Friday, November 12, 2010

Why Did a Calvary Chapel Pastor Meet with a Catholic Archbishop?



The video is of the Catholic bishop [Archbishop Sheenhan]who attended this event: Here the description of the video reads: "Archbishop Michael J. Sheehan invites you to attend the 2010 New Mexico Biblical World View Conference on August 25, 2010 at the Albuquerque Convention Center." That is definitely an ironic name.


I'm going to keep this one short. Read one of my latest articles discussing the Manhattan Declaration, Chuck Colson, and how it is being used by Rome to pull evangelicals into the ecumenical movement. This article reveals information I found out doing research for that blog entry.

Many in Calvary Chapel really cannot conceive of the ecumenical going-ons out there, between leaders within their denomination and even within other evangelical groups. As I explained in the Manhattan Declaration blog entry, Chuck Colson is a main figure, that has worked steadily to bring evangelicals into unity with the Catholic church. It's happening in many denominations and as you will see here, Calvary Chapel has not remained immune. Some can say.. "Not Calvary Chapel, they warn about the Catholic church and the Emergents!" [yes they do from time to time in Bible conferences and elsewhere] but what does this really mean if pastors and others are meeting at ecumenical gatherings? Do not let those fool you who admit some errors of Rome, but then join together with it's top leaders. If there are any pastors in Calvary Chapel against this stuff, have they spoken out? I would like to see.

Read for yourself here from Chuck Colson's website:


"As the planning unfolded, Chuck suggested we invite the world. And so we did—that is, our known world here in New Mexico . We called a meeting for the Archbishop to meet with key Evangelical leaders, Dr. Joseph Bunce of the New Mexico Baptist Conference, Dr. Micheal Dickenson of the New Mexico Assemblies of God, Dr. Fred Huff of the Nazarene Churches of New Mexico, Pastor Robert Hall of Calvary Chapel, Pastor Jian Zhu of the Albuquerque Chinese Christian Church (also a Centurion), Pastor Don Kimbro of New Mexico Christian Churches."


I went to go check to see if Robert Hall is a pastor in Calvary Chapel: he is.

This was done under the auspices of it being a Manhattan Declaration meeting as it states previously in that article:

"Archbishop Sheehan and I decided that day to move forward with a conference for 300 to 500 Catholic and Evangelical clergy, the first ever for New Mexico. We selected two Catholic and two Evangelical scholars to be our presenters, Michael Novak and Joseph Bottum, as well as Chuck Colson and Os Guiness. Archbishop Sheehan suggested that the theme of the conference be the Manhattan Declaration since in January he, other New Mexico Catholic bishops and numerous priests and Evangelical pastors had met together on the anniversary of Roe v. Wade anniversary and signed a paper copy of it along with over 500 others."

I found this OTHER article, entitled "Catholics and Evangelicals Unite". This article admits that a Calvary Chapel church with others helped to sponsor this event. [it is the church where Richard Hall is pastor of] The author who was supportive of this Manhattan Declaration meeting writes:

"I was also thankful for all the sponsors: The Archdiocese of Santa Fe, New Mexico Assemblies of God, The Baptist Convention, Calvary Chapel Rio Rancho, the North American Mainline Chinese Mission, New Mexico Christian Churches, the Traditional Values Action Committee, and various other individual churches."



Here the event appears on the roster at that church[within cache of google]

There are some out there, who have been in disbelief about things I've talked about regarding the ecumenical movement and Calvary Chapel. Basically stating in different ways, it's not happening! Hopefully this will help them wake up. This stuff of course is not just moving into Calvary Chapel but all the denominations which are falling away, especially those who are signed up into the world evangelical movement [such as interacting with BGEA]. Many others have been involved as you can see even Assembly of God is mentioned in the above. It sure seems that the counter-reformation has succeeded.

Do not think this the only event or ecumenical agreement that has happened even with Calvary Chapel. Here is another link [related to the Manhattan Declaration] but this group calls itself: "Renewing American Leadership" with a giant Domionist flavor and provides a list of those who have signed on to this event "Pray and Act for Life, Marriage and Religious Freedom"[it is unclear to me whether that is a list for fasting or just in support of this organization] On the list one will see Catholic archbishops/bishops and priests listed, political figures, a vast variety of famous religious figures like Rick Joyner, a variety of organizations, seminary leaders, TBN's most well known, and Calvary Chapel pastors that include Jack Hibbs, and Phillip Goudeaux


What does this mean? We know that biblical separation has been thrown out the window in so many places. Why do these evangelical leaders feel it is OK to join with a church that preaches a false gospel on any issues? Thus my question of the title, Why Did a Calvary Chapel Pastor Meet with a Catholic Archbishop?" Nothing excuses being equally unyoked with a false religion. Doesn't this man have any ex-Catholics who renounced that false gospel within his own church? Anyhow the evangelicals seem to have been almost fully drawn into the harlot. For Christians who understand why and how this is happening biblically, the overwhelming feeling is of sadness for those being so deceived.

11 comments:

Anonymous said...

IT IS INTERESTING TO NOTE THAT CALVARY CHAPEL PASTORS ARE MOVING TOWARDS ROME. NO ONE SEEMS TO CARE.

Bible Believer said...

Nope, no one cares. Well maybe Roger Oakland does since he left. I have participated on many message boards with Calvary Chapel folks, all I got was the usual "scripts" and "how dare yous!". The majority do not want to know. So why they warn about the Emergents at the Bible conferences, they sneak in ecumenical stuff through the back door, see how that works?

Anonymous said...

Isaiah 30:10 (KJV) Which say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets, Prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us smooth things, prophesy deceits:
Isaiah 30:11 (KJV) Get you out of the way, turn aside out of the path, cause the Holy One of Israel to cease from before us.

John Gill commentaery on Romans 3:13
http://www.biblestudytools.com/commentaries/gills-exposition-of-the-bible/romans-3-13.html

John Gill commentary on 2 Timothy 4:3
http://www.biblestudytools.com/commentaries/gills-exposition-of-the-bible/2-timothy-4-3.html

John Gill Commentary on 2 Thessalonians 2:3
http://www.biblestudytools.com/commentaries/gills-exposition-of-the-bible/2-thessalonians-2-3.html

John Gill commentayr on Hebrews 6:4
http://www.biblestudytools.com/commentaries/gills-exposition-of-the-bible/hebrews-6-4.html

Bible Believer said...

Thanks for the links last anon.

Anonymous said...

Many foolish virgins will say: Jeremiah 8:20 The harvest is past the summer has ended, and we are not saved.

Bible Believer said...

Thanks for that verse, it is an interesting one. Notice the change here too of the focus on this world, and it's peace, unity and "problem- solving" instead of holding to the things of God, and the true kingdom of Jesus Christ.

news4themasses said...

CHUCK COLSON is a member of the FAMILY! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Colson

Also you can google Chuck Colson, The Family, and Jeff Starlet and you'll find tons.

I've been warning against Calvary Chapel's union with false doctrine for a while on my blog, you can check it out: news4themasses.wordpress.com

I am working on something as well. Trying to connect the dots from CC to 'C' St. via the Family. I know it's there but need all the help I can get.

God Bless you for sending out the Warning. Be careful out there...whenever you come against them the enemy fights back. I'll be praying for your ministry.

news4themasses said...

By the Way, I do care! I just read your comment. I have videos on Youtube, mijadedios, I have my blog, and I tweet as well. I do what I can but yest you're right for the most part the warnings come with a resounding deafening silence when you warn against CC. They have a lot of power, but, BUT, Our Lord Jesus will not share His glory with another, not even papaSmith. So, keep doing what you have been called to do, James 5:19-20 19 "My brethren, if any among you strays from the truth and one turns him back,let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his way will save his soul from death and will cover a multitude of sins."

Bible Believer said...

News4themasses, I have read your blog, good work! In fact your blog, I helped to WAKE me up about Calvary Chapel. I believe it was your blog entry called "WOE".

http://news4themasses.wordpress.com/2009/08/25/woe/

At the time, I was praying to God, I was starting to be disturbed by the music I was seeing in Calvary Chapel as well as some other things, show me what is going on, and I found your blog entry exposing how Rick Warren was invited on stage with Chuck Smith and Greg Laurie the very next day. I would leave very soon after that. [CC really was a poor second choice for me as I had moved to a community with no good fundamentalist church]

So I wanted to THANK you for that. Thanks for sounding the warning cry. God bless you. By the way, I printed out this article, and gave it to a few families in my old CC. :)

You are right there is a lot of deafening silence out there involving warnings with CC, but we must keep warning people as best we can.

As for the Family, and Chuck Colson, I know about that group and have read Starlet's book, while his book is secular, it definitely helped put some of the puzzle pieces together for me. [also warnings about National Day of Prayer and other Dominionist groups and organizations]

I would like to see your article once you get it done. Will find it very interesting. I will link to it here. Google Chuck Smith and General Boykin if you want to find out some interesting ties.

Have you seen my article regarding the links of CC to Billy Graham? It is one of my earliest ones.

http://galatiansfour.blogspot.com/2010/04/one-shocking-thing-i-found-out-as-i.html


Thanks for your prayers, I will appreciate them. I will pray for you and your ministry as well. God bless.

Anonymous said...

Just by the little I have read, I think I see a lot of this going on:

Titus 3:9-11 (KJV)

9But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain. 10A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject; 11Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself.

I believe Paul was making a point to weed out legalism. Legalism focuses on condemnation rather than on God's power and grace. It takes focus away from the Cross.

Why would you want to spend your energy and any breath God has given you accusing your brothers in Christ? How vain to believe that your investigations and assumptions are anything more than an attempt to point out the "fleck" in your brothers eye!

Revelation 12:10 (KJV)
10And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

Don't let that day come too early for you.

Bible Believer said...

Standing against the false ecumenical movement is not being legalistic. If anything I ask how come more of this man's church members aren't outraged that he is involved in these groups and unified to those who preach a false gospel and head up Mystery Babylon? I am sorry, but if someone does not even via the Holy Spirit recognize who and what Rome is [I allow for innocent ignorance among the more humble among us] and is in a position as a preacher, that is a major major problem. Is someone a brother in Jesus Christ that seeks to unite with the one world religion harlot? I see that as doubtful.