Thursday, September 9, 2010

About the Church That Wants to Burn the Koran


There is a pastor in Florida who wants to do a public burning of the Koran, it has caused worldwide controversy with even the Vatican weighing in, politicians like Hillary Clinton and Hollywood celebrities.

Remember the new world order wants it's war of civilizations. There is nothing wrong about telling someone the truth about a false religion, I was told the truth about Catholicism, but with some of these people you ask where is their fruit of the Holy Spirit, there is none. How do they think antagonizing people, and offending them on purpose, is going to lead anyone to Jesus Christ? If anything their example, will only turn more away from the gospel and lead to more violence.

Here too I can see all of this being used, due to the resulting and expected outrage to be used to suppress freedom of religion in America. There is a reason this is hitting the world wide news since this guy is the "pastor" of a very small and unknown church. Think about that, why would this unknown be plastered across international news? It all is being used for some agenda. Don't forget the Hegelian Dialectic here. This man's outrageous and wicked actions, could lead to a suppression of freedom of speech, and those who will say that speaking negatively of any religion should be outlawed in opposition-- [Thesis, antithesis, synthesis].

I found an picture on line of this pastor [Terry Jones] in his church. I noticed the red banner with the "knights of Templar crown" behind him. It is often used as a Freemason symbol too. Now we do not know how this banner was chosen or if the person choosing it knew the meaning of these symbols, but I found it interesting nonetheless.


I decided to dig further, wanting to know what kind of church is this? It seems this is a new apostolic reformation church, with those false teachings. New Apostolic reformation is a growing false heresy out there, where the pastors and leaders are teaching that they are the "new apostles" and holding the same authority too. This definitely brings this Bible verse in mind.

Rev 2:2 I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:


From the Dove Outreach Center website: [that is an interesting name too] it says:

Significant aspects of our church are: • Apostolic leadership with emphasis on the apostolic anointing, the five- fold ministry role of training and equipping the saints for the works of the ministry and faithful committed members doing the work of the ministry.
Apostolic worship which is a conscious, deliberate effort during worship to change the spiritual world, that then works its way out into the natural world and becomes visible as victory over the enemy.
DWOC Academy a place of training the next generation to be strong and stable five-fold ministers under the apostolic anointing. We believe that God is calling a new generation in this end time – a generation of believers that are yielded to His Word and His will. Our land needs strong churches that understand and fulfill God’s vision of restoration and reformation. Churches which will be planted by the DWOC Academy graduates. Individuals who are able to handle the revival which the apostolic anointing will usher in. An anointing which will bring about Godly changes to our society through the work of these churches.

The New Apostolic Reformation movement has its ties to Dominionism as well. These false actions are coming out of false theology, with political agendas included. One thing that really shows this church for what it is, is from reading the cult-like rules of the DWOC Academy mentioned above.

Terry Jones is a false preacher who needs to realize what the Christian gospel is really about and get back to the goal of winning people to Jesus Christ instead of human carnal wickedness and evil: [and this chapter needs to be read by everyone who has been fooled by the "war of civilizations" stuff]
Romans 12:17 Recompense to no man evil for evil. Provide things honest in the sight of all men. 18If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men. 19Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
20Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head.21Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.


8 comments:

Anonymous said...

Everything about this man is suspicious. IMO he is either brainwashed by NAR and other heresy, or he is a plant, a tool to take the focus off the real culprits behind 9/11 when many Americans and people of other nations will use its anniversary to again address the truth of it.

Bible Believer said...

I totally agree. I think he is either brainwashed or a total and complete shill, kind of like those Westboro folks who are tools of the new world order for certain agendas, like limiting free speech and causing other havoc. [also meant to discredit Christians [or fundamentalist Christians as a whole].

As I wrote there is a reason that some guy with a church of around 50 members {read that elsewhere] is getting that much media attention.

Looks like he has cancelled his Koran burning for now....

believer in Messiah said...

How convenient, considering I am the one who showed you about "The New Apostolic Reformation, What Is It and Where Is It Going?".http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/nardvd.html. LOL and one of the one's who's opinion is highly valued in that exposition is one you continually trash, Jacob Prasch. You obviously have NEVER seen the DVD series warning about all of this, have you? LOL LOL LOL

Bible Believer said...

I knew about NAR before this person above showed me, after all I had been writing posts on Dominionism.

Jacob Prasch does warn of some false teachers, including NAR. I have admitted that he warns about some false teachers. It seems even Hagee and his false teachings have come under some comment too, on the Moriel board as well:

http://moriel.org/MorielArchive/index.php/discernment/israel/john-hagees-in-defense-of-israel

With Prasch, even if there are some things to agree with, there are others things I do not agree with him on as I have shared on this blog and some of those things are pretty foundational--Christian Zionism, my "Jewish fables" entry. Disagreeing with beliefs is not "trashing". I'd rather no one be deceived and all be followers of the truth, and considering what I came out of {UU and Catholic church} I pray for everyone. The Christian Zionist stuff is very subtle stuff, preying on the love that Christians hold for Jews but misleading looking at a kingdom of THIS WORLD--secular Israel-- and leading people to support hideous political agendas of the wicked powers of this world.

There are total connections to the NAR movement with Christian Zionism, even with an NAR "apostle" [Steph Strang] serving as a CUFI regional director. Perhaps "believerinmessiah" would like to research some of those things for herself.

Anonymous said...

Prasch is a deceiving and deceived futurist whose false interpretation is actually helping the Antichrist.

Anonymous said...

Oh, sorry, that last was by Anon. #2.

Anonymous said...

The New Apostolic Church is most deffinately not of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, I have been in the church for a few years through Marriage and believing my poor Partner knew what he was talking about. The very frightening fact is that they are an immensely crafty organisation, most deffinately servants of the enemy as you only really come to know what they are all about if you are one that studies the Bible (which they frown upon) and attends their services. The last straw for me was when one of the Priests stated that as Jesus Christ holds the keys to hell, so does the Chief Apostle, that is absolute Hierasy. I must also state that most of the Priests and Deacons don't even now what is written in the Bible and very few will actually come back to you with answers to questions you had, as they have been taught to only preach what the Chief Apostle dictates to them, deffinately not people that can think for themselves. There are many innocent and simple minded people in the church, I really pray that they will very soon be recognised as an occult just as the Mormans and Jehovah Witnesses have been, people really need to know the truth about them and soon!!!!!

Bible Believer said...

Thanks Anon, yes I agree those NAR leaders are wicked and those churches are not truly of Jesus Christ, I posted on a female NAR "apostle" here, you probably would find this article interesting.

http://galatiansfour.blogspot.com/2010/11/new-apostolic-reformation-seeking-power.html

Occult, witchcraft worse then you could even imagine, yes they sure are crafty. When they claim they are new "apostles" they are just following the RCC, because they teach the same thing essentially about their clergy.

It is hard to watch more simple minded, non biblically educated folks follow them.