Sunday, November 28, 2010

Ignatius of Loyola and His Vain Imagination

Warning: pray before reading any of the spiritual exercises, this stuff is evil and meant to lead people into vain imaginations, that go against scripture. I have included only a few examples of what I am talking about to show here. They are all from THIS CATHOLIC SOURCE.

Saint Ignatius of Loyola, is the man who founded the Jesuits, known for His SPIRITUAL EXERCISES, which Catholics would consider HOLY but when it gets right down to it are based in vain imaginations, false visions, sorcery and witchcraft.

Rom 1:21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified [him] not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

His "Spiritual Exercises are getting more and more popular in Catholic circles and even apostate Protestant circles. Basically what they entail are exercises of the visual imagination or "contemplations" or what the Bible warns against as VAIN IMAGINATIONS, these of course are mixed in with rites, rituals and Catholic prayers. Think of Catholic mystics in this regard, how they always have visions of "jesus" or what really happened in his life, instead of reading the Bible to learn what really happened, they sit back and "visualize" it.

The visualizations are so evil, I don't want to lead anyone to have to struggle with the things they would do to one's mind. I had to pray even from reading this nonsense. So I will leave the EWTN link with a warning, to be very careful going to even read this stuff and do it with prayer and all carefulness in God. I went through and picked a few examples to explain what this stuff is about.

Let me tell you some of what I read there...

One exercise tells people to "visualize" hell and imagine the cries, suffering and horrors there. Another exercise tells people to visualize themselves standing in chains before God, and to see how God would look at you and judge your spiritual state by that...all made up in the person's mind. {this also preaches against the freedom of Christ in the Bible.} Some weird precepts include shutting all lights, no matter how small out of the room. Here's another one:

Third Way. The third, to chastise the flesh, that is, giving it sensible pain, which is given by wearing haircloth or cords or iron chains next to the flesh, by scourging or wounding oneself, and by other kinds of austerity.

Note. What appears most suitable and most secure with regard to penance is that the pain should be sensible in the flesh and not enter within the bones, so that it give pain and not illness. For this it appears to be more suitable to scourge oneself with thin cords, which give pain exteriorly, rather than in another way which would cause notable illness .

Going further more vain imaginations center on imagining Mary's rooms in Nazareth, and to imagine one's self as "God" looking down upon the earth at all the different human capacities, and then to visualize the Trinity on their thrones looking down on the earth and "imagining" what they would be saying about it all. This includes making up whatever Mary is up to and a few angels. Another visualization is to be there when Jesus is born and try and picture for yourself as a slave serving Mary, Joseph and Jesus as a baby needs as they are in the stable. Another visualization exercise is visualizing Lucifer and Jesus together in Jerusalem. Then there is a longer list of "visualizing" different events in the life of Jesus just like that Nun {Anne Catherine Emmerich}, whose writings inspired Mel Gibson to write the move "The Passion" since he turned to her Medieval era book of "visions".

Remember her, where she wrote a book imagining herself as being THERE, during the life of Jesus as if what she saw was FACT? This is what all this VAIN IMAGINATION, visualization EXERCISES are meant to do, and what ST. Iggy promoted and what the Bible warns against.

Back to Ignatius of Loyola's spiritual exercises, folks believe this about them:

"His Exercises were not a series of pious sermons or edifying notes to be read; they were prescriptions that were meant to put a person in direct communication with God."

2Cr 10:5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ.

Catholic mysticism is not different then the mysticism of other religions [Mystery Babylon overlaps on everything]: more on that later.


Anonymous said...

Here's an eye opener, too. It's long, but well worth the read:

And I put your article on our board, BB.

Bible Believer said...

Thanks for the link anon.

Well don't consider board "mine" :), I am posting there but not ready to get into the message board business again. I may be doing a blog entry soon on Christian message boards.

Thanks for the good discussions.

Anonymous said...

Oh, sorry, BB.

deckard said...

Ignatius Loyola himself was a crypto-Jew of the Occult Cabala. A crypto-Jew is a Jew who converts to another religion and outwardly embraces the new religion, while secretly maintaining Jewish practices. As John Torell explains: "In 1491 San Ignacio de Loyola was born in the Basque province of Guipuzcoa, Spain. His parents were Marranos and at the time of his birth the family was very wealthy. As a young man he became a member of the Jewish Illuminati order in Spain. As a cover for his crypto Jewish activities, he became very active as a Roman Catholic. On May 20, 1521 Ignatius (as he was now called) was wounded in a battle, and became a semi-cripple. Unable to succeed in the military and political arena, he started a quest for holiness and eventually ended up in Paris where he studied for the priesthood. In 1539 he had moved to Rome where he founded the "JESUIT ORDER," which was to become the most vile, bloody and persecuting order in the Roman Catholic Church. In 1540, the current Pope Paul III approved the order. At Loyola's death in 1556 there were more than 1000 members in the Jesuit order, located in a number of nations."

Ignatius of Loyola's secretary, Polanco, was of Jewish descent and was the only person present at Loyola's deathbed. James Lainez, who succeeded Loyola as the second Jesuit General, was also of Jewish descent. Jews were attracted to the Jesuit order and joined in large numbers. Lacunza was no exception. He was a Jew, which explains why he introduced the eschatological teaching of a return to the Jewish animal sacrifices during the Millennium. (In a book titled The Coming of the Messiah in Glory and Majesty published in 1812, 11 years after the death of its author, Jesuit Emanuel de Lacunza who, wrote under the fictitious pen name of a purportedly converted Jew, Rabbi Juan Josaphat Ben Ezra, in order to conceal his identity and to make his writings more palatable to the Protestant readers. He promoted the writings of sixteenth century Jesuit priest Francisco Ribera, developing a futuristic perspective which restricted the prophetic fulfillments in the book of Revelation to the end of the world). Lacunza also wrote that during a millennium after the tribulation the Jewish animal sacrifices would be reinstated along with the Eucharist (the mass) of the Catholic Church. Lacunza has followed after Jewish fables and replaced the commandments of God with the commandments of men. That doctrine gives the Jews primacy in God's plan and relegates Christians to a prophetic parenthetical to be supplanted by the Jews during the thousand year earthly reign of Christ. Full story:

Anonymous said...

Yes, I've read about all that. It is very interesting. I know that the futurist version invented by the Jesuits is Satanic and was for the purpose of both denying Scripture and throwing confusion against the Reformers in order to stop the flow away from Rome. Thanks for that, Anon. #1

Anonymous said...

Sorry, I meant that last post was from me: Anon. #1

Anonymous said...

The "crypto Jew" nonsense is satanic garbage, anyone that believes a word that deckard wrote, is deceived to the max.

Ignatius of Loyola was a Gentile, not Jewish.

Bible Believer said...

Yes there were the "morranos", but most were trying to escape death via the Inquisitions and Rome's auto de fes.

There are sabbateans/Frankists out there who say they are Jews and are NOT. [Rev 3:9] The luciferians know wearing the masks of other religions--it isn't just the Jewish one, works.

I think they have been made use of by Rome, to point the finger at the Jews and away from a certain other church, that is the focus of this article.

In fact most of these folks doing evil deeds worldwide, hate the Jewish people, and one can see how they are being set up for betrayal NOW.
I follow scripture regarding the Jews: my articles here, these will explain more:

As for Ignatius being a closet Jew "Moranno" etc, I don't agree, all the biographies online, speak of a noble Basque family, early priesthood--which back in those times could be age 13 even. Anyhow whatever Loyola was, he was satanically involved:

"Ignatius of Loyola (born in 1491 at the castle of Loyola above Azpeitia in Guipuscoa, Spain; died at Rome, 31 July 1556) is said to have not only risen several feet but become luminous in the process."

If we are going to look at the occult kabbalah, its nothing but babylonianism with a jewish flavor....[meant to deceive]. Just another branch of Mystery Babylon, which Talmudic Judaism also is of. If you have read my other blog entries, Mystery Babylon always overlaps [sun worship, occult, etc, Satan has the same lies everywhere]

Acouple months ago, I encountered acouple kabbalists online, and one showed me his favorite website, all the rituals, and more could have been taken off any other occult and new age website, that includes EVERYTHING in Catholic mysticism. It all has the same Babylonian roots.

Just so you know this is NOT an anti-semitic website. I have written against Zionism [in defense of the Jews and Christians I believe Zionism has been set up to betray], and Jewish fables [things that come from the Talmud not the Torah], elsewhere, which may help you explain my position. [the links above] Just like the left and right are both lies in America, so is the Jewish vs. Islam paradigms that the Vatican plays like a fiddle.

There are many out there who want to tell people "blame the Jews", when the real culprit has more smokescreens thrown up in it's behalf. I always have wondered why someone like Texe Marrs, focuses so heavily on the "Jews", while commenting far far less on the Vatican. Wouldn't saying well Ignatius was a Jew, be a way to point to him as only a mere "corrupter" of Rome when Roman Catholicism itself is the source of the wickedness and babylonianism?

Thanks for the information about Lacunza, I wondered where that "new animal sacrifice" stuff came about from. May study that. I had acouple evangelicals telling me they believed that there would be new ones in the millennium kingdom. I had wondered if there was Jesuit influence there. When I heard about that one, my jaw dropped: that denies the sufficiency of Jesus Christ's sacrifiec.

Anonymous said...

Well, no matter who he was--a Gentile, a real Jew, a fake Jew of the Samaritan variety--it doesn't matter. He was certainly of SATAN, a demonically controlled vessel, in the Dragon's war against the saints. :) Anon. #1

Bible Believer said...

I agree Anon.

It really doesn't matter, Ignatius was of Satan in every way.

deckard said...

Adam Weishaupt (Spartakus) the founder of the illuminati order/freemasons another Jesuit professor of Ingolstadt was a crypto-Jew too. The illuminati is to be based upon the teachings of the babylonian talmud which is in turn, the teachings of rabbinical Jews. The teachings of the talmud is to destroy the Christians faith. The talmud is genocidal racism which is based on the zohar and the kabbalah. Who fundet the russian revolution and the 2 world wars? Warburg,Schiff,Baruck,etc. all agents of the rothschilds and are zionist jews.Lenin,trotzky and almost all of the marxist communist Nkpd party leaders were jews. Under stalin they were responsible for murder of about 66 millions of mostly christians people in the gulags. Question who is the synagogue of satan? Read Andrew Carrington Hitchcock. The coming antichrist will be a jewish messiah.
Sources: The Plot Against Christianity by Elizabeth Dilling,

The Messianic Idea in Judaism by Professor Gershom Scholem,
The Invention of the Jewish People by Shlomo Sand,
Under the Sign of the Scorpion by Juri Lina,
The Beasts of the Apocalypse by Marie Olivia O'Grady,
Texe Marrs,

Anonymous said...

Sad to see the haters of the Jewish people. They apparently haven't read Romans chapter 11. I hope Satan's spell over them is broken.

Bible Believer said...


The Vatican is playing a good game deflecting from themselves as the "mother of all abominations" [and Mystery Babylon] playing the game of "blame the jews". The stuff in the kabbalah is no different from the satanism implicit in the New Age movement, Catholic mysticism, Hinduism, etc...

In fact there is a reason so much "alternative" media and what I believe are some disinformationists do everything to protect the Vatican and Jesuits, and focus on the Jews. Its interesting some of these folks, get callers and folks who email them and ask about those discrepancies, of why they play cover for Rome, and usually do not get an answer or brushed off.
Every group has it's new world order workers, the Catholic people themselves are deceived by false teachers [I used to be one of them] so to play this game that Jews are behind it all, ignores the reality of what BABYLON really is in the Bible. Is the Talmud Babylonian, yes, but so in essense is the Koran, the Bhagavad Gita, name other false religion book here. Mystery Babylon is essentially the same religion being played out under different guises and "flavors". To focus on the [Talmudic] Jews here obliterates that reality.

You mention racism in the Zohar, and I'm not saying it's not there, but the propensity here to focus on the Jews [an ethnic group] as the cause of all problems in the world is racist in itself.

The Holocaust was an updated auto de fe and Inquisition. I once saw a racist Barnes Review [not saying you hold their views] magazine which held 'the Jews are responsible for all the evils in the world" message: this magazine horrified me, as it praised Hitler, praised the Popes! denied the Holocaust and then discounted the Bible, calling the OT The Torah...[to their mostly confessing Christian audience] to be mostly myth. With the Rothschilds, many expose them as not being Jews, merely pretending to be...while being luciferians. By the way Rome runs the Illuminati and Masons too, it took me awhile to be shown that. Rome is gathering all fellow members of Mystery Babylon under its umbrella in the one world religion.

I agree with the last anon regarding Romans 11. Satan hates the Jewish people as well as Christians. All we have to do is look at world history to see so many of the wicked oppress and persecute them.

deckard said...

Did i say all jews? No! There is no collective guilt or punishment or anti-semitism as some alleged when it comes to blame the evil doings of the leadership of the jews.In fact those evil people who are sure in bed with the vatican the black pope are the forces in satanic high places who make war against Christianity and the whole world and of cause against the jews too!They use parts of the old testament as in hesekiel for instance as a blueprint to fullfill their goals and proclaiming it at bible prophecy what is a heresy.So there is of cause not only one who is to blame, sure not.But who infiltrated Christianity through the teachings of the talmud,zohar and kabbalah.Its the jewish leadership the synagogue of satan.Who is a racist by definition of the talmud.The jews who say they are jews and are not.Who hates Jesus by definition of the traditions of the elders and blaming the New Testament as anti-semitism ? The sanhedrin and their many half-goddesses the rabbis.They see himself as their own messiah and are in fact not biblical at all.Its a hoax as the whole anti-semitism blaming which is just a political correctness force to put people in a mental prism.By proclaiming and blaming people as anti-semits they want to put the eyes away of the wonderful and loving deeds of our lord Jesus Christ and want to make forget the genocide on so many Christians in the past.The real Israel are the people who follow Christ and believe in his salvation alone.Jesus love all mankind and the chosen ones are those who loves him.Just watch the powers behind the last 2 presidents.Who are those people?Who are the leaders of the council of foreign relations?Who pushes pornographic stuff and abortion on a great scale.Who support the radical gay agendas and who are the owner of the publishing houses and by the way the licence owner of the corrupted niv bible? Who is really behind the military-industrial complex and their warmongering ? Their goal is and has always been war now to bring up their nwo utopia. Modern Israel is like the nazis in the third reich. You make an enemy out of me cause I am telling you the truth? Ok go on blame me.But I have one question before you outrage? Why do you have no compassion to the slaughtering of the palestinians, the killing of the 1.2 million civilians in the irak war, or the lebanon wars in 2006 or all the people who died in the world wars . You say we only have to dignify the holocaust? Just think about it.I am saying this with a sorrowfully heart what is supposed to happen in the new future if they again play the marxist communism card as they did in the past.God bless you all.

Bible Believer said...

I am glad you are not pointing to "all" Jews. You did read where I mention the existence of the Frankists and Sabbateans didnt you? Those who say they are Jews and are not, are the luciferians in bed with the Vatican.

You see the Talmud, Zohar as coming first and directing the Babylonianism of the rest, I see all of it as coming from the same source and the RCC running the show, smaller distinctions of course but maybe where we are talking past each other. You can't pin it all on Talmudic Judaism when it is merely one branch of the Mystery Babylon tree.

To understand where I am coming from please read my other essays where I speak about the errors of Christian Zionists and the Jewish fables [Talmudic Judaism] infiltrating Christianity.

There are some who do abuse the word anti-semite. I have been called one for coming against the errors of Christian Zionism but I am not. I go along with Genesis 12:3. It can be an abused word to silence discourse.

If you read my essays you will see I do not see the secular state of Israel, which has just as many politicians betraying it, as America has betraying it as being the Israel spoken of in the Bible. There is a difference between spiritual Israel and the secular state of Israel.

Please read this blog entry and you will understand...

There are many who ignore Jesus's edict that his kingdom is not of this world, and who have elevated a modern nation state, [which like others does have the right to defend themselves] to a state of "holiness" it does not hold.

That said, why would I jump to the other side of the Judeo vs. Islamic paradigms that the new world order is using to deceive, and claim its all that "one sides fault", and like a liberal ignore all the crimes that have occurred on the other side.

If you read enough of my blog, you will see that I do not support the NWO's wars in the Middle East! and speak out against it constantly, [that includes your mentioning of the Iraq war] which I consider the pope's modern crusades. There is death and destruction and sin ON ALL SIDES.

From the link above, I wrote:
"These are now being enacted in modern form. Think about it. why has America been called into endless Middle Eastern wars, that have helped to bankrupt this nation, and who have they really served? The NWO has always desired chaos, death and destruction in the world. There is a reason many referred to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan as “modern crusades”.

I would like you to think about who is truly the "mother of all abominations" and to realize the problem is not Jewish people [sin exsists among all groups] and to realize this planet has luciferians [who have no problem pretending to be different religions] running the show, and much of it is directed via the Vatican.

There are and were other genocides worldwide too besides the Holocaust, the one in Croatia via the Vatican in the 1940s was horrific too. That was an updated Inquisition too.

Right now in this country Rome is playing the Communism vs. Fascism card. What side do you think Obama represents and what side the right wing so called Christian Right?

Bible Believer said...

1Cr 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether [we be] Jews or Gentiles, whether [we be] bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

Anonymous said...

It is Rome doing it, and it is not any Jews. They are pawns in this "game" as are Gentiles. Stop with the anti-semitism, the Lord Jesus hates it.

deckard said...

Not any jews? Are you kidding me?No anon you are wrong, its not ant-semitism its anti-christianity whats all about!You say its the vatican who is on top? Never and i tell you why.First who was john paul II?He was jewish.Why do you think could they blame all the pedos in the rcc without punishment?What would happen if you point to the jews cause their most holy book is the talmud and its full of hatred an racism and abomination against Christ.You are a bad bad person and an anti-semit and you are cursed by god. But wait who rebuked the leadership of the jews cause they are already made a fortune in rom and abandon the torah and gods law and made their own? It was Jesus himself who called them vipers and of the synagogue of satan.Those who killed the prophets and worshiped baal and moloch.Listen the chief rabbis and the sanhedrin says the pope what to do not the other way around and their are the main enemy to Christianity.They are in no way our elder brothers.Again not all jews are involved many just don't know there is a talmud.But the sanhedrin,chabad lubavitch, the neocons which are mostly jewish and those who wait for their messiah who is a political figure and not a spiritual entity. Watch the noahide laws they are coming against you..

Bible Believer said...

Deckard, one thing, anti-semitism isn't going to go down here. There are the wicked in ALL groups choosing to follow Baal, but how do you stand by those teachings when Jesus Himself and many of the apostles were themselves Jews? They have managed to fool many playing the game of blaming the Jews, it serves as a great deflection for who is heading up Mystery Babylon. What I find so odd, is I admitted to those who call themselves Jews and are not [actually luciferians] who are directing the wicked things happening in this world. Why is it so imperative, that you see them as all Jewish? Why can't you see that Talmudic Judaism is just another branch of Mystery Babylon? I know about the Noahide laws too, but then all Babylonian systems have false laws, such as canon law in the Catholic system.

You are right about the Talmud, it is antichrist, denies Jesus Christ and contains blasphemy against Him. But then it is just ONE among many antichrist books, the Koran also denies Jesus Christ directly [Surah 4 ]But why are you so overly focused on the Jews? There are many out there are focusing on the Jews with laser vision, as I have repeated here, to hide the antics of the Vatican.

Why do you think it is impossible that the Vatican is higher up the echelons? Even on the Almanache De Gotha website, which contains the lineages of all the royal houses, I remember a title for the Pope they had on there...naming him still as the Holy Roman Emperor, [presumbly above them] think about that one. [this was up in 2008 and may have been taken down]

You believe the Sandhedrin and rabbis command the Pope now? How does that add up when the state of Israel has brokered deals for the Vatican to hold religious properties and more?
Or when the Pope and United Nations work hand in hand with other politicos for the two-state solution?

Question for you...Do you consider the Roman Catholic church to be Christian? Why do you see it as almost "harmless" compared to the Jews you point to? Have you researched the Vatican connections in the world banking system?

Satan wants various groups hated, and wants human kind to literal be in one giant hateful brawl. Two sides fight and the Vatican and wicked powers and principalties in this world play them like a fiddle. The Vatican is even betraying Catholics in this country, who do not realize the middle class and economy is being done away with in America by PLAN, and that includes THEM.

Here we got one side saying BLAME THE JEWS, and the OTHER BLAME THE MUSLIMS [and yes while there is wickedness out there--the BIble warns of those who will forsake God and those who choose Baal instead of God], see how this all works together for those in power?

There are those who have infiltrated even "alternative media" and organizations who warn about the new world order...[the website with the black background that has endless warnings with many truths, and the guy who speaks loudly and boldly and makes movies about the police state who oddly never warn about the role the Vatican is playing in political intrigue if they are ever mentioned at all].

Blaming the Jews is just a smokescreen. You know what is sad, they had Europe blaming "the Jews" too before WWII, as the cause of all the world's problems while the churches bowed before mammon and Rome, How history repeats itself.

Bible Believer said...

Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high [places].

Anonymous said...


The vatican is on top. In 1993, Shimon Peres, the vatican agent, gave the temple mount to the vatican.

Now if the Jews were above the vatican, why would they do that? They wouldn't. They'd, instead, take the vatican for Israel.

You're so backwards, it's pointless. I'm done with your satanism and hatred of Jewish people.

deckard said...

In respect to mr. roy tov a jew.
All honor an worship to our precious
lord and god Jesus Christ.

Anonymous said...


Just got this bit of info from a online Radio Show I listen to. The jesuits are all things to all men.

They're promoting lgbt....

Stephen said...

1 Corinthians 2:10 but God has revealed it to us by his Spirit. The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God.
1 John 2:20 But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and all of you know the truth.
1 John 2:27 As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit--just as it has taught you, remain in him

Anonymous said...

Deckard is a satanist who hates Jewish people like satan his master.

Anonymous said...

I encourage you to seek out information about what the Catholic Church teaches within the Catechism of the Catholic Church.
Thank you.

phil said...

Go into all the world and preach the gospel, baptizing them in the Name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit. Sounds like Jesus had in mind a world religion…maybe Jesus is the anti-Christ!

Bible Believer said...

The Catholic church doesn't preach the gospel, that's why your Popes have no problem with joining with false religions. Funny you felt no hesitation in blasphemizing Jesus to "make a point".