Thursday, November 4, 2010

Constance Cumbey and the Catholic Church: Exposing the New Age and Defending Rome?

Constance Cumbey wrote a good book warning of the New Age; The Hidden Dangers of the Rainbow.

In this book she exposes, the New Age movement and many of its associated groups, it is very popular in evangelical circles. She has written other books such as the Planned Deception, focusing on the antichrist as a world leader and discussions about Maitreya within it. Her research regarding the New Age, has been lauded since the 80s, I respected her research in this area, reading it as a relatively new Christian. Even some of her old newsletters, one exposed Pat Robertson back then and even I thought "what a good researcher!", so this made what I found out later even more shocking.

Constance Cumbey is a lawyer and known for doing speeches warning about the New Age that hold a lot of truth, so I was shocked when I realized Constance Cumbey's stance towards the Catholic church. This happened when I found her blog some years ago and noticed that she was praising the Pope and defending many of the Vatican's agendas. Many evangelicals do not realize this person who exposes the New Age, has made appearances on the Catholic network EWTN.

"Some months ago I was able to watch a program by Mother Angelica. The guest speaker was Constance Cumbey, a practising American lawyer. The topic discussed was the New Age movement. I was surprised by what Ms. Cumbey related because I didn't realize that the New Age movement involved transcendental meditation, reincarnation, the use of crystals, and other strange and occult ventures.Constance Cumbey has written a book entitled , published in 1983, which covers at length the New Age Movement, a movement which
is rapidly spreading.

Of course it is good for folks to be warned about the New Age, no matter who they are, but then there is no good done for those trapped in another false religion such as Catholicism learning about the worse aspects of the New Age which are seriously replicated in Catholic mysticism and even within many of the Pope's teachings themselves. [see the essay on this blog exposing the Theosophy of the Popes]

Constance Cumbey knows about Lucis Trust, and even points to deceivers like Matthew Fox who are more blatant in their New Age leanings, but why this blind spot towards the Catholic church as a whole, or its involvement with groups like the Temple for Understanding or the URI, as I have exposed on this blog?

Her praising of the Pope shocked me and was very disappointing. This told me the discernment was not truly there. One thing about the Roman Catholic church is it has many people out there who point to the Masons [even though they control them], the Jews, the Illuminati, as the "mother of all abominations" instead of themselves. In other words, I believe they succeed in deflecting the blame. There is evil and new world order ties in all groups, but the Vatican, does manage to play cover-up for many of it's wicked deeds and it's role as head of the harlot. I found myself thinking, if you know the New Age is wrong, why haven't you figured out the Pope yet?

Read for yourself:

Cardinal Ratzinger is Pope Benedict XVI -- and, personally, I couldn't be happier!

The announcement has just been made. Cardinal Ratzinger is the successor to Pope John Paul II. Personally, I could not be happier about it.


She goes on further to praise Pope Benedict and calling out against the New Age movement in the Catholic church, oddly telling us Benedict has warned about Alice Bailey, so what if he has? since the RCC is pushing the one world religion? She continues the warning about the obvious culprits like Matthew Fox, who actually became Anglican as far as I know some years ago.To be frank to see such spiritual ignorance from such a smart woman, alarmed me greatly.

She sums the article up:

For those and many more reasons, I am happy that he, Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger is the new Pope Benedict XVI. My prayers are with him and the church he will now be heading in what increasingly appears more and more to be apocalyptic times.

The comment section from the same link continue to be even more alarming as she states:

My personal experience and research has so far shown me that Cardinal Ratzinger is a dedicated opponent of the New Age threats to Christianity.

First of all Cardinal Ratzinger/Pope Benedict, teaches a false gospel and Catholicism which is full of mystery Babylon [ie New Age] mysticism. Here one wonders why hasn't Cumbey discovered the Hindu worshipping Cardinals and total full blown New Age teachings even of Pope Benedict himself, while this was 2005, I haven't seen any evidence that the Pope's call for world government since then has changed Cumbey's mind about the Catholic church or woken her up about the role it is serving in Bible Prophecy.

She ignores the Mary worship, the false sacraments, the one world religion interfaithism spewing from the Vatican and worse. One can even read on her blog, Christians who come on to warn her about the harlot of Roman Catholicism and how she and her followers brush them off. Like others who praise the harlot, they make false claims of Christians seeking to do violence and complain about "Catholic bashing". Here is one Christian speaking out against the deceptions on her website as an example:

For anyone here to claim to be a watchman and yet defend this garbage demonstrates just who really is the wolf among the sheep. Cumbey can call this "Catholic bashing" all she wants, but to speak the truth about the false teachings of Rome is not bashing, any more than exposing the New Age is bashing. If the self proclaimed watchman really cared, the watchman would warn them to come out of Rome.

Her response here is scary:

To JOHN CLINGFORD and everybody else:

I believe there are two very false gospels circulating out there and I will no doubt offend everybody by this, but here goes again




Besides that, I am well aware of the New Age game plan strategy which is to pit the target groups against each other. It worked in Mexico from 1926 to 1935; it worked in Europe in the 1930s and 1940s, and they hope to work it now in a worldwide campaign against "fundamentalism."

Also, I am well aware of the agenda of some prominent Catholic bashers (Dave Hunt) to steer people back to a most subtle form of New Age occultism packaged as William Law. William Law was the translator of Jacob Boehme's books into English. Jacob Boehme was Madame Blavatsky's inspiration for THEOSOPHY.

As John Wesley wrote to William Law, " you call it THEOSOPHY, I call it DEMONOSOPHY."

The test of antichrist was a denial that Jesus was the Christ and that Jesus Christ had come in the flesh. Some Catholics unfortunately meet that test, some Catholics do not. Catholic creeds as I understand them, AFFIRM that Jesus is the Christ and that he came in the flesh. New Age Catholics such as Matthew Fox (now excommunicated), Basil Pennington, Thomas Keating, Thomas Berry (recently dead) steer the Catholics away from those basics.

Some Protestants affirm those fundamentals. Some, unfortunately, do not.

In God we trust. All others pay cash.


She misses the point all together, the Catholic church points to a false "jesus' in it's Eucharist. The RCC does not teach a true gospel whatsoever. While it is true that no church determines salvation, one's relationship with Jesus Christ does, believing upon a false "jesus" such as the Catholic Eucharist, is not going to get you to heaven. Here too oddly while she warns about the false 'christ" within New Age circles, she is unable to apply this and test the so called Christian churches with it. Those who are truly saved in the Catholic church [or fallen away Protestant ones] "come out of her" as directed by God and LEAVE.

Many games are played by some of the posters and Cumbey often times backs this up, with one of the predominant messages being that Protestantism is infiltrated by the New Age movement too, which is true but this does not excuse the defense of the false gospel of Rome.

Here on this commentary, Cumbey continues with her odd defense of the Catholic church:

Yes, the New Age Movement has infiltrated just about EVERYTHING. The Catholics have on the whole offered more honest resistance to the New Age Movement than many other elements. It was Cardinal Ratzinger who was credited with leading the charge against New Age infiltration of the Catholic Church in the 1980s and 1990s.


So the Vatican issues a few formal statements against the New Age movement, and a very late in coming Reiki statement [I personally witnessed myself a Catholic church where women practiced Reiki and Taize meditation] and we are to believe Rome stands against New Age mysticism? What planet does she live on? For those who don't know about the base foundation of New Age Mysticism in Roman Catholicism, read this article. Cumbey is wholly confused. How can she just whitewash the mysticism among Catholic saints which I posted on this week, bilocation, stigmata and all, the strong influence of those like Thomas Merton, Henri Nouwen, Bede Griffith ,Ignatius Loyola, who taught out and out New Age visualization in his "spiritual exercises"? Why is she blind to the New Age undergirdings to the one world religion organizations of Rome, like WCRP? The URI?, The Pope supported Monastic Interreligious Dialogue group, that promotes East-West interfaith activities worldwide? The mind reels at the giant glaring blind spots.

I can keep listing names and groups, they are endless. How come she can't see through the New Age aspects of things like Lectio Divina, sacraments, and labyrinths? Or how essentially the New Age movement is just another daughter of Mystery Babylon with Rome at the helm?

This week she is having Lee Penn, appear on her show, on the Microeffect radio website. Lee Penn who I have discussed on this blog before, is an interesting guy, who knows a lot about the interfaith movement and stands against the worse aspects of the URI, in his book New Dawn, but in that book, he presents the Vatican as being against the URI, which I found to be a wholly false premise, perhaps his mind has changed since then, but Lee Penn sadly still remains in the Catholic church [an eastern branch] as far as I know. There again too, if you are warning about the one world religion but under the Pope's authority, what good will it do you?

But overall Constance Cumbey's stance towards the Catholic church is distressing. Why hasn't she seen through the New Age aspects of the Roman Catholic church and the Vatican after this many years of research? Is this a matter of blinding hideous spiritual ignorance via no warnings via the Holy Spirit or knowing wilful deception? There are some on the Internet who claim Cumbey is what they call a "Jesuit co-adjutor". Such a thing, is beyond being able to prove, and one would hope she is merely deceived able to repent, be born again and then listen to the leading of the Holy Spirit, but her words alone speak for themselves, and she is blatantly wrong about the Catholic church. One thing I have realized is there are many out there, and while I may not know the exact state of each person, or their inner motivations, there are many who seem to get one area "right" while bringing in other deceptions or with huge glaring beyond explanation blind spots.

All of us being human will make mistakes but Cumbey's defense of Rome, and brushing away Christians who seek to warn her is very concerning. I pray one day she can see the truth. I hope Christians concerned about the New Age, who seek out her website, and books are not deceived by the pro-Catholic lowest common denominator false gospel and ecumenical leanings.


Anonymous said...

I didn't even know who she was, until you pointed her out, but she sounds like just another person that misses the point entirely.

Since Paul warned us not only about a false "jesus" that isn't the true Jesus, but also a false "gospel" that isn't the true Gospel. This is discussed in 2 Corinthians 11:4.

Even if she were right that catholicism has the right Jesus, yet catholicism does not have the right Gospel, so that disqualifies it as being Christian.

She quotes 1 John 4:2 as a defense for catholicism, but mormonism also believes that Jesus as "come in the flesh". Jehovah's witness believes that as well. So obviously it is wrong to take one verse and rubber stamp groups based on that one verse. What about Galatians 1:6-9? What about Romans 4:5?

Catholicism creates agents for "greater Christendom" to follow in all areas of "Christendom", whether it be Bible teachers, apologetics teachers, and so on. And what these agents all have in common, is that they can say some right things to draw unsuspecting people in, and then when the catholic issue comes up, they come to full defense of catholicism every time. Because, they are agents.

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Bible Believer said...

Hi, Yes I know not everyone knows who she is, she was more known years ago in evangelical circles but yes she is another one who misses the point entirely.

Many evangelicals are fooled not realizing or 'caring?' that there are many false christs, out there, and we were warned in the Bible. The Catholic Eucharist makes the mark. The watered down types who teach the lowest common denominator gospel, and the ecumenists who teach them 'the body of christ is everywhere and the liberal mantra "do not judge" over and over, cannot conceive that there are those who mention "christ" in so called "Christian" circles who are not truly Christians at all.

You are right the Mormons and JWS believe Jesus came in the flesh as well. This is where verse plucking will get you instead of taking the whole council of God. The people that really floor me too are the ones who say anyone who says they believe Jesus Christ came in the flesh is a Christian, get it wrong, spirits are to be tested by that, but human beings can LIE

You are right about the agents. They defintely are out there. We can't prove the specifics of each case in knowing the exact motivations for every individual, but as we have talked about on other threads, the RCC has sent out its agents and knowing deceivers as warned of by Alberto Rivera. Later I am going to do a blog entry on this, but recently I saw this favorite books list of Calvary Chapel pastors, and one of the top favorite authors? John Stott, mover and shaker with Lausanne, and someone that openly preached for unity with the Catholic church.

These jesuit infiltrators or knowing deceivers know how to present themselves as Christian, and to drum on about "culture wars" or warn of the "New Age, or the secular humanists or athiests" and speak some truths, while influencing people closer closer to Rome. You definitely have that part right. Of course there can be some who are duped by the culture wars, etc, who are sincere even if wrong in this crowd as well.

I also have met the types who warn about the Catholic church while having a huge blind spot when it comes to Calvary Chapel and the fallen evangelical world as a hole.

There are many layers to the deception.

Bible Believer said...

LOL I meant fallen evangelical world as a "whole" but it is a "hole" like a pit.

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leedurhamstone said...

One type of looniness is the incessant, rather maniacal, and spirit-dulling search for the anti-christ in others--targeting one then another. Look within, you and Constance, an anti-christic spirit just might appear beneath the surface.

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Bible Believer said...

The Catholic church is antichrist, so it is wise to warn people about those who advance it as a Christian and one that holds truth when it really is Satan's greatest deception.

I am quite familiar with those who want people to stay with blinders on, who do not want anything evil spoken of. Ephesians 5 says different.

Lori Baldwin said...

Thank you for this article! I've both read "The Hidden Dangers of the Rainbow" and listened to Mrs. Cumbey's talk presented at a Radio Liberty conference. Her research and warnings about the New Age are excellent. However, I too have been extremely concerned and alarmed by her defense of the Roman Catholic Church and don't know what to make of it. Did she have a dearly loved one who died Catholic and can't bear to think of that person as lost (pure speculation!)? Her blindness is so blatant and persistent, it seems incomprehensible. She clearly has the intelligence, knowledge and perception to see that the RCC is apostate. And why is she attacking Dave Hunt?! He is a heroic and tireless champion of the gospel and defender of the church against heresy. This is a big red flag to me. I appreciate this post very much - very insightful and well done.

Anonymous said...

Dont look now, but she also says Allah is God and that shamans will be saved without Jesus.

Bible Believer said...

Well she got that from the Pope didn't she? Also the shaman [anonymous Christian thing]

When I was banned off there, I remember there was one time, when she was claiming all three monotheistic religions should come together.

I'll look into this more, thanks for sharing.

Anonymous said...

No prob. Of course she has her usual gaggle of fans who make excuses for her weird New Age teachings disguised as Christianity. You should see the latest over there. Some poor guy is trying to stand up for the fundamentals of the faith and getting called names for it. And C.C. seems to accuse everyone who calls her out on anything "hateful", "stalker", or a covert New Age provocateur.

Look toward the end of this thread. Its crazy.

Bible Believer said...

She has a whole coalition of "helpers" over there. Is Dorothy still there? But that wasn't the only one. She really does a piece of work on people doing the whole "I am against the New Age stuff" while being for Catholicism and the religions uniting in the same Theosophical agenda of the Popes [New Age at its core] Hey I got told the same things over there. I believe she is controlled opposition and definitely in with the Jesuits and in their service. Ah I see at the link you gave me, its the typical scripts, it happened to me there and elsewhere. They are even doing the same lies about "grace" and rest I've seen where they want to advance their universalism.

What is scary to me is it would be different if C.C was just this person who ran a small website, but her writings are all over the place. She even writes for newswithviews, bringing more utter confusion to the table.

Bible Believer said...

I'll show you some of my old comments...

She ended up banning me at the time. Couldn't answer the questions I was asking.

LOL I got called "Lucis Trust Operative"

By the way with Lee Penn, I told him about the Vatican involvement with the URI, didn't get much of an answer. I really tried with him, witnessed to him behind the scenes and elsewhere for a while, but he writes for Tal Brook's magazine, SCP, so will let you ponder that..
I know its confusing with so many anonymous people but you can see some of the themes I have repeated on this blog, though since then I've studied far more especially regarding the evangelical church...

Bible Believer said...

I wrote this....[this was more for benefit of readers there]

"Also Constance...

just because Rome censors the one or two extreme New Agers or dissidents [often times the thing they hold in common is they make the mistake of questioning the Vatican's authority] like Hans Kung...

Doesn't mean they don't hold hands with New Agers all over the planet. Even Carrie herself exposed the Dalai Lama New Age seminar held at the Papal Palace recently.

I don't think you want me to write how New Ager Teilhard de Chardin's writings formed a lot of the basis of Vatican II.

Honestly WHY DO YOU GIVE THESE WOLVES IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING SO MUCH BENEFIT of the DOUBT? Look at their ACTIONS not just the platitudes meant to fool you. If you are worried about offending Catholic friends, don't be, because they need to know the truth as well. Love is wanting people to know the truth.

You think that Benedict is unaware of what is going on in LA with its Buddhist-Christian prayer servies at Taj Mahoney, or what happened in Fatima with the Hindu priests?

Both JPII and Benedict have referred to Mary as Co-Redemptrix, and there too you should realize the goal of their deceptive language where the excuse is..."CO" means WITH in Latin they'll say,---it is yet another elevation of the queen of heaven of Jerimiah 44, not the true Mary of the BIble.

This verse in the Bible, proves that Rome's teaching of co-Redeemers is wholly false and the use of that title for Mary is an affront to God.

No man can by any means redeem his brother,Or give to God a ransom for him--
For the redemption of his soul is costly,
And he should cease trying forever- - Psalm 49:7-8

Constance, please please read the book...


He compares directly the teachings of Rome with scripture.

I think this is something that would really enhance your studies.

I am glad too that Lee Penn is here to join our discussion"

wrote this too...

"********I trust you know about the Catholic teaching on New Age--"Jesus Christ the Bearer of the Water of Life"?

I think this teaching is a sound condemnation of New Age.******

I discovered something about that document that is VERY TELLING.

The Title alone contains error.

IS Jesus Christ ever referred to in scripture as BEARING water?

Jhn 7:38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.

I dont think God is just a water BEARER...

Jer 17:13 O LORD, the hope of Israel, all that forsake thee shall be ashamed, [and] they that depart from me shall be written in the earth, because they have forsaken the LORD, the fountain of living waters.

Rev 22:1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.

Who is the WATER-BEARER...

Aquarius the WATER BEARER...

Dont just accept their words at face value...

I noticed this the first time I saw the document.

Carrie, you have excellent research skills but realize God's Word is what leads to most truth and discernment."

Yeah in that one Rome basically with sleigh of hand equated Jesus Christ to New Age can you get?

Anonymous said...

Its pretty obvious to me that something isnt right about the whole Constance Cumbey thing. I used to think she was right on until all this. Now the more I see the more I think shes a disinformation person keeping people focused on the wrong stuff and teaching crazy New Age things herself. Its just weird. And to read the posts how her pals shred anybody asking her about her weirdness is just amazing.

Bible Believer said...

I think she is a disinformation person too, meant to play cover-up for the Pope and with her favorite antichrist candidate "Solana" [hope I'm spelling name right", the pals on there, are "helpers" meant to dissuade anyone who comes on to share the truth. They have entire message boards set up in that way, so having some on a disinfo blog, is no surprise to me. It's a game she's got going pretending to be "against" the New Age, while very much for it. She has such a voice on Newswithviews, I do not trust them completely either, but it is interesting to look at her articles and not what is missing...She protests Newt Gingrich, but ignores his immense Catholic ties and praise of the Popes

Even in her latest article there is implicit praise for Rome. I've heard the "do you reject Satan" line in RCC's myself, it is meaningless when Baal worship is done right there via the Mass.

She wrote:

"The Catholic Church in its baptismal vows has its members affirm, “Do you reject Satan? I do.” By contrast, the occult world view is that their “hierarchy” (Lucifer, “Sanat Kumara,” “Solar Logos” and minions) are our “hierarchy.” The intensity of that feeling is typically revealed in Bailey’s THE RAYS AND THE INITIATIONS.:"

Bible Believer said...

Oh one thing I need to tell you something, I think I saw you posting on a certain yuku board, that place is taken over by infiltrators. If anything they will defend Cumbey or try to water things down to you. Especially the one whose name begins with "S". They are Calvary Chapelist defenders.
One thing, that really helped me to figure out is how the deceivers will tell the truth about ONE ASPECT [on there they warn truthfully about the Catholic church] but bring in lies and cover-up via the evangelical world. Some of them are legit, just blind church goers, but others nope. Figuring that out, made the disinformationists far easier to spot. Some even do things like 80% of truth, 20% of lies, so be careful out there. I go on there to get old research from time to time.

Anonymous said...

I haven't posted at a yuku board. I dont even know what that is. lol

I saw shes planning to delete the stuff from her blog that exposes her New Age ideas. I guess she realizes people are starting to wake up to the game.

Bible Believer said...

Ok, I may have gotten you mixed up with someone else. I am not surprised she wants to delete stuff, that is sad. Well people are waking up to the game. Even when I was posting on there, there were other Christians pointing out her discrepancies. She is unteachable obviously via her reactions. All that book knowledge and no spiritual wisdom. She uses overt New Ageism, to divert from the Theosophist Pope.

2Ti 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

Anonymous said...

She deleted some of the posts to her today. Typical damage control disguised as "righteousness".

Bible Believer said...

Yeah some of mine were deleted years ago too. Well you'll probably end up just having to leave like I did, warn who you can. That was what I did afterwards. It really is sad that someone like this has the forum to dish out so many deceptions.

Anonymous said...

Funny. She's now pandering to the Catholics who frequent her site. My guess is they are the only real readers she has outside of maybe a few nutty anti-semitic types.

Bible Believer said...

Yeah, I saw that too, well she is going to chase any true Christian believers off there who see through her deception.

I went and glanced at her top post on her blog, they are gleeful about World Youth Day...[the violence if any is not to be condoned]

You know I wonder if Spain is like Ireland, finally throwing off the shackles of Rome among the youth. I do not want them to go into godlessness of course in retaliation to the harlot--that is a place that needs missionaries, just like Ireland, but that anger and rest can't be coming out of a vaccumn.

Wow she is even using words like "anti-clericalism"

What does that tell you....

Her Catholicism or lets say "Jesuitism" actually has been ratcheted up a bit...

Praising "good" priests...

Yeah it has turned into the Catholics "vs" the New Age website....which basically a waste of time, given the Popes and Vatican teach Theosophy, the foundation of the NEW AGE and are the leaders of Mystery Babylon which the New Age movement is rooted in with teachings adopted from Buddhism and Hinduism..

Anonymous said...

There's no doubt in my mind that Constance Cumbey is an elaborate false flag operative for the New Age Movement. She literally shreds EVERY other opponent of the NAM, doing her best to discredit them so it appears that she is the only real voice of opposition. Satan's methodology for sure! It caters both to her vanity and suits the New Agers and Catholics just fine.

Bible Believer said...

I could go with that...though I would say not just the "new age movement" but Rome definitely too. The Catholic church wants to keep people blinded as to the roots of Mystery Babylon in their camp. What she does sadly seems to work on the spiritually blind.

Anonymous said...

I read Hidden Dangers of the Rainbow some time ago, and it is a great book...and important one.Sadly I did not know about her ignorance/denial of the RCC, until I found this site.I don't think she is a plant,I am guessing she has too many RCC clients and business associates to be outspoken about the atrocities of Rome. Ratzinger has deliberately covered up and excused the crimes of many, many pedophile, rapist priest that have destroyed the lives of many children. The RCC system is evil and antichrist, so wake up Constance.To pander to the RCC is a game played by the world, and you are supposed to be a Christian.

Bible Believer said...

I am glad you were able to learn about her ignorance and denial about the RCC. I still think she is a plant, because of the censorship and extreme controlled opposition on her website, but even if she wasn't and letting her RCC clients and business associates dictate her views, that would be very wrong as well. There are too many holes missing, where she makes too many excuses for the papacy and Rome, including ignoring the sex scandals. If she cannot even discern what Rome is, is she even a Christian? To me she it is doubtful.

Lately she is hanging out and doing radio shows with Lee Penn.

One thing I have personally written Lee Penn, and told him Rome is false and that the Vatican supports the URI and he never responded back.

He is a full blown Catholic.

Both of them are feeding people the Vatican has been "infiltrated" line instead of being Satan's playground from the start.

Marion said...

Interesting...since the New Age is a harlot daughter of Mystery Babylon...started by Pierre Teillard deChardin...a Jesuit!

Anonymous said...

Just posted this on CC´s site. Sure she´ll remove it subertively, so it just disappears without the ´deleted by a blog administrator´comment, or maybe she´ll use the more conventional way seeing as I´ve pointed her controlled opposition tactics out!

Small Farm, I know your blinded by her erhem ... stardom ... but if it is the only the straining of gnats why has she removed the posts? And what about the posts she removes without the comment "... removed by a blog administrator"? She´s controlled opposition, but the Vatican which controls the US Govt and has done since the jesuits forced the Revolution with the front of Illluminati! Oh she´ll poo poo this ... do your own research!!! Very old books exposing jesuits, illuminism & the French & US Revolutions, that´s where to start. You can do it ... go on. God bless!

She´s got you running down the New Age rabbit hole, just like Alex Jones with the Illuminati, or John Phelps who pretends to expose the Vatican and put across his disgusting racist ideology, but who is in fact a Vatican insider just like these others and the lying David Ike, without telling you the Vatican´s behind it all! Haven´t you heard of the red mass and Thomas Moore mass in the US attended by Bush, Clinton, Obama and many others? The TM mass is the mass for Politicians and Lawyers alike. STRANGE HOW SOME OF CUMBEY´S ARTICLES HAVE THOMAS MOORE LAW CENTER OR SUCH LIKE WRITTEN ON THEM ...NO? WAKE UP!!!!

Do your own research ... you´re fast asleep ... wake up!!!!

Anonymous said...

I have also just posted this comment at her site in case she removes the previous one that I have just posted here 10 or so mins ago too.

I see it now suits her purpose to leave the comment there. I wonder for how long? She may leave this too! WHY TRUST ME? I AGREE! WHY TRUST CONTANCE BLINDLY TOO? DON´T YOU KNOW THAT IF THE BLIND LEADS THE BLIND, BOTH SHALL FALL INTO A DITCH?


Bible Believer said...

Thanks for trying to warn people at Constance Cumbey's website, she has many"helper" commenters over there, if you get my drift.

I saw this response today...

"Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

Revelation was disputed in early times, because it was misused by the Montanist sect so the tendency was to stay away from it. The early undivided church (before the RC schism in AD 1054) accepted it, but did not use it to establish doctrine or read in liturgy to now.

The only solid argument against it would seem to be the difference between it and John's Epistles regarding grammar, etc., but John wrote this alone, without a proof reader, while his Epistles were written under conditions he could have had help formatting so to speak, and he was not educated much.
10:19 AM
Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

anon, I don't think Constance expects you to trust her blindly, I think I recall her posting something about not being perfect herself.

Of course when I say get out there and dig don't rely on a single link or two but research it I get all kinds of attacks. Though perhaps not from you.

Solana may be a waste of time, but this happens when you have a eurocentric or euro-americacentric mindset. Then, that might not be entirely wrong either, even if partly wrong.

Reason to oppose the Vatican DOES NOT INCLUDE the doctrine of transformation of bread and wine into The Body and Blood of Christ, which is to be found in Justin Martyr's writing in the second century, and it takes presuppositions and twisting not to see it in Scripture.

Does not Paul warn in one of the Corinthian letters that those who eat and drink it without perceiving the Body (which he just spec. is Body of Christ a few sentences before) eat and drink judgement to themselves? This means something REAL and objective is present that is not just bread and wine.

I think Calvin argued that while the bread and wine remained bread and wine, there was a literal communion with the Body and Blood of Christ through faith of the believer when taking the Eucharist.
10:24 AM"

WOW that one basically is defending CORE CATHOLIC teachings, feeding more confusion.

Yeah they KNOW what they are doing over there you know.

By the way, I consider the EUCHARIST the CENTER OF THE HARLOT, as posted here..

Bible Believer said...

The New Age Rabbit hole is used other places too. Ever notice on NewswithViews who by the way has Cumbey as a columnist they never talk about Rome on there, or very brief mentions? Same with Texe Marrs who plays blame the Jews games. That is one farce some of the discernment websites run, downplay Rome's role in deception and advance the ecumenical movement. I even see it on Makow's website, where he seems to even go as far as to praise Islam because they worship "god" and does celebrate Rome but then mixes up the Theosophist/New Agers and Jews to focus on. She removes a lot of posts, but then some of my old ones were left up.

Notice how her false commmenter Justina I quoted above praises Rome's early ECFs, including naming herself after one probably and advances false Catholic theology.

You are right they are fast asleep. I agree about Phelps too and the rest of them by the way.

Bible Believer said...

"but this happens when you have a eurocentric or euro-americacentric mindset."

Oh I forgot to comment on this little snippet, when people start that garbage shut them down...

That is the so called "eastern thought" globalist nonsense they love to advance. Her blog and it's commenters are actually full of the New Age.

The New Age movement is basic Buddhism and Hinduism [other arms of Mystery Babylon] Teilhard did have a huge role in it all. The Theosphists loved that guy, I knew it.

I remember Cumbey could not bear for me to write the connections between Theosophy and the Pope's teachings, on one of my earliest essays..

Her love of Rome basically means SHE IS A NEW AGER,

you know, in EVERY CAPACITY...

Anonymous said...

Bible believer, thanks for your kind words of support. I completely agree with you too. It is so refreshing to hear truth on this issue being expressed. Yes Cumbey does have many followers there. I wouldn´t be surpirsed if the site is overseen by some swarm of locust jesuits somewhere. Anyhow, the site is clearly making the noises of Rome´s New Age Mystery Babylon mantras.

I am surprised they haven´t yet found a way to shut your site down. I have pics of Clinton and Bush receiving the RC Eucharist.

I have nothing against ordinary Roman Catholics, the Holy Bible states imperatively to those of a Christian persuasion trapped in her to come out of her or they are at risk of suffering her plagues!

The Jesuits and SMOM, disguised as Jews or as Protestant ministers or as illuminati, and their Whore of Babylon institutions ( The false church at Rome calls herself Mother btw) are the ones riding this beast system that is devourung the whole World now. As long as there are people steadfastly exposing their wickednesses as you do there is more chance many will be saved from her clutches. Keep up the good work friend and may God continue to bless you and your work greatly in Jesus Christ´s Holy Name.

I am deeply grateful for your site and all your hard work and risk.

Thank you,

A friend.

Anonymous said...

This is my last comment at Cumbey´s, I´ll not be surprized if it´s removed:

Anon at 7:09 PM,

how do you know that the Galatiansfour blogspot person is a he?

Christine, what filth spews forth from you. You need deliverance.

It is not about certain folk being perfect, it´s about them deliberately leasding others astray. Pretending they´re something they´re not.

When does CC ever expose that Jesuit of old, New Ager Chardin? Unless pretending he was excommunicated, which if you read his life story you´ll find out he most certainly was not!

Where was the major coverage and exposure by her of the all religions are relative nonsense held at Assisi last year? And what about her exposure of JPII and his Assisi false religion conference in the 80´s, with shamans, witches and all sorts?

She´s controlled opposition. Wake up!!!!

Bible Believer said...

The commenters on her board, the majority by my reckoning are fakes and diverters, could even be the same person posting over and over under different identities. Lots of comments MEANT TO CONFUSE.

When someone always uses the word "Christ" and never the phrase Jesus Christ, watch out too.

So much New Age false 'cosmic christ" theology it's not funny.

I noticed they took down the comment you posted that had my blog address. Hey too many questions that can't be answered.

"Jonny" wrote this:

"he truth is, that there is no one denomination that contains Christ. Rather, Christ is all in all and we are IN HIM"

First lie, "all in all"....more of that pantheistic stuff.

somewhere. Anyhow, the site is clearly making the noises of Rome´s New Age Mystery Babylon mantras.

Hey I spent some time with Catholics in the message board world and probably a few Jesuits, they all write like those purposefully trying to confuse.

This one made me laugh...

"I want to tell the Galatiansfour blogspot person to just shut up. He goes on and on about thing he hasn't read in any of the Cumbey material. He might fool others who haven't read the material either and needs to read the quote starting "You can fool some of the people...""

I'm actually a woman, see recent blog article "men and women". I've read Cumbey's books and articles even on newswithviews for YEARS. The endless holes of what NOT was said, was always interesting. Cover up for Rome. And in this blog article is the direct exposure of her praise for Catholicism.

Bible Believer said...

Someone who writes this definitely does not recognize the harlot, notice the endless defenses of the Catholic church on there.

"As far as the Catholic Church, it has a lot of strengths and a lot of weak lengths. It is a huge organization with a long history compared to some of the teenier Protestant groups, so of course there will be more weak links. If God wanted to wipe out the Catholic Church, he would have done. He has his own reasons for allowing its continuation. Over thousands of years it has done a huge amount of good."

Sounds almost like Catholic apologists who used to claim to me validity could be proven for the Catholic church for it's longevity. I used to tell them Hinduism is 5,000 years old, so what?
All false religions do charity work, but the harm Rome has done to this world is beyond measure.

The strange continued defense of transubstantiation, satanic or phony Catholic Eucharist side show "miracles" new age inspired quantum theories, and ecfs speaks for itself. The Physicist they brought on was to help the mumbo jumbo nonsense meant to defend the Catholic idol wafer. After all the Jesuits have used [well in this case what they call "science"] to help forward lies. Even when a UU Theosophist I heard all that mumbo jumbo, nothing new there. What is that weird stuff about Herescope and speakers. I would think Herescope would see through those wafer idolaters.

Ive seen the pictures of Clinton and Bush, with the Eucharist and well Red Mass pics and more. Even if one looks at the pictures of Bush, taking his endless sojourns to the Vatican they are revealing and even Obama has been there. I believe most Catholics just do not know any better, I was in there so I would know. They are deceived and need the truth. I agree about God calling out "HIS" PEOPLE, that of course includes those in false daughter harlot churches too. Once someone is born again, the call to leave Rome is intense, I left within DAYS, before then I had stopped taking communion for some months. Yes God warns of the plagues to come.

Hey they have many "pretenders" out there, if you have read the Calvary Chapel articles on this blog, you'll see how deep that all goes. Yes the RCC does call itself mother of all the churches, you are right about that.

Thanks for your encouraging comments, God bless you too.

I would reccommend you stay away from Cumbey's website though at this point, she will edit and remove all your comments they do not like. They will surround you with just more confusion and round about arguments. Notice one even cusses right out. I can understand people needing to repent of that and sinning but to leave the 'f' word right up on what is supposed to be a Christian website speaks for itself.

LOL Has Cumbey even addressed Merton or Chardin? With Chardin, he was high up in Vatican circles. I wonder how she would explain this Pope PRAISING Chardin...

I googled to see if she has ever touched Assisi.

It's strange how she "warns" about somethings but they are never enough to wake her up...

Just more of the confusion.

Of course some of the claims will be the Vatican is infiltrated, blah blah, I read and heard it all.

Well you tried to warn the people there. All you can do.

Anonymous said...

This was my final post there which I´d be grateful if you can show here so there is no misunderstanding as to why I have added to the exposure of CC and her, given her knowlege of NAM, seemedly blatant excusing of Rome and its NAM connexions. I wrote:

Oh sure, there was the pretext (damage limitation as the conditioning of the people to NAM ideas shouldn´t be over hasty) of pretending some of the Roman Curia were displeased with some of his ideas (though he was never excommunicated or seriously reprimanded, because he "was only following orders", no doubt!

Indeed, "some of Teilhard's views became influential in the reforms of the Second Vatican Council. More recently, Pope John Paul II indicated a positive attitude towards some of Teilhard's ideas. In 2009, Pope Benedict XVI praised Teilhard's idea of the universe as a "living host".[1]"

Yes, that same Benny XVI that CC stated, "Cardinal Ratzinger is Pope Benedict XVI -- and, personally, I couldn't be happier!"

Thank you Bible believer for your patience and for reproducing this here.

A friend.

Anonymous said...

I am convinced CC´s site is Jesuit run. I have posted this, as it is sadly the only logical conclusion
I´m left with regards CC´s silence on RCism being actively behind the New Age Movement with Pierre T. de Chardin, what happened at Assisi etc.

I´ve done what I could to awaken people there, despite others attempting to obfuscate my points.

My last comment there in warning, which I won´t be surprised if it disappears, was:

´I put it to you that CC´s exposure of the NAM may be the ´reaction´ or ├íntithesis´ part in the Hegelian dialectic employed by Rome and her Jesuit Locusts.

There´s Pierre T. de Chardin and his NAM promotion (Benny XVI loves his ideas): Problem or Thesis

Then there´s CC with her ´warnings´: Antithesis or Reaction.

Then comes Ecumenicism under the control of the Romish ´church´:

Synthesis or Solution!

Many have written against theosophy from a Christian standpoint long before CC came on the scene. Do your own research!

I´d much rather trust Christian writers, whose works are contemporaneous with hers, such as Dave Hunt and Randall Baer, than CC, due to her refusal to deal properly with the NAM of the RC. Why is that? I ask rhetorically.

Time to wake up folks!´
Thank you.

Anonymous said...

I just hope the word is spreading that shes not to be trusted. Her blog has far too many people fooled. Her followers are mostly Catholics and antisemitic "protestant" types. Shes dangerous.

Bible Believer said...

I pray more figure it out. The blog is scary and seems to attract many what I call "influencer" types. I did notice she is very popular among Catholics.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

"the Catholic church points to a false "jesus' in it's Eucharist"
John chapter 6
"51I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live forever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.

52The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying, How can this man give us his flesh to eat?

53Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except you eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, you have no life in you.

54Whosoever eats my flesh, and drinks my blood, has eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.

55For my flesh is food indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.

56He that eats my flesh, and drinks my blood, dwells in me, and I in him.

57As the living Father has sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eats me, even he shall live by me.

58This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eats of this bread shall live forever.

59These things said he in the synagogue, as he taught in Capernaum.

Many Disciples Turn from Jesus

60Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is a hard saying; who can hear it?

61When Jesus knew in himself that his disciples murmured at it, he said unto them, Does this offend you?

62What if you shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?

63It is the spirit that gives life; the flesh profits nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

64But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who would betray him.

65And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.

66From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him."

notice He doesn't deny literal meaning.

Paul warns against eating the Eucharist without seeing it as the real Body and Blood of Christ
I Corinthans chapter 11
"that have not? What shall I say to you? shall I praise you in this? I praise you not.

23For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread: 24And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me. 25After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me. 26For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come.

27Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord. 28But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup. 29For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body. 30For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep. 31For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged. 32But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world."

The testimony of Ignatius, whose life verlapped that of John and was taught by him and being of Antioch by tose taughtbyPeter, and the testimony of Justin Martyr and of Irenaeus shows that in Europe and in Asa, the belief of the early church was of the literal real presence of Christ's Body and Blood in the Eucharist.

Roman Catholicism has issues, but this isn't one of them.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

a Jesuit coadjutor would have to be a member of the Jesuit order and therefore would have to be male. do your research better.

Bible Believer said...

Hi Constance!

Do your research better, the Catholic church is not some great thing you think it is.

I've read your posts Christine, wonder how you have the time for so many everyday. Confusing people is an art form.

I see the controlled opposition blathering over there, yes that's all it is. I let you post this time, with your two posts but there won't be a next.

Bible Believer said...

Oh and I have heard the excuses for the wafer worship, over and over. It's the same argument everytime

Any one who can't see the fact that when people kneel to a piece of bread that it is total idolatry is spiritually blind. By the way all "hidden sun worship" there is a reason the wafers are round and held in the monstrance by a "luna".

You are worshipping that what gets thrown into the draught.

Matthew 15:17 Do not ye yet understand, that whatsoever entereth in at the mouth goeth into the belly, and is cast out into the draught?