked a little about God's Comfort and Love here, but this is going to be expanding on the topic a bit more. Life in this world can get very tough. Tribulation is coming to many. One thing in personal life, is I am seeking to pray to God for answers in dealing with many of life's problems. I know many unbelievers, sadly reject God, saying, Well since God is letting so and so happen, "he" cannot be good!, so they turn their backs on Him, not realizing the reason for suffering in this world is sin, not necessarily always your own, [that too can bring chastisement and consequences] but just sin in general in the world. In other words not knowing the truth, they unwisely blame God.

This is one huge problem, when I talk to so many unbelievers who tell me, "God allows too much suffering".... I once thought that way, not having any spiritual understanding. One person even told me, "Ill start believing in God, when he starts doing for me!" Some of these sentiments are definitely in wanton sinful human rebellion, but too many do not understand why suffering exists in this world and truths about God that would vanquish their misconceptions and perhaps lead them to a place where they would realize their need for God.

This problem troubled me, even as a non-Christian and then later a new believer, why is there so much suffering in the world? This question sadly, leads many away from the truth about and comfort in God. On a near-death bed, I did cry out to God, just some time before I was born again. For many of us, brokenness, and basically being hit by the two by four of life is what leads to crying out to God, repentance and salvation itself.

This life is not easy, young people can get sick, people die, people suffer for years of chronic illness, watching friends die even lingering in nursing homes, horrible diseases like Alzheimer's, witnessing extreme disasters, people grow older, losing a long line of people, too many goodbyes, too much violence and strife and a world that seems to be turning colder and scarier by the moment with the implosion of the economy and threats the news never fails to stop reminding us of minute after minute. There is a reason Job laments his own birth in chapter 3 of the Book of Job.

For the people who ask me, "Hey why does God allow so much suffering?" I tell them, suffering came into the world by sin. This is a fallen world. God made it to be good, but sin entered in once human beings were in the picture. God always has wanted the best for His children and this is why He sent Jesus Christ to save us from our sins John 3:16. It is good for a basic gospel introduction. Here is one article "Why Does God Allow People Suffer?"

Even the Christian though facing hard times, will still wonder why are things getting so tough? Reading the book of Job which basically is the book in the Bible that describes the basics of evil and suffering in this world, is absolutely imperative for the Christian. This book lays it out flat:

Job 5:7 Yet man is born unto trouble, as the sparks fly upward.


Job loses everything, serious skin sores, his house, almost his whole family is killed off, his friends mock him, but the common thread in the story? No matter what happens to him he keeps his faith in God:

Job 13:15 Though he slay me, yet will I trust in him: but I will maintain mine own ways before him.

This book will answer the problem of suffering, why it happens, what you are supposed to do about it, and that what awaits you. I think when Job is back with his family at the end [in heaven] is a glorious moment.

Our society sets people up for more suffering, in a way, that especially in American society, the "think positive" ethos rules and even has entered the churches. It's one thing that has destroyed discernment as no one wants those "old fuddy-duddy doom and gloomers" around who may say "Hey wait a minute!" when people start finding fake gold dust in their Bibles or watch one of the Crowders draw on people's faces with markers. I have known people facing problems like cancer and bankruptcy who have been told they face these things because their "thoughts are not positive enough". Those who run discernment ministries and try to warn about things are often told they are "negative" over and over. I have done articles where I have seen the ill treatment even against the poor that is growing, where 'blaming the victim" holds precedent. Maybe all the false New Age stuff has led more people to embrace the idea of "karma" or everyone gets exactly what they deserve in this life, even though Jesus Christ taught the exact opposite:


Jhn 9:2 And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind?


Jhn 9:3 Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him.


Jhn 9:4 I must work the works of him that sent me, while it is day: the night cometh, when no man can work.


What does this verse mean? It means bad things happen to people and it is not always their fault. Even Paul had an infirmity. Do not forget God will use even weakness for strength. I firmly believe in my case, if I had an easy road, I'd still be rotting spiritually in some Unitarian Universalist church somewhere. So even if the world is bombarding you, and you feel like you are the lowest worm on earth, keep in mind, what God thinks is the most important not this wicked world that glorifies the wicked.

Cor 12:9 And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.

One thing when it comes to one's relationship with God. It should serve as the place of peace in their life. I see it as being able to run to God and spend time with Him and pray to Him, realizing this world is not everything and knowing His Love is true. This is an important part of my life, contrary to nay-sayers who yell at me to "go read my bible" instead of warning about their favorite teachers. Doing this blog, and even warning about all this stuff, it's not easy, sometimes I have just wanted to just cry watching the world [or in this case the "Christian" world] go so absolutely bonkers. Many Christians including myself realize they do feel much grief when it comes to the lost [this shows a heart in the right place!] or those who have forsaken the gospel. God has never failed to give me peace or His comfort when I have asked, and this is a blessing, I cannot even do justice to in writing about it.

2Cr 4:8 [We are] troubled on every side, yet not distressed; [we are] perplexed, but not in despair;

This doesn't mean I ever get very troubled myself, we all are in the flesh and have human weaknesses, but I would like to call on everyone who reads this always remember to seek that comfort of God, even if your whole world implodes, God will be there for you. In other words why we may face trouble, we have the blessed hope of being with Jesus Christ one day. Never forget that. Unlike the world that may mock or be disgusted by your tears, God understands sorrow and will comfort you. Remember even Jesus Christ Himself wept too in the Bible.

Job 16:20 My friends scorn me: [but] mine eye poureth out [tears] unto God.

Psa 6:6 I am weary with my groaning; all the night make I my bed to swim; I water my couch with my tears.


God's comfort is always there for the waiting. Seek joy in Him. He will always provide that. I know for me, knowing Jesus Christ is the foundation of my happiness and joy in life. No matter how bad things get if you are a believer, you have this joy. If you are reading this and not a believer, realize this can be yours too, and understand, the true reasons that suffering and evil have come into this world, and realize the love, God had in sending Jesus Christ to this world in saving you from your sins. Read in the Bible about how the apostles and other Christians kept their joy even in the worse of circumstances, one of my favorite chapters, is Acts 16 when Paul and Silas were singing praises to God even in prison, which helped witness to others. This isn't an easy issue. There are many who will want to avoid the issues of affliction and tribulation[it's definitely neglected in many of the think positive churches out there, but these things must be faced, even to spiritually prepare. God bless those reading this article.


2Cr 8:2 How that in a great trial of affliction the abundance of their joy and their deep poverty abounded unto the riches of their liberality.

2Cr 1:3 Blessed [be] God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies, and the God of all comfort;


Rom 8:35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? [shall] tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?


Rom 8:39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.




Goodbye to Crystal Cathedral?



This is not a sad moment, I think as time goes on, even many popular mega-churches of today which are more the focus of false preaching and fads, will close their doors as well. Why would any of these places last very long centered in false doctrine? Robert Schuller is a false prophet who has influenced many churches and other false preachers, Rick Warren is even considered to be majorly influenced by him. Schuller mixed together false Norman Vincent Peale 'positive thinking" new ageism and California "self esteem" psychobabble, to mislead millions. Crystal Cathedral has twisted "Christianity" for decades and even as late as 2007 held a "Rethinking Conference" where such notables as ex-President H.W. Bush, Chuck Colson, and Rick Warren's wife Kay Warren all showed up.




Even the name itself is New Age; such as in New Age Crystals.

Global Faith Forum Update




Here is an update on the Global Faith Forum, which I blogged about here. This article is entitled "Christians, Muslims, Buddhists Gather to Remove Fear and Stereotypes". This meeting seems really no different to me then when the Pope holds interfaith gatherings, notice in the article they seek to learn from each other. Here this blogger describes some of the going-ons. There is nothing wrong with learning about a false religion to seek to reach others, but to learn from that religion? What can be gained but error?

The forum isn't a gathering of theologians to debate religions, he made clear. Rather, it's an opportunity for people of multiple faiths to get to know one another, start conversations, and learn from each other.

"For me, questions as to who is God and how do we find salvation, are not the primary questions I’m seeking and seeking to answer at this forum," he wrote
. "I’ve come to acknowledge that theologically there are irreconcilable differences in some of what I believe and what others believe. But, how we relate to others, and how we work together in the world is everything."


Everyone wants to live in peace, war is horrible, but this is against what the Bible teaches us, we are not become yoked with unbelievers. Being kind or loving to unbelievers does not entail worldwide endeavors to yoke together.

2Cr 6:15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?

I found this statement odd.


The forum is part of what he calls a "multifaith" effort, and not an "interfaith" one. While interfaith implies dumbing down one's faith to get along with those of other religious traditions, multifaith allows participants to hold on to their convictions and not compromise on what they hold to be true.

Even at the Pope's meetings that is true. Readers on this blog, I must remind that the one world religion will not be everyone lumped together into "ONE" religion per se, but will follow the path of "unity in diversity" where yes they tell all the individuals, they can hold on to their personal convictions. It will be many "different paths" up that one mountain.

Course I ask, where was the personal conviction considering their pointing out to a "conversation with other faiths" in preaching the gospel to the lost?

I always believed the Rome's interfaith meetings would be moved into the evangelical world, looks like that has already started.

Friday, November 12, 2010

Why Did a Calvary Chapel Pastor Meet with a Catholic Archbishop?



The video is of the Catholic bishop [Archbishop Sheenhan]who attended this event: Here the description of the video reads: "Archbishop Michael J. Sheehan invites you to attend the 2010 New Mexico Biblical World View Conference on August 25, 2010 at the Albuquerque Convention Center." That is definitely an ironic name.


I'm going to keep this one short. Read one of my latest articles discussing the Manhattan Declaration, Chuck Colson, and how it is being used by Rome to pull evangelicals into the ecumenical movement. This article reveals information I found out doing research for that blog entry.

Many in Calvary Chapel really cannot conceive of the ecumenical going-ons out there, between leaders within their denomination and even within other evangelical groups. As I explained in the Manhattan Declaration blog entry, Chuck Colson is a main figure, that has worked steadily to bring evangelicals into unity with the Catholic church. It's happening in many denominations and as you will see here, Calvary Chapel has not remained immune. Some can say.. "Not Calvary Chapel, they warn about the Catholic church and the Emergents!" [yes they do from time to time in Bible conferences and elsewhere] but what does this really mean if pastors and others are meeting at ecumenical gatherings? Do not let those fool you who admit some errors of Rome, but then join together with it's top leaders. If there are any pastors in Calvary Chapel against this stuff, have they spoken out? I would like to see.

Read for yourself here from Chuck Colson's website:


"As the planning unfolded, Chuck suggested we invite the world. And so we did—that is, our known world here in New Mexico . We called a meeting for the Archbishop to meet with key Evangelical leaders, Dr. Joseph Bunce of the New Mexico Baptist Conference, Dr. Micheal Dickenson of the New Mexico Assemblies of God, Dr. Fred Huff of the Nazarene Churches of New Mexico, Pastor Robert Hall of Calvary Chapel, Pastor Jian Zhu of the Albuquerque Chinese Christian Church (also a Centurion), Pastor Don Kimbro of New Mexico Christian Churches."


I went to go check to see if Robert Hall is a pastor in Calvary Chapel: he is.

This was done under the auspices of it being a Manhattan Declaration meeting as it states previously in that article:

"Archbishop Sheehan and I decided that day to move forward with a conference for 300 to 500 Catholic and Evangelical clergy, the first ever for New Mexico. We selected two Catholic and two Evangelical scholars to be our presenters, Michael Novak and Joseph Bottum, as well as Chuck Colson and Os Guiness. Archbishop Sheehan suggested that the theme of the conference be the Manhattan Declaration since in January he, other New Mexico Catholic bishops and numerous priests and Evangelical pastors had met together on the anniversary of Roe v. Wade anniversary and signed a paper copy of it along with over 500 others."

I found this OTHER article, entitled "Catholics and Evangelicals Unite". This article admits that a Calvary Chapel church with others helped to sponsor this event. [it is the church where Richard Hall is pastor of] The author who was supportive of this Manhattan Declaration meeting writes:

"I was also thankful for all the sponsors: The Archdiocese of Santa Fe, New Mexico Assemblies of God, The Baptist Convention, Calvary Chapel Rio Rancho, the North American Mainline Chinese Mission, New Mexico Christian Churches, the Traditional Values Action Committee, and various other individual churches."



Here the event appears on the roster at that church[within cache of google]

There are some out there, who have been in disbelief about things I've talked about regarding the ecumenical movement and Calvary Chapel. Basically stating in different ways, it's not happening! Hopefully this will help them wake up. This stuff of course is not just moving into Calvary Chapel but all the denominations which are falling away, especially those who are signed up into the world evangelical movement [such as interacting with BGEA]. Many others have been involved as you can see even Assembly of God is mentioned in the above. It sure seems that the counter-reformation has succeeded.

Do not think this the only event or ecumenical agreement that has happened even with Calvary Chapel. Here is another link [related to the Manhattan Declaration] but this group calls itself: "Renewing American Leadership" with a giant Domionist flavor and provides a list of those who have signed on to this event "Pray and Act for Life, Marriage and Religious Freedom"[it is unclear to me whether that is a list for fasting or just in support of this organization] On the list one will see Catholic archbishops/bishops and priests listed, political figures, a vast variety of famous religious figures like Rick Joyner, a variety of organizations, seminary leaders, TBN's most well known, and Calvary Chapel pastors that include Jack Hibbs, and Phillip Goudeaux


What does this mean? We know that biblical separation has been thrown out the window in so many places. Why do these evangelical leaders feel it is OK to join with a church that preaches a false gospel on any issues? Thus my question of the title, Why Did a Calvary Chapel Pastor Meet with a Catholic Archbishop?" Nothing excuses being equally unyoked with a false religion. Doesn't this man have any ex-Catholics who renounced that false gospel within his own church? Anyhow the evangelicals seem to have been almost fully drawn into the harlot. For Christians who understand why and how this is happening biblically, the overwhelming feeling is of sadness for those being so deceived.

Don't Lose Your Individuality! Stand Alone for God!


I wanted to share this article. It is entitled "Don't Lose Your Individuality". I agree with it, he is right about the insistence on people being "team players". We don't agree on everything but he has that one down pat. Years ago, before I was a believer, in the work place they foisted this "team player' seminar on us, that was very New Age, they had us blindfold co-workers as well as ourselves and have one party lead the blindfolded party through the woods. It was all about suppressing the individual and working as a team only. I was uncomfortable even then and got written up for refusing to be lifted up through what amounted to a rope spider web in the woods. So ridiculous, but it all had a purpose, to advance consensus and "group-thinking".

There is a drive in society for people to conform more and more and Satan desires human drones who are member of one big hive who no longer can think for themselves. Ever wonder why false religions love the symbol of the bee hive? [I'm planning a future blog entry on that]

David Stewart in the article I mention above, mentions the communist factor in this quote:

"To achieve world government, it is necessary to remove from the minds of men their individualism, loyalty to family tradition, national patriotism, and religious dogmas."



Now reading my last article, where I talk about the "common good" and the use of that term by so many in religious and political circles, remember that is what that is all about, everything chosen for the good of the group, and the suppression of the individual. "Be a good team player" and conform, its for the "Common good" is the basic message.
In my life, I've seen a change even from 20-30 years ago where was more differences in dress and ideas, then there is today. Everything has become more codified, locked down and less informal. New technologies while valuable in some ways, such as in writing this blog, have eroded natural human relationships and ways of doing things. A gargantuan centralized media has influenced people to even think the same things, and one reason the system has become so corrupt is people have become more and more indoctrinated. This of course is happening in the churches. Even among evangelicals, I've been told to join the hive. There are many who are very angry with me, and other Christians because we hold to biblical separation in other words and refuse to join with the crowd.

The Bible talks about the "one mind of the beast" in Rev. 17:13, now I don't know who is totally deceived or merely badly influenced by a horrible church, but sometimes it is very strange when you are a Christian standing alone or with one or two others on a message board for the truth, and you see people even writing the same exact sentences. I've talked about the scripts that are used already. Having several people all write "you have an axe to grind" is a little weird. It really is like talking to the same person over and over.

Going along with the article he states:

"Sadly, in these apostate modern times in which we live, few Christian believers are willing to stand alone for God. If we don't take a stand, who will? If not now, when? If not here, where? If not me, then who? It is each and every INDIVIDUAL Christians duty to live for God, contend for the faith, and stand for righteousness"


I wrote this elsewhere online that goes along the same line:

People today are scared to stand alone for anything anymore. Peer pressure is not a concept that disappears once someone leaves junior or senior high but continues in adulthood. It's like today, the more you are like others, the more you are respected. Uniqueness is no longer celebrated. In fact the more alike you are with everyone else, the more acceptable you become. I often predict innovation even on a secular level will diminish in America, as society pushes the whole "common good", "team player" lines not only in the business world but out to the churches.

The Christian Life is NOT one of popularity. Could You Stand Alone?

And to be honest, for some of us being told YOU WILL BE ALONE, or you are an AWFUL person because you stand alone, those can be messages that slam like rocks against our heads. But let me be frank,

The world really does hate the bible believing and separated Christian. Jesus gave those warnings for a reason. Not every unbeliever will hate you, there will be those out there who are teachable and who are seeking the truth vs. the seared. Some of the worse hate will actually come from so called "Christian circles". Christian message boards in many cases have become cesspools of too many think-alike types, who if you question their favorite teachers, start becoming very upset and who start using the scripts immediately. Many of those type of folks both in the churches and outside of them will tell you that one of your biggest duties is to conform, stop rocking the boat, and "grinding that axe".

Keeping those things in mind, Christians will suffer for standing on the truth, this will mean lost companions, lost friendships, and even lost family members. The gentle approach works with some and the direct with others, that must be discerned with God. However Christians in this this world will have IMMENSE hardship and disappointment. In America we are still relatively free, but even posting the basics about Roman Catholicism or other false religions, in many countries, means prison or worse.

Right now in America, we are blessed, but I have thought of those sitting alone in prison cells worldwide and during the Inquisitions, who very well, could have been totally ON THEIR OWN save for Jesus Christ, with families, friends, and others all rejecting them, telling them they are wrong, and telling them they are "MAD". How many were told as they were getting out the torches and stake, were told give in for the sake of the children? To stop making trouble? To bow before the Catholic Eucharist and go home and stop causing pain and suffering for everyone? [This is how they weeded out the "heretics" you know, those who refused to bow before the bread]

As things get worse and worse, one thing I want to extort Christians here to ask themselves, is...

COULD YOU STAND ALONE? If it was YOU, and NO ONE else SAVE FOR GOD? Even if your whole family told you that you were crazy, or if everyone in the world had turned their back on you? This is a question we should all ask ourselves. There are end time scenarios that are going to happen, such as when they demand you take the mark if the Lord does not tarry this could happen in even some of our lifetimes. Don't wait and ask yourself this when bad things start happening, ask yourself this now. Times in life may come when you have to stand on your principles even at cost, sometimes this may be a smaller matter such as refusing to take part in a community event tied to a false church or the big stuff, which Christians are facing in this world now in foreign countries where to be a Christian in some places means death.

The power to resist evil conformity and compromise will come via the Holy Spirit, and God will meet your needs. I've faced my own temptations where God helped me, facing the facts about Calvary Chapel was not easy, leaving a church never comes without some sacrifice of fellowship. I found out certain things that could not be ignored, and would have been a hypocrite to excuse ecumenism in Calvary Chapel while warning of it elsewhere. Later of course, I found out even more, that told me I never belonged there in the first place.

Many Christians coming out of the churches and standing for the truth, are finding out they are few in number, against the crowd. Some of the conforming types are even mocking them for the fewness of their number, such as in one confessing Christian telling another, "who would want to join you in your church of 3-5 people"? The crowd is praising the false teachers and leading many blind teachers of various kinds into ditches galore. Some Christians are finding themselves in a pretty isolated places standing up for God.

Here one needs that relationship with God, that surpasses all others. Where you pray daily and He comes first in your life. Where you can pray about these matters in an honest way.

I was reading this verse this morning, and thought about how this verse serves as a reminder to us.

Jhn 16:32 Behold, the hour cometh, yea, is now come, that ye shall be scattered, every man to his own, and shall leave me alone: and yet I am not alone, because the Father is with me.

Jhn 16:33 These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.

This of course talks about when Jesus will go to the Cross, but I think it reminds Christians we are never alone either, the Father is always with us, being "scattered" in this world or alone in standing up for God. Hebrews 13: 5-6 tells us God will never leave us alone or forsake us either there. Christians know that peace with God comes first, even if they must make hard stands that are very difficult in this world at times.

Christians need courage, a back bone, and to speak the truth. Love is not denying people the truth but being honest and forthright. We need to be able to make a stand and now what the price is in this world, and pray for those who do the persecuting. Many Christians while we have to face our own sin in front of God, avoiding anger, one feels a sadness for those held under the sway of false teachers. We pray: if only they could "see"! If only they could understand, what we are warning of them of. Romans 12 tells us not to conform to this world.

God wants individuals, He made your personality for a reason, you do not have to be like everyone else to be acceptable. Christians need to conform to God's Will not the world's. God calls people to "let us reason" together in book of Isaiah. The world desires conformity of the worse way, for control and to lead people down the path of perdition. Refuse it. Pray to God for faith, and for your relationship to grow with Him, in having that as a refuge against this world and its endless messages telling you to give in. I wonder at times about those popular preachers, and all the fancy ecumenical statements and organizations they sign on to and support, the peer pressures to join the crowd, has to be immense, but even there, they should have said, "NO!". Where is the strength of any conviction?

So I say Don't Lose Your Individuality too, and add to it, STAND ALONE for GOD!